The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton ShowThe Show kicks off with a discussion on recent political victories in Florida, highlighting wins in the first and sixth congressional districts. The hosts delve into the mixed results from Wisconsin, noting the approval of a voter ID ballot initiative but the loss of a State Supreme Court seat. They analyze the implications of these elections, including potential shifts in congressional seats and the broader political landscape.
A discussion on the internal conflicts within the Democratic Party, including former President Obama's alleged efforts to undermine Kamala Harris's 2024 presidential bid. The hosts speculate on the future leadership of the party and the potential rise of figures like Gavin Newsom and Wes Moore.
A major focus of this hour is the release of the report on the Covenant School shooting in Nashville. The hosts delve into the motivations of the transgender shooter, emphasizing the targeted attack on a Christian school and the chilling details from the report. They discuss the broader implications of the shooter's left-wing ideology and the need for armed security in schools.
The hosts also address the viral controversy surrounding a father in Augusta, Georgia, who was arrested for leaving his children at a McDonald's playground during a job interview. They debate the appropriateness of the arrest and the challenges faced by parents in similar situations.
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Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. And there's a lot going on. Victory in Florida. I just want to take a moment here with my fellow Floridians listening. And Clay is like a half Floridian. I know that Tennessee doesn't want to give up one of their favorite sons, but Clay does have property on the Gulf of America and spends a fair amount of time in Florida. Big wins in the state of Florida, the first and six congressional districts. We thought that was going to happen, you know, Randy Fine came through, Jimmy Petrona's came through. All good there. Not as awesome up in Wisconsin. Maybe a bit of a Wisconsin wake up call, but something of a mixed bag. We did not win the open Supreme Court State Supreme Court seat there, but there was a ballot initiative on ID voter ID and that did get approved, So you know, it's mixed. It wasn't what we wanted. Certainly, now we're gonna probably drop two congressional seats from the Republican column in Wisconsin. But we'll get more into that. Trump sharing out on truth social It's Liberation Day in America. He's really going all in on this. I mean, this is is this gonna be Trump's first new federal holiday that he tries to declare if this goes as well as he's hoping, Liberation Day is something that I had not expected to get as much attention from him. We've also got cuts at HHS NI, h c DC, which we should certainly discuss, and then some other stories that are gonna get into the mix here. But Clay, I would I would start with what is your feeling about the elections that occurred yesterday? I mean, they're they're doing here here, here's Jake Tapper. I said this would happened. They're saying, Okay, well he's winning big, but it's not as big a win. This is over at CNN play cut two.
True is a strong candidate, and he is he's gonna win. We're projecting a win for him. But Dana, it's not a thirty five point win that it should be in ruby red handhandle Florida. You're exactly right, and it is the whole question of the margins. Jake, that is what Democrats have been looking at all night.
Cley. I mean, this is look, they're looking for silver linings for their audience there. Now they're trying to which Wisconsin has clearly got. Oh men over at MSNBC. Wisconsin is the story of the day, no question. But everyone knew that Patron's was going to win. He won by a whole bunch. Randy Fine won by a solid margin. I think Republicans showed up. It's an off election cycle. It's tough to get people that excited in a super red district to come out in huge numbers.
Look, Democrats outperform Republicans in special elections across the board, and this is why I think Republicans need to look at the data. I think, frankly, this is why they pull stefanic I think that's why they pulled her you in ambassadorship because they knew that in her district in New York, based on the numbers in Florida, that people were just not going to show up on the same level. And it doesn't really surprise me. I think what it means is the twenty five percent of the Democrat Party diehards are going to vote no matter what, and that happens basically nationwide, and there are a lot more casual I would say busy Republican voters that show up for the big events but don't show up for the primary season.
And I think that that is well understood at this point.
To me, winning by fifteen points in the Florida six when you're outspent five six to one, winning in Florida one by fifteen or sixteen points even though you're outspent there to me is a pretty solid sign. But I think we need to avoid special elections. Sometimes you can't help it, but buck the kick and the teeth. In twenty twenty, the thing, the reason I think we got to nine percent inflation was not because Biden got elected president. It's because Georgia, in double special elections gave Joe Biden the Senate. But Georgian we lost three should win Republican Senate seats in Georgia, three in one state over the course of a couple of election cycles. So yeah, that was a disaster and one that caught and cost the country. Truly cost the country trillions of dollars. I don't think we would have gotten above four or five percent inflation. I really mean this if Georgia had had one of those two races go to the Republican Party because there was enough opposition to Biden's agenda that there would have had to be some moderation.
And let me just say this too, if Joe.
Manchin and Kirsten Cinema, but Joe Manchin in particular hadn't put the stop gap on it, remember by they didn't wanted to spend five trillion dollars. I'm not saying Mansion was perfect. I think he got it wrong with the Build Back Better Bill. I think the Inflation Adjustment, a reduction act that actually increased inflation, was a bad decision. But Biden would have blown inflation into the fifteen or sixteen percent category if he had been allowed to spend like he wanted to spend. But he never would have been allowed to do that if we had won the special elections in Georgia. Yeah, so it's overall overall, I think it was a good day yesterday for Republicans.
Not a perfect day. And I do have to remind everybody the numbers for the Democrats continue to go down, and the Democrats klan I were talking about this. We actually just carry was with us we did a gym workout South Beach, you know, working on our pecks, this our delta.
This is the I've never seen so many people in a gym. This was not us wearing less clothes to work out. I've never been in a gym. It was like we were at a bait. It was like a swim party. The girls were basically just working out in their bikinis.
I've never seen its like, it's like a lingerie show in the gym every day. Yes, it is. This is I've never I grew up in New York City. I went to the gym there. I've never seen anything like it in my life. And here it's quite a show. I was not in my lingerie. In case anybody wonders, Yeah, I mean even the guys aren't wearing very much. A lot of very skimpy tank tops on. The guys showing your brother.
Your brother walked by and I was like, he's a tag top guy, top work out.
I've got a full T shirt on. I felt like I was like I was in a Burca. But you know we were. We were walking here, walking back and and just talking about what we're going to get into on the show and how I'm a little surprised. Are you a little surprised too, I'm a little surprised that the the tacking toward the center. It's not just that they're they're slow to do it, or I think they're unwilling to do it. I think the Democrats are and I don't mean on everything. Obviously. Look, Kamala got a lot of votes, she was a horrible candidate. We didn't win by that much. In some way, Wisconsin might be a good wake up call for everybody that we're talking about. Fine Margins. Yes, Trump won the ran the table and won the election, and it was awesome and fantastic, but he's not gonna well, we don't think he's gonna be the guy running the next time around. And the parties are neck and neck still with as crazy as Democrats are. So are you surprised about the lack of I mean moderation, lack of sanity. Yes, Because right after the election we said you have two options when you get your ass kicked. One is you can say, oh, you know, and I think it works for sports too. You can say, hey, we had an awful game plan. We got to go back and figure out a way to win what Democrats have gone with is not we had an awful game plan. They've gone with our message wasn't heard well enough by the American voter, and I think that's completely wrong. They spent a billion and a half dollars on Kamala Harris in roughly ninety days, and everybody knew Kamala Harris's message.
It was just an awful mess. Can I offer some additional context on this.
Given the astonishing lie that the Democrats were all in on that Joe Biden was fine, that there weren't even more defections. Yeah, to the Republican Party. I think goes to the strength of the hive mind and the collectivists. Keep in mind, everybody, if you were a Democrat who voted for Biden in twenty twenty and you were a reasonable rational person this time around, not only should he be appalled at his performance, they should have been appalled at the fact that it was hidden by the And all the books are coming out now on which we told you they were.
Of course, we told you the truth would be told as soon as the election was over. And now everybody, including Jake Tapper, who claimed that, has got a book about how decrepit Biden was.
But yeah, look, I think what you have to.
Take in is there is a committed cadre of twenty five percent of Americans who truly believe that Trump is Hitler, and they are going to show up for every special election with the idea being that they believe they have to save the country.
This is like the Democrat Bolsheviks. Yes, I mean, these are people. Very interesting little historical note. Back in the early days of the Soviet of what was the Russian and Soviet Revolution, there were the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks. The Bolsheviks their name is supposed to be majoritarian. They never had popular support, even among the collectivists. They called themselves that to fool people. The hard left in this country does not have popular support, but they have been able to infiltrate and control institutions to include the DNC and the Democrat Party in recent election cycle, so their ideas don't actually have to be popular. Their ideas weren't popular during COVID when they were freaking everybody out and shutting everything down, but they did it anyway in a lot of places that didn't want it to happen.
There's good I thought your analogy yesterday is going to all so I said, by twenty twenty seven, they're going to be talking about how you of a candidate Trump is and that he doesn't have coattails, and it's not Trump sorry, he's not the Republican Party's great message. It's just Trump is a uniquely talented candidate. Obama was the same way in that there, I would argue Trump has better coattails than Obama does. But they're going to try to argue, hey, look, Trump, we're gonna we're gonna crush you guys in twenty twenty six. I don't think they can take back the Senate. In fact, I think Republicans just looking at the map actually have a really good chance to add one or two seats.
I think that's very reasonable.
But if they take back the House, they're gonna argue after twenty twenty six, hey we're winning twenty twenty eight. Trump is a uniquely talented candidate. They're gonna go from he's hitler to actually, you know what, he's an incredible candidate, and they're gonna argue that JD. Vance or whomever the candidate is does not have the same cachet and appeal and won't turn out those non traditional voters. And it is true in twenty twenty and twenty twenty four there were a lot of people who showed up at the polls that I think Democrats thought were not going to show up at the polls.
Well, I do believe with Trump MAGA it is a movement and because his VP does represent the next generation JD vance of leadership and is not Remember, Democrats did something very weird. They had Hillary beaten by Obama Obama for eight years, and then they tried to kind of trot out Hillary as the you know, the plan B the second option here. Oh, but she should be the president now. There was I know, she was Obama's secretary of State, which didn't go so well, go check out what happened in Megazi, among other things. But there was no oh, she's being you know, prepared, She's the success There was no sense that she was Obama's successor within obamasm if you will. It wasn't like he was. She was, Oh, I'm a part of the Obama movement. She's like, I'm a famous politician because my husband was a famous politician, and now it's my turn. And it didn't play very well. I think with JD and also with a number of people who are just going to be powerful going forward in the Republican Party who are of the younger generation. The narrative arc is they were there with Trump and they honed their skills. You know, his tutelage is what will allow them to take it going forward. So I think there's a little bit of a better shot. There no doubt. We just got to Jim Buck has gotten back in shape. One way he's gotten back in shape is by using chalk. Our buddy Seating down in Texas built a great American company. All Natural gives you energy to be able to put a lot of vitality into your workout. In fact, they have the Male Vitality Stack formulated to give you more energy and it can increase your testosterone levels by as much as twenty percent in just three months time. I was impressed by Clay's cold plunge abilities. Today, I'm just going to tell you Clay hops into that cold plunge like a champ. His name could be spent Holoff Center.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Let's enjoy the slow motion collapse and infighting of the Democrat Party for a second, shall we This is this is like the dessert section of this hour. This is where we just get to have a little bit of fun. I told you already. Wisconsin didn't win that Supreme Court state Supreme Court seat. A little disappointing, but we knew it was gonna be very tough off cycle. Democrats get their crazies out in the off cycle. We got to work more on this. Okay, we did win those Republican congressional seats in Florida, though, so that was the most well maybe we'll say we'll say it's even okay, it's like they get two congressional seats in Wisconsin. We probably lost, but we kept too and the Florida maybe Wisconsin was a little more important. Whatever. Let's talk about Democrats and how they hate each other. Well, first off, they're upset the newest the newest rating for Democrats in congress specifically, here's CNN's version. Here's CNN's bootleg Ryan Kurdusky Harry Enton, who is telling everybody, listen to what the congressional rating is for Democrats. Now play three.
Holy Toledo Voters' views of the Democrats in Congress. Among all voters, disapproved sixty eight percent. And look at the approved number, just twenty one percent, even lower than the Democratic Party at large. This is the lowest on record for Democrats, according Toquinnipiac University Polling. You think these numbers are bad, let's go to this side of the screen. We'll look how Democratic voters feel. Get this, the plurality of Democratic voters disapprove of Democrats in Congress at forty nine percent and just forty percent approve.
Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Oh my goodness, gracious, you just can't get worse than these numbers.
Democrats are about as popular as stubbing your toe. So the nail comes off. It's pretty rough, right now. Yeah.
Look, and they're going to try to take momentum from the special elections. As we started off this show talking about the fact that Trump won those districts, the first and the sixth by thirty five ish points in the twenty twenty election. But what you really have to dive into is turnout, and turnout was and is on these special elections a fraction of how many people show up for presidential elections and how many people show up for midterms to be frank, and the real challenge here is Democrats can be wildly unpopular, and that's what happens when you take a lot of positions that are in fact wildly unpopular. But the problem for the House is there's only around twenty five seats that are actually swingable at this point. Both parties have done such a job jerrymandering the states that they control that there aren't very many toss up seats. So I think the likelihood of either party being able to win more than four or five in any direction is actually highly highly unlikely. And again I said, I think Democrats are going to lose Senate seats.
I think, wasn't it Maureen Dowd just put out a column of the day Democrat Party is in a coma. I think that was the title, which is feels pretty apt that we've been saying something very similar here because it is and they know it, and they're trying to figure out what to do because, like any party that is overtaken by radicals, moderation isn't really possible for them right now, because moderation would mean expelling the twenty percent ideologically who have been calling the shots and making demands. This is like the trans stuff. This is like the open borders. We are one world. Let all the illegals in stuff. I mean, really unpopular nationally policies. Twenty percent of Democrats aren't just for it, they are all in on it and would feel betrayed unless you continue to push for that. So that's one thing I think is really interesting. There's also the infighting that's going on with who's going to be in charge of the Democrat Party going forward. I just saw this, Clay. I thought this was really interesting. NBC political reporter Jonathan Allen here claiming that Obama worked behind the scenes to derail Kamala in twenty twenty four. Listen to this.
President Obama absolutely did not think that Joe Biden should continue, according to our sources close to President Obama, and he also didn't want Kamala Harris to be the replacement for Biden. He didn't think that she was the best choice for Democrats, and he worked really behind the scenes for a long time to try to have a mini primary or an open convention or many primary leading to an open convention. Did not have faith in her ability to win the election. So and as it turned out she didn't win, but he was really working against her.
Two things, Clay, One, do you buy this too? Do you think Obama's meddling might have actually helped Trump substantially because of the behind the scenes shenanigans to undermine Kamala when she was supposed to ascend.
So I have thought for a long time that basically Barack Obama ghost wrote George Clooney's op ed in the New York Times. And I think the New York Times editorial board knows it too, because just think about this, Why would they really feature George Clooney and his political opinion as some incredibly important statement. George Clooney has never been a politician. He's never been, to my knowledge, a particularly perceptive figure in Democrat politics.
Trump and I agree, he's not even a very good act. You and Trump and I aligned on this one big time. You and Trump don't even think he's a movie star in any way. I think all I think that George Klooney's op ed was one hundred percent ghost written by Barack Obama. But but here's the thing Obama is not. This actually lines up for me in so many ways. Obama is not a tactician of politics beyond pushing himself and you know, thinking that he's God. Basically he is not a political strategist of any people whatsoever, based on what the Democrat part I think descended into under his tenure for eight years, remember led to Trump. He made fun of Trump at that day and Trump then became president. Like you think about the Obama story, arc he was good at getting himself elected, he was not good at leading a party. Remember people say, oh, Obamacare, there were a few things that have Obama came in after a recession that was actually decades in the making. It's a whole other story. We would have time to get into it now. But didn't get anything done on immigration, didn't get anything done on climate change, which were the two other primary issues that he wanted to work on. But also what was his plan bringing this into this conversation about Kamala derailing Kamala?
Who was the better option he wanted to That's the thing on the George clooneyop ed he wanted a many primary But.
But you think about who would have been in that. It would have been Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsome, Like, think.
Of me, do you know who was mentioned that you've said could rise up as the twenty twenty eight candidate, Wes Moore. Wes Moore, Yeah, I keep George. George Clooney specifically mentioned him there.
I think so.
I think you're right about the crazy town perspectives that so many Democrats have adopted if they have a history. And remember, in particular, Kamala got raked over the coals, as she should have for saying I support transgender surgeries for legal immigrants. That's why I think that the Democrats are going to have to find someone like Trump who is a non traditional candidate that doesn't have crazy town opinions that are public remember, that can recalibrate and redefine the entire party. The first time that I took note of Trump as a candidate was when he said the Iraq War was a disaster.
Basically I'm paraphrasing him.
Nobody else at that point in time was willing to criticize the decision to go to the Iraq War because so many Republican politicians supported it. Trump wasn't a Republican politician at the time.
It wasn't even just Republicans, it was Democrats too, which was including Hillary Clinton. I was going to say, big part of why Hillary was able to oh sorry, Obama was able to outflank Hillary was Obama was like, look, you voted for that disaster, that's right, and Hillary was you know Hillary, So she wasn't exactly great at ingratiating herself. The party has to be blown up, I think in the Democrats. Well, this is on the Breakfast Club, very very a popular show on in the mornings on iHeart Charlemagne spoke about how he thinks. And this is a guy with a big audience. A lot of Democrats listen to him. The Democrat you know, top candidates and Kamala and everybody you know. They go on this show, and mister the God was saying that everybody needs to be primaried and thrown out of office in the Democrat leadership.
Now play four who was supposed to be the leaders? Well, in Congress you've got two people. The first one is this guy House Minority leader, Hakeem Jeffers.
In America, we don't have a king, we don't have a monarch, we don't have a dictator.
Yeah, I'm not feeling to inspired by business casual Morpheus, Okay and pay leth Obama's counterpart in the Senate.
He's somehow even less inspiring. It's going to affect beer. Most of it corona here comes from Mexico.
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Shuman is not the man would have planned to fight Trump, heed. The man would have planned for a good single to my own. It's not my job to say that any particular candidates need to be primaried and thrown out of office, but Hakeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schulman need to be primaried and thrown out of office.
I mean, I think he's right in so far as the party needs a total shakeup. I agree with his assessment. This is what you know that there's some that you know that there's a lot of truth being thrown around when people who have been fighters on the right for a long time are saying the same things about the Democrat Party that honest Democrats are saying about the Democrat Party, which is what's going on right now. They need new leadership. Chuck Schumer is not going anywhere though, because of the purse strings. He's a huge fundraising operation. Uh Hakeem Jeffries. I don't think he's actually going to stay in Democrat leadership for very long. But I keep they're so much of the Democrat hopes and dreams rest on AOC's shoulders right now.
I think that he's right about Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. Neither one of them have any particular vision to be able to not only tell Democrats where they should go, but really point out where Trump is rung.
Schumer is there. Mitch McConnell, he's just a fundraising per strings institution in the Senate.
I think he'll be gone in twenty twenty eight when his I think he'll say, hey, I'm not going to run again.
We'll have a new leadership.
I think he's going to be in real trouble if I'm right and they lose seats in twenty twenty six, because then it's hard to make up as many seats as they would need to make up to take back control of the Senate. He wouldn't have any possibility of getting to the majority. But this is where I think Gavin Newsom, as much as I think he is an unabad even by political politician standards, Gavin Newsom is a real liar. Gavin Newsom, I think recognizes that the Democrat Party has lost in the wilderness in a way that many others are not willing to admit, and he's trying to lead them out of the wilderness, including this ridiculous perspective where he's finally decided to take on the idea that men should be able to compete in women's sports. He called it completely unfair. Now he's previously said the exact opposite of that, and I think it leaves him vulnerable, but Democrats don't care. They will nominate him. I think the question is if he were the nominee, would he be able to be defined in a way like Kamala was. I think he's a more sophisticated, better speaker than Kamala is, better than Schumer, better than Hakeem Jefferies. I think you're right about AOC and I think that she would, unfortunately for her, get exposed because I don't know that she's got a lot of debt, but I think she does understand narrative cycle.
I also believe that there is a frustration again the Democrats who know how to win elections in different districts and states who you know, the Democrat consultants who get paid the big bucks to swindle just enough of the voters that the Democrat who's from Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania's like, I'm a Maverick Democrat, right, like that stuff. They can't rely on the abortion issue the way that they were planning on it. I remember there were people who were saying, if Roe v. Wade's overturned Republicans will never win another election, Yes, if rov Wade's overturned Republicans are going to get be And now I knew that wasn't true. And that first election, that first mid term. Afterwards, you know, there was the sort of the some of the Jan six hangover stuff with the insurrection, and then there was in the states I think there were they're able to basically just lie to people and say abortion is going to be illegal in you know, Mexico, or you know, abortion is going to be illegal in New York or so it's never gonna happen. They're not going to change anything, and so that issue is off the table for them as a major nationwide mobilization because anybody who's up for grabs gonna say, look, I know what the deal is in my state. I know what the law is in my state. And that's that's where it is, like they're not, so what really are the Democrats going to run on. I'm telling you they're going to pivot big time to class warfare stuff and healthcare. And I think that's really interesting because how does their pivots to healthcare in advance of the midterms play in with the whole conversation that's going to be happening around Luigi Mangioni, the healthcare Assassin's allegedly right. It's very good because they're going to try to be like, oh, we're the ones that care about people and everything else, and there's gonna be lunatic left wing Democrats who are out there saying we love Luigi as they have been. I think they're going to.
Try to run the abortion playbook again in twenty six and I think it's going to fail. This is my thought because the average person they oversold fear. I think to a lot of people out there, the reality is if you live in a left wing state, abortion is very prominent and easy to get. If you live in a right wing state, it's more difficult, but you can still travel to other states. I don't think the average mom and grandma of fourteen and fifteen year old girls that might have bought in in twenty twenty two and clearly did to the idea that Republicans are going to be dragging your daughters or granddaughters by their hair.
All the fear campaign they were able to pull at one time and now that and it did not affect this presidential election. Nobody was talking about abortion in a way that except for that lady who's like, I'm a political analyst. Yeah.
Look, and they tried aggressively, buck Remember the police officer dragging the woman out of the car, like try, It didn't work, and I think it's not going to work in twenty six again. Look, Major League Baseball season off to a fast start, unless you are a fan of my Atlanta Braves, which chef started off the season zero to six, not ideal. NBA had a to the playoffs and coming up this weekend the Final four. You got Duke, you got going up against Houston, you got Florida, you got Auburn. Awesome all setup. And if you haven't already downloaded the price Picks app on your phone, do it today. It'll make watching the games much more phone fun. All you have to do is pick more or less for any athlete. You can deposit easily with MasterCard, Visa Discover. You can do it in California, you can do it in Texas. You can do it in Georgia. If you're feeling left out, forty states out there, it's super easy to follow. All you have to do to get fifty bucks is go to prizpicks dot com. My name Clay, that's Clay. Prize picks dot com. My name Clay, c l a Y play five dollars, you get fifty dollars. All you have to do is just plug my name in pricepicks dot com. Code Clay.
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A bunch of news stories out there. We talked about the Florida special elections Florida six, Florida one, both Republican.
Wins by around fifteen points.
Appreciate everybody who got out and voted there Wisconsin judge lost. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court will be in the control of Democrats. That could have consequences. Unfortunately, when it comes to redistricting, potentially costing Republicans a couple of different seats depending on how things play out there. I will say very positive result, which is getting some attention, probably deserves more. Overwhelmingly, Wisconsin voters said you should have to show a photo ID to vote, which seems like basic common sense to me but has become an opposition issue of paramount importance to the Democrat Party. Actually, vast majorities of voters believe that that should be a law, that we should make sure that those who are voting are who they say they are, and it's a bare minimum to require somebody to show up and produce a license or a passport or some form of identification in order to cast your ballot, and overwhelming numbers of Wisconsin voters believe that. In fact, Ryan Gerdusky, I saw our data analyst guru as part of the Clay and Buck podcast network, said around two hundred thousand Wisconsin voters voted both for there to be a voter ID requirement and for the left wing judicial nominee so I think what that reflects is that even Democrats believe that that amendment should be law. And so hopefully in the years ahead, as Wisconsin has become ultimate battleground state, it was the closest of all the states in the twenty twenty five election, it was very close in twenty sixteen twenty twenty Senate races, coming down to thousands of votes in one direction or the other. Hopefully that will allow Wisconsin elections going forward to be more reliable than they otherwise would be. Trump four o'clock Eastern scheduled to announce his tariff decision. I will say, if you use the stock market as any sort of proxy, stock market actually having a good day, suggesting perhaps that there is not going to be as much of an economic impact as some investors had feared. Stock market s and P five hundred up about a percent today, which is a not inconsequential number. And for those of you out there who pay attention to this on a regular basis, the stock market is roughly the same place that it was on election day, so about six months. It has come down certainly from where it was in February, but it's about the same place it was six months ago.
Now other news, there has.
Been a release buck and I was reading it during the last commercial break. The Covenant School shooting. This is the transgender shooter ther Town, trans terrorist in Tennessee, my hometown of Nashville, who shot up a Christian school. There is finally a report out about the motivations of that shooter, and I want to read some of these for you because I do think it's important for everybody out there to be aware of what exactly took place. First of all, this shooter chose this location, particularly because of the Christian school, and I'm reading from the official report released by Metro Nashville Police. Even though she was concerned the layout of the school would give students and faculty more places to hide and more time to flee, she was emboldened by the idea students were too young to effectively fight back or flee far. She believed this is a direct quote from the report that was just released. In the last few minutes, she believed the Christian faith of those within would make them meek and afraid, which further assuaged her self doubts the age of the children and the school being considered a Christian school. Made her recognize the instant notoriety the attack would bring. This is also particularly difficult. Again, I'm reading from the report. She initially planned to attack another school in April of twenty twenty one. April thirteenth of twenty twenty one, overwhelmingly, and I'm trying to avoid using this this woman's name, because the report says that she was focused on trying to have international notoriety. And she initially chose April thirteenth, twenty twenty one as her attack date because it was the exact same day as the Columbine attack in Colorado April thirteenth of nineteen ninety nine. She considered it a fitting tribute to the memory of those two killers. She then decided to postpone her attack to get additional training on her firearm to ensure she would be proficient with it to kill as many people as possible. I mean, this is an awful human being. This is from the report.
This is a demon.
On April eighth, twenty twenty one, she canceled the attack on that school, changed her target to Covenant, this Christian school. She then listed the pros and cons for each target in her notebooks, focusing on the physical structure, security of each location, agent backgrounds, and the public reaction she would receive based on this analysis, Listen to how chilling this is. She chose the Covenant School as the better target for three reasons. One, Covenant was more geographically isolated than this other middle school, which she felt would give her more time to kill. Covenant was a private Christian school.
She believed she would.
Receive more notoriety for killing Christians due to the student body at Creswell Middle being predominantly black. She was afraid she would be seen as racist, which would affect how much control she had over the narrative after her death and allow others to state her motive beyond the attack. I mean, buck, this is pure evil. She is a trans left wing terrorists who intentionally targeted Christian kids because she thought it would be a better narrative.
But didn't. She also not go after a school because she was concerned that she would be viewed as racist.
Yeah, that's exactly what it says, right, Yeah, Jo is concerned that she would be.
She was steeped in left wing thinking even when she was she was plotting the mass murder of defenseless children. She's like well, I'm going to kill a bunch of kids, but I want them to be kids who are Christian and I and I don't want anyone to think that I'm racist, though yes, think about that. Everybody. She is or was, thankfully exactly what we knew she was right away, And they hid this from us for months and months and months exactly why we thought, because the system, even in a state like Tennessee, the system does not want us to start to think about Hold on a second, is there is there anything here with her being trans and psychiatric dysfunction and violence, and you know, no one's allowed to even consider that. At this time when she did this shooting, there was a whole theory on the left that was being expanded on in the media that there was a genocide and that was the term that they would use, a genocide of trans people, that the Christian right was perpetrating, and that states were engaged in this horrible behavior of stopping the gender mutilation, the genital mutilation of children because of the trans agenda, and she chose the targets based upon her left wing ideology. She did this at a time when the Democrat mainstream, the mainstream Democrat party was arguing in favor of transing kids and if you tried to stop this, if you're a parent, maybe the kids should be taken from you by this state. And that there was violence against trans people as some kind of national epidemic. All lives, all nonsense, I might add. So everything that we thought was true about this monster, now it comes out it was true, and all that stuff about how all we can't know, and yeah, we can know. We should have known this right away. They held it for political reasons. We knew it the whole time, and there should be some accountability for the politics that were played here because the public had a right to know, and holding it this long was done not for public safety, not for privacy, but for politics. I'm reading and continuing to read.
This is a forty eight page report that has just been released by the Metro Nashville Police. I am going to, you know, continue, I'm going to share this so if you want to go read it yourself again. This individual wanted to be famous, so I think trying not to use names, trying not to make her famous, because that's the reason that she did this.
They say.
Buck sixteen notebooks were seized, two found within her vehicle after her death, the other fourteen inside the bedroom in her residence, all sorts of details about the planning of this particular attack.
And she went to a school without an armed resource officer, armed security. There were schools with armed security. The school she went to didn't have armed security. Another thing I might add that we're not somehow allowed to talk about that. She specifically goes, oh, this school is further from police help. There's no armed officer at the school. She did target scouting of these locations beforehand, that's right. And you know, the people that are saying, oh, but we're going to ban guns, they're idiots. They're not going to stop anything. That's not going to help. But what might have helped, and what could help is having a armed resource officer on campus, having security, having concealed carrie for teachers who want to do so, you know, who want to be able to protect their campus, and they're you know, people that are that are look, I mean I conceal carrie. People that conceal carry. They're walking around the in states where it's legal, they're walking around the mall, keeping you safe. Whether you know it or not. They're walking around you know, crowded areas keeping you safe, whether you know it or not. The idea that this should be banned from schools and that you should even be like, face imprisonment if you're a lawful gun owner, and even leave the gun in your trunk of a of a because schools are gun free zones. Gun free zones are idiotic. It is absurd that bad guys don't care that it's a gun free zone. And this again goes to show it's just isn't The frustration here is they know this, it's hard to get as much attention for that. Now that we have the facts and can really discuss this, they don't, you know, the laugh that wanted to you know, oh it's just about don't demonize the trans community, or this is about gun control, or all the things that they want to say. They said, And now that we can actually present the facts, stories old, a lot of people have, you know, the public consciousness obviously not the families, the tragedy tragedies of what happened here, but for a lot of the country's attention right now not on this issue totally.
And I'm going to keep reading this during the break because I think some of these details continue. She rated other mass killers based on the number of people they killed. In her documents, what targets selected level of notoriety. She considered offenders who killed a low number of people to be amateurs who weren't worthy of her respect. I mean, this is an evil, evil person. I mean, just I'm gonna read this.
It's as demonic as choosing to murder helpless children because they're helpless and because they're Christian, because their families might have some connection to God. I don't know what could be more demonic than this. Just God blessed that officer who and both those officers who showed us how it's done, who stopped the threat, who ran into that building. We all saw it on video. They didn't hesitate, they didn't pull a Uvoldy. They realized there were lives at risk, and they went in there and they eliminated the threat and they took out the demon. And they deserve so much credit for that. And I know so many of you in law enforcement across the country you would do exactly the same thing. And it's good that we see that. You know, heroes can can arise in the midst of just the most depraved acts of evil, which is exactly what this trans terrorist did. All let's talk about our sponsor here for a moment, switching gears. Rapid Radios. They make incredible walkie talkies. The con you can use to connect to anyone nationwide who has a rapid radio. They've innovated those old school walkie talkies that we grew up with with new technology to make them even better than ever before. The twenty twenty five version by Rapid Radios empowers you to talk to anyone because these devices have a nationwide LTE network they connect to. There aren't any monthly fees, no contracts assigned, just a small annual fee that keeps your device current up to speed. We've used rapid radios. They're practical, they're fun. They come in very handy when there's severe disruptions caused by weather. This is a fun tool to have around the house day to day. Speaking to elderly relatives, having with your kids also should be part of your preparation plan because when stuff hits the fan and you want to be able to talk to family member, family members a mile or hundreds of miles down the road, Rapid Radios is there for you. They were there for my family. Go to rapid radios dot com. You'll get up to sixty percent off, free ups shipping from Michigan, plus a free protection bag. Add Code Radio and get an extra five percent off. That's Rapid Radios dot Com. Up to sixty percent off there. Plus when you add Code Radio you'll get an extra five percent off. You don't know what. You don't know right, but you could.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. And Buck, there's a major viral controversy out there and it has turned into a really sort of cultural flashpoint. You have the facts, I think in front of you right now. But there was a dad who was trying to get to a job interview and he had three young kids and he took them to McDonald's. The interview was close to the McDonald's. The kids are ten years old, four years old and one year old ten six in one, okay, ten six and one, and he left them at the McDonald's to do the interview.
Where did this take place? So this was in Augusta, Georgia, and it was one of those McDonald's that has the attached playground, right and so he and it was right next to her. The job interview is. This guy's twenty four years old, Chris Lewis. He's a father, he's a black guy, Augusta, Georgia. Ten year old, six year old, one year old children. He went to go to the interview and when he came back, somebody had called the police on the fact that these three kids were in the playground. And since this and he was arrested. Okay, they arrested him. They didn't just sort of give him a warn, and they arrested him. And now this has gotten a lot of attentions. People are saying, hold on a second. You know, he doesn't have money for a babysitter. His family situation is difficult. He's trying to get a job, to do things the right way, to put money, you know, in the bank account, food on the table for the kids and himself. And you're gonna arrest this guy and give him a record over this. A lot of people are saying, you know, ten tens if you go to if you just to throw this out there, I haven't done this, but my little brother went for a visit. There's like eight year olds riding the subway alone in Tokyo. Oh okay, I mean this, and like all not just Tokyo, like all over Japan there are cultures where eight, nine ten year olds move about freely. And I think it actually says a lot more that we're all so have to be so freaked out in this country that a ten year old is going to be kidnapped in public. You know, it says a lot more about how we need to work on public safety here. But okay, what do you think? I gotta say? I find my self in the you know, I think this is I don't think that guys should have been arrested. I think the cops probably should say, hey, man, like you know, keep it, you know, keep it closer, eye on your kids. You know, you know, bad thing's gonna happen. I don't think you should have been arrested. I certainly I think they're gonna the judge is going to dismiss the charges. A lot of big name uh celebrities have gotten involved in this. What do you think I mean, basically, Okay, a ten year old, maybe that's too. Is a twelve year old too young? Okay?
So I got to I've got three kids that would have been at some point in time roughly akin to these ages. Right, At one point I had a ten year old, a six year old, and a two year old or some something like that. So I had three boys around these ages. I need more info. How long were they at the McDonald's, right? That factors into me on some level. The one And I think most parents are gonna flag this. A one year old is really really young. So is it like a one year old, meaning it's a twelvemonth old, or is it like a one year old and it's a twenty two month old. The reason why I bring up the one year old is one year olds need diapers changed. They is the ten year old changing the diaper?
Like?
How long was the dad there with the leaving the kids. I'm just gonna go out on a I don't think he was. I'm just guessing.
I don't think he was going for like three hours of interviews at McKinsey or something like. You probably would sit down with a guy talk to him for fifteen or twenty minutes. That's the question, you know what I mean? I would not standard. Again, not casting any spursions, but I think it's probably a pretty standard job interview. You know, I don't think they were asking him to do a multi variable calculus.
The ten year old in general, every other every parent out there is going to understand this too. There's a wide range of ten year olds when it comes to their responsibility. Like some ten year olds are I mean that's fifth grade. Some can be I've got a ten year old right now, fourth grade. Again, you don't know exactly when they're turning. Are they old about to be eleven?
Now? You know what if, for example, if he had said, just throwing this out there, if he had said to one of the employees at McDonald's, hey, and you keep it, can you keep an eye with my kids? I'll be back in twenty minutes. I've just got to run down the street for a job interview. Can you keep an eye on them? Everybody cool with that? Everybody that would actually draw more attention to you not being there. Well, but but you know, I'm just so, what what are the what?
So?
I want to know?
So, first of all, I don't think the guy should be arrested, but again, I want to know more info because as more info comes out, sometimes the cops look more reasonable. What if the kids were there for two hours? What if what if the one year old was crying and the ten year old couldn't get it to stop, and eventually they had to say, like, what's going on?
Hearing to the Augusta Press, it was a short time and he came back immediately. Now, what is a short time? I mean, a short time is not two hours. I think you know, less than an hour is a short time in my mind for this kind of a thing. So maybe the kids are there. Let's assume they're there.
He's trying to do The point is, I think intent matters. He's trying to take care of his family. You don't know what might have happened with the babysitter. Did somebody gets then grandma and not be able to help out, Like.
It's not like, you know, he left the kids so we could go to a strip club in the middle of the day or well. I think it's also right, But I'm just saying, you know, the public sympathy for someone trying to show up for an interview, trying to get a job, trying to earn money. The right way is substantial here. Yeah, I think its a tough spot.
I would not have Again, I always want to give the cops benefit of the doubt because so many of these stories go viral and then more details come out and you're like, oh it was two hours, and oh it was a baby and the baby was crying, and people were concerned about I think the ten and the six year old. It wouldn't have been noticed because I think the ten and the six year old, the one year old, the one year old that throws the h I think, you know that's very I mean ten and six year olds can go to the bathroom on their own, they can play inside of a play area on their own. A lot of ten year olds aren't responsible enough to watch a one year old. Again, it could be a one year old that's almost two and the one year old's playing in the in the area itself two. But I'm sympathetic to the dad because or the mom.
And I would also just say keep in mind because it's at a McDonald's with the attached playground. That's right. There are not only just people, but there are adults who work there. Who are you know, you assume the ten again, Look, it's clearly not a perfect situation. It was not the right move. But is it a arrestable you get a criminal record?
Move?
Is really where people have that whole lot.
Of second No, I don't think it's an arrestable move, and I think it's a warning. And again I want to know more details. I would love to hear from the guy. Has he done an interview yet? Like this is something that I think would be he's got he's got to go fund me that's kicking up. Okay, well, I like the go fund me. But we have a huge audience in Augusta. I think we have nearly the number one radio show in Augusta, Georgia. Masters are coming up soon. I bet there's people who own businesses that would be interested in hiring this guy if again, he's got a the willingness to try to put his family first. So yeah, that's the point. I think you met.
You said the word intent, and I think that that needs to be always such in most statutes. It is not always, but I think it should always at least be taken into account before you're gonna charge somebody and give somebody possibly a criminal record. People trying to do the right thing absent, recklessness, or you know, some very specific set of circumstances should certainly be always taken as a mitigating factor, like I wasn't trying to do anything wrong. I was actually trying to do a good thing and had an error of judgment, you know, And look, judges do take this into I don't think this guy's gonna end up getting a criminal record. I think also again, it's also the case every single parent has had this happen where you try to do everything right and you've got a babysitter and you've got somebody to watch your kid, and it doesn't happen. Every single parent listening to me right now has had grandma or an aunt or a babysitter scheduled and then at the last possible moment, you get a call babysitter sick, babysitter just isn't that reliable, doesn't show up. And this guy, if he had the interview again, I would love to hear the full story because I think we could get this guy hired in Augusta, Georgia, just based on our Augusta, Georgia listenership. If the story is as it has been reported, and he's trying to bust his ass to help take care of three young kids, and he knows he has to get this job. What other options he have? It's hot, right, you don't want to leave the kids in the car, because God forbid, that's way more dangerous, clear safety issue as a whole set. That would be child and dangermine, no question.
Now you could show up at the interview with the kids and be like, hey, this is why I need the job so bad. But what again, Like, he probably doesn't want to look like desperate or unreliable that you need to bring bringing.
Your kids to a job interview. What is the what is the age at which you are free and clear to let a child stay, you know, stay either well, I think home is probably different than in a public totally different r That is true. So but what what would be the age at which we would all say, oh, it's fine that you let your kids stay alone at McDonald's while you went down the block for an hour? Is it? Is it thirteen? An hour? Everybody? Hour is a long time. The ten and the six year old.
I think a lot of parents would say McDonald's playground if suddenly you had to run next door for twenty minutes you wouldn't want to do it. Dad, by the way, way more likely to do it than mom. Let's be honest, Like dad, dads have a little bit higher risk tollards for kids than mom does. But I think a lot of Dad's ten and six. It's the one that I come back to. Yeah, the one is that one year old is like, I mean, you're in a you're basically in a carrying case if you're a young one year old, if you're one and a half.
I mean when the one year old was in a stroller basically in the shade. Again, we don't know all the details of the situation. One year on the stroller, they're in the playground, you know. I want if I were him, I would have said, hey, can you keep it in again? Well, I will have tried not to do this whole thing, obviously, but in a worst worst case basis like oh my god, my house is burning down and didn't run down the street, I think I would have told somebody McDonald's, hey, could you just do me a solid and keep an eye on my kids, you know, because you can see them from well again, I would love to talk to this guy to find out the details. Presumably another parent is the one who raised the issue was their kids? Where the kids misbehaving inside of the play area? Did the details matter a lot? Yeah? You know so for some reason that did the kids look like they were distressed? Where they all was one of them? Were they crying and they felt like they were abandoned? I guess they don't know everything.
Did one of the parents there say where's your dad or your mom? And they're like, oh, he left us? Well?
What is the age as a parent? Where you are in America?
Now?
Where you are? I mean, I bet we can have people call in who are like I was, you know eleven, I'm like driving a pickup truck down the road and you know, we're in a rural and like, you know, I know that would have been forty or fifty years ago maybe, but I think things have changed.
I think the standards are a lot different even than when we were kids. I mean, I rode the school bus home in fifth grade, got out, walked home. Nobody else was in the house. What are you like, twelve eleven? I think in fifth grade? Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. Is this kid fifth grade? Fourth I've got a fourth grader now, yes, see, I think it's I think a thirteen. I think if someone says, oh, you know, can your thirteen year old be alone in public for an hour without parental supervision under certain circumscis, I think most people would say thirteen is one hundred percent right, like.
Thirteen year old of them all? And what right?
Right?
Right?
But so I think I think the ten year old is right on that level because ten year old can be fifth grade, ten year old can be fourth grade, like you are reliabed. Also, does a kid have a phone, you know, some ability to be contacted? And again, how long were they actually left there? Did they buy food?
Like?
I think that factors into because if you own McDonald's and you just drop your kids off and you don't buy any food, don't buy any drink, I think people would say, you know, like.
That's different too. I'd be curious for any of if you're a parent and you have a WE want if you have a strong take on this one way or the other. Yeah, he should have been arrested. You can't do this reckless the one year old or this is not Why would some because you know, Clay and I have both been kind of going back and forth, and if you think it's crazy he got arrested, he wasn't trying. Let's hear from you on this. And also, if you're from law enforcement, I'm wondering if you have any experience with this kind of thing and where you draw the line. I'm probably in different states, there's a different there are different guidelines about this. But when it was like endangering a miner or something like that was what he would Deprivation of a miner was the charge he was arrested for. Okay, well, is that kind of up to the discretion of the officer in a situation, you know, absent abuse, anything bad happening, is that up to the officer. I'm kind of curious. I have no idea.
Yeah, and I'm curious on the responses. And again in Augusta, this is a twenty four year old guy. Now it says that he has a ten year old. It may not be his kid, right, I mean, he may be taking care of other people's kids. Maybe some of the kids are his. I just need more information to have a full on opinion on it. But what do they always say? I think it's one hundred percent true. You know who the best employees are men with kids, man with the kids, man with a family is going to show up and he's going to come to work. As a general rule, more reliable than single guy.
Is vip email from Gary? Is this correct? How about the fact that he's twenty four with a ten year old kid?
Well, that's what it says. So I was just saying, is it actually his Is it actually his kid? The oldest ten year old? Is he in charge of taking care of multiple kids? Again, there are a lot of detailed stuff we do, stuff that I need to be able to out. There's stuff we don't know, definitely need to be fleshed out. But I mean, there are people who have young kids, have kids at young ages and are trying to do the right thing. And to me, if you're trying to get a job to take care of your family, intent matters here. You're trying to do something to help your family be better off than they otherwise would, which is why I want to know more details. But again, I also think you have to be fair of the police because the police oftentimes don't get their full story told. How many times have we seen a viral story where the police are the bad guy and the police are the bad guys here, and then the details come out and it's like, well, the kids are there for an hour and a half.
I wouldn't even say the police to back it. Might it might be It's kind of like with a teacher in school. Sometimes they don't police. Might it might be mandatory because of the age of the one year old, no parental So I actually don't blame the officers without knowing what all the facts are and being on that, I'm not blaming the officers like there's a lot that's for the bottom line here is what's the age at which you're allowed to leave a kid in public alone and not get arrested? Six year olds I would be okay with some of you are going to say this, but it might may actually be a function of law in some states. I don't know.
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