In this episode, Carl Jackson interviews FBI whistleblower Stephen Friend about the nomination of Cash Patel as FBI director. They discuss Patel's qualifications, the need for reform within the FBI, and strategies for addressing public concerns and narratives surrounding the agency. Friend emphasizes the importance of dismantling the current incentive structures within the FBI and suggests immediate actions Patel could take to initiate reform. The conversation concludes with a focus on how the new leadership can effectively communicate their mission to the public.

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