The Breakfast ClubINTERVIEW: Fat Joe On How The World Changed On Him, Drake-Kendrick, Latinos For Trump, Big Pun's Legacy + More
The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Fat Joe To Discuss How The World Changed On Him, Drake-Kendrick, Latinos For Trump, Big Pun's Legacy. Listen For More!
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Wake that ass up in the morning.
Breakfast Club Morning, everybody.
It's the j Envy, just hilarious, charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club law La Rosa feeling and for Jess and we got a special guest in.
The building, future man in New York City.
That's right, Joey cra done man. Do say that. Man, I'm out the way you was.
Da was on the stage the rallies.
Yeah, but I would never I'm not a politican. I would never be a politician. Hit me out.
You are though, naturally Joe, Yeah, but a politician and hip hop.
No, a politician politician. I can't do it. Trust me. Guys.
Your speech was great though that people love you Joe on both sides. But Pennsylvania, you know, it.
Hits me all the time. L's wife Simone be like, yo, you gotta run for mayor. You gotta run for mayor. Joe'll be like, Yo, you crazy. I'm not. I got nothing to do with that.
Sometimes people see things in you that you don't see in yourself.
You have to just fight for the people no matter what. And that's it. I don't want I don't want to be in politics like that. Matter of fact, I might take three years off of politics right now.
How are you feeling? How are you doing, Joe? I'm good man. You know, it's a little tough. You know, we've been dealing with a.
Lot of deaths lately and some you know, sometimes that get to me. But I've been dealing with this so much in my life that I think I've been real strong, you know what I'm saying. So you know, all our friends have been passing from Clark Cam to fat Man school Chubby Baby, to my man Percy to my brother last week. It's just it's you know, it's on. Are you dealing with devil working?
Are you dealing with it?
How are you good? I'm good, I'm good. I'm strong man. I'm stronger than I thought I would be, you know what I'm saying. But you know, it's hard when you got to tell your mom's you know, her favorite son died and I got to fly to Miami to tell all that tell his son. It's really hard, bro. I'm gonna be honest, How do.
You know your favorite mom? Like your mom's favorite son.
How you gonna lie? Is what it is. We knew that my whole life. Like you know what I'm saying, that's a favorite son. You know what I'm saying. And my mom's went up to the casket. So my mom, she's a cancer survived. So she talks with the machine and the things she was saying to my brother before we bury, it was crazy. She was like, you know, you come back to life. I would want to be your mother again. Like it was just crazy. It was crazy, but you know, we keep it moving. We got to I'm coming out on Friday. The world changed on me. I'm so proud of that work, you know what I'm.
Saying, So proud of how has the world changed for you?
You see what's going on. It's like I'm the last one gentrified them see you know my music gangster. My daughter be like, yo, dad, look at what you're saying. I'm like, yo, I'm not gonna buy a new ice Cube album. And he gonna talk about your grandfather like I want to hear him spit gangster, you know what I'm saying. So my music is ungentrified. It's like raw, it's gangst is dope. You know what I'm saying. We got something for everybody. And so you know the world has changed every which way you could think about it. This ain't the same world we grew up in it. You know what I'm saying this is, this is a real tough time. It's a tough time.
That is Fat Joe changed.
Fat Joe's changed. Where I stick to whatever it's normal, my circle gets smaller and smaller and smaller. And uh, you know, unfortunately, sometimes people we love, we catch them doing things they ain't supposed to do. So we got to get them up out the way. And that's hard to being the boss. Pays the cost to be the boss. This is hard being the leader, being a boss when you gotta regulate everything and the way we move we move by loyalty and moral white so we cleanse all that out the way. It's it's sad, hey, guys. Financially, I'm doing fantastic.
Because we know, we know.
I'm doing just fine.
With God with the new project.
You know, besides, the Paradise Joint is very street m Now did you did you want to keep it that way?
Because you could have talked about a lot of things that you're going through.
Like you've you were on the road for Kamala, You've got your own show.
You Dick Clark New Year's Eve Special.
Yeah, but still, man, I want you know, I am who I am musically. You know what I'm saying, and it's entertainment and I like to make that type of music. You know what I'm saying, and so of course I like to talk my ship. You know what I'm saying, and so that's what it's always been for me. So I don't want to change up for nothing. I want you to get it and be like either you like yeah, crack or you like, damn, he's still talking crazy. You know, it's it's a vice versa. I remember the last project I put out with Dre Nasa hit me Up and was like, damn, first bar you talking about the coke. I'm like, yo, Cause you know, it's just because your status in society and all that, it starts making you question how you making your music. I grew up on real pure hip hop, street hip hop, gangster culture. I always say I was Young Jeezy before Young Jeezy, and so I'm gonna talk my talk regardless. You know what I'm saying, and so I don't like to let you know my family status or who I am now affect the purity of my music. I wanted to sound like Joey from nineteen ninety three, Joey from nineteen ninety five, Joey from two thousand, two thousand and four. I can't otherwise, I can't do it if you want me to sit up here and preach to you and be like, yo, this dad, Calvin Lillers should have won. And that's not what I'm doing.
And you love violence. I was watching an old Breakfast Club interview and you.
The way you said, that's what it is. He said, I love violence.
I used to love. Now I got security, grified answer. Now I got security.
Smart answer though, I said that. But so you said that you're the last ungentrified rapper. But when you answer questions like that, that's a great smart but gentrified answered, and that's where it should be.
So why not gentrified answer? It's a I don't want to go to jail answer.
It's a smart answer. Yes, why but why so in the music right? Like why what's wrong with like the rappers that are after you? What's wrong with them being the gentrified artist, or like what is a gentrified artist?
Then? Well meaning that you know, like they asking me right now, like your jaw as many routes you could have went, why is your album so hard? That's who I am and I'm not going to change. And so a lot of other artists. You know what I'm saying, they changed when they definitely when they get to my age or they from my era, their music sound different, or they're talking about they used to have the bubble goose in front of the story and queens this. I'm not used to nothing. I'm popping right now, so I'm talking that ship right now. We were popping right now and that's and it's a hard job. Let me tell you something. Stay popping all the way to you out of here. That's the goal. You know, we don't you know what Jada said, We don't want to hear about them old niggas that had it be the same old niggas that radic like, we don't want to hear about you used to be popping. You had to fly this this that you know, I'm not with that. I want to do this till it's over. You know what I'm saying, be fly, pull up and sables and Louis ship and just every time you see me. You know what I'm saying. You know, even on a bummy damn flying everybody. You know what I'm saying.
But you say you don't like violence, Joe, But every we hear violence yester year, but no we hear what's the boxer name?
Plant? Because you know I can tell you the truth because he skipped out on the truth. Okay, okay, I'm not to be played with, So let's let's be clear. I don't love violence and this and that. Just don't I feel like, yo, bro, don't you know, like what's the problem? Like, don't well you don't believe the stories? Don't you know what's gonna happen to you? Respect me. I'm an eld o G. I'm walking through mine in my business. He come up on me because he want to fight Edgar Blanka. He's like, yo, man. He was talking crazy and jumping like almost like he wants to swing this world attention virule all that stuff. You know, As far as I'm concerned, he had he had a camera dude with him and it just didn't go his way. You know what I'm saying, because I let him know. I said, yo, bro, I can't tell you. He said, tell him because he was jumping up and down like he was ready to hook off. And I was like, your bro, you you h you will be eliminated if you punch me. You're gone, bro, like this ain't fighting, not like you're gone like this ain't like and he stopped like he because it's very rare somebody tells you something in another way like that like in human life when you tell somebody, yo, my man, do you know what this is? He was like, oh wow, the troll is over, like you know what I'm saying. I was with my wife, I was with my daughter. He was very disrespectful this guy. I understand his boxing and all that, but he came at me and he was he was going like by acting like he.
I'm like, yo, bro, like he was about to spa.
You ain't Joe. You're not punching that Joe. You got some sort of a wish witch hunting like you. It's gonna be bad, bro. Because I'm one of them guys. I can't deal with it. Not now. I'm all putting a lot of work in the game. I'm well respected. I can't do it disrespectful, not of any you know. I guess now you could diss me on Twitter. You can dis me on social media, you know, because they dissed me every day. I don't know. Do they dish you every day?
I don't look.
Every day.
Yeah, I'm like every other day.
Oh no, no, just me every day. If I want to feel horrible, I'll just throw on X, your mother do this and that. I'm like, oh wow, you know what I'm saying. The only thing that does for me is let me know that that because you know, I'm a legend. You know, people celebrate me in a different way, iconic this, this, that, and so if you stay in that lane, you wouldn't realize that the dangers on the other side of the door. But the ex lets me know, Oh there's people who think this way. We gotta be careful, we gotta watch what we do, because you know, people tell you enough. You gotta believe what they're saying. So you be like, all right, cool, I see it. You know what I'm saying. I see what it is. But other than that, I get nothing but love to sound.
Think I've ever really heard somebody just playing with you like that, And.
You know, that guy played with me. That's why I have to stop him. There's a way to make a guy do the electric buggy real quick. Like. Boy was like, Yo, this this, I said, Bro. He looked at me. His whole face dropped. He's like, oh, he never been told what I told him. And my daughter said, in real life, Dad, in real life, you talk to him like that in real life, I said, Man, he was. He was acting like he was gonna punch me in my face in front of all these people. We can't, we can't go for that.
He said, you told him how to feel having to get off the ground.
Three He got knocked out three times. Why are you talking to me crazy? You just got knocked out three times? What are you talking about? Yeah, what are you talking about?
You?
You want to smoke.
But that's a part of their like the new age of things.
Like you said, there's a cameras he's recording, and you resonate with so many different generations because of the stuff that you do.
No, I'm with it, But how do you I guess how do you?
It doesn't happen a lot, But in preparing to deal with that stuff, like, how do you prepare to deal with that because.
You just don't really go out much.
Okay, because you know what I do.
As I sit in my couch, I mind my business. I have security former police officers. Like, we're not going to trouble. We're not getting it, no type deal with them. Don't deal with me, you know what I'm saying. But me personally, I never get approached like that or played with like that. You know, this guy get it. It was boxing and he wants to go viral whatever the case may be. You're not going viral. Even if you miss swinging on me. There's repercussions for that. I just want to respect that former godfather had when I was coming up. Certain guys we knew not to play with. We just ain't playing with them. Yo. This guy's with his wife, his family. Don't play with him like you want to play with him. Nah.
Now you mentioned you with your daughter? Yes, how is fat joe as a fault? You just asked me that behind.
Behind the sees and the reason.
I am the greatest father on earth.
But now your daughter's getting to the age where she's in college and she's going to start dating.
She's dating. I follow.
How is Joey Kracks as a father with a dating daughter.
I love this guy. Actually, I like him. I would have loved him if he was at dating my mother. Beautiful guy. His family comes from a great family, and we love the kid they grew up. We got pictures of them two years old, were on vacation with the family, and he I noticed in all them pictures he's standing next to as the whole time. He's in every pick, like two years old, three years old, four years old. I'm like, yo, it's a beautiful guy. You know what I'm saying. You know, I got mad love for him. But with my daughter, I'm really hands on, you know what I'm saying. And people say that divorce doesn't affect families, but to me, it really does. No matter. You can lie and feel better if you want. But you know, a dad present, you know what I'm saying, takes it a long way. And we got we gotta teach our daughters how to respect themselves and know that a man gotta respect you. So I give my daughter everything so she could know whoever come up behind me he got to do even better than that, or he got to respect the culture of whatever it is going on. And you know, I'm just from that school of if I got it, we all got it, you know what I'm saying. So she's living a little house on the prairie. You know what I'm saying. Now you see you follow on this. That's get crazy to me. That's crazy.
Always on the fashion blogs, always on this girl car.
And my wife. Boy. Let me tell you something. These people run it up.
That's what.
I'm trying.
I'm trying to stream.
I'm trying to stream account We call him doctor deaf.
Sh the every detail be hit.
Wow, I call him doctor deaf. Nobody like to deal with the account who love it? Like who loved when it's tax time you sit down. I want to know the great American that loves it to sit down. And these accountants they're like they're numb. Like you know, if you go to a doctor, doctor to yo, you're sick. We gotta fight for your life. He does twenty surgeries a day. He talks to you like none with no compassion. Accountants talk to you with no compassion, like hey this is the number.
No.
But I have to go to the jungles and shout almost got shot. Well, they want their half Joa. You always know you have a partner.
He's like, no the play shaking, nor ask about doghouse right now. In the doghouse, you say, gotta put them in the doghouse. I know, but I want to reverse. That's the last time You've been in the doghouse.
Many a time, many a time. It's like, you know, sometimes you know what's wold is? Well? I live in the projects right and it was a two bedroom, but the smallest bedrooms. We were stuck in the apartment five now that I know. And my ceilings is so big, the house is so big. We was in each other's face. There was times I wouldn't talk to my father for three four months and walking around the house could eat my food dish because you know, my father was tough, and you know, the worst thing you could do is break communication, whether it's your kids, whether it's your wife. And you know, she'll walk around for three months not talking to me, like I'm like, oh man, something got to give, you know what I'm saying. Then I gotta go talk to all. You know, I know how to do this. That's where the politics come in. I gotta talk to Terrell, I gotta talk to Lauren riding girl. You know, all her influential friends and be like, Yo, this is this is terrible. I'm getting played here. That's why you got to put him in the doghouse. That's an ungentrified songied ain't nobody talking about the dog house. You know your man, Chris Rock it's his favorite song. But of course he lost forty million in the divorce. Anybody who took that l like that. They want to put him in the doghouse. That's the doghouse. It's probably my favorite song on the album. That's Crazy.
You got Chris on the album. You and Chris got a real close relationship.
Yeah, we cool. We see each other at the games. We big nick fans. I was like, yo, bro, I need you. We were at NAS's fiftieth birthday party and his speech was so incredible. I said, Yo, Chris Man, I never heard nobody say what you shit? I said, I need you to say that on my album. He's like he pulled up uber, walked in there, did whatever he had to do. Then he just left like in the uber like like a normal guy. I don't know how to do that. Everything gotta be you know.
Yeah, Now did you feel when the dude from the Dodgers Herendez blamed your performance for the reason the Yankees lost the World Series.
They did you dirty with the mics. Man.
You know I'm not I'm not uh premeditated enough, right, So somebody like a jay Z would have thought about what if we lose? I never thought that. I'm like, yo' It's Yankee Stadium, my favorite team, my whole life. I'm coming out there this this dad. I'm represented justice the Puerto Ricans the night before Trump, so i came out there talking about Puerto Rico. So I'm like, it's uh right. Then they lose and now you are Fat Joe, You're the Jinks, You're the day. I'm like, yo, bro, they was down to like, but the guy just me. I'm cool with it, you know what I'm saying. I'm cool with a guy you know that's his choice or what. I didn't know it was so personal, Like it could have been the Dodgers, it could have been the Blue Jays, it could have been anybody that we was just you know, I was celebrating the World Series. They you know la sometimes they really take it La New York. You know what I'm saying, I ain't look at it like that. I was happy when I've seen ice Cube come out there and kill that, you know what I'm saying. And I loved it. I loved the whole experience about it. So hip this and me it don't mean nothing to me, you know what I'm saying. I get dissed all the time.
Would you perform at yeaga CEM many times?
But the audio practice three times where the music was perfectly fine. I pray, first of all, Jesse Collins did it. Not only Jesse Collins did it. The guy don't want to disrespect him, the guy who plays the instruments with the here not quest the other guy he does everything. He's the biggest I'm sorry for disrespecting you. You might have to chop it up. The guy who plays the instruments for everybody, right, So I had the two best guys in the world. So we went through the rehearsal and it was perfectly fine. And so when it came on it was a delay in my in my in my ear thing, and I'm trying to catch it. They did me. They did you?
Did you know?
You're like I'm telling you, I was there. This is Jesse Collins. So by the way, you're there from the morning to the night. They don't even allow you to go home when you deal with Jesse Collins and your kidnapp. So we went over that three times and it was perfectly fine. And then when the actual thing comes on, it's a delay. You know, I perform every night. It's never a delay. It's not going to be a delay on the Dick Clark Special New Year's Eve. I don't know what happened. It was delay. I'm not making excuses. I performed those same three songs every single day. It's not my fault. The thing was delayed. I don't know what to tell you. I still I still enjoyed it.
Would go and do it again.
Of course, Yo, listen, I grew up in the Bronx and it's you look young, So this would sound like a cap but if you google, the Bronx looked like Ukraine, like people blew up the buildings. I don't know. I'm not responsible for it. But where I grew up, the whole Bronx was flatline. I don't I'm telling you the truth. It looked bombs right. We played on rubble, we didn't play in parks. We played on buildings that were broken, right, bandoned buildings. Like I say, the biggest gang in the Bronx was the stray Dogs. First thing in the morning. That running straight dogs is out there, and boy, you better stay away from the stray Dogs. Right. So the only inspiration I had growing up, I was I'm five minutes away from Yankee Stadium. Was the Yankee Stadium. They had the light when they had a night game. You know, we would go over there. You know, the Yankees mean everything to be you know what I'm saying. So to be tapped, and I believe I deserved it. Thank you for sticking up for me. But I believe I deserve to perform there. Yo, this this that, how about? They were picking some names from New York that with no disrespect. There was white guys looking at me and Yankee Stadium like who's that? And I got anthems. I'm pretty much a superstar. I do Dick Clark, I do stadiums. They were looking at me like they were waiting for don't go messing with Cotton Night Joe, Cotton Nijoe and special crowd out.
There but anonymous with New York. If you get one of.
These underground rappers, YO, throw this guy like he was not gonna do that.
Underground.
They was naming everybody. I didn't hear a lot of people.
I only really hurt Foy.
It was either Joe, fifty kids, the whole. I thought, don't you know the names?
I heard?
Well, those are big names. That's not what I was talking about. Maybe I'm too much into the underground blocks.
Oh yeah, I didn't see that.
Yeah, they was naming you know, some underground guys. I'm like, yo, them boys would have been lost in this water. I'm not talking about fifty old war Jady Kiss.
But it was an honor, especially with La having Cube. You gotta have a New York staple. Who's they got Cube?
So they need a New York staple from the Bronx.
Only day was a good day.
It's one of the best, and it's a crystal when it came on to that's that made me so mad.
It's once again, whether you want to call a cap or not. I was there all day. I rehearsed three times that day, and when I went out there to perform, it was a delay on the joint. It's crazy. I don't know what to tell you. I don't get nervous.
I want to go back to the album they don't love you, They don't love you. Nobody Uh, it says, what is it?
Uh?
Nobody wins when the family feuds. Don't ask me no questions about remy path?
You heard it? Why you asking me question? How many time?
And I'm not asking you about that?
I just wonder how many times have people asked you about that? When you had to put that in the song?
A lot? You know what I'm saying Behind the scenes, family friends, this, this, that, and I don't I can't tell you. Don't ask no questions about redmend path poos is real. Plus, I don't know nothing.
You don't know nothing because you don't ask no.
I just don't know nothing. I don't know what to tell you. Is Halloween, the whole family comes to my house. That's my god daughter. She runs my house. So she comes in my god daughter. You see, this is why I'm trying to tell you. When you deal with kids with love, they know they're love Like there's nothing she can't do. She just gets up, she runs the whole house and then she comes to my room. In my room, I have more pictures of hard than anybody, So I got like four pictures of us. So she brings her cousin to the house and she's like, yo, yeah, come here, give me look. Look, Papa, I've got my fock. You know. Her cousins like, you need another one. I think five is better. These kids are funny. So according to me, we're good. You know what I'm saying.
I don't know when you talk about the world changing, right, Like the metrics for what's successful have changed too.
Like it's just not the same.
Like, ain't no ten times platinum, It's no, it's noneing that happens.
So what's considered this.
Music out of love? If it does great, it does great. I always make money through streaming. And you got to understand this ain't the first week thing. Back in the days were like you sell the first week and they project what you make. It's gonna be making money for twenty thirty years when people pick it up. See the way the streaming works is if you listen to the album, he listens, he listens, she listens. Enough of us listen that goes as a sale. So we're not selling physical copies where people got to stand outside. Online you just downloaded on your phone and it's just it keeps making money forever, you know what I'm saying, And I wanted content out there, tell you the truth. I thought about this question. I retired from hip hop. There's no lie. I was doing shows, TV, whatever, And when Killer Mike won that Grammy changed. The next day, I was in the studio with Dre. I was like, Yo, it's like Dre Killer Mike. You heard his album. He was like, yo, I got a joined on there. I'm like, Yo, let's get in the studio. They finally giving them out to the right people, and so I was like, Yo, let's get in the studio, let's work, let's make this album. So if it wasn't for Killer Mike, I'd have been all the way retired, you know what I'm saying. And I remember getting a call and not like I get a call every day, but I got a call from Eminem convincing me not to retire. When I retired, Joe, you one of the last ones. Laugh you don't. I was like, yo, man, I'm mad of here with this. But when Killer Mike Wonder Grammy, I said, oh see. I never looked at people jealousy. I always looked at his inspiration. When somebody get something I said, Oh, wow, we could get that. Somebody get a fly house called this. I'm like, oh, we could get that. The people getting we could get that. You know what I'm saying, It ain't at this point. It ain't like no amount of money that we can't get. What I'm saying, look at these guys you got on the wall. But Martin Lawrence, Will Smith, who's that lane the waif you up there? You know they're all rich. You're up there too, Hey, Yeah, I'm up there somewhere. I'm I'm in.
The section eight, sir, got damn Max up there, Big Daddy, Charlie Murphy, Jennifer Lewis, Nori Eastern Rady right there.
Who's the woman right now?
Maxine Waters that.
Jennifer Lewis, Okay, God bless right there? Yeah of course, yeah, they all got money.
Man.
You know what I'm saying. I want to be on that type of wall right there. You know what I'm saying.
Remember when you said that Drake and Kendrick beef was over because Kendrick was taking too long.
Yeah, I thought it was over all right. Remember you said that sometimes people act like my voice ain't powerful. If I'm going to be conspiracy Joe. He threw that record out right after Fat Joe said that next day. That's oh, Fat Joe think it's over, it's on. I don't know.
I didn't think it was old. I just said Kendrick was on the clock. I felt the same. I'm like, da, it's thinking a while.
I was taking a while, but we didn't know. He was making Chapter thirty six, the thirty six Chambers of Woo Tang.
Still getting dragged for that song. He heard, so Kendrick heard, you had to drop the song. Now, Drake still getting dragged.
I don't know if he look.
It's crazy because he took a long time, but he finished it in a week. Kendrick finished it in like four days.
Listen, guys, Uh, you know hip hop we've been battling forever. You know what I'm saying, Somebody I win, somebody gotta lose. And uh, you know, with me, you know, maybe because I'm older, I measured this a whole different way. And this is terrible because this ain't good culturally. But you know, from where I stand, you know what I'm saying. You know they're both good. That's all I can That's all I can say. You know what I'm saying. They both good, they're both wealthy. At this point, they're both doing great. And I don't know if I don't want to say, yo, they're moving on because then in chapter thirty six, might sixty six might come up. I don't know, but I know you got laws. If I don't have no comment on that, you know what I'm saying that.
You've been standing by that. No comment?
Huh?
I said, you've been this the second time I heard you say it.
No comment because I really don't have a comment because, like I said, I'm morally right, I'm loyalty. You know what I'm saying. I just you know, I got no comment that. You know what I'm saying that ain't you know what I'm saying. What do you think about the lawsuit?
I thought that the timing was horrible for Drake.
I thought that the timing made him look like I said, I thought that. I thought that I like that. I'm just telling you, girl, I thought that I understood though the business side of it. If that conversation is true, there's arguments that it's not.
What do you think about the lawsuit?
I think it was bad timing.
You think bad time. Peo would have did it on a great time.
It would have been good timing.
But not after he just released his album and everybody's talking about the super Bowl. He's there talking about it too much, and anything he does, he could say, it's not towards Kendrick is against UMG. People are gonna put it towards Kendrick. It's gonna make him look crazy. I think if he wanted to do it, I think do it later on. And I think he needs to come back with an album. He's rapping like, no singing, no album with party, just rap everything he feels put in his lyrics.
I think you should just check no because I feel like retirement. No, not retirement, not retirement. Chill, just like give it a beat, because I feel like I like Drake. But I think timing is always it's going to be horrible for him for a little bit. Let us get through the super Bowl.
And he still gets busy.
I'm just he's Drake.
No. I mean, I think whenever you're a multi billion dollar entity, you're going to have a problem with somebody labeling you a pedophile or some type of sexual offender.
So I don't have no problem with that.
But the problem I have is him challenging a system that he's benefited from, Like all of those performers enhancing drugs, the label gave the song or whatever, drake, you benefited from that your whole career. So that's the issue I got. It's like you're telling on yourself. You cut your own legs off money, you.
Turned it on us. Now it's your turn, no.
I said. I What I'm saying to you is sometimes the artist see what happens with record labels. Let me just tell generically what happens with major record labels. To be honest with you, because I'm independent fifteen sixteen years. Is a lot of times these artists don't know how these records are getting played. A lot of they don't know the workings. They don't even want to do an interview, they don't know what's going on. So they don't know how these records are getting promoted. They don't know what's being done to make you the hottest in the world. But you know, that's why I can't give no comment because to me, a rap battle is a rap battle. You move on, you know what I'm saying.
So anything should be able to go in a rap battle for the thing has been able to go.
Yes, Fat Joe has been a fat fucked elephant in the room. My wife on the Discover, my dad, Like, you know, the hip hop is it's terrible once they once you, once you go in to yard. I think j Cole knew this. I think he just said, oh, this is too nasty for my liking. Let me just bow gracefully. And you know, it depends like who wants fifty cent on the ass fifty on you. It's a terrible day, y'all. Yoh, Like I dealt with that for seven years.
But y'all made it look good.
One of my favorite moments of the MTV Awards when you went on stage and you was like, I feel so comfortable here all the police, all of the police security court unit.
That was fantastic.
H Yeah. The jails rang off with that. I was bagging the jails, you know what I'm saying. But you know, thank god, you know. But at the end of the day, we're talking about two brothers that are wealthy. I really want to say, they're not rich guys that're wealthy. They loved their families. We love them both as artists. There's no question about that and maybe you know everybody moves on. I don't know, it's not my business. Last time I said that, the guy dropped thirty six changerses.
You know, when people say things like yo, you think Drake and Kendrick would ever be cool, I'm like, well, fifty and Joe a cool.
They can be cool.
It can be cool when time dies down. Time, when time dies down, they could be cool. They could get money together. Who knows what the future. We don't know about the future. But the world changed on me, you know what I'm saying. So the future is not the more the world changes on you, Joe. The older you get, the more death happens around you.
Do you ever feel like you want to reach out to like old homies and like buried the hatchet?
No, and so them niggas away from me far I need them away from me. Man, You know you know my thing is And it's crazy because I you know, I looked at this one interview I did recently, right, So just like you looked at you know, when I go somewhere, I look at the old interviews I did here. If I'm going on math, how I look at the old interview I did with the more drink champs or whatever. So I looked at one interview where I was just saying, we really stick by morals and lowy you to you all the way down to my mother. Bro. Swear to god, you know we did. My brother. My brother was Kingpin, right, he was the boss. I was number two. When we was in the streets into his funeral. The whole back was either former or Kingpins. Now, the whole back anybody you ever heard the name of in the streets driving Lamborghinis and dish and throwing the biggest the whole back. You can't be a rat and get them people to come to your funeral. You can't be a sucker. You can't be illmoral, you can't be not living by the cold, you know. So my thing is we choose it. Listen, breakfast club is a great concept and it wins. You might go solo and it don't work. You might say, yo, I'm the star, I'm Lauren Hill, I'm this. You might go solo or don't. You might go solo or don't work. We love you all together. So every now and then you got people who want to be ex communicados. You know, they want to be like they think they could do it, and then once they do it and you step over here and you do it with disrespect, can't come back. That's how we work. And guess what, the guys who stood, they're all rich. In fact, they're filthy rich, these people, these guys, everybody who stood is rich. Everybody's just you know, if it's about monetary, everybody's good. It's just about you chose the wrong path. And once you choose the wrong path, you can't come back. It's sorry for you. Sometimes when somebody does something stupid. We like, man, you went there like you know me. You know, when you got fat Joe loving you, there's nothing he won't do for you, And so you know, to lose that. On this earth, it's so many fake people, fake friends, are disloy you people. I won't disrespect none of my team for money. I won't disrespect my man's wife. I want this, I won't do none of that. Like when you got a guy like that who's solid with you and you go the other way, it's like it tells a lot about you. Now.
They said that the world changed on me as the album that comes out this Friday. And when you talk about the world changing what are the things in the world that you're like, I just there's no way, there's no morals, there's no none of that.
The things that you just.
Said, that's hard to say with a title like that. How are you Latino? And you vote for Donald Trump? When they say Puerto Rico's a dump or garbage trash this. See. The thing about Puerto Ricans is they do it to me, like to me, and if you ask me, I think I'm king of the English speaking Puerto Ricans. I tell you the truth. And every time I go my nephew, he was born in Puerto Rico, he says, Yo. When I go over there and go vacation or something, he says, yo, you went to my island. You went to my island, my island. Every Puerto Rican that girl right there tell you my island. They really think they own something over there, right, And the man disrespect your island and you talk about that's your president, this and this and that, and you go vote for him. It's disgusting. The world changed on me. Where's your morals? Where's your pride? That was the conversation I had. That's all I could say. You know what I'm saying, And it's just so many different I don't want to take it political, but it's just so many ways that this world is changing it. I just don't understand it, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes things happen in this world where there's a horse and buggy, like I feel like the horse and buggy just got turned into the car, or the dow phone became a self. I don't I'm confused. So I sit back and I'd be like, damn, this everything weird right now, you know what I'm saying. So what I do is I just try to stay to the number. You know, the the mayor is indicted, police commissioners, and one day like this, this is.
Not crazy to you, just like an episode of power.
Question to you though, because as like a person that like really feels like your your family and.
Shout out the mayor. I stand by the mayor gas.
Your family in Puerto Rico. That's like, this is my island, right and.
Here your friend if you went to vacation tomorrow to Puerto rican your best friend to be like my island all right, well, your island is garbage according to these guys that you just voted for.
My question to you is though, right, like, not even just with like people that are Puerto Rican, but just people in general that are from where you're from.
What you went through.
You said you are like your hip hop politician, You're for the people. You were working on lowering the marijuana penalties with Kamala's team. You wouldn't go across the island work with you on that because your people need that.
I personally think I will never work with Donald Trump, just me. I don't care what the glory is, what the thing is. I don't care. You know, I've been fighting for healthcare price transparency, going to Washington for years, this this that if he passed the law, I don't even think I could stand behind him and just be like, Okay, he passed the law. I've been fighting for it for ten years. Just my personal opinion is what it is. You know what I'm saying.
Why do you fight for the healthcare so strong? Is it a family member that went through something because you've been on.
It for a long time.
Man, let me tell you something, man, it's a lot of families out there hurting getting denied health coverage, don't know what they paying. You know, when you see people limping across the street. They know they got to go to the doctor. They scared to go in there and get the bill right. And so many people, you know, you got people who paid insurance for ten twenty years and they get denied the coverage, you know, And so this is where you see this this dynamics. So it's over one hundred million Americans that are in healthcare debt. And so you know, according to the census, ain't but three hundred million Americans, so one out of every three people owes money to the hospitals. And these guys are just running it up. You know, I do not condone the man getting killed the other day. That's not what I'm saying. Guys is saying. You know, I'm not with nobody, but you know a lot of people hurting out there, you know what I'm saying, And so you know that's why I talk and behalf for that. But just so that you know, if the man come right now, pass the law, I'm not standing behind him. I'm not even if that's what I really want. I've been fighting for that for five six years, going to you know, not doing that.
You know what I'm saying you when you go in the studio now, and you do albums like the world change.
What do you What do you take from?
I just stay I'm the best. Let's just talk about that, skillful. I'm the best, so you could do whatever you want everybody quietly. You listen to my album, you listen to anybody else album, you just see who's the best. And so what I say is, I'm alive. Give me my flowers now while I gotta die. Why the game gotta die? Why Uncle Luke gotta die? Why didn't it tell him the truth? You know what I'm saying. Guys ain't moving like we moving like, stop acting like that. You know what I'm saying. But you don't want to give it up like you know. So I just feel like I'm the best. Like I'm being honest with you, I'm I'm so proud of this album. I feel like I'm the best. And there was a one time there was I got that for you. Whenever I'm with Remy, I feeling in the studio when me and Remy work together, he's there, you know. Other than that, I take everybody in the studio with me. I take care of rest, I take rock Camp, I take out cast, I take Pat Boblo I take everybody in the studio with me, Rick Ross, I take everybody in the studio with me, and it's so much knowledge here. You know of music that you know. I going there and I start creating. I start hitting different flows, I start picking different kinds of music and every you know I'm the best, Go get it.
I want to ask you about NOAs too, because you said you said Killer Mike inspired you when you want to grab me?
NA?
Did inspire you when he won one? What was it? Magic? Who wanted the magic?
That's a crazy Uh that's a crazy question. But yeah, I guess so.
But because you won one later in his career.
Yeah yeah, I mean, but you guys are crazy. Uh. You know naza Is Hillmatic NAS should have had twenty Grammys. It should have been just stopped and said yo, lifetime achievement and ward nots like because the album NAS one with, we don't compare that to Illmatic and steal Madic or nothing like that. He should have been wonted, you know what I'm saying. So when they gave it to him, it was almost like we were fronting on this guy for twenty years, you know what I'm saying. So you know, and so you know, I felt he should have had twenty Grammys. It's crazy when you when you know the Grammys is crazy too. Anyway, that's a whole nother that's a whole nother thing. So it's like, you know, thank god they starting to embrace hip hop culture. You know, Pete Rock and Comic got nominated. A bunch of guys got nominated. I actually loved that album. But you know, you know, they catching up.
You know what I'm saying now, you mentioned Remy, Right, she's on the US record When is Remy gonna get back in the studio?
And she got a whole album. I don't know if it was for her to say it, but she ready ready right?
And how did you get Remy from? Because usually Remy Deebo's you and gets on every record that she wants.
Right.
And I've seen her when I seen I seen that the Giants game.
I didn't know she was a Philadelphia Eagles fans, by the way, but I didn't know that, but she is.
And I had to sit next to her the whole game, which was a problem. But anyway, but it.
Was like where's your pride where?
But sitting next to what it seemed like she loves motherhood so much. We sat there for two hours talking about our kids. I was like, damn, I don't know if Remy wants to do any more record.
She what time is it still early?
Right?
Doing? The girl here right now, getting up school, picking out the alp and my god, daughter's all getting with her what she want to wear. She played like beautician with her. You know what I'm saying, shout out a little linnie too, so they get ready to go to school like she's a real real mother, hands on.
Like trunk or treat mother like like decorating the trunk.
My thing is, you know. I had told her since the baby was born. I was like, yo, you know, get a nanny so that the baby you can move like you're a rap superstar. And she refused, and I kept every time she every time, bro, let's sit down, let's talk. I'm like, I write it down and be like nanny with a circle. She'd be like, nah, nah, nah nah, I'm not leaving my daughter with nobody. And then if you ain't family, like family, family, family, she ain't leaving that girl with nobody. And so I'm like, yo, this is what the rich people do. This is how you get rich and get a nanny go. She's like, nah, you know, I'm with my daughter, so nah, I love it. You know what I'm saying. I love it. She's a real mother, hands on.
But the music is gonna be just chilling to the nanny happens because she can't move around.
She got music. She remy ma is locked and loaded, ready to go, video shot, all type of stuff.
That's the way.
Yeah, you got to ask her, you know what I'm saying. She's like, she's ready. She got a whole album ready to go, you know what I'm saying. So it's on her when she start dropping music and it's fire.
When you released it with the out of Control record, right, remue spitting crazy on that.
That's not on this album. Was that on her album? Or that was just just a feed there?
That was just a joint on on the album. And then I was like, you know what, you know, if I have my weight, well, Paradise it's number ten rhythmic record in the United States. Right now, I dropped another single with Babyface number one most added records, so we actually move it, right, I got you, huh? I got you, Babyface to live in legend right, but my thing is right. If I could take that off the album, I would too, because I just want you to hear a whole new fresh shot. That's how I feel. I want everybody to hear a whole new fresh album something they ain't here. When they get it, they're like, WHOA, because I remember, you know, I'm a CD cassette tape. You know, I remember listening to ell Mannekin the cassette for the first time. You know, I'm one of those. So when I made music, I'm thinking hip hop heads. Well, they'll be older now, but they sit in the car, they're about to drive somewhere and they throw that music on. Well now they'll stream it, but I want them to hear it brand new. This is the intro, This is this, This is the that they're always spitting you, always talking about this. The girls got everything they want, The guys got everything they want, bars, beats, you know what I'm saying. Shout out to cooland Dre, Shout out the Street Runner, Shout out to Don Cannon, everybody that worked on the album. You know, I got a crazy white boy on the album, Tug of War. You know, he from UK, He from the projects in the UK outside with him, No, I love him a record, yes, So I see him on Instagram all the time. I hit him up and was like, Yo, I want to put you on that album. We got tied down on the album Babyface, Red Me Tone Sunshine.
Would you sign new artists? Now?
I'm done. It's just a lot, right, first of all, chances of an artist now or any time being loyal or close to none, And so you take somebody, all right, So God gives you don't know, if you know my story, I'm from the projects for real, from the real projects, sleeping on the floor because we ain't have a c it was too hot outside and the summer, sleep on the floor. If I got through, I wiped my ass when newspaper, I'm from there, right, So to have a miracle, God say you're blessed. We're gonna give you a chance. Look, you're famous, now, you got money, and you say, you know what, I'm gonna bring some people with me. I'm gonna bring some people out the hood with me, and I'm gonna give them an opportunity. These guys got nothing, they have no way of getting to death. Jam anybody, you give them a chance, then they become millionaires and they turn the immediately the cannons get like this. It goes from yo, lawyer, this for life, this this DoD and the cannons go at you and they said, you know, I'm a boss. Now, I don't want to be signed to you. I don't want to this this. I'm not talking about my experience. I'm talking about everybody's experience, and hip hop for me had left for bad taste. That's why I always say I could have signed Rick Ross, I could have signed pit Bull, I could have signed them in them. I could have. It was just at a time where I was just like, Yo, you know what, just do you? And I'm a hit maker, which is hard to do. You know what I'm saying. I watch Mogus give hits away to artists that turned around and return fires said, Yo, you never did nothing for me. You you ain't thising this. So it's like, yo, you know you think I'm dealing with that at this day and age. I'm not dealing with that now. If somebody, let's say Steve Stown't if somebody came with the super bag and said, yo, you could run this, I might run it. You know what I'm saying, you know, I never turned down a good bag, you know what I'm saying, That's what just what it's all about. But artists, no way.
This is just crazy because when even with your album title the world changed on me, and hear you say that. When I listen to your interviews, you always tell stories of times were like y'all had like the clicks like IRV gotty, like fifty cent gu and it like it seemed like everybody was together. But there is times that makes you be like, I don't even want to bring people with me because there was a lot of other stuff happening too.
Well, I'm just telling you my experience. Yeah, when you look at somebody you took from nothing and they become a millionaire and they popping and they talking crazy about you. She betrayal just the thinking were talking about mental health or betrayal from the smallest to the biggest. It's the worst feeling in the world, betrayal. And so when you give people the opportunity to become millionaires and you never did nothing for me, you just this that. I'm like, man, you couldn't even wash my shoes. You couldn't You couldn't wash my socks. You know what I'm saying. You can't wear my shoes, you can't wash my sock. You serious? This and then and that happens in the hip hop game. I don't want to feel that no more. So I'm like, you know, I'm good, let me just work, you know.
And also, you got your heart broke before Joe devastated.
A couple of times when you sit there and you're just like, wow, they made moves like that, and you know when when my whole thing is based on loyalty, My whole thing is based on you know, we better together, were stronger together, you know, and then you defect that they defected. This that shit is horrible to me. I'll tell you what hurts me. And I've seen it a million times in hip hop. Just it's just the way it is so for me to invest it. So a big pun, big punt, all right. So Fat Joe is I can't explain it to you now with who the young guys are, right, But you see French Montana put out a record Gangster Show. Then he made another move and put out Pop that with Drake Rick Ross this, so you see the evolution, right, So Fat Joe is on that projection as a rapper, one of the first Latino rappers that was going right. So I put out one album. I met Big One the last day of my second album. I put him on the album. Immediately I stopped my career. I was at my pop. I had the who shot you? Who think you think you talking to? With Foxy Brown and the Loud When I was on my projection turn Around Meat. This guy was blown away and said, let me stop my career.
What do you mean pun for people that don't in.
The bow dagga outside the bowdigga around my projects? See nobody. The world changed on me too at that time, Like nobody told me, Yo, You're a rap star now. So I'm stealing the projects every day, hanging out with them, thinking this is all I know. Right. So I live in Jersey Edgewater, but I'm coming to project every day. So I meet him at the boadiggas.
So is he big pun? At the time?
He's a big pun. He ain't super big pun. He ain't the chicken Big Mac, but you know.
The chicken.
Chicken Big Mac is crazy. That's made yo.
The chicken big You tasted one? No, oh my god, Big Mac is legend out here, man, Yo, you better try the chicken big ho.
Yo.
When you try the chicken big Mac better. I know I am, but somebody put me. We went to the store one day. I said, y'all want to be fat, so I get a guy one hundred dollars buy some unhealthy stuff, and they came back with that chicken Big Mac. I started eating my fingers, like, oh my god, this is illegal, yo, the chicken big Man. No, it's illegal, by the way, So I go. So in any case, we get with Steve Rifkin, my mentor. We signed Punt, and I use every juice of my projection on his album. You gotta understand they didn't even know him. So I gotta get why Cliff after he sold thirty million records with the Foojis to get and do it soon with Big Punt Classic Joe, the singer who had just sold six hundred thousand records first week. I gotta go to kit Darn Madsen Berr say I have an artist. I'm like, yo, you barely blew up like you an artist, and Joe shows up. So you use all these elements to help somebody else. Then they blow up and then you know, even though me and punk we never had an argument in our life. But you know, you see where that went after that? Were you just like you know what I'm saying, And did you see something you created, something you did something you did that you can't really maneuver the right way fat your own big pun stuff. It would have been already already movies out, episode, TV episodes, this, this, that, it would have been all lot if everything was right in the blessing. So that's part of like, you know what I'm saying. You look at that, you go, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying to me, I just stick to myself, work hard.
You got a phenomenal track record though, let me because without pun you don't get rimy.
You got the calids, the cool and Dre's Like you know, you got to.
Know I got the track yeah, Tony Sunshine, Like I think Tony's phenomenal, you know.
Yeah, Tony shuit have Blue. You know, he's the He's the only one. He's the only one that you know, I feel like I let down, Like even though I had Kelly writing the music, t Payne, these guys are the biggest songwriters in the world. It's just I don't think the world was ready to hear Tony at that time. You know, I'm a Spanish kid doing black music. It had been now, he'd have been disgusted. But he's still fly, and he's with us, and he's lawyer and he will always be with us. So that means whenever you see how big Joe's going and how big he's going, just no Tony Sunshine smiling too, you know what I mean? He with us, He he looks amazing. He's fly to death every day. You know, we've been to so many funerals now, I think that's the new club lift, because don't come in with a new fur every funeral room. Look, I'm like, yo, you're styling in the funerals, like what you're doing out here? Like you know, tone crazy, but I love tone.
I got.
I got two questions for you, Big pun. You said if you had own everything, there would have been stuff out. I know that was like a long dispute. It's all done now, but that's not ever. There's no way that stuff is going to happen. We're going to see any of that ever. Still at this.
Point, I don't think so. I don't think so, you know, because sometimes it's almost like you and the you're dealing with a guy. No matter how much you love the guy, he hurts you so so bad that you know there's always that element that if you open that door, you'll get hurt again. And so once you got that closure, you just like, I'm good, I'm alright, got you and.
Have you talked to everybody?
Nah? But I love IRV and I think about IRV and I pray for IRV every day because when we talk about loyalty and morals, you know, the guy to Camby when you know it was a time I really needed him. So I super love IRV. I'm actually a business partner with Chris in the basketball app and so we've been you know, he gets me to all these hood games, you know, because Chris got he's so passionate about street uh street ball, so that clash TV. You know, with partners, you know, and with IRV, I never ever once again. And I know I sound like a sucker every time his name comes up, because I do because I look at the interviews and I'd be like, damn, Joe, You're like a sucker when it comes to this guy. But it's just I love him so much, but I really meant no harm and take anything away from him. I was just defending the girl that I consider my sister, that I call my sister every day to this day. She hits me up every day. You know. The baby's beautiful, this and this and that. So it is what it is.
The third question, what's that? Because they were saying that is having another baby.
Is that happening?
Ah, I don't think so, but I wouldn't put it past it. That's the problem. I think I got lied to when I heard the information. Like you, I went straight to the first time. I don't know if I'm being lied to. You might think I got a big mouth and I'll say something, you know what I mean. You want to know what's going on. I got the breaking news. I don't have the breaking news, so what you know when they at I don't know if I got the correct answer.
We do season two of Joe Brow.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, we're doing it. We started getting like I think March shooting probably February March, and you know, TV, you know it's a serious thing. That's like, you know, you got to shout out to stars for supporting division, but you know, we gotta you know, you know, I like, I love what we did. Everything we do is positive, everything's uplifting the people. When you could take a guy like call It who came for nothing and do an interview in front of a G six five hundred to show little brown and black kids that everything's possible. When I see you stunt, I don't get jealous. I'm not that guy. I see young kids from Queens and all over the country seeing that you got it and they could get it. That's what this whole show is about, inspiration. So every now and then, you know, you gotta you know, these are different type of people, so you gotta pull them to the side like no, we're doing that, We're doing this like this, you know, and thank god they let me do it. But everything's about positivity. But you know, this next season, I'm fighting to put you know, everybody we got on there zyicons, Mary j Blind, met the Man.
So but.
I want to bring a little bit more Treeter icons on the show. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know when you get with TV said, I'm not not like that, but when you when you when you when you you know, when you bring you know, I want young dog on my show. I want you know, I want you know, I want to talk that, you know what I'm saying. And then it's like when you did with TV, It's like, yeah, they be like I didn't know that.
That's kind of what you was doing. You had that show where they had to come down into like that.
Look look like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Coca Vision. That's all title is free too. That's why I had six nine that time. You know what I'm saying. All I had everybody, but you could talk freely and do whatever. You know. TV is a different type of thing. But so far I've stood to everything I always said I would do. The TV show is Mavic Lebron, Fat, Joe, Black and Brown. I have a series coming out with the Terrrero Brothers, Dominican Julie and Jesse and Kenya Bearris Black and Brown. I went to Hollywood and most people let them, people do what they want with them. I can't do that.
That's the one based off your book. Uh, that's the one based off your book.
Yeah, you're the one based book. So but my thing is I stand by why I say, and I go out there and I do it, and you know me I've been praised and I've been let down, and all I know how to do is to keep moving, moving forward and keep going for the prize and going for the legacy. And we're pretty good at that.
That's Quesson for me, the most influential rapper in hip hop history. Who is that?
Why you asking me that?
Oh, I'll tell you, I.
Tell you, I tell you who. I think. I think it's Biggie Small's over lll over lf wow, because there's there's nobody like b I G. I mean, he changed the whole game. He turned this game, and like you had to be there and v to go to his shows, and the picket signs was outside and people were like, you know it was around that bad boy time. It was. It was an experience that I've never experienced before. Now my idol is cool, JH. Is he correct? Yes, he's correct. I think he should have just told me and let me say it, because that's what they mad at. They mad at when you say it yourself.
But I think he's changed the game. And every day.
Talking about my idol, you're talking about the wrong guy. I don't disagree with you. I think he is the most important rapper in the thing. But now if you asking me personally like we always love it, you're talking to the wrong Guyma sucker for J So, I know what you're talking about. But as a whole of hip hop, I never seen nothing like B I G. I'm just gonna keep.
It real with that album, with y'all that music, with that music that you're in big.
I don't know, man, I don't. I don't know. Nowadays they say it's cap. I don't know what to tell you. Man. All I know is I say shit, and all my shit is real.
Who got the music?
I don't know it never coming out? But when I say shit is real, I don't care who who whatever? You know what I'm saying, and I'm so What people got to understand is that I'm so accomplished. I have anthems, I have money, I'm a superstar. I have a great family, I have a disc I got whatever I want, I got a team. I ain't got the cap. When I talk, I mean it, and it's it'd be. You know, there's always something that's certified. I told a story on a million dollar away from games of It. But I don't even know if there's stylists to just say, cap cap cap, So I told the story simple something like that. That was many years ago. I told him My first show was in Camden, New Jersey. Kobe Cobe booked me for the show Flow Joe, I'm so poor. He puts me in a nice hotel. I stay Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. He had to come knock on the door and say, Yo, you don't live here, Joe, you gotta go. I'm like, yo, but these guys got toilet paper, they got nice TV with color like I don't want to leave, right, but I had to go. And so they put the clip up and I'm just seeing a hundred cap cap cap cap cap cap cap Kobe Kobe cole goes on his Instagram true story bom. It's the craziest thing. If I tell you that I'm the guy who walchestrated bone in Biggie Biggie, Bone in Biggie, I did it somebody he'll come cold side when I tell you stuff that you just can't possibly believe. If I tell you that Tupac was having trouble in the New Year York City jail, this Tupac should call, by the way to me. The realist rapper ever in the history of rap music. But he had a problem, and he called Fat Joe. I'm sorry it really happened. But I did not tell everybody think I tell every story. I did not tell a story. I got a story to tell, right, So I did not tell his story. And and moves out from the outsiders. One day he's getting interviewed and he's like, yo, Fat Joe never tells this story. But let me tell you what Tupac told me. He had problems. Fat Joe sent the Puerto Ricans that held him down. He was you know, everything I say is backed up. So this is a girl that I promised never to say this story, right, but him maybe, like three of my friends know, right. And so when I was a kid, I was ten years old. I'm just I'm gonna give you a real cap. Right, I'm ten years old. I'm in the house, minding my business in the projects, and I'm making some food. I don't know why. I don't know how to cook. So I got a machete. I hear a girl scream. I opened the door, and it's a girl I know from my building. She got a she's Jehovah witness. She has a dress on. She's covering up private parts like a movie. The apples, the oranges is on the floor, the bread, and it's a dude standing over it, like seven feet tall, fresh out of jail. He had a tank top, not even cut up shirt, cockies or something. I run down on the guy. I give it to him ten years old. Now I know, if you're a coward, you don't believe this story, you don't understand it. You might have called nine one one screamed, no, I gave it to him ten years old. Just a fat, little chubby kid. He runs around the corner. And in my projects, both sides have stairways to go down. He wasn't from there because he overran it, so now he's stuck in the corner holding his arm. I hit him on the other side. Oh, this guy's like he's a grown man, seven feet tall. He realizes, Oh, this is just a fat little kid tendents. He jumps at me. I jump, scared to death all the way back. He runs down the stairs, Thank god. But when I come back around, this girl was the most decent girl probably in my whole project. Right. She begged me because you know, she her family was so strict to not tell a story. So I never told a story. I was gonna tell a story in my book. But at my brother's funeral, she shows up. I haven't seen that in thirty years. And in the middle of I'm Rich, in the middle of the funerals, she says, Joey saved my life. He saved my life. A guy was trying to rape me. This that Joey came out with the machetey my life. Now, I'll be like, sometimes I say stories that I think I'm capping.
No, I believe the story. I just think when you say he's seven feet tall, I'm like, okay, this.
Guy's let me tell you. There's a distinctive look if you're from the hood of a guy who just came out of jail, and always he just came out of jail. I don't know his story. He was fresh, first day out of jail. Probably he look he's raping the girl immediately, right. So when I hear it, I'm like, I got to stop her. I'm like, yo, Rich, this story, Yo, I told you. But I never told a story because she asked me not to tell a sir, I put it in my book.
Book is a classic by the way, no, no, no.
I put it in my book at Shah he ain't read. And last minute I said, you know what, because I haven't seen her in thirty some years and forty years, I said, you know what, she might be alive with a family and I'm violate, So I took it out the book. She comes in the funeral, Miss Ruby Joey saved my life. I said, huh, she's taking And then the guys from my building, because you know, my whole projects was with me at the funeral. A. J. Mark Lowe, thank everybody round Themcdonald everybody who came out, the whole hood. They're like, y'all, we ain't never hear this story. They from my building. They was like, yo, we never heard it. I was like.
Machete, So yeah, your other life.
Let's not start that because I got a little beef. Uh in the beef with my crew because I said on the interview that our trade yay yo, people were in their feelings.
You know what did you mean by that?
Because he was Richard every time that I don't mean it.
I don't mean to take it back.
I took you back, but you know, rich the most lowy you but you know I was just trying to explain how that guy is to his man nine train Rich. You know rich guy. You know Rich got all the secrets everything, you know saying Rich something else. You know what I'm saying. You don't give me credit for nothing, but you know, well the album is when we talked about Rich play, I feel like with jay Z and New York. He says, I made you hot, Old g Wan Like, I'm like, you're rich, I made you hi. He's like, I've been the man.
You know, Rich know everybody and everything that goes on. Everything.
Listen, what Rich is is a legend, not only in the streets in New York, but in Miami. He saved so many kids. How many players you sent to the NFL coaching.
Twelve.
I'm in Miami because a rich player. He coached the whole hood. One day he calls me. He's like, mother, he's flipping. I'm in like Vegas at the show. He's like, I'm going to your house now. I said, what happened? He said, Ryan is throwing the party. The whole hood is in your house, the whole football team. I'm like, what, everybody's headed to your house, the whole county, city, he gets over there, they all running jumping over the coach Rich. They jumping over the gate, running out my house. You know what I'm saying, So Rich is really you know, you know, you come on this earth once, right, and it ain't Yeah, it's cool to dress, fly, have fly stuff. It's about how you help the people. And so what I love the most about Rich is that he changed. These people live there in the NFL, they still call them coach Rich. This this that now, same thing with us. We just constantly helping people. You would not believe how many people we help every day or every week. Every day, they got a funeral every day. Somebody's house gets burnt down every day. This this, this is for some reason, they know how to find me. Yo Joe. You know miss such and such she passed away. I'm not exist. I might have paid one hundred funerals, maybe even more in my hood. And so we do this all the time. You know, Thanksgiving we get five thousand families groceries. We're not giving them a turkey. What's good is a turkey? If you ain't got the mash, you ain't got the rice, you ain't got the mac and cheese, you ain't got the produce. No, we give everything. You know, shout out the Crisdell's shop, right, everybody go yad And so you know, we just constantly give back to our community. And I love rich for that. And anybody who does that in the smallest to the biggest scale, that's what. Uh. It gets you the less, the least likes. But it's quality over quantity. But when I see that, that's what touches my heart. That's what motivates me. When I see Queen the hall im giving out toys to all them kids. By the way, if you don't know, I know, I know. I'm saying. I see Jim Jones doing coat drives, by the way, Jim, If you don't know, I know. And I watch everybody a big you out in.
What's big U from concordat all?
Right, we ain't got to say the gang. We need to say the hood. Oh that's the name of it. Rolling sixties and constantly giving stuff back. Anybody who's giving out, who's giving back to the people. I'm watching you. I love it, you know you. And guess what, I ain't the only one watching you. People who think like minded, they're watching you. When we gave two million dollars to the African Muslims in the Bronx. Seventeen of them died in the fire. We raised two million dollars. Homeboy from Twitter, Jack, I don't know who the hell Jack? Kids hit me up yo, Jack. Jack wants to throw nare. I'm like, who the hell is Jack? They're like, you know the guy who owns Twitter, he gave a big check. There's people like minded. The love when you're giving back to the community. I mean, what's it about if you didn't show at the end of the day, If you don't get back to your hood, you don't change lives, you don't motivate people, you don't inspire people.
I was at the Wasted, I was at the Gumbo wedding and mel I don't know if you remember this. Melbourne introduced me to you and she talked to me for thirty minutes about that with you guys.
She was like, I don't know if you know.
I know you work in media and you do the stories, but this is what you should be talking about. And all she talked about was what you guys do, and like, you know, cause she does a lot of stuff too, and she yeah, I can call him, no problem, He's always around like anything. I need both of them. And I was like, Oh, that's like fire because you hear it and like the clicks with like the big stuff, but you don't hear it like the way she was telling me. I was like, Oh, that's dope.
Like he's really rich, always into that Fiene.
We available for the community at all time, black brown, if you're white and you Paul will feed you to We'll do whatever. We don't care you know what I'm saying. So you know this is a non discriminational. We hand it out to everybody.
Let's play something up the album so joke and keep getting this money so you can keep helping the community.
Please stream you might as well just play the baby fat Yeah, I got you do it and you could throw to us if you can sneak another one in.
God bat you.
The album comes out this Friday, make sure you get it, and it's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, wake that ass up.
In the morning.
Breakfast Club.
