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Hey, welcome to the Buck Brief Everybody. This episode, Wilfred Riley with us for the first time on the program. He is a professor and he has a great book.
Lies. My liberal teacher told.
Me the book could be thousands of pages long, but it is normal reading length for all of you out there, so don't worry.
Wilfrid appreciate you being with us.
Can I start with this because this is a debate that came up today on the radio show. What should people make of the fact that Kamala Harris is a Dei hire of sorts as VP. So Kamala is a Dei hire. Biden seems to be a dementia patient, and so far the Democrats are going with the dementia patient.
Well, I mean, Kamala Harris is a terrible candidate. Kamala Harris actually illustrates some of the risks of quote unquote DEI hiring. I mean the New York Post journalist I think we both know casually actually took a lot of heat for saying this. Could be the first DEI president. Yeah, but I mean, you know, uncle Joe, Joe Biden was very open about saying, look, I want a black woman as my VP. I want to do that for the first time. It's going to be, you know, an irishman from Scranton and a black lady running this country. And so he picked the one black candidate in the race who wasn't exactly you know, Carol Swain or one of the great intellectual lights of the country. She was pulling it one point seventy nine percent. I mean, she had to drop out of the race before she got to her state when she was running for president. That's pretty exceptional. So now you're in that position where the person you've picked as a DEI executive is going to theoretically have to take over the top job, and you find yourself in a position a lot of us have been in at a lower level where you kind of know they can't do that. So it's pretty problematic for Joe Biden. I mean, right now, obviously, the average Democrat would probably rather see Joe continue than Kamala Harris. The problem is Joe Biden's not functional. So who do you pick and you can't just skip the president and the vice and throwing Gavin Newsom and Raphael Warnock. I mean, that's not realistic.
I keep saying this to people.
I keep telling everyone, Look, I'm persuadable that it's going to end up being common. I still think it's going to be Joe Biden. And I've been very consistent on this, and I'll tell you a Professor Riley, I've gotten emails for the last year telling me that I'm nuts, And now they're not saying I'm nuts anymore. They're saying, I still think you might be wrong, but I'm not going to say you're nuts because it's so close to the end, and Biden is still very much that the nominee.
I mean, the.
Idea that you would replace you would have Biden.
I suppose he would.
He would somehow say I'm not running and I don't want my vice to ascend. I'm not going to resign. I'm not going to elevate the first black she would become de facto, she would become, based on the line of succession, the first black female president, right if she could run as an incumbent, And then you're going to go into the convention and allow for a huge fight, and you're going to put the uh, kind of smarmy white guy Gavin Newsom from California ahead of her and hope that black female voters aren't going to think what the heck is going on here?
It just makes no sense.
Yeah, it's not going to happen. And I mean Harris has said that pretty openly. I mean she's kind of, you know, left shown the hilt of the knife a little bit talking about, you know, the most loyal set of voters in the Democratic Party knows who I am and knows what I bring to the table. Yeah. Yeah, I mean Gavin Newsome an interesting guy, friends of Sean Hannity and all that, but it kind of looks like a sociopathic Kendall Brooks Brothers down to the shoes. You can't really trot him out in front of someone who went to Howard black sorority woman and just tell the black voting base, well, this is what we had to do and throw another black vice in there. I mean, I don't think you're going to get away with that. Is it's either it's either the dimitipation or the or Harris as president, and it's going to be Harris's president. If Joe runs, by the way, Joe Biden's not going to make it.
I mean, you and I totally agree on this, by the way, but see, to me, this means it's actually more likely that it will be Biden through the election because I think implicitly everybody in American politics, certainly on the Democrat side, and I think in general, understands Joe Biden is just running to make sure that a Democrat has the job for four more years. I don't think even Joe Biden thinks. And if people will say, oh, why would he give it up? Then because he would have he would have vanquished. In Joe Biden's mind, he'll vanquish Donald Trump, and he will. He'll say he already did it once. He'll vanquish Donald Trump again. He'll effectively destroy MAGA. Right, this is again the Democrat narrative and hand the first black female president the job of president as like his great legacy moment. Joe Biden would do that in a heartbeat. The book, the book advance He's gonna get goes from you know, five to fifteen million overnight.
Yeah, I mean, there's also another more practical reason that Joe Biden's probably gonna end up and handing the title over. Like I remember watching the debate with some of my buddies down here in Kentucky and somebody asks, you know, who's that that Joe Biden's looking at off the screen? Is it a handler? And somebody else said, it's Jesus, you know, not joking, not trying to blaspheme too much, but just this is a person that's very close to that mortal coil. I think, yeah, he's going to fight through the election if they let him. But yeah, I mean I would say, you're talking if you're voting for Joe Biden for the mainstream Democrats listening to this show for a change of pays, what you're voting for its President Harris inside a year, and then you're going to see another set of conflicts within the party as Harris picks a vice president and we kind of settle in with a new administration with her at the top. I mean, you know, I've I've pretty much openly said I'm I'm voting for Trump. Given the options, I mean, it's it's either you know, Big Trump, or it's the Biden Harris ticket. Both parties by now have picked their nominee. There were options in the primaries. Ron DeSantis was in the primaries. I don't I don't necessarily know why either party came to the conclusion that they did. But there are there are two candidates in the race.
And that's I mean, this is you know, Biden's letter that he put that he put out to Congress. I made this argument on radio or you know, I in essence defended the Biden point of view to other Democrats, which is Biden won the primary. I mean, there were people that try to run against them, and there were other options, and Biden beat Democrats as the incumnment president in the primary, people millions of Democrats voted for him. This idea that he had a you know that he was exposed in the debate, and so now he's forced to step down.
He's not forced, he can choose to do it.
But I actually, Professor Riley, I want to come back and ask you in a second here, because you teach at a historically black college at university, right you teach in h hb CU. I want to ask how you see the conversation from within, you know, from the black community about Biden Harris. But but first up just from our sponsor here for a second, professors, you can take a take a sip of some coffee or tea or something. Porter Stansbury's a friend in business partner of mine from the past, and he did something really interesting that everybody at home should know about. He cut his salary down to one dollar. Now, he didn't just do this because the guy's got a lot of money. He doesn't really need that much money. No, No, he thinks there's a better way to get paid, a way that more Americans should be aware of. He's the CEO of a publicly traded company, but he doesn't care as much about just the straight compensation as he does about some other way to get paid. It's not gold or bitcoin. Porter says that every American is legally entitled to use what he calls this secret currency. Go check out what Porter's talking about. I recommend you see this latest documentary presentation online at secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. He details how to protect and grow your wealth in the years to come using America's new money. Don't doubt what he has to say. Go check it out for yourself. Go to secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. That's secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. We're gonna get to lives my liberal teacher told me. Which is Professor Roy's book, which I mean just the title alone, I'm sold. We're going to talk about some of that though in a moment. But first up, So Wilford, what what's it like the you know, when you think about I know that you know, school's not really in session now, though I'm sure there are summer session people. But when you're looking at the conversation on an HBCU these days about politics and about the Biden Harris ticket, like, how do you because we keep hearing that young black men for example, or just they've had it with Biden, they've had it with them. Are you picking up on that?
Is that? What's going on? What do you see?
Yeah? One of the things about teaching it an HBCU that I've said before, and Kentucky State University is a state U. It's a top two hundred American institution, but it's also historically black college. They are about one hundred and fifty HBCUs left in the United States, and obviously, I mean the law being what it is today, they're all pretty integrated we're about sixty percent black, forty percent in Kentucky Caucasian and Native. But the HBCUs are not as quote unquote woke in general as you might imagine. There are definitely some exceptions, but I think that part of that is that almost all of the institution at the leadership level is African American. So I mean, I've had executive jobs at Kentucky State. I've in our university on budsmen, for example, And if you're at the decision making level, I mean, it's a room full of you know, black people in suits. So the idea of sort of, you know, white man's responsible for this problem doesn't really have a lot of purchase. If you're trying to explain to the president what's going on with your budget something like that. You know about fifteen to twenty percent of black men vote Republican at least occasionally, So you're going to have that percentage of you know, Gop Beckers on the faculty, and it's just going to be something that's quietly accepted. It's not really a matter of discussion. So whenever I've looked at what wokeness is, the demographic group that stands out really is upper middle class white women don't really mean to single out anyone, make fun of anyone, But when you look at who's supports quote unquote political correctness or who supports limitations on speech, it's going to be that population much more than it's going to be black men, certainly, Asian Americans, anything like that. And in fact, there's a weird disconnect where minorities tend to be more socially conservative when it comes to quote unquote gay and trans writes anything like that, even than whites overall, but tend to vote very heavily for the Democratic Party. So there's a real question of how can we stop that, how can we shift that that? I mean, every consultant on the right side, as you know, has been working on for you know, decades without much success. But I mean, at any rate, the conversation on an HBCU campus is pretty broad because it's it's unchecked. There's nothing that you can't say, which I guess is a form of black privilege quote unquote with young black men. Yeah, you definitely see that there's a reaction to quote unquote PC there's a reaction to constant bashing of guys, which definitely targets black athletes and so on nearly as much as white guys. There's a reaction to just a lot of things, the job market, a mass migration, which we're starting to see in Kentucky. I mean, the population changes in a lot of places. And I also think there's just a lot of affection for Trump like most and I don't. I mean not that I'm not gonna love Trump by any means, but in general, fairly confident, fairly aggressive people don't like absurd self deprecation. People thought it was ridiculous when the leadership of the Democratic Party put on kent a cloth, for example, in Nelton the Congressional rotunda to praise George Floyd. So when this big guy from New York with the red tie on stands up and says, you know, I'm not racist, but what the hell do you have to lose? And why not vote for me? I plan on lowering taxes, brings out hip hop, MC's at events, goes to the South Bronx, and does shows. I mean, I think that from a lot of normal African American or Hispanic males in particular, you're gonna get a reaction of why not. I might try this. I'm not offended by this certainly. So you have a pretty broad range of perspectives, and yeah, some of those are pro GOP. There are also a lot of people that are Quoe unquote riding with Biden. So I mean you have a pretty pretty odd conversation.
Why doesn't Kamala Harris do better among particularly African American voters in your view?
Well, I mean Kamala Harris, and so again this is all relative. Like since the Great Society of the nineteen sixties, the Democrats have pretty consistently won seventy plus percent of Black So I mean when you say Kamala Harris has seen is kind of a joke candidate, I mean that might mean that she would win seventy five percent and you know hears some wit and some rhetorics versus winning ninety percent. But why is Kamala Harris considered a bad candidate? And I think this is true for people of all races. Part of it's just that she seems very forced, very unpersonable. I mean, like you seem like an enjoyable guy to talk to. I think I am. I don't get that impression from VP Harris. No, she has these these very forced moments as sort of this this stiff business woman who's forced to talk about how she loved taking the bus to school or why she's a big fan of NASA. That have actually gone viral on Bill Maher Gutfeld, and you get the impression that a lot of her public appearances are like that, the ceremonial bringing out of a bottle of hot sauce. She's also not a great politician one point nine percent. She has a background that really conflicts with her image now sort of civil rights leader, and she was a famously tough prosecutor who was locked up parents who were responsible for truant children. So I don't have a problem with that, but that doesn't hitch well to the black community. So just a lot of conflicts. I will say. Also, don't really know how to feel about this, but there's some question about whether she is African American. So Kamala Harris is Indian and Jamaican and from the lordly class on both sides. So this comes up sometimes with elite politicians from sort of the ivy class. Barack Obama was white and Kenyan, and again from the near nobility. So the question is when people start talking about the black experience. Do you have the black experience? Bro? I mean, and Barack Obama is from Indonesia in terms of childhood, upbringing and real' so I think people are aware of that. With Harris as well. Some people like her, many people don't. There are a lot of reasons for that.
Very interesting, professor. Let's talk about your book here in a second. Lies My liberal teacher told me. We'll get to this in just a minute. But first off, you know, if you had a million dollars in two thousand and nine today, it'd be worth less than seven hundred thousand. This is the effect of out of control government spending. This is what inflation does to your hard earned dollars that you've saved and put in banks. That's why savvy investors are doing something about it. They're diversifying and buying gold. For thousands of years, gold has withstowed war faminine economic downturns and has been used as a hedge against inflation. And the group that I trust to help you diverse find a gold is the Birch Gold Group. For over twenty years, Birch Gold has helped concerned Americans convert an existing ira or four oh one k and do attack sheltered IRA and physical gold. The best part it doesn't cost you a penny out of pocket. With an A plus rating from the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers, you can trust Birch Gold too. To learn more, text the word buck to nine eight nine eight nine eight. Get a free no obligation infokd on gold. Text buck buck to the number nine eight nine eight nine eight to protect your heart earned savings today.
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Wilfrid Riley, Professor Wilfrid Riley lies. My liberal teacher told me. What are some of the lies. Let's get into this.
There are a bunch of them. So the book. What the book does is look broadly at this claim that we hear constantly. There's a famous book called lies. My teacher told me. There's another famous book called sixteen nineteen, you know, a Black History of America, and the sort of implied subtitle is and the lies they're telling you. There's another book called Bury my Heart, It Wounded Me, a Native history of the United States. I might be off by a word or two in some of these titles. There's that old communist Howard zen's a people's history of the United States, and you probably get the point by now. But the idea of all of these is twofold. Like one is the idea that you're living in the worst culture every doweks like modern Western euro descent, white descent society. You know, we build the slave labor existed in this country. We genocided the Native American Indians, women were oppressed, We dropped bombs on our military opponents, buck, you know, just so on on and on down the line of these these things, these alleged unique atrocities. It's always our original sin, our unique sin that we should feel guilty about. That's point one, and point two is this idea that you are sort of an edgy rebel if you know that we're bad. So if you ever read high school or collegiate textbooks, they're these sort of panels on the side of the page that say things like your parents probably don't know too much about feminism, with an arrow linking you to kind of radical campus resources that can help you find out more. And this goes down even into the earlier grades where they're wildly inappropriate books on sex education that link to internet sites that can explain things to you in more detail, and so on down the line. So you are woke in the legitimate sense. You're awake if you know this. And when I started writing Lis, my liberal teacher told me my assumption was twofold. One was that the West is not a uniquely bad society, if anything, were a uniquely good society. And I think, as a mani historians have found out, and as generalist scholars like Thomas Saul have found in the past, that turns out to be true. Things like war for conquest existed literally everywhere until literally the past few decades of the human species. The right to conquest wasn't abolished until after we beat the Axis powers in nineteen forty six. Before that, if you beat someone in a fairly honest war, you took their country. Major nations like Italy and Ethiopia would simply fight for the ownership of lands that belonged to one of the two powers. That was just reality. So nothing unique about the West. Slavery one of the oldest human vices. Slave one of the first twenty human words. I demonstrate that in the book. It's a word in Egyptian hieroglyphic language. Samerian Kinea form language. But also two, which I think is more important, being aware of modern leftism, being aware of feminism or moderate socialism or something like that. Isn't some unique edgy thing. These are the mainstream ideas in society. The books that I'm negatively reviewing are the textbooks used in high school. The most popular curricula in the high schools are things like the sixteen nineteen curriculum, the Zin Projects, Zin Education curriculums going down the line. So what I'm saying is one, we're actually better than most other societies, but also two, we're teaching our children that we are worse. We're doing this at the mainstream level, and we're presenting this as some kind of revolutionary education designed to counter something else, designed to counter people's own parents, And so I ask why this is. I think it's an important thing to do, But in terms of the actual lives themselves, I mean, there are many of the things that we've mostly been told in the American upper middle class. One of them is the Rid Scare, with sort of a public panic that didn't catch any common We now have the classified Venona cables from Soviet Russia, so we know who the Russian spies were that existed during that James bond era, and I mean most of the people A Dalton, Trumbo, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, so on down the line that became these caused celebs on the left. Why are they being attacked for no reason? They actually were Russian agents.
We know they were spies. This is true, yes, yeah, yeah.
They have code names like wild Boar. I mean you can just literally go to Wikipedia or Britannica and google Venona, NA cables and see who the spies were and what their nicknames were. So that's one of them. Native Americans were not peaceful for me, someone who's over forty, who was educated in an urban but functional school, I mean that goes out saying the Comanche and so on were taught to us accurately as some of the greatest warriors in history up there at the Mongols. But today, I recently I had a phone interview with one of the guys from Skeptic Research Center, just talking about his projects getting in touch with new research on kind of the center right, and he told me that their latest survey revealed that seventy percent of young people think that Native American Indians were peaceful. They lived in complete harmony with nature. They didn't fight one another at least to the level of multiple deaths or extermination. And that's complete fantasy. I mean, the Aztecs built an entire cannibal kingdom down there in Mexico.
Yeah, I mean, you know Comanche, who you mentioned for the audience.
Everyone should know.
But the Comanche way of warfare was specifically this is not something that gets talked about. I've actually read extensively about the Comanche, specifically professor specifically to attack helpless women and children with greater numbers. If they did have to attack place where they were men, to basically engage in what they called murder raids that's what the Tejano or Texan early settlers call them. Where they would come in and they would kill everybody. They might grab a few children and rear them as slaves, and if there were any men who resisted, not only was there a lot of skot thing that went on, but actually they enjoy doing particularly excruciating torture to people and this was considered completely normal.
This was just the way that they feel the command.
Yeah, the commanche their basic strategy in war was to kill all the men, and except for a very few exceptionally brave men, this would usually involve extreme tortures. If you survive being shot or whatever, you'd be staked out alive over a red ant hills, right skinned and left out on the planes for wolves to eat. This kind of thing. So you kill all the men, you gang rape all the women, and then you if they're under twelve, you usually actually adopt the kids, so they become commanche warriors. The Commanchry were a mixed race group of these sort of wild riders, and they would paint themselves. Their face paint was extremely well done. Base was black, so they'd look like demons. They'd wear wolf masks on their head. I mean they were. As a young man you might find them almost an impressive culture. But they were deadly warriors and extremely brutal to other people. And I think as civilization has progressed, that negative image first became universally known and then became important to shelf. They couldn't have that as the Mexican's so interesting.
You know that the Mexicans, the Mexican settlers initially, and I guess this would be like seventeenth more seventeenth and in the eighteenth century. But the early Mexican settlers were trying, you know, they had these monks and priests who would go out and try to convert and the commandon wanted no part of any of this. Like this is the problem. Was the Spanish kept thinking, we'll bring them Christianity and we will civilize them. And they kept responding with we are going to stake your priests out on an hills and you know, steal all your stuff and like rape and murder anybody who gets in the way. And that went on for about one hundred and fifty years, and the Spanish basically couldn't expand their empire further than the Plains Indians. And of course they're the ones who gave them the horses in the first place, which is the great irony of this all. They weren't a horse people to the Spanish came along.
This was a problem actually historically, like most to the great warrior peoples like the Vikings, the Zulus, the Comanchi and the South, thought that Christianity was a religion for slaves, which is also a Western aristocratic critique of Christianity from Nietzsche and so on. But yeah, I mean, priests would come out to the commancher rear to the Viking country and say, well, I want to teach you about the religion of peace, where you can't fight and where women are equal to men, and the Comanchi would just say give us all your money and we might let you live, and the priests would say, no, we insist on teaching you the way, and the commands you would say, okay, we're going to burn you alive.
Yeah, and that was a very common thing for them.
Yeah. So, I mean, I suppose many of the priests became, you know, martyrs for the Most High God and all that. But I mean to the warriors societies, this was just a joke. These people believed in a faith that obviously couldn't protect them. The Zulus thought the same thing, you know. So eventually the Spanish and even better, the Americans who began the Texas Rangers and so on, decided that it would be it might be more effective to argue with the tools of this world. So they just sent big armies onto the commander ren killed them all. So that was what was in spiritual dispute.
People forget this.
The Texas Rangers, which now everyone thinks of Chuck Norris and like this contemporary like fly kick police officer role or something. It was to stop the depredations of the Comanche and the Apache and the Kiowa on the Texan Frontier which were ongoing and incredibly brutal and something that people don't you know, you mentioned Arry Mahart.
It wounded knee.
Yeah, that's if you just want to start at where basically the entirety of the Pioneer Frontier views natives as untrustworthy murderers, rapists and liars. Who Now it was that fair and all? Of course not and were there bad things that happened, went both ways, of course, but very.
My heart wounded kne.
It is like these like really nice native tribes were just hanging out and we kept making treaties and stealing their land and there was yeah, well, I mean the Commanche as soon as they got weapons from the French traders, you know, guns and metal weapons, they tried to kill as many of their competitor tribes as they could as fast as they couldn't take their land.
Like this is the way things were done.
That's exactly correct. Yeah, Like one of my critiques of Bury my heart. It wounded me is that it's just it's a recitation of four hundred years of Native military defeats, and I actually am a fan of the Native Americans. So reading through the book, one of my questions was where are the victories? Like you'd kind of wonder why the war took four hundred years if you were only aware of this perspective. Yeah, the idea is that sort of these peaceful eloy were just relaxing eating their grass stew and the Whites, who are apparently very slow walkers to judge from the pace of the conflict, came from nowhere and started massacring them. And no, the reality you hit on a very important point, which is that modern dorm room morality has only existed I think we both said for a couple of decades. So prior to nineteen fifty four would be a good year here as I understand, that was the year the last of the Geneva Conventions was ratified. So if you capture other fighting men, you can't rape them, brand them, torture them, march through the downtown of your city. That was the year we desegregated in the USA. So if you have warring ethnic groups. You can't keep them separate in different halves of the town divided by a stone fence. You know, women, you know, they could vote by that point, but marital rate was still legal. So I mean, maybe at that point we were starting to get close to modern ethics. But prior to that point, I mean, the traditions that had existed through all of human history were still there. One of them was razia, or border breaking. So if you lived next to another group of people who had some fighters amongst them, your young men would raid over the border and take their horses and cattle and sheep and young girls, and they would come back and do the same crap to you. And that's what the whites and natives did to each other all the time. The natives were worse about it. So when you say, well all the treaties were broken, a military scale raid breaks a treaty if you've ever taken a military science class or anything like that. So, I mean, when it wasn't just that the whites for no reason broke the treaties with the natives, the treaties between and say the Scots, Irish settlers and the Sioux or something like that, we're usually broken within a month of being signed by both sides, and after a hundred breakings of the treaty by both sides, eventually there'd be a big battle, and you know, the Pony soldiers would have to come in and settle them down.
This is again part the part of this that that never gets talked about is that you did there. And there's plenty of documentation of this. I keep speaking about it from the Commanchee side, but it's also like I said, Apache and Kiowa and others, where they would basically have to say, look, we're gonna try to tell meaning that the elders, you know, the chief, if you will, we'll say, we're gonna try to tell everybody we're gonna honor this. But some of my young guys are just gonna want some scalps, and they're gonna want to raid. They're gonna steal your stuff, and they're gonna rape some of your women, and I can't stop them. I mean, And that was actually what was happening over and and if you're living on the Texan frontier, you don't care that the Comanche command structure isn't refined enough that all you know is that a bunch of guys painted with the fat black paint on their face and the you know, animal head dress and everything else. They just killed everybody that you know and love. That's all you know, right, I mean, all you know is what happens. You don't really care about the failed negotiation. That so anyway, the America, you know, there's some great fahren Bach is the guy that I liked the most on this for anybody who's curious about some of them, more honest, and he doesn't you know, he doesn't hold back on what the white settlers did. All white settlers would go in, they'd kill every man, woman and child too. But this was always a it was always a tit for tat. It was always a back and forth, and usually, at least in the case of the Commancheria, you can point to the commanche starting what then resulted in a big counter strike. But anyway, the book is sounding really cool. By the way, I have to get a copy of it, and I want to ask you one more question about the book here in a second. But first off, Barcreek Arsenals our sponsor, and they're phenomenal. I'm talking about the best firearms you can get for the money anywhere made here in North Carolina.
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What's one more? Because this is fun? I think I think I'll go with number one. Actually, which is one of the big lies, is that true historical slavery was unique to white people in the West, and that's almost the verse of the truth. So this is one of those things where I actually looked at kind of the deep historical record. I didn't just want to talk about the Arabs or whatnot. I was interested in when slavery began, and slavery began basically when some historical king a lot of people say this was Sargon the Great, decided to do something with battle captives other than just sacrificing them to ball or eating them. So, I mean, those are the options back in these premachinery, you know, low human surplus societies. If you capture you might keep some of the women around as quote unquote wives. But if you defeat an army from the sea peoples or whatever, your three options are to let them go to come fight you again, massacre them in some ingenious way this is what the Aztecs did, or make them work, make them indentured servants or slaves or something that we now for good reason find immoral. But put them in another section of your dements and have them farm for a while, and maybe let their descendants go. So when people started doing that, you're talking about six seven thousand years ago. A slave is one of the first human words. I think I mentioned that earlier, but it's literally found in Samerian canea form. It's as old as the word for sheep, and it's actually interesting and a bit poignant because the word for slave just means defeated warrior. It's the word for man from the mountain cities, but with a couple additions to it, So man from the mountains who came down here and lost. And from that point forward, I mean, the Greeks had tons of slaves ten percent of the population. The Romans had more slaves than that, sixteen percent of the population. And Roman slavery was abusive in a way that black slavery in the New World or white slavery in Arabia did not come close to being. Obviously, slavery not good, but I mean the Romans would literally, if you lost a battle to them, take you and kill your wife and then throw you in an arena to fight elephants with a spear. I mean, there was a level of the use of other humans for entertainment that we haven't matched since, like the emperor would have a thousand dancing girls living in his palace. But from that you go through Arabic slavery. The Arabs gave the world their terms for both slave slav which means white slave. It comes from Southern European and black slave in fact abide which comes from African. That was the largest slave trade in history, perhaps six million whites, seventeen million blacks taken out of Southern Europe taken out of Africa. The Arabian trades largely forgotten. You've got the Atlantic slave trade dominated by white European certainly can't forget that twelve million people. But all this went on for all of time. If you beat someone in a war, or if someone else won a conflict like that, was willing to sell their former enemies and their families. Those people are just on the market. I think the thing that I note in this chapter that's been almost forgotten is that the unique contribution of the West was ending the global slave market. So I mean, in the USA, we fought a massive war, of the deadliest war in American history, six hundred and twenty thousand people were killed to end slavery in the country. But that was just a small part of this general Western, in fact Christian and driven movement against slavery. So the British Navy sailed around the world blockading slave trading ports, which is one of those great stories no one tells anymore. I mean, the Brits formed an enclosure of ships around the island of Zanzibars. At the time was a world power and just sort of threatened to declare war unless specifically the slaving portion of the operation there stopped, and eventually, after a great deal of negotiations and the risk of a serious conflict, it did. Brazil. By the eighteen eighties, Latin America had declared that they were going to accommodate the rest of the Americas and stop the slave markets. So I mean the Western world led the way on this, and where kind of the Western boot never really trod, slavery often still endures. I mean, if you're looking honestly at sort of chattel serfdom in Saudi Arabia or India, or if you're looking at what's just openly called slavery and Mauritania today, I mean there's still I believe the figure is fifty million slaves around the world right now. Again, most of them are probably Blacks or Eastern Europeans. So there's a weird disconnect between people talking about historical slavery in America and saying, well, four hundred years ago, there was a near race war in this country. Four hundred years ago. My people were oppressed and brutalized in this country, and the same people ignoring the fact that actual enslavement is still going on today. And my honest opinion on that would be that there's no money to be made from actual enslavement going on today. If you're looking for Ukrainian women broken into the porn industry or something like that, and you're trying to free these people, that's going to be something that's going to cost you money and time. Where dangerous people are going to be hunting you. You're not going to be able to squeeze cash and sympathy out of a sort of caring modern society. So we spend a lot of time on this kind of historiography looking back at the bad things that we in our society did. I guess one of the points of the book is, without excusing us, everybody did these bad things, some of which like fighting opponents in war or limiting immigration aren't even bad. That's point one point two. We stopped doing them, and they're still going on to a great extent today. They're just ignored by Westerners when they happen colonial ten points in a row. But like China is engaging in colonialism now. They're buying large chunks of land in Africa, in the Middle East and building things like national railroads that they control, that they manipulate and can sell back to those countries or take from those nations whenever they want to. But there's no gain in our contemporary politics of bringing up that sort of thing, so it's not brought up.
I'm sold, by the way. I'm getting your book lies, my liberal teacher told me.
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I like to buy it, by the way, because I like to support the author. So people send me free books all the time. But I'm not that you've ad That's all right, I'm actually going to buy a copy right now on Amazon. Lies, my liberal teacher told me. Wilfrid Riley. Fascinating stuff.
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Please let's talk again soon. Let's getch you on the radio show too. Thanks for being with me.
Yeah, love to come on. Thanks for having me.
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