Bongani Bingwa is in conversation with Helmoed Heitman, Military and defence expert provides an overview of the state of our air force with far too few aircrafts due to budget and personnel costs, the mission has grown, the funding hasn't and can be reversed though proper funding and time. Bongani Bingwa is in conversation with Mr Dakota Legoete, Chairperson of the portfolio committee for Defence and military veterans, emphasizing the need to increase our aircraft numbers.