Wake that ass up in the morning.

Wake that ass up in the morning.

Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's stej n v jess Hilari charlamage the guy.

Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's stej n v jess Hilari charlamage the guy.

We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.

We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.

In the building, Big motherfucking tank Tink is here.

In the building, Big motherfucking tank Tink is here.

Welcome Tink.

Welcome Tink.

Good morning.

Good morning.

How are you feeling.

How are you feeling.

I'm feeling good, y'all. I'm feeling refreshed.

I'm feeling good, y'all. I'm feeling refreshed.

Why are you dropping winters diaries fives in the summer for people to cry to all summer long.

Why are you dropping winters diaries fives in the summer for people to cry to all summer long.

They need supposed to be outside having a good time.

They need supposed to be outside having a good time.

Yes, yes, my ladies needed Listen, my ladies need it. You know when this diary can drop in the spring, the summer, the winter, you know when it comes. It's just that, it's just that type of music. It can drop anytime.

Yes, yes, my ladies needed Listen, my ladies need it. You know when this diary can drop in the spring, the summer, the winter, you know when it comes. It's just that, it's just that type of music. It can drop anytime.

Absolutely, How are you first.

Absolutely, How are you first.

To ball them?

To ball them?

I'm well, Charlae Magne, thank you for asking.

I'm well, Charlae Magne, thank you for asking.

Still on the road.

Still on the road.

Still on the Roadko, Yes, I'm excited, y'all. I'm on tour right now with Eko the Magic Our Tour, and that's been such a vibe, such a blessing to be opening for my favorite artists. Of course, of course R and B Girls, No Janey is the blueprint, but this is an Arena tour. So this is so big for me and my fans.

Still on the Roadko, Yes, I'm excited, y'all. I'm on tour right now with Eko the Magic Our Tour, and that's been such a vibe, such a blessing to be opening for my favorite artists. Of course, of course R and B Girls, No Janey is the blueprint, but this is an Arena tour. So this is so big for me and my fans.

It sells my daughter. She loved it.

It sells my daughter. She loved it.

She went to the Barclay show Yes Okay you Coila, Ray and Janney, and she said it was just dope. She said it was just like a huge women empowerment show. It was just it was just a vibe the whole night. She said, she loved it.

She went to the Barclay show Yes Okay you Coila, Ray and Janney, and she said it was just dope. She said it was just like a huge women empowerment show. It was just it was just a vibe the whole night. She said, she loved it.

Yes, I feel like all my ladies were getting our life every night on tour and we're releasing all that toxic energy. You know, we were just feeling the vibe.

Yes, I feel like all my ladies were getting our life every night on tour and we're releasing all that toxic energy. You know, we were just feeling the vibe.

I need you to break some nothing you just said is the blueprint for the R and B ladies. I never heard that.

I need you to break some nothing you just said is the blueprint for the R and B ladies. I never heard that.

Yes, I grew up listening to Jenne Ego back in her like mixtape days. This is before albums on YouTube or albums on Apple Music. Janet paved a lot of the way for a lot of girls.

Yes, I grew up listening to Jenne Ego back in her like mixtape days. This is before albums on YouTube or albums on Apple Music. Janet paved a lot of the way for a lot of girls.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah the sound content was it sound? I also think just the content, you know, the way she was approaching her music stuff she was talking about out. Her first record was called Wait No More. That kind of took me over. But yeah, Janee, honestly she does it for the girls.

Yeah the sound content was it sound? I also think just the content, you know, the way she was approaching her music stuff she was talking about out. Her first record was called Wait No More. That kind of took me over. But yeah, Janee, honestly she does it for the girls.

Wow.

Wow.

I didn't know Tick was on the show, because I would have called she was on the show.

I didn't know Tick was on the show, because I would have called she was on the show.

I would have called Tack for tickets because I needed my daughter wanted to go and I had to get tickets.

I would have called Tack for tickets because I needed my daughter wanted to go and I had to get tickets.

I was like, damn, I don't know anybody on the show.

I was like, damn, I don't know anybody on the show.

But I heard the show was I heard the show was amazing. Now we got to talk about you knew mixtape whin it's Diary five.

But I heard the show was I heard the show was amazing. Now we got to talk about you knew mixtape whin it's Diary five.

I don't even like to call when the Diary mixtapes. He used to be like albums. The used to be like soundtracks to these young ladies lives.

I don't even like to call when the Diary mixtapes. He used to be like albums. The used to be like soundtracks to these young ladies lives.

There's a lot of pain in that.

There's a lot of pain in that.

Yes, this is the first album of Winn's Diary. It started as a mixtape back in twenty twelve, so you can imagine just how long it's been since I've released the Winnes's Diary. My last one was in twenty sixteen. So this is the fifth edition of Winnes's Diary. The girls did know me from treat me.

Yes, this is the first album of Winn's Diary. It started as a mixtape back in twenty twelve, so you can imagine just how long it's been since I've released the Winnes's Diary. My last one was in twenty sixteen. So this is the fifth edition of Winnes's Diary. The girls did know me from treat me.

Like somebody somebody that was one of Diary one, the.

Like somebody somebody that was one of Diary one, the.

Original authentic days, like I say, mixtape days. I feel like that's why my fan base really grew. So it's just very special to my day one.

Original authentic days, like I say, mixtape days. I feel like that's why my fan base really grew. So it's just very special to my day one.

Are you still going through the pain now because we heard a lot of pain in what fifteen sixteen songs you put out there.

Are you still going through the pain now because we heard a lot of pain in what fifteen sixteen songs you put out there.

Absolutely, and that's what it is. It's a diary, y'all. So this album is much different than the others. There's a lot of pain. There's a lot of story telling and honesty, things that I don't like to talk about all the time, and that's what makes it special. It's just raw and uncut. But I'm in a much better space. I wanted to wait to drop this album till now, till I.

Absolutely, and that's what it is. It's a diary, y'all. So this album is much different than the others. There's a lot of pain. There's a lot of story telling and honesty, things that I don't like to talk about all the time, and that's what makes it special. It's just raw and uncut. But I'm in a much better space. I wanted to wait to drop this album till now, till I.

Could really until you got in that space.

Could really until you got in that space.

Exactly, y'all. Till I was in that space, had to do some healing, had to do some like I say, refreshing of myself. And I feel so much better now that I'm able to drop it in a space where I'm not just angry and upset. It's more so like reflecting and I'm teaching and I'm trying to tell my girls what to do and not to do.

Exactly, y'all. Till I was in that space, had to do some healing, had to do some like I say, refreshing of myself. And I feel so much better now that I'm able to drop it in a space where I'm not just angry and upset. It's more so like reflecting and I'm teaching and I'm trying to tell my girls what to do and not to do.

And that was it a bunch of relationships or just one relationship? Because you said it since twenty sixteen? Was it a bunch of messed up relationships?

And that was it a bunch of relationships or just one relationship? Because you said it since twenty sixteen? Was it a bunch of messed up relationships?

Yeah? I pulled from everything, y'all. I poured from old relationships, new relationships, things I'm going through and sitting in at the moment. But this album, honestly was I feel like just me revealing what happened to me in the past year. So a lot of a lot of the stories are fresh, and that's why it's just it's just so it's just so triggering, and I think, you know, we need that in R and B. I'm not trying to sugar coat anything.

Yeah? I pulled from everything, y'all. I poured from old relationships, new relationships, things I'm going through and sitting in at the moment. But this album, honestly was I feel like just me revealing what happened to me in the past year. So a lot of a lot of the stories are fresh, and that's why it's just it's just so it's just so triggering, and I think, you know, we need that in R and B. I'm not trying to sugar coat anything.

Oh.

Oh.

I put you in the same boat tank as Mary J. Blige and Keisha.

I put you in the same boat tank as Mary J. Blige and Keisha.

Cole and that's movie.

Cole and that's movie.

Thank you trying to make Sadly you make the best music that you're going.

Thank you trying to make Sadly you make the best music that you're going.

Through Sadly is great.

Through Sadly is great.

That's crazy crazy, it's sad that when you heard you make some powerful music.

That's crazy crazy, it's sad that when you heard you make some powerful music.

Absolutely, the best music to me comes from my pain and I appreciate that that market for me. I think the girls we relate to it, you know what I mean. I'm not the artist that's trying to be bubblegum. And you know, I'm not a pop artist. I come from Chicago, the streets of Chicago.

Absolutely, the best music to me comes from my pain and I appreciate that that market for me. I think the girls we relate to it, you know what I mean. I'm not the artist that's trying to be bubblegum. And you know, I'm not a pop artist. I come from Chicago, the streets of Chicago.

Quean a Chicago, do you herb. We'll just called you, thank you.

Quean a Chicago, do you herb. We'll just called you, thank you.

My brother. Yeah, my perspective is different, and that's why this album important, y'all. You know, I know it's girls in the trenches that's going through the same things that I've dealt with, and every day ain't sunny. So when this diary is for my real.

My brother. Yeah, my perspective is different, and that's why this album important, y'all. You know, I know it's girls in the trenches that's going through the same things that I've dealt with, and every day ain't sunny. So when this diary is for my real.

Ones, I need to know what the studio session for Songs about You was like, with you and somewher together drunk off the killer, venting about dudes, like what was that about?

Ones, I need to know what the studio session for Songs about You was like, with you and somewher together drunk off the killer, venting about dudes, like what was that about?

You know what? I wish I wish we were. I actually sent her a couple of songs. Summer has a crazy schedule. I love my girl, Summer Walker. She is a mom, you know what I mean. She's also an R and B artist, working, putting in work. So a lot of times artists we have to send records through the email and we get on the phone and chop it up. So I recorded that record. I had two records. I sent her Stressing and songs about You. She really liked Songs about You, and like I said, say, she sent it back. It was a very easy process for Summer. She's a girl's girl, so I just appreciate her. A lot of people try to pin us, you know, they try to compare us a lot our music and our styles. So it was really really dope to come together.

You know what? I wish I wish we were. I actually sent her a couple of songs. Summer has a crazy schedule. I love my girl, Summer Walker. She is a mom, you know what I mean. She's also an R and B artist, working, putting in work. So a lot of times artists we have to send records through the email and we get on the phone and chop it up. So I recorded that record. I had two records. I sent her Stressing and songs about You. She really liked Songs about You, and like I said, say, she sent it back. It was a very easy process for Summer. She's a girl's girl, so I just appreciate her. A lot of people try to pin us, you know, they try to compare us a lot our music and our styles. So it was really really dope to come together.

So what was the what was the inspiration for that song?

So what was the what was the inspiration for that song?

Was it.

Was it.

Argument with somebody? Were you mad? Like did you go straight to the studio? Did you let it simmer for a minute?

Argument with somebody? Were you mad? Like did you go straight to the studio? Did you let it simmer for a minute?

Oh yeah, it has the summer you know. The song is really about when you're in the club or wherever you are, and you get in your bag, you have a drink and you start thinking about one person and it's always you know, sometimes it's the toxic one, but it's always one person you call. And that's why that song really hits home because it's summertime, we outside, our having our vibes, and it's always one person you want to go home with, you know what I mean?

Oh yeah, it has the summer you know. The song is really about when you're in the club or wherever you are, and you get in your bag, you have a drink and you start thinking about one person and it's always you know, sometimes it's the toxic one, but it's always one person you call. And that's why that song really hits home because it's summertime, we outside, our having our vibes, and it's always one person you want to go home with, you know what I mean?

Tell me what was the her record about? Like what I want to know? What huh inspired that record?

Tell me what was the her record about? Like what I want to know? What huh inspired that record?

What did you say? What did you.

What did you say? What did you.

Say to the brother that he goes hell?

Say to the brother that he goes hell?

No? Really triggering for me, it's not laughing too hard, But my ladies understand, you know these day and age men are quick too, you know.

No? Really triggering for me, it's not laughing too hard, But my ladies understand, you know these day and age men are quick too, you know.

Huh what was the handy? Did you ask Hi where he was? Or let me see your friend?

Huh what was the handy? Did you ask Hi where he was? Or let me see your friend?

You can hear you can get here, you know. I like to I like to be real in my music. That's that's what does it for me when it's honest and I was going through a period of time I'm asking questions, what's going on, what we're doing? Where you with it? And yeah playing this is hunh damn. So yeah, that day is home for a lot of women relationships. I feel like me and you know, it's very hard for y'all to be honest out here. So huh is a lot of times the response.

You can hear you can get here, you know. I like to I like to be real in my music. That's that's what does it for me when it's honest and I was going through a period of time I'm asking questions, what's going on, what we're doing? Where you with it? And yeah playing this is hunh damn. So yeah, that day is home for a lot of women relationships. I feel like me and you know, it's very hard for y'all to be honest out here. So huh is a lot of times the response.

When you think about Hans sometimes I really might not have heard you.

When you think about Hans sometimes I really might not have heard you.

That's a lie.

That's a lie.

That's a lie.

That's a lie.

Second to think about what your aunts are gonna be. So that home gives you that little second.

Second to think about what your aunts are gonna be. So that home gives you that little second.

Please exactly envy, That's that's what it is.

Please exactly envy, That's that's what it is.

You you who changed black man.

You you who changed black man.

Change were supposed to be teaching.

Change were supposed to be teaching.

We done did that in our twenties.

We done did that in our twenties.

He's right, a lot of times you're thinking about what you want to say. Yeah, hurt me, so let me ask.

He's right, a lot of times you're thinking about what you want to say. Yeah, hurt me, so let me ask.

So I got to ask. So when it comes to all us, how what kind of man is tink looking for?

So I got to ask. So when it comes to all us, how what kind of man is tink looking for?

Right?

Right?

Because you get sexy in here and you tell about you tell you know what you what you want a man to do to you sexually, But you also talk about all these toxic relationship it seems like you're looking for the toxic.

Because you get sexy in here and you tell about you tell you know what you what you want a man to do to you sexually, But you also talk about all these toxic relationship it seems like you're looking for the toxic.

No. Never, we're running from the toxic this year, y'all. For me, it's it's really about being honest and true. I think in twenty twenty four, man are such liars. Come on, man, man are so quick to lie. So uh, it's then boiled down to being honest. You know. I like man and securing himself knows what he wants, isn't afraid to vocalize that in the beginning. And for me, I'm from Chicago. I like a man that has, uh, you know, just a strong demeanor. I love a stand up guy and like I say, y'all will be honest. A lot of girls just on somebody that's gonna be real to them and not not play with their feelings.

No. Never, we're running from the toxic this year, y'all. For me, it's it's really about being honest and true. I think in twenty twenty four, man are such liars. Come on, man, man are so quick to lie. So uh, it's then boiled down to being honest. You know. I like man and securing himself knows what he wants, isn't afraid to vocalize that in the beginning. And for me, I'm from Chicago. I like a man that has, uh, you know, just a strong demeanor. I love a stand up guy and like I say, y'all will be honest. A lot of girls just on somebody that's gonna be real to them and not not play with their feelings.

I feel like you've been searching for love for a long time. When I think about Whening Diary one wait.

I feel like you've been searching for love for a long time. When I think about Whening Diary one wait.

A minute, a minute.

A minute, a minute.

It feels like the whole series is human.

It feels like the whole series is human.

King all my life. I think I need to say that too. It's so hard to find love when you're really passionate in your career. So it may seem like I'm looking for love, but Honestly, I'm just so grounded in my music. I don't have time to date, and I wish I did, so I just want to say that, like I'm not looking for anything, but but you are. I'm a lover, but I'm so focused on making it and succeeding. You know. So a lot of times love just as to the wayside for me, and people don't know that. Like my music is very it can be very sappy sometimes, but in real life, emotion does not run me.

King all my life. I think I need to say that too. It's so hard to find love when you're really passionate in your career. So it may seem like I'm looking for love, but Honestly, I'm just so grounded in my music. I don't have time to date, and I wish I did, so I just want to say that, like I'm not looking for anything, but but you are. I'm a lover, but I'm so focused on making it and succeeding. You know. So a lot of times love just as to the wayside for me, and people don't know that. Like my music is very it can be very sappy sometimes, but in real life, emotion does not run me.

I run my business, thinks say I'm a whole thug.

I run my business, thinks say I'm a whole thug.

Yeah, at times I have to be yeah, yeah, you know how this industry can be. I have a tough skin on me, So it may seem like that, like I'm yearning for love, but a lot of times, y'all, I am so focused on my next bag.

Yeah, at times I have to be yeah, yeah, you know how this industry can be. I have a tough skin on me, So it may seem like that, like I'm yearning for love, but a lot of times, y'all, I am so focused on my next bag.

So why is that such a recurring theme? And just the yearning for love throughout the mistakes?

So why is that such a recurring theme? And just the yearning for love throughout the mistakes?

And now I feel like I know what women want to hear. And in the past my music has touched a lot of souls, so I got a cater to that. You know, I can't leave my women hanging. My music isn't about flashing money and jewelry and chains. It's about what they need, and I make sure that I remember that when I'm writing now with relationships?

And now I feel like I know what women want to hear. And in the past my music has touched a lot of souls, so I got a cater to that. You know, I can't leave my women hanging. My music isn't about flashing money and jewelry and chains. It's about what they need, and I make sure that I remember that when I'm writing now with relationships?

Is it both of you, guys, because it takes two to tago, right? Is it just?

Is it both of you, guys, because it takes two to tago, right? Is it just?

Are you kind of toxic too? Are you part of the problem?

Are you kind of toxic too? Are you part of the problem?

Well, I think in general everybody is capable of being toxic. We have days. But I'm I'm such a person that gives grace and I'm trying to do the right thing. I'm a very positive person. I'm peaceful, you know what I mean. Like I love to I love cood vibrations. So I may have a day. I think we all have our days. We all have a moment, but that is not how I answer a relationship, or that's not how I move in general. You know, for me, I want peace, y'all. I've been through so much in this industry, and if you know my story, you know I've just been through a lot of hardships. So absolutely not. I want somebody to bring me some peace. I have enough to struggle and deal with in life.

Well, I think in general everybody is capable of being toxic. We have days. But I'm I'm such a person that gives grace and I'm trying to do the right thing. I'm a very positive person. I'm peaceful, you know what I mean. Like I love to I love cood vibrations. So I may have a day. I think we all have our days. We all have a moment, but that is not how I answer a relationship, or that's not how I move in general. You know, for me, I want peace, y'all. I've been through so much in this industry, and if you know my story, you know I've just been through a lot of hardships. So absolutely not. I want somebody to bring me some peace. I have enough to struggle and deal with in life.

So I like the record Insane because it shows the contrast between like physical and emotional detachment after a breakup and you say I'm in love with the nigga that won't change. Can't promise that I'm all because because if he if he come calling, I'm already on my way. And it's like insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Why did it feels? Why was it necessary for you to talk about that aspect of it?

So I like the record Insane because it shows the contrast between like physical and emotional detachment after a breakup and you say I'm in love with the nigga that won't change. Can't promise that I'm all because because if he if he come calling, I'm already on my way. And it's like insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Why did it feels? Why was it necessary for you to talk about that aspect of it?

To me, I was just giving people both perspectives, you know what I mean? Like, like I say, it's a diary, so I have to be honest with myself and a lot of a lot of these songs are stories, and there was a point in time where I was stuck to a person, and I think a lot of women have been there, especially when we're young, you know what I mean. We're comfortable, it feels good at the moment and you don't realize until you step back, like, oh, I was really in something something I shouldn't have been in. So that was me reflecting, you know what I mean. And I think, honestly, that's probably the best song that people really love on the album because it's just honesty.

To me, I was just giving people both perspectives, you know what I mean? Like, like I say, it's a diary, so I have to be honest with myself and a lot of a lot of these songs are stories, and there was a point in time where I was stuck to a person, and I think a lot of women have been there, especially when we're young, you know what I mean. We're comfortable, it feels good at the moment and you don't realize until you step back, like, oh, I was really in something something I shouldn't have been in. So that was me reflecting, you know what I mean. And I think, honestly, that's probably the best song that people really love on the album because it's just honesty.

You know, do you think guys be intentionally trying to fuck women over or do you think that listen, it's guys. I might have the best intentions. I really like this woman, but then you know, sometimes I just make irrational decisions.

You know, do you think guys be intentionally trying to fuck women over or do you think that listen, it's guys. I might have the best intentions. I really like this woman, but then you know, sometimes I just make irrational decisions.

Sorry you can say poor choice.

Sorry you can say poor choice.

Poor choices, you know, because like I'm not trying to break your heart.

Poor choices, you know, because like I'm not trying to break your heart.

I think it's a bit of both. I think at a certain age, you know what you're doing. You know, at a certain point in your life. You know, we're not in high school or grammar school, So everything is a choice, you know what I mean. And for me in twenty twenty four, it's just a toxic era, you know what I'm saying, a lot of it has to do with our influences and what we're listening to, what we're seeing on Instagram, and what we think is flat and cool to do. A lot of men, you know, they'll hurt a woman just because that's that's what the guys is doing, or that's really you know what I'm saying. They feeding off of what everybody else is on. So it's a choice. It's a choice. I don't think, you know, like I said, guys know what they're doing.

I think it's a bit of both. I think at a certain age, you know what you're doing. You know, at a certain point in your life. You know, we're not in high school or grammar school, So everything is a choice, you know what I mean. And for me in twenty twenty four, it's just a toxic era, you know what I'm saying, a lot of it has to do with our influences and what we're listening to, what we're seeing on Instagram, and what we think is flat and cool to do. A lot of men, you know, they'll hurt a woman just because that's that's what the guys is doing, or that's really you know what I'm saying. They feeding off of what everybody else is on. So it's a choice. It's a choice. I don't think, you know, like I said, guys know what they're doing.

I agree with that whole heartedly, because you know, I think that sometimes these dudes treat their homeboys better than they treat their girls. Like the lady that you laying down with every night, Like you'll be more loyal to your dudes. You don't want to lie to your dudes. You don't want to do your dude dirty, but you don't got no problem doing that to me.

I agree with that whole heartedly, because you know, I think that sometimes these dudes treat their homeboys better than they treat their girls. Like the lady that you laying down with every night, Like you'll be more loyal to your dudes. You don't want to lie to your dudes. You don't want to do your dude dirty, but you don't got no problem doing that to me.

And know how to be loyal, and that is that's why I say it's a choice. Men know how to be loyal. They loyal to their members, They loyal to they guys, they're loyal to they dog. Hello, y'all know how to be loyal and y'all know how to stick to one person. So hey, it's a choice.

And know how to be loyal, and that is that's why I say it's a choice. Men know how to be loyal. They loyal to their members, They loyal to they guys, they're loyal to they dog. Hello, y'all know how to be loyal and y'all know how to stick to one person. So hey, it's a choice.

I agree.

I agree.

Do you think it's also hard dating somebody or being with somebody in the industry?

Do you think it's also hard dating somebody or being with somebody in the industry?

Oh?

Oh?

Yes, because that's it's it's a total difference. It's not it's not an average life. It's it's more of a difficult life. And if you don't understand that, your insecurities take over.

Yes, because that's it's it's a total difference. It's not it's not an average life. It's it's more of a difficult life. And if you don't understand that, your insecurities take over.

That has a lot to do with on both sides.

That has a lot to do with on both sides.

It's a lot harder. Like you say, you have to be secure, and it's so much temptation in this industry. You know, guys, guys that are in the industry, they have a lot, a lot more to offer, So it's more women, and it's more DM I'm saying. It's more like I say, distractions and everybody is accessible in the industry. So absolutely it's ten times hotter. But that's why I say I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind dating a regular guy.

It's a lot harder. Like you say, you have to be secure, and it's so much temptation in this industry. You know, guys, guys that are in the industry, they have a lot, a lot more to offer, So it's more women, and it's more DM I'm saying. It's more like I say, distractions and everybody is accessible in the industry. So absolutely it's ten times hotter. But that's why I say I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind dating a regular guy.

You would date a nice, hard working.

You would date a nice, hard working.

The hardworking, honest man.

The hardworking, honest man.

Okay, would you date a guy in the industry?

Okay, would you date a guy in the industry?

Again, I'm not against it, but I'm open to everything I think. I think the industry, like I said, it plays a part. Uh, the industry just plays a part, like the distractions. So I would totally date honest working man.

Again, I'm not against it, but I'm open to everything I think. I think the industry, like I said, it plays a part. Uh, the industry just plays a part, like the distractions. So I would totally date honest working man.

Okay. Now let's get to it. Which one of these songs about hit Maker? Is it huh?

Okay. Now let's get to it. Which one of these songs about hit Maker? Is it huh?

Is it stressing? Is it blessed Me? Don't Scratch Me? Is it lows and highs?

Is it stressing? Is it blessed Me? Don't Scratch Me? Is it lows and highs?

Which hit?

Which hit?

Is it hit and lick?

Is it hit and lick?

Does it make it make sense?

Does it make it make sense?

Which the main listen? I feel like the entire album is could relate to him or say any man, you know what I mean. I purposely waited to drop this so that it wasn't fourteen songs about one person. But in this situation, you know, if you know our history, we went through a lot of turmoil, so there's a bit of him and a lot of these a lot of these records, and he knows that we worked on an album together.

Which the main listen? I feel like the entire album is could relate to him or say any man, you know what I mean. I purposely waited to drop this so that it wasn't fourteen songs about one person. But in this situation, you know, if you know our history, we went through a lot of turmoil, so there's a bit of him and a lot of these a lot of these records, and he knows that we worked on an album together.

How was that?

How was that?

And that process was different for me. It took a lot of maturity for me to get in that booth and for us to come to agreement on these songs. We had hard days where he had to walk out, and that's just what it is. I couldn't. I couldn't.

And that process was different for me. It took a lot of maturity for me to get in that booth and for us to come to agreement on these songs. We had hard days where he had to walk out, and that's just what it is. I couldn't. I couldn't.

Did y'all have to have a conversation before, because I mean, y'all were together, Like you said, it was a toxic at times, but y'all made great music with each other. Most people would have been like, fat, I ain't working with him, you know. Most women probably would have been like, I can't see him again. But y'all were able to How was that conversation? And who put that together? Where y'all said, you know, let's squash this out and do this together.

Did y'all have to have a conversation before, because I mean, y'all were together, Like you said, it was a toxic at times, but y'all made great music with each other. Most people would have been like, fat, I ain't working with him, you know. Most women probably would have been like, I can't see him again. But y'all were able to How was that conversation? And who put that together? Where y'all said, you know, let's squash this out and do this together.

Yeah, I had to take take the emotion out of it. And we were already in a contract, so there were obligations. And that's what I think the world doesn't know. You know, we already had ties and things were already in motion. So, like I say, it took a lot of maturity to say, Hey, I'm gonna go in this booth, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do my best today. You know what I'm saying. Whatever I can give, If it's ten, that's the best I can give. And you know that. That's also why it did take some time, because I needed time away to get my mind together. I can't look at you today. I can't you know, I can't be around you listening to what you want to say right now. So I give God a lot of credit, y'all. Like it took a lot for me to put this album out.

Yeah, I had to take take the emotion out of it. And we were already in a contract, so there were obligations. And that's what I think the world doesn't know. You know, we already had ties and things were already in motion. So, like I say, it took a lot of maturity to say, Hey, I'm gonna go in this booth, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do my best today. You know what I'm saying. Whatever I can give, If it's ten, that's the best I can give. And you know that. That's also why it did take some time, because I needed time away to get my mind together. I can't look at you today. I can't you know, I can't be around you listening to what you want to say right now. So I give God a lot of credit, y'all. Like it took a lot for me to put this album out.

When did that happen? When did you make that.

When did that happen? When did you make that.

Call to be like, look, let's put the bullshit to the side and you f me, let's just make this album.

Call to be like, look, let's put the bullshit to the side and you f me, let's just make this album.

How did that happen? And what was that call?

How did that happen? And what was that call?

Like?

Like?

Did he call you? Did you call him? Was it management? Was it the label?

Did he call you? Did you call him? Was it management? Was it the label?

Yeah, he actually reached out to me, and it took for to sit down and really have a just a long conversation. I'm talking hours of talking, and it took maturity, you know, like most people would have through the twel I can't I'm not speaking to you again. But I had to think about my career. I had to think about. Like I said, I was in a contract already, so I had to put on put on my my poker face and get in the field and you know, do what wasn't popular at the time. It wasn't cool to say, Hey, I'm going to the studio with hit Maker today. So you know, I took a lot of I took a lot of I had a lot of people dropping opinions in my ear, and I had to kind of just tunnel vision and focus on the end goal. I want my album out. I want to have an album that feels elevated. And for that reason, I went ahead and we worked.

Yeah, he actually reached out to me, and it took for to sit down and really have a just a long conversation. I'm talking hours of talking, and it took maturity, you know, like most people would have through the twel I can't I'm not speaking to you again. But I had to think about my career. I had to think about. Like I said, I was in a contract already, so I had to put on put on my my poker face and get in the field and you know, do what wasn't popular at the time. It wasn't cool to say, Hey, I'm going to the studio with hit Maker today. So you know, I took a lot of I took a lot of I had a lot of people dropping opinions in my ear, and I had to kind of just tunnel vision and focus on the end goal. I want my album out. I want to have an album that feels elevated. And for that reason, I went ahead and we worked.

Is it true that he asked you for two million dollars because he was mad that you wanted to go to a project independently.

Is it true that he asked you for two million dollars because he was mad that you wanted to go to a project independently.

Well, I will say that we did have a contract in place. The details of the contract are really personal, and that's that's where I was at faut at. You know, sometimes it's best to just lay low about details and things like that. But hit Maker was paid, and I think that's fair to say he knows it. And that's the reason I went forward. Because if I'm putting my money and I'm investing into something I need all of mine in return.

Well, I will say that we did have a contract in place. The details of the contract are really personal, and that's that's where I was at faut at. You know, sometimes it's best to just lay low about details and things like that. But hit Maker was paid, and I think that's fair to say he knows it. And that's the reason I went forward. Because if I'm putting my money and I'm investing into something I need all of mine in return.

I was gonna ask I was doing the album because you had a lot of sexual songs.

I was gonna ask I was doing the album because you had a lot of sexual songs.

Right, Oh yeah, there's a lot.

Right, Oh yeah, there's a lot.

Of songs that very intimate, very sexy gives you put you in that diary. Did y'all get to a point where it rekindled anything after going through all that at all?

Of songs that very intimate, very sexy gives you put you in that diary. Did y'all get to a point where it rekindled anything after going through all that at all?

No, I haven't been in that space for hit Maker for a long time. And that's the that's the gag that everybody doesn't know. Like I've been so focused on the music, I don't have time to really even entertain him or or vice versa. You know, I think it's best that we can keep things business and the pleasure is what I think made left because.

No, I haven't been in that space for hit Maker for a long time. And that's the that's the gag that everybody doesn't know. Like I've been so focused on the music, I don't have time to really even entertain him or or vice versa. You know, I think it's best that we can keep things business and the pleasure is what I think made left because.

It's always that I want that old thing back on both sides.

It's always that I want that old thing back on both sides.

Absolutely, But I had to learn. That was a learning lesson and I think for me that's the biggest gift. Like every album, every year, I'm getting smarter, like, hey, I know my next venture, I know what to look out for. I know when to say no or I know when to hold back. So I needed to go through that. You know, I want other women to watch me and and and learn from my mistakes, you know, I'm here to be a lesson and a blessing, So I don't have any regrets. What happened happened. I'm stronger, I'm smarter. I feel like now I know just how to play.

Absolutely, But I had to learn. That was a learning lesson and I think for me that's the biggest gift. Like every album, every year, I'm getting smarter, like, hey, I know my next venture, I know what to look out for. I know when to say no or I know when to hold back. So I needed to go through that. You know, I want other women to watch me and and and learn from my mistakes, you know, I'm here to be a lesson and a blessing, So I don't have any regrets. What happened happened. I'm stronger, I'm smarter. I feel like now I know just how to play.

Would you put your your next relationship on the ground like like this, because you guys.

Would you put your your next relationship on the ground like like this, because you guys.

Thank you would just.

Thank you would just.

Return when you get this nice ups guy right when you're not gonna put that on the.

Return when you get this nice ups guy right when you're not gonna put that on the.

Nota post his arm, the back of his head or you know. I think privacy is so good. Privacy helps so much, y'all. When the world knows it's it's it's an extra weight. So to my ladies, y'all, please save it for you, keep it, keep it private. It's it's so much peace in privacy.

Nota post his arm, the back of his head or you know. I think privacy is so good. Privacy helps so much, y'all. When the world knows it's it's it's an extra weight. So to my ladies, y'all, please save it for you, keep it, keep it private. It's it's so much peace in privacy.

So when you said on Instagram that you were fighting so hard to release this album, was that the fight?

So when you said on Instagram that you were fighting so hard to release this album, was that the fight?

Was that the only.

Was that the only.

Absolutely? Uh, just the just the battle with with you know, people on the outside, you know what I'm saying, giving me their advice and you shouldn't be working with him, or you know what I'm saying, just scrap the album start over. I had a lot of dark thoughts about the album that sometimes I had to you know, I second guessed it and hey, y'all, should we just go another route or you know? That's what I mean when I say I had to fight. I had to push through those you know, those moments where you're you're not sure, and like I say, I really have to stand tall and just be strong and confident, even though the world you might have had a different feeling at the time, I had to push through.

Absolutely? Uh, just the just the battle with with you know, people on the outside, you know what I'm saying, giving me their advice and you shouldn't be working with him, or you know what I'm saying, just scrap the album start over. I had a lot of dark thoughts about the album that sometimes I had to you know, I second guessed it and hey, y'all, should we just go another route or you know? That's what I mean when I say I had to fight. I had to push through those you know, those moments where you're you're not sure, and like I say, I really have to stand tall and just be strong and confident, even though the world you might have had a different feeling at the time, I had to push through.

That was I don't want to say embarrassing, but what was the thing that came out that you weren't most proud of?

That was I don't want to say embarrassing, but what was the thing that came out that you weren't most proud of?

I remember they said you put hands on him.

I remember they said you put hands on him.

Of course, that honestly was the peak for me. If anybody knows me, y'all know, I'm not even the internet type of person. I go live maybe twice a year, so to be live doing that it did strike a nerve in me because who I am as a person is so much better than that. And I'm very private, so it came as a shock. But I'm a real woman and I want people to know that life is.

Of course, that honestly was the peak for me. If anybody knows me, y'all know, I'm not even the internet type of person. I go live maybe twice a year, so to be live doing that it did strike a nerve in me because who I am as a person is so much better than that. And I'm very private, so it came as a shock. But I'm a real woman and I want people to know that life is.

Full of ups and downs, lows and high.

Full of ups and downs, lows and high.

Lows and highs. Thank you, Charla Mane, thank you. That was perfect. But yeah, life is full of loads and highs, and I think it gave people just an insight of, you know, my reality. I'm not just a perfect person. I never want to come across like I'm perfect. So I don't regret it. But that was like a peak moment that I look back and I say, I'm gonna learn from that and do better.

Lows and highs. Thank you, Charla Mane, thank you. That was perfect. But yeah, life is full of loads and highs, and I think it gave people just an insight of, you know, my reality. I'm not just a perfect person. I never want to come across like I'm perfect. So I don't regret it. But that was like a peak moment that I look back and I say, I'm gonna learn from that and do better.

Last question about that, I just before you move on the time of y'all, I think you were out the country and ran into each other. Were y'all recording at that time, or y'all would just just happened to just it just you're out the country, just happened to see each other, just like happenstance.

Last question about that, I just before you move on the time of y'all, I think you were out the country and ran into each other. Were y'all recording at that time, or y'all would just just happened to just it just you're out the country, just happened to see each other, just like happenstance.

No, we just happened to see each other. I was there for my friend's birthday, so I had no idea he was in the same country as me. We had no clue, and we it was just ironic.

No, we just happened to see each other. I was there for my friend's birthday, so I had no idea he was in the same country as me. We had no clue, and we it was just ironic.

Did you look at that for a moment and be like, damn, this is divine. Maybe it's meant to be for a second, let's pit a second.

Did you look at that for a moment and be like, damn, this is divine. Maybe it's meant to be for a second, let's pit a second.

I mean, I guess so, I mean it had to happen for me to learn, So maybe God was trying to pivot me. So, like I said, it might have been divine timing. So that I could see what was really happening in the streets.

I mean, I guess so, I mean it had to happen for me to learn, So maybe God was trying to pivot me. So, like I said, it might have been divine timing. So that I could see what was really happening in the streets.

Well, y'all still talking at that time, y'all still trying to work it out, and he just happy with another girl.

Well, y'all still talking at that time, y'all still trying to work it out, and he just happy with another girl.

Enough. I can see her visibly upset.

Enough. I can see her visibly upset.

Yeah, it's triggering, y'all. Like love it hard. I love hard, and people, you know, when you when you're really invested in somebody, you expect them to love the way that you love them. So it's it's a triggering situation. And I'm just glad that I'm in this space now. Like I say, y'all, I've grown so much. It's it's really I want to put it behind me. And it's sad, like when you attach yourself to somebody, everything comes back up. Every every interview is going to be a question. So I'm trying to move forward in the most peaceful way. I really do wish him the best. I hope he is, you know, I hope he's well. And I'm moving forward.

Yeah, it's triggering, y'all. Like love it hard. I love hard, and people, you know, when you when you're really invested in somebody, you expect them to love the way that you love them. So it's it's a triggering situation. And I'm just glad that I'm in this space now. Like I say, y'all, I've grown so much. It's it's really I want to put it behind me. And it's sad, like when you attach yourself to somebody, everything comes back up. Every every interview is going to be a question. So I'm trying to move forward in the most peaceful way. I really do wish him the best. I hope he is, you know, I hope he's well. And I'm moving forward.

When you when you talk about the song, loads and highs, have you healed from the things you you say in that record, because you say still up on my grind, can't get caught up in new feelings, trying to move forward, but my heart's still healing for real, but you've been getting colder by the days.

When you when you talk about the song, loads and highs, have you healed from the things you you say in that record, because you say still up on my grind, can't get caught up in new feelings, trying to move forward, but my heart's still healing for real, but you've been getting colder by the days.

POPA thirty for the pain. Are you out of that space?

POPA thirty for the pain. Are you out of that space?

I think anybody that goes through something traumatic you can be out of a space. But there's moments where you have your days. So I'm healed, but hey, you know, tomorrow something I might read something or I might see something that triggers me. I am so human, y'all. I don't have a filter on me, so I'm still healing. I'm in the process.

I think anybody that goes through something traumatic you can be out of a space. But there's moments where you have your days. So I'm healed, but hey, you know, tomorrow something I might read something or I might see something that triggers me. I am so human, y'all. I don't have a filter on me, so I'm still healing. I'm in the process.

What putins in a happy space? What makes you happy? What makes you calm and relax?

What putins in a happy space? What makes you happy? What makes you calm and relax?

And you know it makes me happy seeing my fans and actually touching my fans when I'm on the road. I'm the most commonest, nicest. It gives me so much joy, y'all. Like when people relate to your music come up to you and say thank you, I needed that song. It makes everything worth it. And also just seeing my music elevate, y'all. This is my first time I hitting number one gradually. You know what I mean that that takes a lot for me. I'm an independent artist. I don't have a crazy backing force behind me. Everything is done with my team and that means the most to me when you kind of see your work being paid off, because we work hard as women. We work so hard, and I don't want to say harder than guys, but I'm gonna say it. We work ten times harder than the guys just for a little piece of respect. So when you see your work being paid off is the ultimate, the ultimate, you know, joy.

And you know it makes me happy seeing my fans and actually touching my fans when I'm on the road. I'm the most commonest, nicest. It gives me so much joy, y'all. Like when people relate to your music come up to you and say thank you, I needed that song. It makes everything worth it. And also just seeing my music elevate, y'all. This is my first time I hitting number one gradually. You know what I mean that that takes a lot for me. I'm an independent artist. I don't have a crazy backing force behind me. Everything is done with my team and that means the most to me when you kind of see your work being paid off, because we work hard as women. We work so hard, and I don't want to say harder than guys, but I'm gonna say it. We work ten times harder than the guys just for a little piece of respect. So when you see your work being paid off is the ultimate, the ultimate, you know, joy.

I also think people don't realize how successful you are.

I also think people don't realize how successful you are.

Like you a gold artist, you got gold plax, you're right for mad people, Like you're on tour, you just got a number one, like you got a very successful career.

Like you a gold artist, you got gold plax, you're right for mad people, Like you're on tour, you just got a number one, like you got a very successful career.

I think, No, I'm so blessed.

I think, No, I'm so blessed.

Oh yeah you too, thank you.

Oh yeah you too, thank you.

I'm so blessed. And it's just because I'm not super super flashy or I'm not on the grim trying to put it in their face every day. Yeah, I'm blessed, and I want I want people to know, like it's cool to be humble. Everybody don't need to know, you know what I'm saying, your bank account, like I like to appeal to the trenches. And for me, you know, I want to be relatable forever. I don't want nobody to think like hoin you on your level. I'm with you, you know what I'm saying, So I'm humble with it.

I'm so blessed. And it's just because I'm not super super flashy or I'm not on the grim trying to put it in their face every day. Yeah, I'm blessed, and I want I want people to know, like it's cool to be humble. Everybody don't need to know, you know what I'm saying, your bank account, like I like to appeal to the trenches. And for me, you know, I want to be relatable forever. I don't want nobody to think like hoin you on your level. I'm with you, you know what I'm saying, So I'm humble with it.

I wonder how that works for you though in this era, because we are in an era where everybody cares about everything except for the music.

I wonder how that works for you though in this era, because we are in an era where everybody cares about everything except for the music.

Even though you're super successful just because of your music, they do want you to be live. They do want you to be posting.

Even though you're super successful just because of your music, they do want you to be live. They do want you to be posting.

Pics like it's the gift and the curse. For me, I'm not distracted by that, like y'all, I get my joy from from other other things. Instagram does not run my life. And honestly, putting your business out on Instagram every day isn't even smart anymore. People are pocket watchers, they're envious, their haters. You have a lot of people that will try to come around you for the wrong reasons. And I want everything genuine, so I don't I don't mind playing, you know, And the humble route is working for me. Like I say, I'm blessed, and that's what it is. You know, I don't need approval from nobody.

Pics like it's the gift and the curse. For me, I'm not distracted by that, like y'all, I get my joy from from other other things. Instagram does not run my life. And honestly, putting your business out on Instagram every day isn't even smart anymore. People are pocket watchers, they're envious, their haters. You have a lot of people that will try to come around you for the wrong reasons. And I want everything genuine, so I don't I don't mind playing, you know, And the humble route is working for me. Like I say, I'm blessed, and that's what it is. You know, I don't need approval from nobody.

Do you feel like people don't see the work that you put in or look past you, right, because the way you came in the game you came is so strong, right, Yeah, And it was like, I mean you you didn't did damn it? Everything you didn't work with every artist you wanted to work with, you probably didn't rooting for every artist you you platinum, your your gold, You're on tours, sold out a readers, by the way, and this is and when we say sold out, they say, we just put the tarp on the third right on a third level. I mean sold out, sold out. So do you feel like people look past you at times?

Do you feel like people don't see the work that you put in or look past you, right, because the way you came in the game you came is so strong, right, Yeah, And it was like, I mean you you didn't did damn it? Everything you didn't work with every artist you wanted to work with, you probably didn't rooting for every artist you you platinum, your your gold, You're on tours, sold out a readers, by the way, and this is and when we say sold out, they say, we just put the tarp on the third right on a third level. I mean sold out, sold out. So do you feel like people look past you at times?

I do. I do. I won't lie and be like nah, I feel like I'm getting all my j just too. There are a lot of days where I want to be included in a conversation. And for me, that is what keeps me working. Like I'm not satisfied yet. I'm not throwing in a towel yet. I still got work to do. But in the last few years, y'all, honestly, I feel like the attention is there. My audience is growing the flowers I'm being given, so I don't mind taking the stairs, you know what I'm saying. The hard work is giving me so much discipline. So when when you do see me getting that Grammy or getting that award, you'll know it's really hard. Work. Nobody paid nobody to do this, you know what I mean. Nobody's spoon fed me this. I really worked my ass off to make it here, So I don't mind it. A lot of people come up, and it's just as quick as they come up, you know, they can come down. So I'm not mad at my process. Every artist is different, you know. I'm a motivation for the girls just like me that ain't running around trying to make it in one day. You know, like, let's part severe, y'all, let's put the work in. I don't mind.

I do. I do. I won't lie and be like nah, I feel like I'm getting all my j just too. There are a lot of days where I want to be included in a conversation. And for me, that is what keeps me working. Like I'm not satisfied yet. I'm not throwing in a towel yet. I still got work to do. But in the last few years, y'all, honestly, I feel like the attention is there. My audience is growing the flowers I'm being given, so I don't mind taking the stairs, you know what I'm saying. The hard work is giving me so much discipline. So when when you do see me getting that Grammy or getting that award, you'll know it's really hard. Work. Nobody paid nobody to do this, you know what I mean. Nobody's spoon fed me this. I really worked my ass off to make it here, So I don't mind it. A lot of people come up, and it's just as quick as they come up, you know, they can come down. So I'm not mad at my process. Every artist is different, you know. I'm a motivation for the girls just like me that ain't running around trying to make it in one day. You know, like, let's part severe, y'all, let's put the work in. I don't mind.

That's why I was trivial when you said that about Jenaico, because I slew to Geniago.

That's why I was trivial when you said that about Jenaico, because I slew to Geniago.

I just never heard anybody say that.

I just never heard anybody say that.

But I know a generation of girls who look at you like that, Like you see all of these girls, they'd be like, tank that deal, Tank that deal. And it's not even just you know, fans, it's actual stars like I see Scissors say that.

But I know a generation of girls who look at you like that, Like you see all of these girls, they'd be like, tank that deal, Tank that deal. And it's not even just you know, fans, it's actual stars like I see Scissors say that.

I've seen Cardy say that. I've seen a bunch of people just give it up.

I've seen Cardy say that. I've seen a bunch of people just give it up.

To you so much love. But Jane was that for me early early in the game. When Janey was you know, first drop in music. It's not like she was just everywhere on every radio station, but her music resonated. So that's how I feel about my music. It's it's not about a look an image. It's about what touches you and reaches you. So that's why she's to me like the blueprint for me because she never had to sell us, so she never had to, you know, step out of her boundaries to get to where she at. So yeah, Janey, she owes the flag for me.

To you so much love. But Jane was that for me early early in the game. When Janey was you know, first drop in music. It's not like she was just everywhere on every radio station, but her music resonated. So that's how I feel about my music. It's it's not about a look an image. It's about what touches you and reaches you. So that's why she's to me like the blueprint for me because she never had to sell us, so she never had to, you know, step out of her boundaries to get to where she at. So yeah, Janey, she owes the flag for me.

All I think about.

All I think about.

I mean, I love Jenne, but one of the biggest lines that got to eat the booty like groceries, that's all.

I mean, I love Jenne, but one of the biggest lines that got to eat the booty like groceries, that's all.

You know. It's kind of like she made that like ass he can go up big in the community, you know what I mean.

You know. It's kind of like she made that like ass he can go up big in the community, you know what I mean.

Lawrence, And that's what it's about, y'all. Influence, it can come in different ways.

Lawrence, And that's what it's about, y'all. Influence, it can come in different ways.

Do you feel like the comparisons help for her, right, because I think a lot of times we compare compare artists, and I think it hurts them, like because I remember when you first came out, they were like, she's the next Lauren Hill, but she's the female jay Z And it was like, why do we put those comparisons?

Do you feel like the comparisons help for her, right, because I think a lot of times we compare compare artists, and I think it hurts them, like because I remember when you first came out, they were like, she's the next Lauren Hill, but she's the female jay Z And it was like, why do we put those comparisons?

Is tink?

Is tink?

She's absolutely you know, it was too early first of all, to even say something like that, I think it was a statement about Aliyah, and like you said, Lauren, and when you have a lot of work to do it, you know people are gonna jump on that attack that. So let the artists be an artist. Everybody is different. I'm trying to be who God made me to be. Although I do take I do get influence from them, I am certainly not the next alia I am. I am Tink. So yeah, that can. That can definitely, you know, hurt a person's growth because people are then compare their stats and their numbers and it's like, okay, okay, well she ain't making no progress, but in reality, you're doing it on your own terms.

She's absolutely you know, it was too early first of all, to even say something like that, I think it was a statement about Aliyah, and like you said, Lauren, and when you have a lot of work to do it, you know people are gonna jump on that attack that. So let the artists be an artist. Everybody is different. I'm trying to be who God made me to be. Although I do take I do get influence from them, I am certainly not the next alia I am. I am Tink. So yeah, that can. That can definitely, you know, hurt a person's growth because people are then compare their stats and their numbers and it's like, okay, okay, well she ain't making no progress, but in reality, you're doing it on your own terms.

I agree.

I agree.

More importantly is the feeling, right, like if somebody says she's the next Laurence Hill or she's like a Leyah. We know how we felt when we heard those records. So it's like, now I'm looking for that feeling. So the music might be good, but if you don't give me that feeling, I'm gonna feel let down. But it can never give you that feeling because you was at a whole different time in your life.

More importantly is the feeling, right, like if somebody says she's the next Laurence Hill or she's like a Leyah. We know how we felt when we heard those records. So it's like, now I'm looking for that feeling. So the music might be good, but if you don't give me that feeling, I'm gonna feel let down. But it can never give you that feeling because you was at a whole different time in your life.

When you was on a lead.

When you was on a lead.

This is tink right right, that's it. Why do you keep the pencil writing in it? That Like that's like your little waye light of flick.

This is tink right right, that's it. Why do you keep the pencil writing in it? That Like that's like your little waye light of flick.

I love that, Yeah, it actually is. It's like the the brand for Winnes's Diary, my first mixtape. I came in with the pencil, so you know, as soon as you hit a pencil, you know it's a bachelor. It's about to get.

I love that, Yeah, it actually is. It's like the the brand for Winnes's Diary, my first mixtape. I came in with the pencil, so you know, as soon as you hit a pencil, you know it's a bachelor. It's about to get.

Real, pretty girls.

Real, pretty girls.

That feels like an affirmation song, encouraging women to prioritize, prioritize themselves and self love.

That feels like an affirmation song, encouraging women to prioritize, prioritize themselves and self love.

Toxic relationships absolutely, that's why it's the last song I wanted to leave my girls with uplifting message after all the toxicity and the album. It's like, never forget who you are and don't settle for less. And you know what I mean, if a man doesn't see your worth, he gotta he gotta go in. I feel like that song resonates because as black women, we want to be told we pretty and we want to hear that we worth you know, we worth something. So yes, pretty girls, pretty girls. We don't settle, We don't slip, we don't trip.

Toxic relationships absolutely, that's why it's the last song I wanted to leave my girls with uplifting message after all the toxicity and the album. It's like, never forget who you are and don't settle for less. And you know what I mean, if a man doesn't see your worth, he gotta he gotta go in. I feel like that song resonates because as black women, we want to be told we pretty and we want to hear that we worth you know, we worth something. So yes, pretty girls, pretty girls. We don't settle, We don't slip, we don't trip.

And you don't you don't you don't get on social a lot.

And you don't you don't you don't get on social a lot.

But you clearly pay attention because you got a lot of TikTok TikTok TikTokers on the album.

But you clearly pay attention because you got a lot of TikTok TikTok TikTokers on the album.

Yes, absolutely, I know the era we're in, social media is running the world right now, so I made sure to include some some voice notes that I felt were impactful. But absolutely, I think TikTok however, I can reach you. I'm gonna reach you if I gotta go to TikTok route if I have to, you know, if I have to come see you on tour in person. You know, however, I can reach my girls. I'm a get there.

Yes, absolutely, I know the era we're in, social media is running the world right now, so I made sure to include some some voice notes that I felt were impactful. But absolutely, I think TikTok however, I can reach you. I'm gonna reach you if I gotta go to TikTok route if I have to, you know, if I have to come see you on tour in person. You know, however, I can reach my girls. I'm a get there.

And you asked on Instagram, you ask people which one the winner's diary was their favorite.

And you asked on Instagram, you ask people which one the winner's diary was their favorite.

Yes, so people.

Yes, so people.

Got to ask you which one is your favorite? Which one resonates with you?

Got to ask you which one is your favorite? Which one resonates with you?

Oh, y'all to five? The number five. I feel like this is such progression. You know, my early mixtapes I was in the basement, audio was clipped, It was a lot of static. I think this album is so polished and it's so raw, you know. I tried to make sure that I made an album about all my phases, you know what I'm saying. The downs, there's the highs, there's the record player for my girls they like to get. Wow, it's such a you know, just a well cultivated album. I touched on everything in this one, so that's why it's going to be my favorite.

Oh, y'all to five? The number five. I feel like this is such progression. You know, my early mixtapes I was in the basement, audio was clipped, It was a lot of static. I think this album is so polished and it's so raw, you know. I tried to make sure that I made an album about all my phases, you know what I'm saying. The downs, there's the highs, there's the record player for my girls they like to get. Wow, it's such a you know, just a well cultivated album. I touched on everything in this one, so that's why it's going to be my favorite.

This is the last one.

This is the last one.

Never Oh Okay, I feel like I still have more to say. You know, they really been pressing me for a deluxe, so I got some more work to do. But it's never done for me, and my story will never be done. I'm gonna take this to the grave, y'all. Like I'm one of those artists. I feel like I'm I'm I got so much more in me. I'm just now touching that surface. So I'm excited, y'all. This is not my last one of Diary.