Steve Fishman sits down for a Q&A with Joe Loya, the star of the new podcast Get the Money and Run. Listen in as Joe shares with Steve the answers to many questions from listeners and reveals some of the details that went into creating one of the finest podcasts of 2025.

Get the Money and Run is a production of Western Sound and aCast Studios in association with Orbit Media Inc.

Steve Fishman&nbsp;sits down for a Q&amp;A with Joe Loya, the star of the new podcast Get the Money and Run. Listen in as Joe shares with Steve the answers to many questions from listeners and reveals some of the details that went into creating one of the finest podcasts of 2025.
Get the Money and Run is a production of Western Sound and aCast Studios in association with Orbit Media Inc.

The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. 

Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run

“Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. 

Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger

Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. 

Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country.

Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood 

Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. 

This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago.

Season 1 - The Burden 

In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname.

Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance.

For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. 

Welcome to The Burden.

The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them.&nbsp;
Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run
&ldquo;Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.&rdquo; That&rsquo;s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how&hellip; and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father.&nbsp;
Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger
Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina&rsquo;s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice.&nbsp;
Avenger is about one woman&rsquo;s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country.
Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood&nbsp;
Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as &ldquo;The Corner on Blood.&rdquo; The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn&rsquo;t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question.&nbsp;
This is the story of one man&rsquo;s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone&rsquo;s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director&rsquo;s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago.
Season 1 - The Burden&nbsp;
In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. &ldquo;The Hulk&rdquo; was his nickname.
Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance.
For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that&rsquo;s all he&rsquo;d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. &ldquo;The guilty have gone free,&rdquo; he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast.&nbsp;
Welcome to The Burden.

The Burden

Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. 

Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country.

Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. 
Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country.

The Burden: Get the Money and Run

Get the Money and Run Q&A with Joe Loya - Hosted by Steve Fishman

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15-year-old Barbara Louise Cotton vanished from the streets of Williston, North Dakota, on April
11, 1981, five blocks from her home. What happened to Barbara Cotton?

 In episode 1, while others called Barbara a 'runaway', a frustrated yet unyielding Sandee Evanson refuses to stop looking for her childhood friend.

A Better Search for Barbara is a deep, investigative dive into one of North Dakota's longest
running cold cases.

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15-year-old Barbara Louise Cotton vanished from the streets of Williston, North Dakota, on April 11, 1981, five blocks from her home. What happened to Barbara Cotton?
&nbsp;In episode 1, while others called Barbara a 'runaway', a frustrated yet unyielding Sandee Evanson refuses to stop&nbsp;looking for her childhood friend.
A Better Search for Barbara is a deep, investigative dive into one of North Dakota's longest running cold cases.
Music by Wowza in Kalamazoo: https://wowzainkalamazoo.bandcamp.com/ Check out the full catalog and everything Dakota Spotlight: <a href="https://dakotaspotlight.com/">https://dakotaspotlight.com/</a>
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Introducing: Dakota Spotlight - A Better Search for Barbara  Episode 1

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Once out of prison, Joe is insulted by a stranger. His rage mounts. Will he lash out and spend the rest of his days in prison? Or will he find comfort in his once violent family? It’s his moment of fatal peril. 

Get the Money and Run is a production of Western Sound and aCast Studios in association with Orbit Media Inc.

Once out of prison, Joe is insulted by a stranger. His rage mounts. Will he lash out and spend the rest of his days in prison? Or will he find comfort in his once violent family? It&rsquo;s his moment of fatal peril.&nbsp;
Get the Money and Run is a production of Western Sound and aCast Studios in association with Orbit Media Inc.

Get the Money and Run | Fatal Peril

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Joe is sent to solitary confinement. Alone he starts to hear voices in  his head and to hallucinate. He struggles with a question: Can he be a good person? 

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Joe is sent to solitary confinement. Alone he starts to hear voices in&nbsp; his head and to hallucinate. He struggles with a question: Can he be a good person?&nbsp;
Get the Money and Run is a production of Western Sound and aCast Studios in association with Orbit Media Inc.

Get the Money and Run | Life on the Inside

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