PSA for anyone still thinking transformation = tech upgrade: You’re doing it wrong!

Join Pete and Kat as they kick off The Change Agents Podcast with a spicy convo on why people are the real engine of transformation. From HR to the help desk, they're putting the human back in the digital.

Expect:
👩‍💻 A reality check on tech-led change
🧠 Why understanding the why matters
🤝 Leadership lessons in trust, transparency, and co-design
🧯 A light roasting of change theatre (yes, we're looking at you, PowerPoint warriors)
🚀 How to avoid automating chaos and start building real momentum

If you've ever sat through a transformation initiative that forgot to invite the people actually affected... this one’s for you. Let’s stop pretending culture change comes from a software install.

PSA for anyone still thinking transformation = tech upgrade: You&rsquo;re doing it wrong!
Join Pete and Kat as they kick off The Change Agents Podcast with a spicy convo on why people are the real engine of transformation. From HR to the help desk, they're putting the human back in the digital.
Expect: 👩&zwj;💻 A reality check on tech-led change 🧠 Why understanding the why matters 🤝 Leadership lessons in trust, transparency, and co-design 🧯 A light roasting of change theatre (yes, we're looking at you, PowerPoint warriors) 🚀 How to avoid automating chaos and start building real momentum
If you've ever sat through a transformation initiative that forgot to invite the people actually affected... this one&rsquo;s for you. Let&rsquo;s stop pretending culture change comes from a software install.

The podcast where work flows, buzzwords go, and digital transformation gets the side-eye it sometimes deserves. In each episode, we chat with the change makers, risk takers, and quietly brilliant minds behind real change – no filters, no fluff, just the good stuff.

Expect tales of automation magic, AI mishaps, platform glow-ups, and the occasional hot take on why legacy systems should come with hazard pay. It’s sharp, a little weird, and totally worth your coffee break. (Or wine break – we won’t judge. In fact, we’ll probably join you!)

This is transformation – with better banter.

Hosted by ServiceNow's human agents: Peter McDonnell, Chief Transformation Officer and Katrina Read, Director of Transformation APJ

The podcast where work flows, buzzwords go, and digital transformation gets the side-eye it sometimes deserves. In each episode, we chat with the change makers, risk takers, and quietly brilliant minds behind real change &ndash; no filters, no fluff, just the good stuff. Expect tales of automation magic, AI mishaps, platform glow-ups, and the occasional hot take on why legacy systems should come with hazard pay. It&rsquo;s sharp, a little weird, and totally worth your coffee break. (Or wine break &ndash; we won&rsquo;t judge. In fact, we&rsquo;ll probably join you!) This is transformation &ndash; with better banter. Hosted by ServiceNow's human agents: Peter McDonnell, Chief Transformation Officer and Katrina Read, Director of Transformation APJ

The Change Agents Podcast

The podcast where work flows, buzzwords go, and transformation gets the side-eye it sometimes deserves. In each episode, we share insights from the change makers, risk takers, and quietly brilliant minds behind real change – no filters, no fluff, just the good stuff.

Expect practical advice onbusiness, digital and AI transformation, operational resilience, and tech modernisation - along with the challenges that come with replacing outdated systems and ways of working. Our focus is on sharing insights that matter: how organisations are adapting, where technology is enabling growth, and what leaders can learn from real transformation journeys.

If you’re interested in the future of work, AI in the enterprise, or building a sustainable digital transformation strategy, this podcast offers clear perspectives and actionable takeaways to help you shape what comes next.

Hosted by ServiceNow's human agents: Peter McDonnell, Chief Transformation Officer and Katrina Read, Director of Transformation APJ

The podcast where work flows, buzzwords go, and transformation gets the side-eye it sometimes deserves. In each episode, we share insights from the change makers, risk takers, and quietly brilliant minds behind real change &ndash; no filters, no fluff, just the good stuff.
Expect practical advice on business, digital and AI transformation, operational resilience, and tech modernisation - along with the challenges that come with replacing outdated systems and ways of working. Our focus is on sharing insights that matter: how organisations are adapting, where technology is enabling growth, and what leaders can learn from real transformation journeys.
If you&rsquo;re interested in the future of work, AI in the enterprise, or building a sustainable digital transformation strategy, this podcast offers clear perspectives and actionable takeaways to help you shape what comes next.
Hosted by ServiceNow's human agents: Peter McDonnell, Chief Transformation Officer and Katrina Read, Director of Transformation APJ

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