Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

Everybody is the j Envy Jesse Hilarious, Charlamagne to God. We are the Breakfast Club. Justice on maternity leave. Laura la Ross is feeling in and we got a special guest in the building. Comptence, finest ladies and gentlemen, Demal de Rose and welcome man.

Everybody is the j Envy Jesse Hilarious, Charlamagne to God. We are the Breakfast Club. Justice on maternity leave. Laura la Ross is feeling in and we got a special guest in the building. Comptence, finest ladies and gentlemen, Demal de Rose and welcome man.

It's honor man, my brother doing good. How you doing?

It's honor man, my brother doing good. How you doing?

And blessed black and hoghly favored man. You new book out above the Noise, My Story of Chasing Calm.

And blessed black and hoghly favored man. You new book out above the Noise, My Story of Chasing Calm.

I love that title.

I love that title.

When I hear that title, I know a man that's doing the work on himself.

When I hear that title, I know a man that's doing the work on himself.

Man, trying. Man, it's definitely a challenge, something that's not easy. Take time, it's patience. Gotta give yourself grace. You know, we go through a lot of stuff. You know that we we sweep under the rug, and a lot of times by the time we figured it out, we we deep in. And it takes a lot of work to try to figure that out. So, you know, just trying to expire, get the message out there, and just try to break the stigma. More than more than anything, I.

Man, trying. Man, it's definitely a challenge, something that's not easy. Take time, it's patience. Gotta give yourself grace. You know, we go through a lot of stuff. You know that we we sweep under the rug, and a lot of times by the time we figured it out, we we deep in. And it takes a lot of work to try to figure that out. So, you know, just trying to expire, get the message out there, and just try to break the stigma. More than more than anything, I.

Love what you said in The New York Times about how more athletes need to open up about their mental health and basically you said the need to show their Clark Kent side.

Love what you said in The New York Times about how more athletes need to open up about their mental health and basically you said the need to show their Clark Kent side.

Yeah, yeah, man, everybody look at us like we're just superhero so much.

Yeah, yeah, man, everybody look at us like we're just superhero so much.

Without doubt, I'll dunk on you.

Without doubt, I'll dunk on you.

You can't even test the net, can't take you serious.

You can't even test the net, can't take you serious.

And it's definitely, you know, I think for me, you know, I look at it. We fall in love with a lot of superheroes because who they you know, who they are at night? You know, we we never appreciate the person before they put on the mask, and a lot of times we carry that mask more than anything, you know, even me to this day. That's one thing I'm trying to break. You know. It's tough when you gotta you gotta kind of be two different people, you know, and sometimes you forget the most important person at times and put yourself in it in a deep depression at times, and it's tough to get out of.

And it's definitely, you know, I think for me, you know, I look at it. We fall in love with a lot of superheroes because who they you know, who they are at night? You know, we we never appreciate the person before they put on the mask, and a lot of times we carry that mask more than anything, you know, even me to this day. That's one thing I'm trying to break. You know. It's tough when you gotta you gotta kind of be two different people, you know, and sometimes you forget the most important person at times and put yourself in it in a deep depression at times, and it's tough to get out of.

I want to I want to know your journey when it came to the NBA, right because growing up as a kid, there wasn't as many leagues where it was training. We just kids played in the park and the good kid with the high school played on a high school team, playing in college. But now it seems like everything is foreseen as training, you gotta train, train six days a week, Lamar Olderman. In all those days to play park, they went to rut and play ball and kept the moving. So what was your journey getting too the league? And explain to some of the kids out there who have that dream how difficult it was to get there.

I want to I want to know your journey when it came to the NBA, right because growing up as a kid, there wasn't as many leagues where it was training. We just kids played in the park and the good kid with the high school played on a high school team, playing in college. But now it seems like everything is foreseen as training, you gotta train, train six days a week, Lamar Olderman. In all those days to play park, they went to rut and play ball and kept the moving. So what was your journey getting too the league? And explain to some of the kids out there who have that dream how difficult it was to get there.

First of all, like you said, like growing up, like we didn't know nothing about training. It was all like if I go to the play at the park from sun up to sundown, that's what I'm gonna be able to do. You know, That's what I'm gonna do. It's in the backyard, if it's making a crate playing basketball, Like my aspiration was always trying to escape from my reality with sports, you know what I mean, whether we played football in the streets, whatever, whatever it may be. You know, we use sports as a gateway, you know, for peace. And for a long time, you don't even consider like working out. You just want to hoop, you know. So as you get older, it becomes more difficult when you got to take those necessary steps to you know, evolve into a true basketball So it's definitely a long road, you know, and especially now, I can't even imagine what social media and so much stuff that's in front of these kids. Now you basically famous by the time you know, you in middle school, you know, So it's definitely difficult these days, more more so than ever. When before it just used to be about the game.

First of all, like you said, like growing up, like we didn't know nothing about training. It was all like if I go to the play at the park from sun up to sundown, that's what I'm gonna be able to do. You know, That's what I'm gonna do. It's in the backyard, if it's making a crate playing basketball, Like my aspiration was always trying to escape from my reality with sports, you know what I mean, whether we played football in the streets, whatever, whatever it may be. You know, we use sports as a gateway, you know, for peace. And for a long time, you don't even consider like working out. You just want to hoop, you know. So as you get older, it becomes more difficult when you got to take those necessary steps to you know, evolve into a true basketball So it's definitely a long road, you know, and especially now, I can't even imagine what social media and so much stuff that's in front of these kids. Now you basically famous by the time you know, you in middle school, you know, So it's definitely difficult these days, more more so than ever. When before it just used to be about the game.

When did you realize you were you were that good to make it to the league. Because as a kid, everybody thinks they Jordan, everybody thinks they Kobe, everybody thinks they every player that they ever imagined. When did you know, like, oh, I got a shot.

When did you realize you were you were that good to make it to the league. Because as a kid, everybody thinks they Jordan, everybody thinks they Kobe, everybody thinks they every player that they ever imagined. When did you know, like, oh, I got a shot.

When it was a true real life belief.

When it was a true real life belief.

Probably by the time I was probably like in the nineteenth grade, when it was like, all right, if I keep working at this, I maybe I still maybe have a chance. But for me, everything was still felt so far fetched because you know, you didn't know nothing about college. I didn't have nobody in my family go d one, So even just going to college was a big thing, like, man, I gotta at least make it to college, like damn the league. College was more so the the big obstacle for me to make it to there. So by the time my senior year, I know I was going to SC I knew, I know it was a chance for after that for me to go pro for sure.

Probably by the time I was probably like in the nineteenth grade, when it was like, all right, if I keep working at this, I maybe I still maybe have a chance. But for me, everything was still felt so far fetched because you know, you didn't know nothing about college. I didn't have nobody in my family go d one, So even just going to college was a big thing, like, man, I gotta at least make it to college, like damn the league. College was more so the the big obstacle for me to make it to there. So by the time my senior year, I know I was going to SC I knew, I know it was a chance for after that for me to go pro for sure.

What about your father, because I love seeing black men celebrate their fathers. And you dedicated the book to your father, Frank de Rosen. What was some of the values he contributed, you know.

What about your father, because I love seeing black men celebrate their fathers. And you dedicated the book to your father, Frank de Rosen. What was some of the values he contributed, you know.

And still to your to your upbringing, not just as a man, more than anything, you know, he taught me the art of hard working, resiliency, being a man more so than anything. And one thing growing up that he always, you know, preached to me that you know, we was growing up in a cruel society. So he prepared me on on how to deal with that more so than anything, how to deal with white folks. Yeah, just period. My dad was from the country. He was from the South so Vdelia. It's a small in Louisiana, a small, small, small town. Remember when I was a kid, he first took me there. He showed me cotton fields and all this stuff. It was it was crazy. They still boiled their water to take baths, you know what I mean. So that was real humbling for me at a young age, especially being from Compton, going to go see the you know, the countryside of my dad, but he showed me just the importance of hard work, sticking to your word, and you know, everything that he went through, he never complained.

And still to your to your upbringing, not just as a man, more than anything, you know, he taught me the art of hard working, resiliency, being a man more so than anything. And one thing growing up that he always, you know, preached to me that you know, we was growing up in a cruel society. So he prepared me on on how to deal with that more so than anything, how to deal with white folks. Yeah, just period. My dad was from the country. He was from the South so Vdelia. It's a small in Louisiana, a small, small, small town. Remember when I was a kid, he first took me there. He showed me cotton fields and all this stuff. It was it was crazy. They still boiled their water to take baths, you know what I mean. So that was real humbling for me at a young age, especially being from Compton, going to go see the you know, the countryside of my dad, but he showed me just the importance of hard work, sticking to your word, and you know, everything that he went through, he never complained.

Is your dad one of the old g's that brought them horses to Compton? That's the good No, he didn't.

Is your dad one of the old g's that brought them horses to Compton? That's the good No, he didn't.

What was the Compton like that you grew up in.

What was the Compton like that you grew up in.

I mean in the time, I thought it was a norm, you know, of being around you know, such an aggressive nature of you know, gangs and everything because it was so it was so family oriented. You know, I grew up during the time, like you know, it still was those kind of old school rules where you know, the guys in the neighborhood are gonna protect you to stay away from all the you know, the bullshit that was going on. And that was one thing that definitely helped me. You know, even though it was aggressive, you had to deal with a lot of obstacles, but you know, it was a lot of people that looked out for me more so than anything, to keep keep you on the right track.

I mean in the time, I thought it was a norm, you know, of being around you know, such an aggressive nature of you know, gangs and everything because it was so it was so family oriented. You know, I grew up during the time, like you know, it still was those kind of old school rules where you know, the guys in the neighborhood are gonna protect you to stay away from all the you know, the bullshit that was going on. And that was one thing that definitely helped me. You know, even though it was aggressive, you had to deal with a lot of obstacles, but you know, it was a lot of people that looked out for me more so than anything, to keep keep you on the right track.

Coming from Compton. I know.

Coming from Compton. I know.

In twenty eighteen is when you sent out the tweet, the depression get the Best of Me tweet that kind of sparked all of the conversation and.

In twenty eighteen is when you sent out the tweet, the depression get the Best of Me tweet that kind of sparked all of the conversation and.

I know you were back in LA at the time.

I know you were back in LA at the time.

Do you think or did you feel like was it like survivors remorse because you're so connected to home and family.

Do you think or did you feel like was it like survivors remorse because you're so connected to home and family.

Now you're back and you're at the height of your career, Like.

Now you're back and you're at the height of your career, Like.

Yeah, I think for me, that's when everything hit the wall for me because my career was, you know, taking off at a at a peak that I never would imagine. You know, I'm coming back home to LA being a starter for the All Star team, and you know, all I cared about in that moment was get home and see my kids, when to see my daughters. I didn't care about nothing else. But it's like as soon as I got to LA, it's everybody asked for something, needing something, wanting tickets, wanted to do this. Everybody had this pre notion of like I felt like I was getting plotted on in a sense, you know what I mean, when at the end of the day, I just want to go hug my kids. I want to do what my kids want to do. But it's like the overwhelming feeling of I see myself in all these hotel downtown LA. It was just a lot and it kind of put a lot of stuff in perspective for me, and I kind of just you know, I hit a wall at that point.

Yeah, I think for me, that's when everything hit the wall for me because my career was, you know, taking off at a at a peak that I never would imagine. You know, I'm coming back home to LA being a starter for the All Star team, and you know, all I cared about in that moment was get home and see my kids, when to see my daughters. I didn't care about nothing else. But it's like as soon as I got to LA, it's everybody asked for something, needing something, wanting tickets, wanted to do this. Everybody had this pre notion of like I felt like I was getting plotted on in a sense, you know what I mean, when at the end of the day, I just want to go hug my kids. I want to do what my kids want to do. But it's like the overwhelming feeling of I see myself in all these hotel downtown LA. It was just a lot and it kind of put a lot of stuff in perspective for me, and I kind of just you know, I hit a wall at that point.

Was Toronto a better place for you because you're away from everybody that you grew up with? And was that a mistake? Leaving Toronto?

Was Toronto a better place for you because you're away from everybody that you grew up with? And was that a mistake? Leaving Toronto?

Toronto was the best thing that happened for me, because at that time, even when I was at s C, like, if I had a good day or a bad day, I was still going to Compton, like still going to stay at my mama house in Compton. I'm still around the same type of environment. So I really wasn't, you know, evolving in a way I needed to, you know, I still ran back to what I was comfortable with. So when I left s SE got drafted, you know, I go to a whole nother country, Toronto.

Toronto was the best thing that happened for me, because at that time, even when I was at s C, like, if I had a good day or a bad day, I was still going to Compton, like still going to stay at my mama house in Compton. I'm still around the same type of environment. So I really wasn't, you know, evolving in a way I needed to, you know, I still ran back to what I was comfortable with. So when I left s SE got drafted, you know, I go to a whole nother country, Toronto.

Like hell, A lot of beautiful women in Toronto. It's a beautiful place. Love like love it a lot of beautiful women.

Like hell, A lot of beautiful women in Toronto. It's a beautiful place. Love like love it a lot of beautiful women.

He heard.

He heard.

It definitely is, like it's it's so wild because I didn't realize how much I needed to be away from home, like and it was to the point to where like nobody in my family had a passport. One of my cousins would go no like, so I was there by myself. So it forced me to kind of grow up in a way to help me mature in a in a very professional way where I paid attention to nothing but working on my craft, how to be the best player, best individual, listening to all the ogs. Like, I didn't have no outside distraction because I can't have the homies come up. I can't have had a fam come up. Nobody got no damn passport, like, and it wasn't easy getting a passport. So it was something that that definitely was a necessity in my career at that point, and a lot of a lot of things that I learned from my time being away from home. Then I still carry to this day just understanding solitude and being able to being myself.

It definitely is, like it's it's so wild because I didn't realize how much I needed to be away from home, like and it was to the point to where like nobody in my family had a passport. One of my cousins would go no like, so I was there by myself. So it forced me to kind of grow up in a way to help me mature in a in a very professional way where I paid attention to nothing but working on my craft, how to be the best player, best individual, listening to all the ogs. Like, I didn't have no outside distraction because I can't have the homies come up. I can't have had a fam come up. Nobody got no damn passport, like, and it wasn't easy getting a passport. So it was something that that definitely was a necessity in my career at that point, and a lot of a lot of things that I learned from my time being away from home. Then I still carry to this day just understanding solitude and being able to being myself.

But that's the first time you felt the come yeah.

But that's the first time you felt the come yeah.

Yeah, unknowingly too, you know what I mean, Because it wasn't no distraction. I had no choice but to be to myself. And with that, you know, shitting now you got to figure out, you know, how to how to do laundry, how to how to what to eat, like so much stuff when before you know, I'm gonna just go to moms, man'na have moms make me something to eat this this So it definitely was a calm. Like I said, even to this point, that make it easier for me when I need those moments to be alone, Like it's easy to do.

Yeah, unknowingly too, you know what I mean, Because it wasn't no distraction. I had no choice but to be to myself. And with that, you know, shitting now you got to figure out, you know, how to how to do laundry, how to how to what to eat, like so much stuff when before you know, I'm gonna just go to moms, man'na have moms make me something to eat this this So it definitely was a calm. Like I said, even to this point, that make it easier for me when I need those moments to be alone, Like it's easy to do.

The decision to leave Toronto, why was that?

The decision to leave Toronto, why was that?

That was tough? That was tough because at that point, you know, I was nine years in. It was the only place I ever knew, the only place I you know, wanted to stay invested so much there. You know, I grew there. I was nineteen when I got drafted. You know, I had two kids up to that point, so I became a father. Like just was a lot going on. You never thought in your mind that you were leaving a place that you know, you had so much success in. So when that happened, you know, it took a hit. But you know, looking back on it, I'm glad you know it happened because that's another point in my life that that was needed for me to bro much more than I ever could imagine.

That was tough? That was tough because at that point, you know, I was nine years in. It was the only place I ever knew, the only place I you know, wanted to stay invested so much there. You know, I grew there. I was nineteen when I got drafted. You know, I had two kids up to that point, so I became a father. Like just was a lot going on. You never thought in your mind that you were leaving a place that you know, you had so much success in. So when that happened, you know, it took a hit. But you know, looking back on it, I'm glad you know it happened because that's another point in my life that that was needed for me to bro much more than I ever could imagine.

And you left Toronto and you went to Chicago. I went to San Antonio, San Antonio and then Chicago. Cago was there was the rumors of you going to l a ever real.

And you left Toronto and you went to Chicago. I went to San Antonio, San Antonio and then Chicago. Cago was there was the rumors of you going to l a ever real.

Yeah, that was one one with Lebron.

Yeah, that was one one with Lebron.

Yeah, how close did it get?

Yeah, how close did it get?

It was like it was it was basically like a done deal at one point. And I remember waking up and I remember leaving LA because I just knew, like man, free agency starting, I'm about to sign with the Lakers is about to be a fucking ship show, like you know what I mean. So I took a vacation, got away with the I think I went to Cabo or something, and you know, I look on Twitter. They with a different route. I was like, I thought I thought it was a done deal.

It was like it was it was basically like a done deal at one point. And I remember waking up and I remember leaving LA because I just knew, like man, free agency starting, I'm about to sign with the Lakers is about to be a fucking ship show, like you know what I mean. So I took a vacation, got away with the I think I went to Cabo or something, and you know, I look on Twitter. They with a different route. I was like, I thought I thought it was a done deal.

You found out from Twitter.

You found out from Twitter.

Yeah, the Lakers changed that, you know, changed their mind.

Yeah, the Lakers changed that, you know, changed their mind.

Is that normally how that works?

Is that normally how that works?

Like youtimes? You know you can't you know, thank so.

Like youtimes? You know you can't you know, thank so.

You and Cabo and like, so what happens? How do you feel?

You and Cabo and like, so what happens? How do you feel?

What?

What?

Who do you call? Like what?

Who do you call? Like what?

What's crazy? You don't call nobody. You just basically, like, you know, figure out your next move, you know, because just because some probably could be a thought or word agreement don't necessarily mean you know, it's it's setting stone, you know. So they chose to go a different direction, and that's that's when I went to Chicago. So, but before Chicago, it was a good chance I was gonna be a leged.

What's crazy? You don't call nobody. You just basically, like, you know, figure out your next move, you know, because just because some probably could be a thought or word agreement don't necessarily mean you know, it's it's setting stone, you know. So they chose to go a different direction, and that's that's when I went to Chicago. So, but before Chicago, it was a good chance I was gonna be a leged.

I always wonder how did that make players feel when they look on Twitter and see that they've just been shipped somewhere, because it's almost like you're not even humans, Yeah, just a sproduct.

I always wonder how did that make players feel when they look on Twitter and see that they've just been shipped somewhere, because it's almost like you're not even humans, Yeah, just a sproduct.

And that's another thing I talked to a lot of guys about that. It's a lot of players in our league that that that kills they confidence, They don't understand it, and it puts them in aspiring like downhill like emotion that they can't get out of. And a lot of times you will see a lot of these guys that you know, they they they good players, and that one our school hit, they never the same because a lot of a lot of guys can't bounce back from it from a mental aspect, expectations set on them. They feel like they didn't reach it. Now they feel less than they they they It's a lot that goes into it that gets overlooked. You know, I understand that it's a business, but a lot of times guys feel a certain type of way when that do happen, and a lot of times it's hard to bounce back from it.

And that's another thing I talked to a lot of guys about that. It's a lot of players in our league that that that kills they confidence, They don't understand it, and it puts them in aspiring like downhill like emotion that they can't get out of. And a lot of times you will see a lot of these guys that you know, they they they good players, and that one our school hit, they never the same because a lot of a lot of guys can't bounce back from it from a mental aspect, expectations set on them. They feel like they didn't reach it. Now they feel less than they they they It's a lot that goes into it that gets overlooked. You know, I understand that it's a business, but a lot of times guys feel a certain type of way when that do happen, and a lot of times it's hard to bounce back from it.

That's why I never get mad at players when they make their own decisions exactly, and people are always mad at them. And you know, you see people giving Lebron flack all the time for doing what he does. But how could you be mad at him when on the other side, I want to do the same thing.

That's why I never get mad at players when they make their own decisions exactly, and people are always mad at them. And you know, you see people giving Lebron flack all the time for doing what he does. But how could you be mad at him when on the other side, I want to do the same thing.

Yeah, do the same thing. That's the tough part where, you know, I always tell guys my whole career, I always tell guys, man, you make the best decision for you, you know what I mean. It's been times I play with guys like, I know, if you come back like we could be we could, we could even be better next year. But you got to make the best decision for you. I always tell guys do that.

Yeah, do the same thing. That's the tough part where, you know, I always tell guys my whole career, I always tell guys, man, you make the best decision for you, you know what I mean. It's been times I play with guys like, I know, if you come back like we could be we could, we could even be better next year. But you got to make the best decision for you. I always tell guys do that.

So what made you choose to play for the Kings?

So what made you choose to play for the Kings?

Be honest. The opportunity to compete the win was there. On the other side of it, obviously, the financial part to be still be able to, you know, feel like you want to still receive what you work, you know what I mean.

Be honest. The opportunity to compete the win was there. On the other side of it, obviously, the financial part to be still be able to, you know, feel like you want to still receive what you work, you know what I mean.

Like, let me look that contract up.

Like, let me look that contract up.

He's like a bird over there, a bird pull it overt.

He's like a bird over there, a bird pull it overt.

Let me see, I know he got this is sixteen year in the.

Let me see, I know he got this is sixteen year in the.

League too, sixteen Yeah, what's the contract?

League too, sixteen Yeah, what's the contract?

Shall I mean?

Shall I mean?

Hold on three year deal?

Hold on three year deal?

Work up to seventy six point seven million, including three million and unlikely bonuses.

Work up to seventy six point seven million, including three million and unlikely bonuses.

Congratulations appreciates you affreciate it.

Congratulations appreciates you affreciate it.

You see yourself going like twenty.

You see yourself going like twenty.

Mentally or physically both both.

Mentally or physically both both.

I would answer physically first.

I would answer physically first.

And then do it physically for sure, you know, I definitely could do it. I take care of myself. I don't do nothing. I don't go out, don't drink. I just either be my kids. I'll be chilling like I don't do nothing. So physically for sure, Mentally that's the tough part because you know, kids getting older, you know, missing so much stuff from the kids that that becomes more of a priority, more so than anything, like you know, I hate you know, my daughter asked me if I'm gonna be at a dance they having them, I'm on the road. I can't make it, you know what I mean. That'd be the tough part. So, you know, seeing them get older and missing a lot of stuff, that makes it harder on me to, you know, say, let me go for twenty.

And then do it physically for sure, you know, I definitely could do it. I take care of myself. I don't do nothing. I don't go out, don't drink. I just either be my kids. I'll be chilling like I don't do nothing. So physically for sure, Mentally that's the tough part because you know, kids getting older, you know, missing so much stuff from the kids that that becomes more of a priority, more so than anything, like you know, I hate you know, my daughter asked me if I'm gonna be at a dance they having them, I'm on the road. I can't make it, you know what I mean. That'd be the tough part. So, you know, seeing them get older and missing a lot of stuff, that makes it harder on me to, you know, say, let me go for twenty.

Why did you you know, leave the spurs? Because you know, Greg Papa vis he writes the Ford in your book, I saw you. I forgot what I saw you telling the story about how I think it was after your father passed, he came to see me with y'all just kicked it for.

Why did you you know, leave the spurs? Because you know, Greg Papa vis he writes the Ford in your book, I saw you. I forgot what I saw you telling the story about how I think it was after your father passed, he came to see me with y'all just kicked it for.

Like some hours.

Like some hours.

Yeah, and like like why I leave that type of environment?

Yeah, and like like why I leave that type of environment?

You know, it's crazy, Like Pop's such a real dude, because even in that point, like he just wanted me to be able to go somewhere to win and kind of you know, because the team was going a different route. It was kind of going younger. And you know, he just told me my last year in San Antonio, wherever you choose to go, I'm gonna make sure it happens, you know. And like that's why I speak so highly at Papa, even like you know, Pop text me last night, like just randomly, like you know, like the most Pop of this message you could always get. You know, I love him, Pop text me, But Pop, you know, he was the one that come to me saying, like, you know, go somewhere where you could go be happy and be yourself because we going a different route here with the team. You know, so Papa will.

You know, it's crazy, Like Pop's such a real dude, because even in that point, like he just wanted me to be able to go somewhere to win and kind of you know, because the team was going a different route. It was kind of going younger. And you know, he just told me my last year in San Antonio, wherever you choose to go, I'm gonna make sure it happens, you know. And like that's why I speak so highly at Papa, even like you know, Pop text me last night, like just randomly, like you know, like the most Pop of this message you could always get. You know, I love him, Pop text me, But Pop, you know, he was the one that come to me saying, like, you know, go somewhere where you could go be happy and be yourself because we going a different route here with the team. You know, so Papa will.

Do for that will makes them such a special coach.

Do for that will makes them such a special coach.

It's not about basketball, you know, It's been I always tell a lot of guys around the League, like you think it's basketball, but it's been so many days when Pop, we will come in, we think we're about to watch film on the game previously or something, and he'll sit us down and we'll watch a whole show about penguins, right, and you will be lost in a moment, but you also will watching and realize why he have us watching it, because how penguins come together and sacrifice during certain seasons, of how the males come together take care of the eggs while the female go out and hunt for six months. It's like a deeper meaning that he puts you in front of to show you, like humidity from a a different level, you know what I mean. And maybe times where you lose two games in a row, everybody mad complaining and he'll come in and show clips from a third world country of kids training at fourteen years old playing to be in an army, and you know he actually he'll tell you act yourself, like what is it really to complain about? You get paid millions, like you get to do what you want to do. It's people out there suffering from real things, you know. So he put a lot of stuff in perspective, and he know how to get the most out of his players more than anything.

It's not about basketball, you know, It's been I always tell a lot of guys around the League, like you think it's basketball, but it's been so many days when Pop, we will come in, we think we're about to watch film on the game previously or something, and he'll sit us down and we'll watch a whole show about penguins, right, and you will be lost in a moment, but you also will watching and realize why he have us watching it, because how penguins come together and sacrifice during certain seasons, of how the males come together take care of the eggs while the female go out and hunt for six months. It's like a deeper meaning that he puts you in front of to show you, like humidity from a a different level, you know what I mean. And maybe times where you lose two games in a row, everybody mad complaining and he'll come in and show clips from a third world country of kids training at fourteen years old playing to be in an army, and you know he actually he'll tell you act yourself, like what is it really to complain about? You get paid millions, like you get to do what you want to do. It's people out there suffering from real things, you know. So he put a lot of stuff in perspective, and he know how to get the most out of his players more than anything.

When you all watch the Penguin Doctor, it's so that they have same sex behavior because a lot of times they say same sex behavior in penguins has been deserved in zews.

When you all watch the Penguin Doctor, it's so that they have same sex behavior because a lot of times they say same sex behavior in penguins has been deserved in zews.

But it's not clear if it's common in the wild.

But it's not clear if it's common in the wild.

Nah. No, I ain't get that. I ain't get that.

Nah. No, I ain't get that. I ain't get that.

So let me ask you about that.

So let me ask you about that.

That's true, But that's true, they'll look it up.

That's true, But that's true, they'll look it up.

Lem Okay, Now let me ask you about your pops. You said you said, I knew my dad loved me, and he was larger than life to me. But he was the only person that you were scared of. Oh my god, And I know for my fact, and that's say for me growing up. I'm sure I said I was scared of my dad growing up to I'm sure you give me too, Like my dad used to say that word too in the nineties. But how would you as as a parent. Are you the same way with your kids?

Lem Okay, Now let me ask you about your pops. You said you said, I knew my dad loved me, and he was larger than life to me. But he was the only person that you were scared of. Oh my god, And I know for my fact, and that's say for me growing up. I'm sure I said I was scared of my dad growing up to I'm sure you give me too, Like my dad used to say that word too in the nineties. But how would you as as a parent. Are you the same way with your kids?

Uh? No, because the fear he put in me. I always tell myself, I didn't want to be like that to my kids.

Uh? No, because the fear he put in me. I always tell myself, I didn't want to be like that to my kids.

But it kept you straight, but it kept me straight.

But it kept you straight, but it kept me straight.

But I also grew up in the streets. My kids don't. That's true, know nothing about the streets. So I approached them more so with love and patience and more of an understanding when before, like you know, my my parents parent me in a sense of survival. It was always it was always a thing my mom always usually told me, when you walk out that door, make sure I don't care what you do, you walk back in this house, but every time you come back in. So with that, it gave me a survival instinct. I understand, like, no matter what I gotta, I gotta make sure I make it back to the house. You know what I mean. Because it was tough.

But I also grew up in the streets. My kids don't. That's true, know nothing about the streets. So I approached them more so with love and patience and more of an understanding when before, like you know, my my parents parent me in a sense of survival. It was always it was always a thing my mom always usually told me, when you walk out that door, make sure I don't care what you do, you walk back in this house, but every time you come back in. So with that, it gave me a survival instinct. I understand, like, no matter what I gotta, I gotta make sure I make it back to the house. You know what I mean. Because it was tough.

So you know, my kids, but did you realize that because you know, as a kid, you think your dad's is being hard on you, and you like, I hate him. But then when you started getting a little older, you start having kids, you understand.

So you know, my kids, but did you realize that because you know, as a kid, you think your dad's is being hard on you, and you like, I hate him. But then when you started getting a little older, you start having kids, you understand.

Oh yeah, you understand so much. Even to this day, to this to this moment, I still have moments where I fully understand. While my parents did a lot of stuff that they did, you know, And but you know, when it comes to like that tough love, I don't think it's necessarily necessary, like it's like it was with my dad For me, especially growing up and confident.

Oh yeah, you understand so much. Even to this day, to this to this moment, I still have moments where I fully understand. While my parents did a lot of stuff that they did, you know, And but you know, when it comes to like that tough love, I don't think it's necessarily necessary, like it's like it was with my dad For me, especially growing up and confident.

You know what it's dressing.

You know what it's dressing.

I saw you say in the book that you were afraid to have a son of your own because you didn't feel that you could deliver the same brand of tough love that he did.

I saw you say in the book that you were afraid to have a son of your own because you didn't feel that you could deliver the same brand of tough love that he did.

And two things that I learned in therapy.

And two things that I learned in therapy.

Number one, I felt like my dad used to discipline me for things he never taught me. But also my dad was raising me out of fear and not love exactly. And I think what we call tough love is actually fear because he was afraid because you was in the streets, Like when I was in the street.

Number one, I felt like my dad used to discipline me for things he never taught me. But also my dad was raising me out of fear and not love exactly. And I think what we call tough love is actually fear because he was afraid because you was in the streets, Like when I was in the street.

My dad didn' not want me to make the same mistakes that he made exactly.

My dad didn' not want me to make the same mistakes that he made exactly.

Yeah, even now, even me now having a son like my son is like, you know, I got four girls and one son, and you know, having my son like he having that, you know, especially with my son, I think about my father more so than anything. But like with him he brings like I give him the joy and the love that he deserved like I do my daughters. You know what I mean, because when I was a kid, I always wanted that for my dad. I always wanted to approval for my dad. I always wanted to make sure I made him happy. But that was a tough love he was giving me. That made me question at that time. So, you know, with my son, like, I definitely didn't want to come off that way, you know what I mean, I didn't want to give him that tough love. It may be times where it's needed, but for the most part, you know, my son is my dog. A loans with my daughters. But you know, having a son now it makes me think about my dad more than anything.

Yeah, even now, even me now having a son like my son is like, you know, I got four girls and one son, and you know, having my son like he having that, you know, especially with my son, I think about my father more so than anything. But like with him he brings like I give him the joy and the love that he deserved like I do my daughters. You know what I mean, because when I was a kid, I always wanted that for my dad. I always wanted to approval for my dad. I always wanted to make sure I made him happy. But that was a tough love he was giving me. That made me question at that time. So, you know, with my son, like, I definitely didn't want to come off that way, you know what I mean, I didn't want to give him that tough love. It may be times where it's needed, but for the most part, you know, my son is my dog. A loans with my daughters. But you know, having a son now it makes me think about my dad more than anything.

Now, is it true that you said Jordan on the win it is your favorite, Michael Jordan, but.

Now, is it true that you said Jordan on the win it is your favorite, Michael Jordan, but.

You don't do drugs more more so, you gotta explain that way, more so from the standpoint of like how simple he made the game as such a it was thirty eight, thirty nine, forty.

You don't do drugs more more so, you gotta explain that way, more so from the standpoint of like how simple he made the game as such a it was thirty eight, thirty nine, forty.

Still, but that was your favorite, Jordan.

Still, but that was your favorite, Jordan.

It was my favorite, but it was more so the one that I could I remember watching the most, you know what I mean. I'm thirty five when you know I was what twelve thirteen when when when Mike was with the Wizards, So it was more me understanding and like watching.

It was my favorite, but it was more so the one that I could I remember watching the most, you know what I mean. I'm thirty five when you know I was what twelve thirteen when when when Mike was with the Wizards, So it was more me understanding and like watching.

And you fell in love with that, Jordan.

And you fell in love with that, Jordan.

No, I love Jordan, but I'm more so fell in love with that Jordan with the style of playoff hot playing. Now you know what I mean.

No, I love Jordan, but I'm more so fell in love with that Jordan with the style of playoff hot playing. Now you know what I mean.

Obviously you don't agree, huh No, I.

Obviously you don't agree, huh No, I.

Mean, I mean I get what he's saying, but that twenty three.

Mean, I mean I get what he's saying, but that twenty three.

On the Bulls three, it's definitely something that what's your favorite Bron? My favorite Bron? That's a good question. I mean second Cleveland Stint Lebron probably my my favorite Bron because that's Lebron. We couldn't get passed when we was in the playoffs. He was he was. He was unstoppable, unstoppable. And you had a relationship with Kobe too, Yeah, Kobe was. I had a relationship with cob ever since I was probably fifteen fifteen, sixteen years old.

On the Bulls three, it's definitely something that what's your favorite Bron? My favorite Bron? That's a good question. I mean second Cleveland Stint Lebron probably my my favorite Bron because that's Lebron. We couldn't get passed when we was in the playoffs. He was he was. He was unstoppable, unstoppable. And you had a relationship with Kobe too, Yeah, Kobe was. I had a relationship with cob ever since I was probably fifteen fifteen, sixteen years old.

Just growing up in Compton, Like.

Just growing up in Compton, Like.

Yeah, growing up in Compton, and I always used to go to his camps. Then obviously when I was in high school, being a ty reigned ranking high school player, he used to have these late night runs where we would go up there and play, and you know, he used to hand pick who, you know, who he fell in love with as players, and I was one of one of one of those ones. And by the time I was a senior in high school, you know, he would give me his shoes. I wore shoes his Kobe's all, I think my senior year in high school a lot of times. And when I went to college, he used to give me a lot of his shoes. So we always had a relationship ever since I was young.

Yeah, growing up in Compton, and I always used to go to his camps. Then obviously when I was in high school, being a ty reigned ranking high school player, he used to have these late night runs where we would go up there and play, and you know, he used to hand pick who, you know, who he fell in love with as players, and I was one of one of one of those ones. And by the time I was a senior in high school, you know, he would give me his shoes. I wore shoes his Kobe's all, I think my senior year in high school a lot of times. And when I went to college, he used to give me a lot of his shoes. So we always had a relationship ever since I was young.

For sure, where do you rank them?

For sure, where do you rank them?

Like?

Like?

Where do you have?

Where do you have?

We just finished on my goat. I'm beyondest I tell you about. Cobe is my goat for many a reasons. You know, that was the first person like I watched, like grown up in LA. That's the only NBA game I used to watch Lakers, So I watched every single game of his ship. I cried when he shot the air balls versus Utah in the playoffs as a kid, So I always had an emotional attachment to him growing up watching him play and obviously him being my mentor by the time you know, I got in high school and throughout throughout my time in the league.

We just finished on my goat. I'm beyondest I tell you about. Cobe is my goat for many a reasons. You know, that was the first person like I watched, like grown up in LA. That's the only NBA game I used to watch Lakers, So I watched every single game of his ship. I cried when he shot the air balls versus Utah in the playoffs as a kid, So I always had an emotional attachment to him growing up watching him play and obviously him being my mentor by the time you know, I got in high school and throughout throughout my time in the league.

Did the NBA provide proper grief counseling after Kobe passed being even if you didn't have a personal relationship with Kobe, he influenced so many people and inspired so many people.

Did the NBA provide proper grief counseling after Kobe passed being even if you didn't have a personal relationship with Kobe, he influenced so many people and inspired so many people.

Did they did they handle that correctly? Because I was in the bubble too around that time.

Did they did they handle that correctly? Because I was in the bubble too around that time.

Right, what is that the bubble? Yeah? That was that same year, right, yeah, because that happened, yeah that yeah, just that happened that year. Then the league stopped in that summer, we went to the bubble. Yeah. No, you know what Scrater, I think during that time as players, we we kind of embraced each other deeper than than anything, because you start to look at the person next to you, like, man, damn if this could happen a cold, this could happen to anybody, and it kind of hit us all hard, man like, like I remember the night, I mean the day it happened. I remember we had a game and a lot of people across the league started, you know, basically text and talk before the game is like should we even play? A lot of people is contemplating on not even playing because just out of respect for Cob and everything. But we end up, you know, everybody ended up holding the ball. I think we held the ball for twenty four second shot clock. You know, just try to you know, pay pay respect to him. But you know, we all bridge together as players more more so than anything.

Right, what is that the bubble? Yeah? That was that same year, right, yeah, because that happened, yeah that yeah, just that happened that year. Then the league stopped in that summer, we went to the bubble. Yeah. No, you know what Scrater, I think during that time as players, we we kind of embraced each other deeper than than anything, because you start to look at the person next to you, like, man, damn if this could happen a cold, this could happen to anybody, and it kind of hit us all hard, man like, like I remember the night, I mean the day it happened. I remember we had a game and a lot of people across the league started, you know, basically text and talk before the game is like should we even play? A lot of people is contemplating on not even playing because just out of respect for Cob and everything. But we end up, you know, everybody ended up holding the ball. I think we held the ball for twenty four second shot clock. You know, just try to you know, pay pay respect to him. But you know, we all bridge together as players more more so than anything.

I was playing against him because that was your idol. That was your goal. Y'all played with ten games in the league against each other total.

I was playing against him because that was your idol. That was your goal. Y'all played with ten games in the league against each other total.

Yeah, yeah, more than that, because probably more than that. I think for me it was it was cool because you know, I was even able to be a part of his last All Star game in Toronto, you know, to honor him even that season. I think we honor him when he came to Toronto. I gave him some special shoes, special made Kobe shoes. It was. It was amazing being able to play against your idol, somebody you looked up to, and knowing how crazy he was on the court, you know, and and the order that he carried it is almost similar to the stories I heard about Mike, you know. And to see that in cold whenever he stepped out there on the court and the things he was able to do was it was beyond incredible.

Yeah, yeah, more than that, because probably more than that. I think for me it was it was cool because you know, I was even able to be a part of his last All Star game in Toronto, you know, to honor him even that season. I think we honor him when he came to Toronto. I gave him some special shoes, special made Kobe shoes. It was. It was amazing being able to play against your idol, somebody you looked up to, and knowing how crazy he was on the court, you know, and and the order that he carried it is almost similar to the stories I heard about Mike, you know. And to see that in cold whenever he stepped out there on the court and the things he was able to do was it was beyond incredible.

And now you also played on Master P's AAU here. How I was playing for P.

And now you also played on Master P's AAU here. How I was playing for P.

P was P was like man, that's like that's family man like like P like beyond family man. P took me in like like a son, honest, be honest with you, like Monday through Friday, I'll be in I'll be in Compton Friday night to Sunday, I'm at Pea House with Romeo, you know room. You know, even the other day my book signed in La room came through and you know, show respect, you know, that's that's one of my close friends since since it was fourteen fifteen years old. But you know, he took me in. You know, I was like I was like a son to him early on for sure. So it was dope to be around that.

P was P was like man, that's like that's family man like like P like beyond family man. P took me in like like a son, honest, be honest with you, like Monday through Friday, I'll be in I'll be in Compton Friday night to Sunday, I'm at Pea House with Romeo, you know room. You know, even the other day my book signed in La room came through and you know, show respect, you know, that's that's one of my close friends since since it was fourteen fifteen years old. But you know, he took me in. You know, I was like I was like a son to him early on for sure. So it was dope to be around that.

Whole Or how good was little Romeo playing ball? How good was people? Because I'm sure y'all played.

Whole Or how good was little Romeo playing ball? How good was people? Because I'm sure y'all played.

Yeah, we played a lot. He was good. But he was even better at talking smack like he used to talking the whole game talking. Yeah, he used to talk trash all day long.

Yeah, we played a lot. He was good. But he was even better at talking smack like he used to talking the whole game talking. Yeah, he used to talk trash all day long.

He gives me the old man, back you down, like.

He gives me the old man, back you down, like.

Yeah, hit you with the elbow, like that's that's Pete, Pete, like old school dirty. But he going if he hit two shots in row, you ain't gonna hear the last off it. And rome was nice, you know obviously you don't looking back at it. And we even had this conversation him being the child star he was, it was hard for him to focus on, you know, just one thing, but for him to even make it you know, the college says a lot with the amount of stuff that he was dealing with going through being a star, doing TV shows, doing music and everything, so it was just difficult for him to focus on one thing, but he had it.

Yeah, hit you with the elbow, like that's that's Pete, Pete, like old school dirty. But he going if he hit two shots in row, you ain't gonna hear the last off it. And rome was nice, you know obviously you don't looking back at it. And we even had this conversation him being the child star he was, it was hard for him to focus on, you know, just one thing, but for him to even make it you know, the college says a lot with the amount of stuff that he was dealing with going through being a star, doing TV shows, doing music and everything, so it was just difficult for him to focus on one thing, but he had it.

I think for the wall, I love the title of your book. Right now we're talking to the margor rolls and above the noise my story and chasing calm. I think we all know what noise sounds like, right, What does calm sound like?

I think for the wall, I love the title of your book. Right now we're talking to the margor rolls and above the noise my story and chasing calm. I think we all know what noise sounds like, right, What does calm sound like?

Because one thing.

Because one thing.

You said earlier that that that hit me because I understand that feeling is when you feel peace, and you're a person that's used to dealing with anxiety about the depression.

You said earlier that that that hit me because I understand that feeling is when you feel peace, and you're a person that's used to dealing with anxiety about the depression.

It scared you a little bit.

It scared you a little bit.

Man. I think I said this the other day. It's kind of like, you know, that eery feeling you get when you're in the middle of somewhere and it's just too quiet, like you ain't for something go wrong, like you just waiting, Like it makes your nerves kind of even worse in that moment because you you you kind of on ten from there. So that was even a challenge for me, Like, and I used to try to figure out ways on really how to like accept it and indulge in it, so I start, you know, it got to a point to where I started going to like Montana, Wyoming, going to these random places where it's just completely natural sound and just like getting lost in it and understanding it's okay to be within peace, it's okay to kind of decompress away from everything else that's going on, because it's the true way to find the center yourself and kind of really think clearly for a second and not question it, medita or I mean, I'm big, Like I remember I went to Montana. I got on the river. I wouldn't loan the river for about seven eight hours, no phone, no nothing, and just you know, looked at the mountains and just wouldn't loan the river, and you you know, it kind of put your thoughts in perspective with everything I've been. Yeah, no, nothing.

Man. I think I said this the other day. It's kind of like, you know, that eery feeling you get when you're in the middle of somewhere and it's just too quiet, like you ain't for something go wrong, like you just waiting, Like it makes your nerves kind of even worse in that moment because you you you kind of on ten from there. So that was even a challenge for me, Like, and I used to try to figure out ways on really how to like accept it and indulge in it, so I start, you know, it got to a point to where I started going to like Montana, Wyoming, going to these random places where it's just completely natural sound and just like getting lost in it and understanding it's okay to be within peace, it's okay to kind of decompress away from everything else that's going on, because it's the true way to find the center yourself and kind of really think clearly for a second and not question it, medita or I mean, I'm big, Like I remember I went to Montana. I got on the river. I wouldn't loan the river for about seven eight hours, no phone, no nothing, and just you know, looked at the mountains and just wouldn't loan the river, and you you know, it kind of put your thoughts in perspective with everything I've been. Yeah, no, nothing.

But that's the thing that's amazing.

But that's the thing that's amazing.

But that's the thing. We get so caught up in our phone. Like i'ma be honest too, Sometimes I get lost in my phone and I get mad through my phone, like damn, I don't need this, you know what I mean. Let me kind of like like decompress from all this and kind of just find myself because it's so easy to get lost in everything else.

But that's the thing. We get so caught up in our phone. Like i'ma be honest too, Sometimes I get lost in my phone and I get mad through my phone, like damn, I don't need this, you know what I mean. Let me kind of like like decompress from all this and kind of just find myself because it's so easy to get lost in everything else.

So now you have like resources though where you can get up and go to like Montana and all that stuff. When you talk to younger players about finding peace, just because they might not have the same environments, how do you explain to them how they can find little pieces of piece Like you said you had your grandmother who was peace to you, Like, how do you talk to them or talk them through that.

So now you have like resources though where you can get up and go to like Montana and all that stuff. When you talk to younger players about finding peace, just because they might not have the same environments, how do you explain to them how they can find little pieces of piece Like you said you had your grandmother who was peace to you, Like, how do you talk to them or talk them through that.

I think you really got to find what you what you love, and sometimes you can't be scared to try something new either, you know, whatever that may be, because it's different for everybody. And one thing I always try to tell people be open minded to things you may be comfortable uncomfortable with, because that could be the thing that changes. Because it's a lot of stuff. I never in my life thought i'd do it. I never thought I'd be somebody from Comptant be in the middle of Montana like. I never thought that. But I was open to the idea of doing it and trying it, and it was one of the most amazing things I did. And even in that moment when I did it, I remember I took like six seven of my cousins from from Compton. I took him there. I remember they was mad as shit at me because you know, I didn't tell them what he was going.

I think you really got to find what you what you love, and sometimes you can't be scared to try something new either, you know, whatever that may be, because it's different for everybody. And one thing I always try to tell people be open minded to things you may be comfortable uncomfortable with, because that could be the thing that changes. Because it's a lot of stuff. I never in my life thought i'd do it. I never thought I'd be somebody from Comptant be in the middle of Montana like. I never thought that. But I was open to the idea of doing it and trying it, and it was one of the most amazing things I did. And even in that moment when I did it, I remember I took like six seven of my cousins from from Compton. I took him there. I remember they was mad as shit at me because you know, I didn't tell them what he was going.

They thought was going somewhere.

They thought was going somewhere.

They thinking like we about to go turn up, we going like and we get off the plane and we're in the middle of Montana and they was mad. But by the end of the Triller, it was like, Yo, this is one of the greatest experience I ever had. I never thought I'd be in Montanna scaling trees or on the lake, or or fly fishing or doing all these like I never would imagine. But it changed their perspective, you know what I mean, in touch with nature too. Yeah, it give them a whole different outlook on just life and thinking it's just being around like you know tox type of you know energy. Sometimes it's cool, it's you know, everything in moderation. But sometimes you really just got to ground yourself and figure out that that come.

They thinking like we about to go turn up, we going like and we get off the plane and we're in the middle of Montana and they was mad. But by the end of the Triller, it was like, Yo, this is one of the greatest experience I ever had. I never thought I'd be in Montanna scaling trees or on the lake, or or fly fishing or doing all these like I never would imagine. But it changed their perspective, you know what I mean, in touch with nature too. Yeah, it give them a whole different outlook on just life and thinking it's just being around like you know tox type of you know energy. Sometimes it's cool, it's you know, everything in moderation. But sometimes you really just got to ground yourself and figure out that that come.

What is it that makes Compton so special?

What is it that makes Compton so special?

Man?

Man?

Like, just think about all of the great iconic culture shifting people who have come out of comp.

Like, just think about all of the great iconic culture shifting people who have come out of comp.

Yeah, it's it's it's wild because I've had moments where, you know, when I go back home and I'm leaving out this like city and you really just sit and realize, like, man, this this small city the births some of the greatest individuals that ever touched the world, you know what I mean. And it gives me the chills a lot of times when I think about it, because you know, it makes me even feel even more proud of even being from there, because it don't happen by accident the same, you know what I mean. It's something about this place, that that shape, that have so much to offer, that that you that you see, you know what I mean, And it's it's it's I'm just honored to be a part of it. Be honest with you. It's hard to pinpoint what what is? What is it? But it's it's something amazing because we got some grapes to come out of there.

Yeah, it's it's it's wild because I've had moments where, you know, when I go back home and I'm leaving out this like city and you really just sit and realize, like, man, this this small city the births some of the greatest individuals that ever touched the world, you know what I mean. And it gives me the chills a lot of times when I think about it, because you know, it makes me even feel even more proud of even being from there, because it don't happen by accident the same, you know what I mean. It's something about this place, that that shape, that have so much to offer, that that you that you see, you know what I mean, And it's it's it's I'm just honored to be a part of it. Be honest with you. It's hard to pinpoint what what is? What is it? But it's it's something amazing because we got some grapes to come out of there.

Now, you played in Toronto for years, but then Kendricks from Compton, Drake is from Toronto. That's your guy. How do you how do you choose what you're gonna get into and what you're not gonna get into at that point.

Now, you played in Toronto for years, but then Kendricks from Compton, Drake is from Toronto. That's your guy. How do you how do you choose what you're gonna get into and what you're not gonna get into at that point.

You know, it's crazy. It's like love them both family, you know, it's but at the end of the day, it's like I'm from Compton, like my city, where I'm from, where I'm born, like when my family still live. It's like that comes first before anything, you know. And I feel like any real person will understand that, you know, And that's just what it is like. And it's so crazy because my second home became Toronto that that has the one of the greatest of all time being from there too.

You know, it's crazy. It's like love them both family, you know, it's but at the end of the day, it's like I'm from Compton, like my city, where I'm from, where I'm born, like when my family still live. It's like that comes first before anything, you know. And I feel like any real person will understand that, you know, And that's just what it is like. And it's so crazy because my second home became Toronto that that has the one of the greatest of all time being from there too.

So watch your mouth, watch your mouth.

So watch your mouth, watch your mouth.

But you're not mad about watch.

But you're not mad about watch.

Your mouth got the super Bowl?

Your mouth got the super Bowl?

No, I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I understand it. Like, yeah, we for sure love to see Wayne up there. And my thing too is like everybody was in such an upworld. We don't know Wayne was still gonna do it, you know what I mean, Like we don't know. We didn't know fifty was doing l A but we it was such an honor and surprise to see him still do it.

No, I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I understand it. Like, yeah, we for sure love to see Wayne up there. And my thing too is like everybody was in such an upworld. We don't know Wayne was still gonna do it, you know what I mean, Like we don't know. We didn't know fifty was doing l A but we it was such an honor and surprise to see him still do it.

He can't do that though, Kendrick, I mean, I mean that part of it, I would be crazy, you think so, Yes, super Bowl, Kendrick put your name in the song. I'm glad the Rose came home. Y'all didn't deserve it, neither you being in the video. They were acting like you man, crossing me lines and something, even though that's your guy.

He can't do that though, Kendrick, I mean, I mean that part of it, I would be crazy, you think so, Yes, super Bowl, Kendrick put your name in the song. I'm glad the Rose came home. Y'all didn't deserve it, neither you being in the video. They were acting like you man, crossing me lines and something, even though that's your guy.

So imagine Wayne's showing up on stage with me. What you want to say? I see dead people too, and then walk off. That wouldn't have worked.

So imagine Wayne's showing up on stage with me. What you want to say? I see dead people too, and then walk off. That wouldn't have worked.

I mean, it's that's why I'm glad I'm not in an entertainment because your job is definitely difficult.

I mean, it's that's why I'm glad I'm not in an entertainment because your job is definitely difficult.

Have you spoke of Drake?

Have you spoke of Drake?

No, I haven't talked to him. I haven't talked to him.

No, I haven't talked to him. I haven't talked to him.

Ain't sent them a text to be like, you're good, blocked, nothing.

Ain't sent them a text to be like, you're good, blocked, nothing.

Good. It's just super Bowl.

Good. It's just super Bowl.

First it was the Penguins. Nowadays the thing is true. Okay, go ahead ahead, you see watching.

First it was the Penguins. Nowadays the thing is true. Okay, go ahead ahead, you see watching.

You can see the penguin thing. Is that's a thing like people?

You can see the penguin thing. Is that's a thing like people?

Right? I think listen, it's dope regardless of how everybody look at it. I think it's dope. Go back to the content thing to see somebody from Comptant headline the.

Right? I think listen, it's dope regardless of how everybody look at it. I think it's dope. Go back to the content thing to see somebody from Comptant headline the.

Super Bowl, like again, I just had one two years ago.

Super Bowl, like again, I just had one two years ago.

Yeah, it's la in two years from now too, so but yeah, I don't know. I just appreciate the moment. I would love to see Wayne, you know, I love to see you know, cash money out there. I love to see no limit out there, you know, So I don't think too much into it when it happens, because I'm pretty sure it's more of a surprise that probably do come with it. And that's just me guessing. I don't. I don't have no insight on anything. That's just me guessing.

Yeah, it's la in two years from now too, so but yeah, I don't know. I just appreciate the moment. I would love to see Wayne, you know, I love to see you know, cash money out there. I love to see no limit out there, you know, So I don't think too much into it when it happens, because I'm pretty sure it's more of a surprise that probably do come with it. And that's just me guessing. I don't. I don't have no insight on anything. That's just me guessing.

And I like it, man, because you know, to the victor goes the spoils right like it was. It was the greatest rap feud of all time, greatest rap beef of all time, Kendrick One. I feel like if Drake would have got the better of that situation, it's no doubt in my mind.