Marti sits down with David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand and Leader of the ACT Party, inside the Beehive. David opens up about his background in an electrical contracting family, learning early on that "you come in at the end of the job when most of the screw-ups are already made."

They discuss the "unbalanced relationship" of current employment laws, where employers face massive risks just to part ways with underperforming staff. David explains why he believes "no one really knows very much" and why the government needs to stop promising to build 100,000 houses and start letting businesses use "trial and error" to succeed. He also shares the success of Charter Schools (like Vanguard) and why removing rigid union contracts was the key to their performance.

🕒 Timestamped Key Points
[01:42] Background: Recovering electrical engineer in a contracting family
[02:00] The reality of construction: "Copper prices" and "screw-ups"
[03:05] The philosophy: "No one really knows very much"
[04:44] Winning power without promising "other people's money"
[10:26] Charter Schools: Why Vanguard Military School works
[13:15] Union contracts vs. Accountability: The Anzac Day example
[21:37] The "Bad Relationship": Why firing someone costs $20k
[22:09] Why more security for employees means fewer job choices
[26:18] Government as a "Better Owner": Do we need to own a radio station?
[33:12] Why governments fail when they try to "pick winners"

 

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Marti sits down with David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand and Leader of the ACT Party, inside the Beehive. David opens up about his background in an electrical contracting family, learning early on that "you come in at the end of the job when most of the screw-ups are already made."
They discuss the "unbalanced relationship" of current employment laws, where employers face massive risks just to part ways with underperforming staff. David explains why he believes "no one really knows very much" and why the government needs to stop promising to build 100,000 houses and start letting businesses use "trial and error" to succeed. He also shares the success of Charter Schools (like Vanguard) and why removing rigid union contracts was the key to their performance.
🕒 Timestamped Key Points
<ul>
<li>[01:42] Background: Recovering electrical engineer in a contracting family</li>
<li>[02:00] The reality of construction: "Copper prices" and "screw-ups"</li>
<li>[03:05] The philosophy: "No one really knows very much"</li>
<li>[04:44] Winning power without promising "other people's money"</li>
<li>[10:26] Charter Schools: Why Vanguard Military School works</li>
<li>[13:15] Union contracts vs. Accountability: The Anzac Day example</li>
<li>[21:37] The "Bad Relationship": Why firing someone costs $20k</li>
<li>[22:09] Why more security for employees means fewer job choices</li>
<li>[26:18] Government as a "Better Owner": Do we need to own a radio station?</li>
<li>[33:12] Why governments fail when they try to "pick winners"</li>
</ul>
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Our construction business coaching has helped 2,500+ building companies succeed.
Subscribe to The Builder&rsquo;s Ladder Podcast for weekly, actionable insights &mdash; tailored to help you grow a profitable construction business.
&nbsp;
Follow TPB for more:
<ul>
<li>👥 FB Group &ndash; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/professionalbuilder">https://www.facebook.com/groups/professionalbuilder</a></li>
<li>📸 Instagram &ndash; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/theprofessionalbuilder/">https://www.instagram.com/theprofessionalbuilder/</a></li>
<li>🖥️ Get your business health audit + free resources (including website audit) here &ndash; <a href="https://www.theprofessionalbuilder.com">https://www.theprofessionalbuilder.com</a></li>
<li>🚀 Head to <a href="https://tpb.tools/pod-call">https://tpb.tools/pod-call</a> to book your FREE strategy session.</li>
<li>📈 Resources For Builders &ndash; <a href="https://tpb.tools/resources">https://tpb.tools/resources</a></li>
</ul>
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Welcome to The Builders Ladder, for residential builders and construction business owners who want to fast-track their results, scale their construction company, and create a systemized, profitable construction business.

If you’re ready to free up your time, increase profit, and build a high-performing team, you’re in the right place.

Your host, Marti Amos, has worked with over 5,000 building companies globally over the last 19+ years through builder coaching and proven business systems. His mission? To help you climb the builder’s ladder and run a predictable, high-margin construction business.

Tune in to hear from industry experts and discover step-by-step strategies to become a strategic building business owner - and ultimately, achieve true wealth, time freedom, and financial freedom through your residential construction business.

Welcome to The Builders Ladder, for residential builders and construction business owners who want to fast-track their results, scale their construction company, and create a systemized, profitable construction business.
If you&rsquo;re ready to free up your time, increase profit, and build a high-performing team, you&rsquo;re in the right place.
Your host, Marti Amos, has worked with over 5,000 building companies globally over the last 19+ years through builder coaching and proven business systems. His mission? To help you climb the builder&rsquo;s ladder and run a predictable, high-margin construction business.
Tune in to hear from industry experts and discover step-by-step strategies to become a strategic building business owner - and ultimately, achieve true wealth, time freedom, and financial freedom through your residential construction business.

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