In this conversation, Carl discusses the significance of good journalism, emphasizing the need for objectivity and balance in news reporting. He critiques the current state of journalism, particularly at CBS, and highlights Barry Weiss's efforts to uphold journalistic integrity by pulling a controversial 60 Minutes story about illegal aliens. Jackson argues that biased reporting undermines civility and intellectualism in society, advocating for a return to factual reporting that allows viewers to form their own opinions.

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