The first Trump/Kamala debate is over, and now the more important task of framing the aftermath begins. Producer Andrew discusses the public's reaction to the debate with Alex Marlow and Batya Ungar-Sargon, and the surprising evidence that even voters who think Kamala "won" the debate actually lean more toward Trump than before.

Bonus Episode: Charlie's Best Immigration Debates
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Remembering Two Heroes, New York Times Anti-News, and AMA 258
1:11:20

The Mideast Gas Fire + The NYC Dumpster Fire
1:15:40