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Hey, welcome to another episode of the black Outs podcast.
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Live on a Sunday morning, ready to do some podcasting. It's gonna be a feedback episode. As you can imagine, we were busy yesterday. We did our five K went to our Matinee Hornets game but they got beat bad. Bye Calf.
And uh yeah, we just didn't feel like during the show yesterday.
It was tired. We did not and and I guess this is about to suck it up. I say random.
Thoughts, but no, no, it's not. No, it's just this is a feedback show.
Oh my bad.
Yeah, this is not we're not doing We're not doing the regular show. That's what I was Just the whole preamble was that, I know.
No show.
My brain is like, oh yes, a Sunday.
Yeah.
So we're gonna talk about the stuff that you guys had to say throughout the week.
Many'll about yesterday, We'll talking about that Bundy.
Yeah, we'll bring it up. It'll come up throughout the week. You know, lots to look forward to in the next couple of weeks. I know we have Chris Lambeth coming on the show Wednesday. We got Morgan Campbell, Morgan Pete Campbell. The Peace Stands for published coming up next Sunday after sir. So you know we're getting rounding in the forum here on it on the way out of the year. The official weapon of the show is chair and the unofficial sport a bullet ball. To the extreme, to the extreme, to the extreme. Of course, we got to start the way we always start, because we're gonna get into your comments on our website, your votes in our polls, your voicemails, your emails, the stuff you sent us in the whether it's from my Amazon wish lists or cards or whatever. But you know, the people that really really make this thing go sometimes, you know, uh, for nothing, like they just get a shout out. Are the people that just give money. They just go to the donations and they be like, let me hook you up. And if you want to be one of those people. If you are one of those people, all you got to do you go to the blackout Tills dot com. It's on the front page. If you're on a on a web browser like a you know, not a phone or something. It's right there on the right hand side. If you're on a phone, you have for some reason on our phone, you gotta turn it sideway.
I don't know why, because if you do it regularly, you won't see it unless you turn it sideway.
Turn it sideways like the whole paye you do it pay Pal or whatever. But anyway, we like to get those people a shout out, and that's what we're about to do.
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That's right, new charity, new what's the tea? We got some new donations. Far Jason f recurrent donator, Our Girl Falcons Diva recurrent donator. We got a one time donation from Dorothya w Now here's what's important about the one time donations. I won't necessarily say the amount every time, but the reason I'm saying the amount is some people put money up just so that people could get behind the paywall. And so she put up like half of the Black Friday calls for somebody, and so that allowed combined with I believe Ronan Raphael that allowed someone to get a free Black Friday subscription, and we were able to give away quite a bit. I'll get into that right after we get into the donations. I'll tell you all the details on that. Ken M recurrent donator, Derek l W a current donator, a classic R and B lover gifted somebody of your premium subscription. So somebody got in because of her. Zach from Living Corporate recurrent donator, Joe H recurrent donator, Lawrence C. Recurrent donator, Christoph R. Yolanda gifted somebody. Yolanda H gifted somebody a premium subscription on her, so if you got in, one of y'all got in because of her. Of course, as the aforementioned Ronan Raphael, he subscripted. He gave half a subscription to somebody. Dotstree J recurring donator, Preston Team Droux aka Slang of Ages podcast recurrent donator Matthew d W left us a recurrent donation. Thank you very much, Matthew. We got a donation for CELESTEBB. John B said in honor of John Brown, slightly late for twelve two, y'all have helped educate me in that means something. Maybe it means a lot and left us. Now here's the thing. I normally gonna say them out. This is a huge amount, but I normally gonna say them out. But because of the donations, I'm bringing up five hundred dollars. So five people got in because of John because I just looked at it like, you know what pay that one for? You know what I'm saying. So somebody got five people got subscriptions this week because of him, like shot to him, Mariana and lastly Adam s So that's everybody, h thank you everybody that took the time to donate. Damn. That's the first time we went through the whole song. Here's the thing. So with the donation thing, not everybody was able to get uh you know, obviously somebody give him a free one or whatnot. I can go check to see how many are left. It looks like, let's see not damn not damn. So one, two, three, four, five, six, So like six people people didn't get in, but we probably had like a dozen people that got in because people just was being kind and they had five. And in addition to that, while I didn't say it on the show, it's part of the five K, people were donating money. I shared my link, you know, to be like, hey, I'm doing this five K. If you want to donate some money to it, you can, And so people donated money, you know, and so we got over I think a little over five hundred or something like that. I just made five hundred to goal, just to to have because if I doesn't make it. I didn't realize this, but if I didn't set a goal, it would just keep going up own. So like, no matter what people donated, it'd be like, you didn't reach the goal. And I was like, that feels weird. So let's just I never came into it with a goal. So let's you know, once we got over like two three hundred, I said, let's make it five hundred even and leave it at that. We got over five hundred. So I think I gave six people behind the paywall subscriptions just based off of the charity that people did, uh in the name of my five K things. So you know, we let a lot of people in you know, spirit of giving, spirit of Christmas all that stuff, whatever, you know, quansa whatever, y'all believe in community economics and whatnot. So it felt good to get some people in and hopefully they appreciate those subscriptions, many of them. Thank folks. You know, just just told me to tell everybody. Thank you to the people that got through. So shout out to y'all coming together as a community to facilitate people getting some extra access to the podcast and getting behind the paywall and getting enjoy stuff like Ballsy Sports, the pregame movie, our sport movie reviews when they come out, our lip smacking good podcasts, and just so many other podcasts behind the paywall. So and with live shows and everything.
Thank you, Thank you very much.
All right, let's move on. Let's move on. Let's talk about the people who left us five star reviews. We got one new five star review since the last time we did a show, if I'm not mistaken, Yeah, that would be correct best podcast ever worth every star. And then some five stars by a winst five. Thank you very much. Yeah, don't forget to leave us five star reviews. We read them on the air that make us feel all yummy and to tummy and we feel all good and lets us know what we're doing is not in vain. People listening, people enjoying it, and Yeah, it's real dope. So appreciate y'all that lead those five star reviews because without y'all, you know, well, we wouldn't be moving up on the charts, you know, we wouldn't be getting that level of you know, of sharing.
And all that stuff that happens on those apps.
So thank you. All Right, let's get into the shows. I think we had three this week, yep.
Three.
One of them was a feedback show, Tolerance under the Big Tent had thirteen comments. I have no idea what what was we talking about? I have no idea why, But let's find out. Uh Appia from Germany says the blackout tipts went international. The universe wanted clearly for Running, Raphael and Appia to meet because in the morning they left. I was away anyway at the airport hotel for a conference and they arrived at the airport one hour before it started. So it really worked out. Run and Raphael is so sweet and his family as well, and he has so many great business ideas. Oh lord, no, you're not right up here. Six months like ride, what happened to my savings?
And where's Raphael? When?
When? When you ain't he him leaving? Comments from a new alias, like who the hell is this caing the cainge the scammer, and why is he leaving so many comments?
Why is videos?
It seem a lot like what running Raphael would do. He would say, look at this video on Facebook and leave comments.
I got some big coins for you.
Yeah, that's interesting, came the scammer.
Just chilling. Uh, he told me genius ideas. He set himself a luxury cruise for cats. Imagine you love your cat but worried that it might get bored. A cruise with other fancy cats will change that with laser pointing, chasing the Olympics, lots of nap time and all the cat nip it could it could you wish for? And the ship surrounded by water. The cats hadwater so they couldn't get lost. For only ten thousand dollars, I can buy a sharing it. I'm so lucky. Thank you for introducing me to greatness. And then she she sent an Instagram link. But it's a link of the picture of them together, which I believe I shared last week, of them meeting at the airport with the baby and all that stuff. I'll share it again just because it's such an adorable picture two times. If yeah, here here they go together, so we love to see it.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, and just make sure you check your purse, make sure things and take you make account running around for air replied haha, yes, extra special to blackout discount to be applied. You were great and cool too, and yes, I'm one of your black friends.
Here you go. It happened, It happened.
Wow, the power of this podcast.
Yeah, as the power of this podcast. People invested in that storyline.
Apia started with one mission to get a black friend, and god damn.
Mission accomplished.
Didn't it happen? Didn't we make that happen? Look at us? Nev says, love. How y'all, how we're just calling Germany Appias country now labmass off Rona. Raphael says it is at a word with the outgoing Chancellor of Germany and he signed it into law. Is Appiers country now it's the law. I don't think that's true. Apier reply agreed, the g country could use a rebranded and I'm here to help. By the way, as an immigrant life can be hard, especially in the beginning, so now it's a reward. I allow myself fully to pick and choose born in Poland, spent the first twelve years. Now now my life is German, my husband is German, the language I speak mostly is German, my passport is German. According to my mood, and what's fitting I claim the one or the other.
I'm German or a woman from Poland.
It's only fair after all these hardships, I feel you, Rona Raphael says before I, well, now I know why I have so many comments. They were just talking to each other, ron Rafael said before I met the awesome Apia sal ray SONI once, but she was with her crew and they were deep in a convo that I never saw a good window to say hi. Once I ran past Brooklyn Shoe Bay, but I had just teleported from three universes away for a meeting that was off my pace, so I made a note to myself to say hi to The meeting was over, however, someone tried to sell me a collapsing skyscraper, so I had to run to the next universe fast and forgot about saying hi. And for the same we'd some real reason have it been back there. Media Apia was great. Then I found out that I'm not the only e jall listener and port Harcourt g of the blackout tips to my fellow massive e jall message me via blue Sky. Let's come up with a new hustle on ride on me a. Hi, you's the target, you son of a bitch. Oh, by the way, if there's a ben in Warri, you know, go a calibar fam out there, holler a the blackout tips Niger Delta hustle incoming Alrod y'all, y'all love terrible. I heard my good friend ev is learning the language. Just throwing this out there. Babel and Rosetta Stone are offering lifetime deals one time payment along with a few language apps. Brooklyn Public Library offers free access to Mango for learning languages. I got Babbel and combining Mango. Hope it helps Evie, he said, Thanks, Ronan, I will definitely check that out. I am already semi fluent in Spanish, but I want to focus on Japanese for the next year because I plan on visiting in Japan for my next milestone birthday, so this is definitely helpful. Advice. Got a long comment from Lord Yomino, who says, hello, roder Care, haven't made a comment forever because I'm extremely shy, but y'all in the podcast, you all have been my bomb during this time. I haven't met another blackout tipt fan out in a while, but I have put one on. I have put on one of my younger guy friends to the show, and I always mention it when we talk politics. He actually voted for Jill Stein for his first elections. He could take part in and search Scooby Dude thinking riga mean, but for this one he shared my passion of being pro Kamala all the way, and I think part of that due to him maturing as a person. That also what I would mention what you both talked about on the pod. You put me on to the fact that a lot of these online progressors that are usually white but not always never taking the consideration the deep poison that is racism and massagy and how that's baked to targe society and effects on our elections. Watching a lot of these twitch progressives slash YouTube essays, and the fact some of these fools open their mouths to go on and on about everything wrong with the Hairs campaign. I just found myself saying fucking and unsubscribing from a lot of content.
Me too, and particularly a lot of them, not all, but a lot of the liberals and like extreme leftists, a lot of them. It would not be funny. I'm just putting to put my hypothesis out there if some of their follow account and donations and things went down after the election, because I think for some people they followed them not turning funny, assuming that they had their finger on the pulse, assuming that they were paying attention to shit and not just kind of just spewing theories and shit out there like that. And then after the election when these people come kind of going okay, we need to continue to fight. What can we do? And you're blaming You're just people, And some people like me are like, bitch, it ain't time for blaming. It's okay, okay, we lost. Like I've been around long enough to know, and I've said this before, you don't win them all. You just don't. So losing is a part of the process. And so you lose, you go through the warning process, you shake that shit off, and you get back up and you go, Okay, what we're gonna do next? And basically they have been on a whining falling out. What was me. The world is tumbling for a while now, and people are like, hey, I can't listen to this.
Yeah.
My thing is with those spaces. There's two things that I'm coming out of it with and that's why I'm not really listening to a lot of them. The first one is they thought she was gonna win two mm hmm. They thought she was gonna win too. Many of them were talking like they expected her to win. They expected her to pull it out. They were also encouraged by the results of the voter registrations, the immense amount of people at her rallies, the fundraising that was record levels and not record levels because a couple of billionaires gave, like Elon Musk, record levels from on the ground funding, the on the ground game, the fact that she stayed on with the foot on her gas all the way to the end of the election, not making the same mistakes quote unquote they claim Hillary made where she wouldn't visit certain states near the end of the campaign. They thought she would win, and then she didn't win. And now it has to turn into a blame game, because you can't blame the American people, and you can't blame the people that voted for Trump, so it has to be the politicians, which is the thing and just the way I see the world now for me, And this is why I can just kind of opt out of these conversations in these spaces. I don't find anything in them that will get us free because I don't think they will give us the truth, and I think only the truth is gonna be the thing that pushes you to freedom. I don't necessarily consider our podcast like this mission of like we're freeing the people. I think we do a comedy show, we do a pop culture show, and some people find our commentary to be interesting and thought provoking and stuff. But I you know, I don't count myself as like an activist. I don't count myself as necessarily educate or anything. But what I will say is if you can't say the truth, if you can't speak to the truth, I don't know how you make a next step, because all the next steps, to me, are predicated upon this lot that white people didn't want this, that voters didn't want this, and that the other voters weren't okay with this, and all three of those things are to me are true. Those things are true, and if we can't start with that. We can't start the conversation and with like, what are we gonna do about the fact that people want this Trump shit and it doesn't matter, Like the stuff that you say matters actually doesn't matter. Like when you like, well, she like this, like the Joe Biden parton thing, how can he parton somebody? How could Trump parton everybody? Like, like, why are you acting like that supposed to matter to somebody? It don't matter to me. Now you can say, oh, it's wrong or I mean, just on the principle of it, fuck principles. This last election was a fuck principal's election. So you want me to exist in this old reality where look, the tiniest infraction was supposed to matter. We don't. We don't live in that world anymore. We elected a actual criminal who puts criminals in charge of organizations in the government that they say they're gonna dismantle. Stop talking to me like it's nineteen forty five. It's twenty twenty four. Wake the fuck up, bro, this is it. So that's the reason I'm not listening to them is because they sound antiquated. Well, if they would have had a primary and then what Did the Republicans really have a primary? Is that what happened? No, it's just one standard for one side, and that's what's gonna kill us. The fact that there's two different standards is the thing that's gonna kill us. It's not the well listen, man, we just have to understand it's two different standards, right, and you can't win like that. It's like saying, like, man, I'm really surprised the Washington Generals didn't beat the Harlem glow trotters, right, one part one party gets to throw a bucket of confetti on the other one and and and and dribble off the back of their fucking heads and carry and put put the ball underneath their jersey and run down the court and then throw up an allyut. And the other one gets called for double dribble and carry and walk. That's the difference. So no, I'm not gonna treat it like I'm watching a fair game. Be like you know, but if the Washington Generals would have went to a zone in the second half, man, fuck that all right? Anyway?
Agree with you? And this is the reason why, like I said, I kind of tap out a lot of these conversations I'm with you. If we're not gonna talk about the reality of what happened and put like this, if we're not gonna start at the basis for me, that the populace wanted this and people voted for this. If we can't start there, if we can't say our fellow Americans let us down, I don't want to have a conversation with you. And for some people they don't want to accept that reality. But then we can't talk because in my mind, as far as I'm concerned, that's not a fruitful conversation because we're not starting at the same starting point. I'm starting at. Okay, fuck the bullshit and the noise. This is the reality, and you're starting but bup up, I don't want to hear no excuses. I'm tired of excuses. So unless we want to get past whatever excuse that you made up in your mind, because these people got to be good people like like like you can't fathom the American populist saying we won't bullshit and you like, but it's a good meal over here, and they knock your meal off the table and go no, beat us the dog shit, Because this is what the fuck? If we can't say that that is the reality. Why are we talking?
Yeah, and I'll say this and move on to the rest of the comment. But I think I just realized the other part of this that I haven't said out loud, that I've just assumed everybody can hear and understanding my frustration.
But I guess I haven't even voiced this to myself.
But I'm beyond thinking Donald Trump and the people that voted for Donald Trump are bad people, negligent and horrible people. I'm beyond that that's a given. I also think the bystanders are bad people. I also think the people that are rod goodwill are bad people. I think the people that practice the double standard in real life are bad people. I think the people that want to get hung up on somemantics in a time like this are also bad people. They're bad people to me that maybe they don't think they're bad people, they think they're moving in good faith. But at the end of the day, you watch them collar travel on the on the Washington Generals, and then you watch Curly Neils sit on the ball and roll it out between his legs and then throw a bucket of water on a clown and then shoot the ball from out of bounds and hit a three. And then you went, why won't they play defense? And I'm like, okay, yeah, you're a bad person too. You can't see what's happening. So yeah, back to this.
Though, Yeah, and in action is an action. Don't care what you say. I've always felt like that not doing nothing is a decision.
Let's see. Lately, I've been engaged with more of my comfort stuff, which has been older anime, Marvel hard films and live DJ playlist on YouTube and Twitch. Yeah, I think a lot of people have been tapping out, especially knowing that you know, inaugurations in like a little over a month or whatever, and so I think a lot of people are just like, listen, ay, shit, we can do right now. Anyway. Anyway, that was a long comment. Wish both of you all wonderful Christians. I continue to listen to the new year. PS. Sorry for adding more on to this already long gass comment, but Rod, you always mentioned the interesting intersections of social media, cloud unchecked trauma, mental illness, and how that plays out online. I would like to recommend some anime Japanese films that were head of their time and some of the things you discussed on the main show and this Too Much Paranoia Agent and Perfect Blue, both by late amazing anime uh anime director and animator Satoshi Khan, and the live action Japanese films Suicidal Squad and Cairo. I'd love to get both of your thoughts on these works whenever the time comes. Love you, Rod and Karen. All right, thank you very much. I don't think I've watched those in their entirety. I think I started Perfect Blue and never finished it.
For something, I don't remember that. I don't remember watch that with you. For some reason, that name sounds familiar, so oh.
Yeah, it was a long time ago. Yeah we did, but it was like.
Years ago, a very long time ago. Yeah, because I was when I was like, that name sounds familiar to me.
Yeah, yeah, that movie is from nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, I this was back before I had really expanded my anime horizons, because this is nineteen ninety seven, and I remember watching this and it's not an action anime. It's an emotional anime about like this pop starting all this shit, and I just remember being like when the fucking Ninja showing up and just yoick took it out the VCR, which is on me because now my horizons are a lot more broader.
I watch that. But because every time you get something, they don't mean you always ready for it.
Yeah, autum vo, says high Rider Karen. Please forgive me in advance for keeping the drake ish going fucking problems by asat Rocky's on my workout playlist. Maybe I'm late and pointing out the obvious, but the other day I realized Drake's versus supports what's Kendrick been saying. It's too much to type, but you'll notice both. Notice if you listen any who, thank you for both for being my cousins in my head. Listening to your show has got me through some rough times and I'm grateful. Yeah, Drake verse on fucking problems, I don't remember off the top of my head. I remember the course, of course, the I love bad bitches, that's my fucking problem. But I don't remember. Oh, just drop down, get your eg alone, or we can stare up at the stars and put the beatles on all the shit you're talking about. It's not up for discussion. I will pay to make it bigger. I don't pay for no reduction. If it's coming from a nigga I don't know, then I'll trust it. If you're coming from my head, the motherfucker get the busting well head shots for the year. Yes, Lord, I don't really say this often, but this long dick nigga ain't loan for the talking o beasts. I don't remember all his verses, and Kendrick said, goll on Kendrick lamar aka bens is to me just a car that means your friends says need to be up to par. See my standards are pampered by three soomes tomorrow killing ma all dead bodies in the hallway. Don't get involved. Listen when the crystal ball say Holly Bearry, hallelujah, holler back, I'll do your beast. Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember Drake. I feel like to me, I'm been more listening to what Kendrick got to said than what Drake had to say back in the day, because I don't feel like Drake shit be that deeper revealain. But I think as I mean I've said many times when we went through the whole beef and being a huge Kendrick fan. Kendrick for years has been trying to exercise himself for the demons of like fame and friviality and sin and avarice and ego, and that's all there is to Drake. Drake is a completely made up individual. He's only those things. He's ego, he's he's avarice, he's greed, he's fame, he's uh, shallowness, he's sin, you know, he's he's uh, he gambles, he you know, he's like, he's just he doesn't have respect for anyone. And so to me, it just always made sense that Kendrick and him, if you just go through their catalogs, Kendrick is anti Drake because Drake's not real, you know. Shoe Boody says prosterod for not goinging in on transpho, but hesitate to call them a turf because the radical feminist part of that phrase is neither. It's not about respecting or protecting women are ensuring equality amongst all genders. If the bathroom wards were really about protecting women, that would be an active legislative works to actually protect women and men and them, such as Domestic Assault, Harassment Stalking Registry, much like Sex Offender Registry that is something that would protect women. Trans folks are not the threat or the issue that needs addressing. Yes, we'll take that vote, but I'll never be quiet about trying to advocate for human rights period. Yeah, and I won't either. But here's what I will say. Right one, there's no props needed for not going in on somebody I don't like.
I'm not doing this out of some like.
Pat on the backshit. I truly do think us on the left have not been building coalitions and bringing people in. I think that is a detriment to our movement. And I think the only thing the right has kind of succeeded at in the last few years is letting people come in that they actually hate. They hate black people, they let us in if we will are willing to toe the line. They they hate gay people, like I said, doctor Umar, and these white supremacists actually don't have much in comment if you think about it, but they're willing to. They will take the one vote or the one comment of support and ignore the ninety nine that those motherfuckers say. I think the work we do, the things we talk about speak for themselves, and the fact of the matter is, if a person like that is listening to us. I think it's a good thing because the spaces that actually will invite women who who have this feeling of like I need to protect other women. What happened is right wing spaces started opening. They see that exploit and know what they do is they open the door for those women. For example, a lot of the Qano stuff is actually about, oh, we need to protect kids. Women want to protect their children, they want to protect what. There's this thing called sex trafficking. They're sex trafficking kids, and the left won't even talk about it or whatever. It's something ridiculous, you know, like literally Kamala Harris locked up more sex traffickers than Donald Trump ever, will not as many as he piles around with, but more than he not as many as he elects to his cabinet. But she's locked up, you know, actual real she stopped real life sex predation on people. And yet where do the people go that are like this is my number one concern? Some of them go over there. Some of those white women are red pilled because it's almost like you want to call it purple pilled or something like, it's not really red piled out of way because they won't be like, oh, no, and I agree with losing all my rights. They'll be like, no, I don't agree with that, but no one's gonna protect these kids. And so I think sometimes are harsh recriminations of folks who aren't in lockstep with us are really more about us, Like it's really about us flexing to be like, look at how harsh I was to this person that didn't know what the fuck they was talking about. I hope because it's how it happened for me, to be honest. I hope through listening to our show, people that don't get it start to get it. I get so many people that do write in, like Buddy that wrote in and gave five hundred dollars and he's like, y'all have helped me see shit differently. I hope that. I hope I can't know, but I hope that us not just calling that woman, you know, like a bunch of cuss words and just being like, you transphobe, a piece of shit, and like, I hope that a person like that might see like, but you know what, I'm over here. I don't necessarily understand everything. I don't really know how they understand stuff. But I'm over here and I'm voting with them, and maybe one day I will understand. Maybe I'll never understand, but I do understand that on ninety shit, ninety nine percent of shit we seem to be out of eye. We need that more than we need for me and caring the flex that on that one percent that you off and just be like, but well, look at how great of our liies we are. Because that was That's a that's a real thing, And I feel that way about a lot of stuff. I like, black shit ain't no exception for me. And y'all know that if y'all been listening to the show, a lot of black people do this thing where like when it's some black shit, they get real staunch, like, no fuck that. If you don't understand by humanity, then I don't want you over here with me. Shut the fuck up for me. I'm like, if you voting Democrat, but you also are one of these weird liberal races that don't want you know, you don't want the school in your backyard, Okay, but you still voted in a way that might put the school in your backyard, So fuck it, you know what I'm saying. I'm not I don't feel like debating with you. I just need you to do your job and I do my job, and we'll meet somewhere progressive hopefully.
Yeah, And I completely understand. I'm with you on that one. And I understand everybody has their things, but we have to say, Okay, we got our things, but where do we agree on things and work from there? Because Republicans are like, I don't give fuk about what you're talking about. You you hate them bitches, We hate them bitches. You don't want abortions, We don't want abortions, And they'll take that one topic and they will galvanize towards that one thing and be like, I don't got to gree with nothing else, but we agree on this vote for us, and that's what happens.
I think if a coalition is gonna be built, the next whatever is gonna be built on. I don't think it needs to be this thing where people are saying stuff like you need to put trands rights to the back, you need to stop talking about race. I don't think that's how you build a coalition. But I do think you go, Yeah, some people over here don't understand what we talk about. When we talk about DEDI they don't get it, but they over here. But they over here, and we're not gonna cater policy to them. Like, we're not gonna say we're dropping it. You just go, We're just not gonna spend a bunch of time fucking dunking on you. You're over here, whatever the thing is you want, let's go. You know, we're not gonna concentrate on what you don't want. That is, honestly, to me, the kneecap in the last election cycle, how many people chose their ego, their personal preferences over the bigger picture. How many people said, how many people can only look at Democrats and think about what they didn't want, they refused to look at what they wanted. You know, there's so many people where they're just like, I couldn't do it because this one thing. And I'm like, what about all the other shit you claim to want? Because the Republicans aren't gonna do those things? Yeah, but I can't get past the one thing. And I'm like, okay, so then maybe we have to stop being a party of trying to make get everybody to a place of understanding everybody. Maybe we just go, well, what about the ninety percent of shit you do want. Yeah, but that one thing we're not even talking. We don't want to talk to you about that. So like, what about the rest of the shit though? Do you want the healthcare? Do you want the reduce of the reduced tax burden? Like do you want those things or not? Because I mean, and if you don't want them, we can just move on. I don't feel I just feel like it's fruit It's not fruitful creating these spaces where it's predicated on us admonishing the folks, so we big up ourselves. I just don't think that's it hasn't been working. It is what I'm seeing.
Yes, and also our one hundred percent agree with you, and also when we have been because a lot of times, because of social media and things like that, the things that get you the most attention in this instance is not saying these are things I want. You get attention, particularly on social media, by complaining about shit you don't want, where people have not met their goals. And I'm and I'm gonna keep it real. This is one hundred and I understand these are real things and these impact people. But this is how I feel about Palestine. This is how I feel about the drones. This is how I feel about a lot of that stuff. Some people were completely serious and was like yeah, and a percentage of people were out here and they drummed on these things because these are the things that got them attention on social media, not that they really cared about these things. Like no, not trying to funn up a bunch of people. Reality now shows me a bunch of people said that they wanted these things. They they didn't want these things that happened to those people, but they didn't vote for it, like like like your vote told me you were lying to me. So a lot of this social media was just to grand stand and make yourself feel bigger, because.
If you go back in a lot of their history, you see that they were saying that four years ago or four years before that, and they just they never planned on voting for Democrats and they don't, but they get a lot of the attention and they get treated like, oh they would if we just did the right things, but they won't agree. But also like obviously we'll talk about on this episode as many people leave comments and whatnot, but for the record, I'm not trying to turn our show into this either for the record, like into this, like we're talking to the transphobe every week and we're trying to figure out a way to have a conversation. I'm not interested in the conversation. That's the whole fucking point. I'm not the person to carry whoever wants to pick up the mantle and be like, we're getting this democratic thing rolling again. We're getting everybody hype for two years from now when it's time to vote in an off cycle election or if they have one. All that shit, that's another person needs to do that job. I actually don't have the patience. I like, I'm being expedient. I'm a patient person in general, but this idea of holding someone's hand through this shit is beneath me. I don't really want to do that. Everyone's our Show's free to listen to. Everyone's welcome to listen to it and give their feedback in their opinions. But I'm treating people where they say they are. So if you write in and say, listen, I'm transphobic, but I vote Democrat, good enough, I actually can I actually can move on. I actually don't. I don't want to. I can't. I can't. If you listen to what we do. Do you already heard all the arguments. You don't care, essentially, and you're not gonna be moved off your square. And if you are gonna be moved off to the square, it's not gonna happen because we scolded you on an episode or whatever. Hopefully it happens because your heart opens and you hear the humanity and the stories we're talking about. But I'm the same way that I don't want to be. I understand white people need to be educated on racism, but I will never teach a class on racism.
That's how I feel about this.
Whereas like that's the thing y'all need to take care of, and you're like, well, why don't you come in and talk to them, because suck my dick. Why I don't want to be subjected to that shit. Right, So at the end of the day, you know, we talked about on the show, people gonna feel how they feel. But you know, I don't feel like there's no props, no passing the back. I don't think we did anything special. I think we would have responded to feedback like this on pretty much any issue, and hopefully this type of conversation. This type of person doesn't become a staple of the show because actually, I don't feel that much is being served by talking about the shit like this. I really don't. I really feel like I'd rather talk about LGBTQ news and the trans issues within that that are actually affecting people and hopefully people here within those conversations, the arguments and the reality of what this really does, because the scolding part needs to go because it's not working, not because I don't feel those feelings. I often feel very you know, I'm hyper aware of I forget what they call it, the hyper fixation on justice.
I have that whatever it is inside of me.
But I'm also very aware that that's not helpful to just go in on people, so I'm just not doing it for that. I want to join you.
Oh Sean says, thank you for your great feedback.
Shows.
Always want joins.
Shoe Booty and the Mind your restrain and responding to the transphobe and on a linguistic note, fobe is in transphob and islamophob referred to a version rather than fear. Sure Shoe Booty cover how they are being used a scapegoat. I would like to add that nobody is changing their sex. It is about adjusting appearance to master their gender. This is about xx versus x Y. There are actually eight non phenotypes for x Y people assigned for female at birth. To start getting into actual complexity of the sex side of the equation. See, this is part of what I'm talking about right in it trying to explain it and using this level of like language, you already lost these people, Like the kind of person that what you said would help is the kind of person that would have looked so up already. Yeah, that's not These people are accepting shit like men are going in women's bathrooms and they gonna rape them. That's what they think is the argument. They not looking at the actual humanity of a trans person. They're going, oh, you you got a mental disorder, something wrong with you, that's what they're thinking. They're not thinking none of this chromosome shit, no DNA and shit. And also, to be honest, like, I think we make a mistake on our side when we try to use science and stuff to justify it. I don't think it needs justification. I think it should be as simple as if a person says that is what that is going on with them. That's it. If they're not hurting anybody. I don't even understand why we need to justify it. The reason we try to justify is because of how many people try to take away the justification from it. Right, So, like, for example, race is actually not a real thing, right. Race is a social construct that we had to create. Now, I don't pretend that race doesn't exist, because you know, it's like the wind.
You can feel it on your face. That means it's out there.
Don't don't really matter what the science says on that ship. Race is real, right, But in general, we there's a there's a way to look at racial stuff to be like, this is all fucking silly. I'm a human, you a human. What the fuck do it matter if my skin is a little darker? What do it matter if I was born in another part of the world. It's what's the matter is? I want to I want the same rights as you. I want to be able to get married. You can get married.
Why the fuck should I not get married because my skin brown?
Do that make sense? That don't make sense. We spent so much time and it's part of what they do. It's part of the same equation, the same thing they do to black people. And when it comes to race, we spend so much energy justifying shit, proving shit scientifically because they spend so much energy trying to uh try to invalidate us. They spend so much energy on bunk science like phrenology. It's the shape of your head that make you smart or not? No, it's not. You know black people have certain shapes to their heads, and let me guess those are the dumb ones. Right, it's coming up with a term like drape to mania, which means, oh, if a black person wants to be free, they must have a mental illness. That's bullshit that they came up with. But how much time black people have to spend debunking bullshit. It's just wasted fucking energy. I don't want to waste my energy. So x y chromosome, everything you're saying, it could be completely correct. We know anomalies exist within science, within creation, within humanity. Right, we know that our behind o person exists. Whether we can explain it or not isn't really the fucking point. The problem is the biggest that go an albino person mean, the devil is in them. We should kill all of our bino children, which is a real thing someplaces.
That's the problem.
The problem isn't our whether we should justify the logic of our bino people exist. The problem is the illogic of discrimination, the illogic of oppression, the illogic of literal bigotry, and that's what we're dealing with. Technically, it really shouldn't fucking matter what's between someone's legs when they go to the fucking bathroom, because that's not what the rapes are happening. If we're just want to keep it real, that's not what the fuck is happening. Trans people need to use the bathroom sometimes, that's it. It's nothing sexy about it. Sex doesn't even come into the fucking no.
It don't. That's the last thing on your mind.
It's not about that.
And if it was about protecting women, and we'll get to this later because I think this person love another comment, But if it was about that, we'd be arguing about Matt Gates being put up for offices, for hag self being put up for offices, if we cared about that, Donald Trump being president, if we cared about stopping rapists. But we fucking don't that's not what the discussion is. They're just using the bigotry and this repulsion and the fear of change. They're just using it and making people go, hey, hey, you know the real problem is all trans people are pedophiles.
That's not remotely true.
But if you're, if you're already, if you already geared towards that level of like, I'm scared of change, you'll just hop onto something like that, and it gives you a It backloads your reasoning so you can go, you can work backwards in the already was was uh, as you said, had an aversion to trans people, but Republicans gave me the reason of they're gonna rape us in the bathroom. So now it's about to protect the women's faces. But it's not. Now it's about women's swimming. It's not. It's not. They just want to get you hung up on some technical shit. But whatever, I think we I think we waste a lot of energy trying to disprove them. I really don't think, mostly because I don't think it matters. I think you can write all this and the kind of person that wrote into our show, the kind of person that's hearing this right now, these arguments existed, they either didn't look them up or they were not swayed by them, because there's an innate repulsion. It's like when you see when two it's like when men don't like to see two men kiss, they work backwards, they don't, they don't stop it, Like, fuck, man, something's wrong with me. Two people kiss. If it was a man and a woman, I wouldn't even have thought about it. Two men kiss, and I feel gross about it. Well, let me now justify that. Why did they have to put that in the show. Why do they have to put Alexandra d Dario's titties and detective Detective? They don't have to put any of that shit in there, but one of them makes you feel weird. So now you gotta act like it's an agenda. Now you gotta make the joke about it. Now you gotta you spread that hate with that bullshit because you aren't even questioning yourself internally or looking at the bigger picture and being like, why would I put this level of hate out there unto the world. Why can't I just sit back and be like, sometimes people be gay the end anyway, and guess what, Unless you have been genetically testing. You do not know how many ex or Y chromosomes you have. It doesn't matter. This is all about how people's brains are wired. Because gender is psychological, not physical, and it's not a disorder. It is simply how we were made. I agree, but I just so don't think. I don't think these people are even gonna listen to you try to prove it.
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Like I said many times, bruh. At this point, I'm just ready for the laws. Y'all follow the laws. I don't really give a fuck about your heart.
Yes, sir, a baby, And once I came to that conclusion, life was so much better. When it comes to anything that oppresses the people, anything that subjugates up to a person being less than I want that motherfucker shit in writing, the goddamn end put it in writing, and the government upholds it.
Yeah, yeah, I mean civil rights laws or civil rights laws for a reason, you know, the voter. I care more about the voting right sack than all the hearts and minds people claim will change. At the end of the day, the hearts and minds is what gives them excuse to get rid of the laws. That's what they used against the Voting right Sack. They went, white people ain't as bad as they used to be, and I went, no, white people ain't as bad as they used to because it's in writing. They're still trying to strip black people their voting rights, but we have a law in place that says you can't, and we can challenge it, we can take it to court and have it upheld. And then they struck down the Voting Right Sack because they say hearts and minds and what has happened since black people's votes have been challenged and eroded and put hurdles in front of every single year since the same thing. This is why, this is why I'm like, we always end up in the same place when we do LGBTQ news. I never try to, but it just it's impossible to talk about it without We always end up talking about voting, and we always end up talking about putting people in office and getting laws because I don't. I have given up on this idea that we're gonna everyone's heart is gonna grow three sizes. What I see grow people's heart is actually when something becomes along a lot of times people will pretend that they always was on board. That's the bullshit I've seen. And they weren't always on board. But it's like once it becomes a loss, like oh yeah, of course black people should be able to vote. Oh yeah, of course June teenth, you get juni tee thoft Remember we always get, we always get, we always get junieteeth th offt. No, you fought against that shit for years. The second that it was like, guys, is a federal holiday, It's like, oh, yeah, of course, because right, wouldn't it be right? It doesn't work the other way around, where everybody's like we all wanted Juneteenth and we demanded the government give it to us, and they did Nope, Nope, nope, that's not it works.
No. And it's been that way about integrating schools, and it's been the way that way about bathrooms. It's been badroom because the thing about bathrooms, chad, black people been black people being a a A.
They used to say, we couldn't use bathroom because we was gonna write people yes.
And and and that's the thing.
And this is why when it comes to l b lgbt Q issues and black issues, Chay, they're the same fish. They swim it down the same stream. Because I've always said this, it's the same tactics. They use, the same exact tactics, from the bathrooms to the laws and the schools to not wanting to give you services. It's the same fucking tactics. You know. If they could, they would tell them to go around to the back, like they used to tell the black people.
But they but and then that used to have two of everything in the South, because that's how irrational racism is. Yeah, we gotta have two water fountas. You gotta have two sessibles, gotta have two schools, got have two bathrooms. You can't reason with this ship. You just gotta get everybody on board. And that's why I'm like, I don't want to be dunking on the transfer and all the shit. I don't. I don't feel like it's fruitful. It's just a lot easier to be like, oh, you said you voted, Okay, cool, I'm dropping it.
Let's move on.
I don't want to talk to you about it. I don't want to make this into a whole fucking thing, which is it's clearly becomming right.
And it's also you know, one of those things, all these isms and systems, they're irrational and illogical, and a lot of people on the left, they're very irrational logical people. So in their minds they try to like you say, scientific, None of that shit matters because you're dealing with the side that's irrational and illogical. And so once you understand that, you put it in the books and you keep it trucking. You know, because you are also particularly with black people, talking about particularly down south. You know a lot of people down well, a lot of people call the country, particularly down south, a lot of us can't swim. That's because you know, that basically outlawed us from the pools, Like you know, we're dipping, we're getting a swim pool that fucking would flood to swim pool out, shut swim pools down, and shit like that. So you know, you're talking about people that are willing to go to that extreme for us. So what do you think they're willing to go for somebody that's not only us, but maybe black, end trans whatever. It's like almost doubly for them. So no, the irrational and in logical right in in the book and leave me alone.
Erica says, I had the hardiest cackle with Ryan called Drake a great a certified bitch. I may have fumbled why he said it, but it was hilarious. Drake really played himself with this lawsuit. While I don't enjoy him as I used to, I do like him. So Far Gone was a great mixtape. He could have taken this opportunity to revap. He could have taken a break from music and made a pivot to come back, pivot back to acting. I even would have liked to see him come back with some more mature music in a few years. Anyways, it's Kendrick, though, is amazing. Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
I don't think.
I think what's bad for him is that a lot of the reason people don't like him now is because of him. Like I think it went from like, oh, Kendrick said all this stuff that like changed our blah blah blah and changed our minds, and then I just think Drake did a lot of that shit that made people go, oh, actually, you know fuck that.
They tag with the lawsuits, a lot of people are like, ow you suing.
All right, let's get into the YouTube comments. Andrea Rights and how do you define working class Republicans are pretty much defined working classes, white or right racial identity since the Civil Rights Movement. The Republican working class like unions things. Black people are talking taking off the jobs because of affirmative action, can't stay at socialism, so welfare, universal health care, etc.
It appears a Democrats are following suit.
If you are defining it by education, the black working class still looks like it did judge Jim Crow, and that far too many of us are college educated yet still working class because of the universities I attended. Republicans actually think I'm a cultural elite. How I'm working class. However, since our community prioritizes entrepreneurship, some non college educated black folks have a higher standard of living than I do because they are small business owners. Non college educated white people don't necessarily see themselves working class. Just your runner the mill white person who hates wokeness d CRTA and votes Republicans. The bottom line is that far too many white people are against racial equity, and as long as Democrats at least say they are for racial equity, most white people will not vote for a Democrat president. I don't know, you kind of restated what we said so sure, I agree. Chinese spa balloon says, that's our crux, convincing someone so far down the Republican rabbit hole to look at voting records and political bills that deal's put forward and vote yes on for the working class.
Yeah.
I think the hard part of this is that Democrats to me are for the working class. And it's kind of obvious, but there's a cottage industry and just saying that's not true, right, and people don't. People are not that educated or smart or detailed, and no one ever has to prove anything they have to say any specific legislation. They they just use a few anecdotes and like see, and I'm like, what Republicans ain't for the working class? And we know that for a fact with their legislation, who donates their money and all that stuff. We know that, we know that, And yet it don't matter.
Right because the real at the end of the day, you have to work in facts and a lot of the debunking and misinformation it got everybody like that's what people fail to realize because you have a lot of Democrats that complain, complain, But yet if somebody says, hey, Doug, what you're saying is not true, like you're saying these statements, and Democrats have actually done the shit that you said. And once I realize people are doing that, you're either purposefully doing it or that you're just ignorant. And you know, that's when it was like, okay, a lot of this, Like I said, with social media, it is not about the truth, It is not about the facts. It is about you and we. Particularly this last election has showed me that a lot of people are like, what are my needs? What are the things that I want for a lot of these people that complain don't line. I'm gonna tell you right now, not at one period of time have they ever talked about us. A lot of these people that have been complaining about everything, not one period of time have they gave solutions. I'm trying to try and be funny for you to be so loud and so proud and want to have a microphone and camera your motherfucking face. Where is this we? Where is this us? Where is this unity? None of that was actually being preached by a lot of people. And guess what, when you don't have unity, you don't have numbers. And when you don't have numbers, you don't win.
The next comment is from Chinese bot Balloon that says, I'll preface this by saying, I'm white. I've been fighting Trump and all the misinformation shit going back to gamergay in the early days of Q and nine. It's not Kamala. It's not Kamala's loss is Trump won by convincing gullible people to believe anything legal immigrants eating pats killery, drinking baby blood, Michelle Obama being a transformer doctor Joe Biden was Joe's babysitter, all the white genocide bullshit.
Yeah, sure, man, I mean I.
Think it's just, you know, as Karen just said, you know, it's kind of like a it's a It's an interesting line because I don't know. I don't know how much of this is what they genuine believe and how much of this is what they say they believe so they can do what they actually want to do. And I don't know. Only each person knows in their heart for what the difference is. But I think a lot of people know that that stuff is pretty much bullshit, but they've been empowered to act on it in a way that nobody else is. No one else in America is allowed to act on lies that they feel are true in the way that white people are and that's a hack in America that will never be undone. So is it the missing you know what it is? It's what I said about the trans stuff. They feel a way about black people, brown people, women whoever come women and getting a piece of the pot. They feel a way about it, and saying Michelle Obama as a trans woman allows them to act like that feeling is justified. And then we, unfortunately the rest of the world seems to take that shit and face value and treat them like, well, yeah, I mean, the problem is they just don't understand. I think they do understand, and I think whether it's subconsciously or consciously, they couched in this bullshit. I don't think I'm necessarily smarter than these motherfuckers or whatnot. I just think they my feelings will never be able to be justified like this. No one's ever gonna let my feelings lead the country. What I'm like, Man, I feel like this, and they go, well, let's make some laws. That ain't how that work. Andrea also wrote in again with another long comment, I disagree that the Democrats have some because of their acceptance of the Black elector. The Black Elector has raised the consciousness of the Democratic Party from the nineteen forties when it was first added its civil rights plank into its platform. When Truman added the civil rights platform and met black people. Then during the Civil Rights movement, it meant all minorities. Then during the feminist movement, women were added, following by the gay community, then the disability community. If anything, Republicans were pissed when the Negroes in the South, for the most part, started voting like the Negroes who lived outside the South, especially since the Northern Republicans favored the same civil rights legislation as Northern Democrats had. But they forgot that. They nominated Barry. They nominated Barry Goldwater to and for President. Barry Goldwoadter didn't endorse the Civil Rights Act. Trust me, Negroes in the South did not forget that. And I mean, I'm a Negro the South, and almost seventy percent of us still lived in the still lived in the South. Meanwhile, the klan aka the white Southern Democrats FKA as conservatives from both parties and during the Civil Rights movement and segregationists. That's all in parentheses, and I don't understand threatened to start their own party, which would have taken votes away from Republicans to a peace Southern Democrats, Nixon, OZIAU and the Republican Party this is themselves even more from the Civil rights movement. They said to hell with them, and by them they meant Negroes. I understand how history gets written. Black ar Kansas put a liberal Republican in the governance matches twice, which was historical, but were written out of history. At the same time, white liberals were I know you thought this made sense when you wrote it, but it's all over the place anyway. I'm almost done. White liberals were rewriting the Civil Rights movie. The last point I want to make is that Nixon had both a southern and northern strategy. I'm gonna need some of you negroes to start talking about that northern strategy.
I hear you, Andre.
You should probably start your on podcasts because I'm not sure I follow what you're saying there in general, and I mean, you can disagree to Democrats have suffered because the subtence of the black electric I don't think we said that I think what I said, if we want to be specific, because I only deal in like what the fuck we talked about over here, not just feelings. I think what I said is they haven't won the white vote since they did, and that's just a fact, and there's nothing you wrote in that then that can push back on just that fact. They have not won a majority of white people plurality of white people since they since they basically flipped and said, we're down with the civil rights movement, We're pushing the Voting Rights Act. They passed that, and then white people in mass abandoned the party. As far as the majority of them, that's just a fact. I didn't say anything about they suffered for it, or and of this ship about Nixon and and and all that stuff like nothing, and if anything, that stuff just elucidates my argument. It don't necessarily push against it. So I'm not really the party you lost me at is the first two words I disagree. I don't think there's anything to disagree about. I didn't say the Democrats suffered because of it. I think what is what is what has happened is that black people are always constantly being targeted in this country and anyone who is aligned with us is targeted as well. And it's mostly because there's a certain type person that don't want to be around us. And it's and it's not logical, it's not reasonable, it's not rational. It's not even part of the lies they tell themselves about standing up for everybody, the pieces of shit, and so uh yeah, at any rate, they these people abandon the Democratic Party, those those white folks did because they don't want to be around black people.
And a lot of times I.
Feel like we do too much, and not you Andrea, just in general society, we do too much, giving them all this other shit, like all this writing and all this flowery language, and let's go through the history of it all. It ain't even that deep. They saw black people they don't want to be around, and that's not necessarily just a Republican conservative thing. White people in general, even your good ones, they see a few blacks move in the neighborhood, they start thinking about moving out. Yep, too mean black people in the school, they want their kid go to a different school. They can't really explain why, but they just do.
They feel the way.
They don't want that, they don't want that they don't want that affordable housing in that community because they think it's gonna mean black people. Even though all kinds of people like affordable housing. You don't got to be black like affordable house. But so I think the white flight of it all is where Democrats will always have a struggle is because white people are the majority of this country and it doesn't take as many of them when it comes to the percentage wise to throw the whole thing off, right. So that's you know, but I appreciate what that you rode in. I just don't think that was jermaine to what we were saying exactly. Anime, Prince SSS, thank you for saying that the media going on about it's the economy is bullshit. You guys are very select few who I see who are tack articulate how I feel the constant talk about the economy is bullshit. I have eyes and ears. I saw and heard the campaign the GLP nominee for president rant I will not be gas lit about economic anxiety, right Yeah, And all the time I read these post, shout out to my man, obviously, Jail Covid, because he'll he'll always highlight it and he has a certain type of tweet that he makes all the time, and I always retweet it.
But it's whenever there's like, hey.
Another quarter of job growth, another quarter of unemployment falling, oh breaking. President Biden will become the first president of American history to register job growth in every single month during his presence. This is huge America being like the only country to cut shit back down to pre inflation rates that were before the pandemic Underbiden. Now I gotta listen to some motherfucker tell me, nah, man, it's about the economy or eggs or people just wasn't feeling it. I don't believe those people. So now we're at the impass because we gotta go. Now we're both talking feelings. They feel shit too high, and I feel like they full of shit.
So stop talking to me the way.
The way you gave up on trying to convince them that they was that they need to live in reality with some facts. Stop trying to convince me that I need to live in reality with their feelings. I actually don't give a fuck. They fucked us all, so fuck them too. Anyway, the lader said, I started singing macho man when Roy was opening the package. You scroll boy, it's the ways, you know what I'm saying, you know, just getting that ripped that ship up, you know what I'm saying. Tiffany's says Chopp and screw this one to the minute, neess KM with the bars. I don't remember when Karen said that, but I probably I don't. I don't just we be talking about it a week later.
Yeah, we don't be remembering, y'all. I'm sorry.
I'm assuming it's Karen KM. Karen, Yeah, that's me. Yeah, So all right, depoul, have you ever met another listener from the Blackout Tips Yes at a Blackout Tips event? Yes, in the wild or not yet? I was a little surprised. Thirteen percent of y'all have met another Blackout Tips listener at one of our events. Shout otter that shout to that, we'd love.
To see it.
About eleven percent of y'all have just met Blackout Tips listeners out in the world, just out, just out and whatever, random shit on one our events. Y'all just happened to be like yo, we linked up. But seventy six percent of y'all have not yet met another Blackout Tips listener. So we got people going all the way to Germany, right, Tim, just something y'all came across the street. Goddamn, I bet.
You y'all around each other and don't even know it.
You hate to see it, all right?
But bus had a T shirt that too.
All right, we gotta get to the next episode. But I gotta play some music for Maybe we can do commercials at some point. Okay, here we go, all right. The next episode is threey sixteen corn four Comments says people with narcissistic personality disorder often don't see it as a problem. That's why it's hard to treat. Now. Nick said that he has it, but does he want to work on it? He say, in therapy? But what can I know? There are people with a fragile ego and that's this. This the disorder lets them feel bigger. That's why I wanted to get rid of it. Isn't often happening. That's why they will have to develop new tools and with them a healthy self esteem. And it takes time making themselves bigger. Putting the others down is way faster. With an atrophied empathy, they don't feel what the what others do? Yeah, that's that's tough. That's that's an issue for them to solve. Man, I personally do not fuck with them. Like as an EmPATH, I have a hard hard no a narcissists in my life period, hard.
No because and and and the thing is that they are everybody has a certain part of them that is narcissistic because you're just human. But it's people where they just they just tick all of the box and just take it to the extreme. And so I'm like you, I've been around people like that. I've seen it done before. I've been on the both sides of that as far as being in the group, being out of the group, being into grace, being out of the great type of thing. And I'm like, I'm good on that dog and a lot of times, depending on the situation, I can see it from afar.
Yeah, I just had to put major boundaries up, like I just can't deal with it. Ron and Rafael says, Man, I've been enjoying Blue Scott thanks to the Blackout Tists and three g O mostly people unfollowed somewhere quickly. Who is one of my first black people that seemed popular after I noticed that a lot of the person's posts will add this person to the black list yeah, yeah, I see those people too, attack, attack, attack. Goddamn, how are you better than these people who you ran away from history? Repeating itself. I don't feel safe and don't like being treated like shit. Move somewhere new, and what do I do as soon as I take power? But come to bully it can be intoxicating. So as soon as I noticed that person clogging my timeline, they had to go much calmer. Now with the blackout test three g O a few nerd and local journalists easier to sell a hustle, just in time for the people looking for terrorist protection. I got you. You're gonna be on the block list. I'm starting to scamm a block list.
You gonna be the first thing on this small I don't.
Want to get scammed. Let me tell you who the block already, there's gonna be one person on it, Sean said. So Hunter was charged with being laid on his taxes, not feeling them out perfectly, and will not accepting that he was an addict when he filled out forms to purchase a gun. The gun charges were also the first time I could fire where such charges were brought up without connection to a crime committee. With said gun, the prosecutors and defense came up with a plea that would have resulted in much more reasonable levels of overcharging no felonies, was blown up by completely unqualified federal judge appointed by a complete piece of shit, feeling as such an entire prosecution would be fairly easy to appeal in a reasonable judicial system due to the obvious bias and mishandling the case by the judge. Uh yeah, except that Hunter did plead because he didn't want to put his family through all that shit.
Yep.
So once again, like he was gonna be up to the mercy of the sentencing under these under this system that hasn't incumbent that has said he will u weaponize the justice system against his who he considers, whoever his political foes are.
Yeah, because he had already do a trial, he was basically gonna have to, you know, go through a trial again. And I don't know if y'all remember they was just digging and pulling and digging and pulling and pulling up ex girlfriends and talk about his drug habits. He was like, I'm good on that dog.
I would have appreciated him partnering a couple more people that the incoming corruption and paying. This machine plans to foul false charges against Can you name them? I think from now on, I think everybody who says that you gotta send us the names, that's all. I just need to know the names dog because I mean, as of right now, I don't know how you partner someone who doesn't have charges fouled against them, because that's not what a parton does. The only way the parton works is they gotta be charged or convicted of something, then you can pardon them. I don't believe you can just be like, this person has immunity from any charges of all. I think it's gotta be like, oh, this person was convicted or charged with a crime, and now here I am saying no. Same way, you can't commute a sentence that someone hasn't been sentenced to right against the railroad through the system were completely unqualified judges. But even if he had, would it be reported. So that's the other part, Sean. I the other reason I'm not really entertaining the he should have pardoned some other people, he should have did this. Those people are lying and I don't know if they're lying to themselves or if they're lying because they think they want to sound better than public. Let me tell you, if Joe Biden comes out there and says, I pardon two hundred drug offenders and my son, we're still only talking about his son, right impacted, Like, I don't mean to be a dick, but like, are you fucking not to you, Sean, but to these people, are you fucking stupid? Do you think everyone's stupid? This nigga gonna partner his son after saying he wasn't gonna partner his son, And that's not gonna be part of the story. We're just gonna be more concentrated on Hey, he partned two thousand people today. No, he already part of the most non violent drug offenders of any president in the history of the United States. None of us talked about it, and it was two years ago, and you act like you care about it because you don't. It's just another one of these bullshit talking points that people only have for Democrats because Curly Neil can fucking walk, but the Washington generals gotta be on air p's and q's. It's fucking I'm not participating in it. It's all fake bullshit. He did what he did. I'm actually glad he did it the way he did it, and that it means, yeah, I lied, I changed my mind whatever, Because that's the other thing too.
People are like, he lied.
I'm like, did he lie or did he change his mind? I think none of you can prove he didn't change his mind, But it sounds better and more solutions to say he lied. He lied, But all of us change our minds on shit situation. Very It's a difference between like, listen, man, it's looking like we hopefully Kamla wins this shit and I won't even have to do it. Maybe maybe she a part of my son who gives a fuck right like it just at least the person like, we'll still have some summits of a criminal justice system that is about justice, and we'll try to do the right thing. Maybe he thought, even if she won, I'm gonna pardon them. I don't know, Like I don't. I can see this motherfucker just saying flat out to y'all.
I changed my mind. I said I wouldn't do it.
I looked at the shit again, I realized how bad it could get for my son, and I just fucking changed my mind. You wanna call me a liar. Fine, I'm a liar. Suck my dick. What do it matter what you went and put a liar in chief in Stop trying to act like stop trying to act like Curly Neil. Not out this bitch throwing water on people. I'm like, okay, oh, the Washington generals actually found them on that play and they didn't call it. Okay, okay, so what we got one misscall to one hundred and seventy nine. Okay, all right, cool, Yeah, last time I checked, you're not supposed to be able to put the ball between both the knees and then walk down the court with it like this and then slap it through the back of you, off the back of somebody's jersey, and then put it underneath your jersey and then go, I don't know what the ball is and then walk.
In and lay it up.
Last time I checked, seventeen rule violations happened, and you worried about the one foul.
It's not the same, No, it is not the same. And also Boden was like, oh no, no, no, y'all put Trump in office and put a bunch of Republicans in charge. And they've already said that because I feel like Trump was like, the only reason why y'all went after my child is because he was my child and right, And that's the part too. When you you bring that up, motherfuckers act like, no, yes, Steve. If he would have been anybody else, this fucking wouldn't have made it.
Here's the part. And this is why I say, I don't really fuck with these people at this point. I don't want to talk to him about it. To me, they don't want to admit that part of it is that we're complicit in that. If Joe Biden would have said from the outset, if they fucking sentenced my kid, I'm just gonna partner them, they wouldn't have been like I applied his honesty.
They would have been like, you corrupt piece of shit.
You're the same as Trump.
So it's no way out.
The only way out is for him to allow his child to be sentenced to fifty years forty two years in prison. And then what y'all gonna say, Man, what a pussy? Democrats are pussies. This is what's wrong with the Democrats. They don't fight back or you know what Trump would have did, He would have.
Just suck my d right.
All right. Next even, he says, I recently joined Blue Sky as well, and you and Karen were my two followed first two follows. I think it may have take a bit for Blue Scott to pick up steam, but I'm sure will eventually. Because Twitter was a mess, I had to deactivate my cow because all I had on my timeline was unsolicited porn, violent fights, right wing propaganda, three hundred ads for Yump products. It was time for me to go. I'm glad Biden partner this sub because the pistons off repulicans who would do the exact same thing in his position, Flowers Hunter, I'd come out of prison with my middle finger up and a crack pipe in my mouth because fuck him. Well, maybe not a crack pipe, but at least a joint. Yeah. I mean he'll be fine because I don't think he went to jail. I think his sentencing was going to happen next year, if I'm not mistaken. After Trump took office, and so Joe Biden just said, man, fuck that shit, right, I don't blame him. All right, we got four comments on our YouTube. Let's see absolutely right about Rogan says the Big swir Big Swarm Digs, thank you big swarms. Dig CHM eight one eight says I don't have any issue with Joe clearing his sub but I do wish he bundled a lot of partners of other people as well, like Marcus Garvey, etc. I do believe Joe will be making some tough decisions in the next few weeks. We'd love to see him step down. Let Konic come to forty seven president to mess up dumps, marketing hat shirts and for all this.
Griff that's hilarious. But I disagree.
I've already told you I disagree about the bundling, the partnership. I don't think none of that matters. They just gonna bring up that it's his son and that he said he didn't he wouldn't have done it. So, uh fifty seven oh six, Oh my god, lady, that's how rapists like your son happened. Holy hell? Fifty seven oh six? Well, were we talking about a fifty seven oh six? All right, let me see if I can get to the fifty seven oh six mark. Give me one second, everybody. Fifty seven oh six. Okay, that seemed like about there here we go. What was I talking? Oh wait, I gotta put it on screen. Y'all won't be able to hear it. One second, everyone, one second. We're gonna get this together over here. Man, I need to make sure y'all don't get an echo. Okay, all right, now we can play it and see what the hell was he talking about at fifty seven oh six. Hm, you know she was a real one. She'd be like, yeah, I wrote it, and he did do those things right as fucked up. She's like, what's real fucked up is that y'all published the email of me telling it y'ah. Peter Hack says mom wrote that that email that was like, yeah, my son, like, son, you disappointed me, you always treated women badly, blah blah blah. And then when when people pulled up the email said hey, you wrote this shit. This motherfucker should not be ahead of national security or whatever, She's like, guys, that was a personal email, and you guys are the real jerks right now. Meanwhile, keep in mind, no one outrage, no, no Joe Biden parts his son hypocrite blah bla blah. This woman son is a whole ass accused rapist with DNA evidence attached to it, and they're trying to nominate him, still has to pull this nomination, by the way, to be the head of the military. And y'all worry about some hunter Bonden. Y'all want me to act like two of those things are can gruent the same. Whatever I can't with you, I can't take We can't pretend that we both talked about the same shit. No more. You still living in La la landin and I'm over here living in the real world.
All right. And when Michelle Obama say we go high and y'all and I will hold y'all account, y'all, y'all, And now every time this shit happens, right, that statement comes up because y'all are full of shit, going low as Joe Biden saying, suck my dick. I'm I'm what y'all not going through is doing my son in jail for this political witch hunch. And y'all flopping and crying and dying on the goddamn timeline instead of talking about the reality of the bullshit that's happening right in front of my face. Don't gas like men, not like I'm fucking crazy. What she said is right, y'all, niggas are too high. You don't want to go low.
You absolutely crystallize all things. That's it to me, that's it. They Oh, that's what's wrong with them. They don't go low.
Okay, Well I'm partnering my guilty son.
Wow, really and I if we can't say that's wrong, you can say whatever you want to. It happened, and what you're gonna do about it? A lot of wrong been happening, and it's about to be happening, and we put wrong in charge. We good, Let's see Jason says, you know what Hunter by the twenty twenty eight, why not? Nothing is implausible anymore. They keep saying they need someone who can appeal to the Rogan Andrews shows demo. Hunter has lived the life those foods dream about. Rogan would fly to that man's living room to hear those stories. To be fair, I actually kind of like Hunter that time he showed up to that hearing and called those Republicans bluff gangster. But Joey B doesn't owe him me or anybody else in the explanation. In fact, I apologize he present by it for letting you even be in that position with what's his face coming back in the office. The disrespect and lack of appreciation that Joe and Kamala are leaving with is embarrassing. Yeah, I agree. I think also he might be able to get a lot of the black vote because I feel like the ignorant folks that was like tapping out, like I'm not voting for Democrats. When they find about that, found out about that texticly say you're gonna charge the nigga hennessy rates. It might it might move Ice Cuban them, maybe they might get identified with that. I don't know.
If you were Joe Biden, would you a pardon hunter?
Yes?
One person said no, And I guess that person goes high when it's time or something.
Nigga, y'all go after my child and I have to sit there and fucking watch everything about my life and my child's life be out in the public. And y'all yeah, I'm I'm child. No after y'all elected Trump, right after you elected Trumpp.
Yeah all right. Last episode of the week threey seventeen YMCA is a gay anthem. Shoe Boody says all the blackout tips gift Tree is warm in my heart. This is a pot community that cares. I love y'all really look forward to more details on the upcoming live show. YEP working with it behind the scenes. I had submitted the form. Something was wrong with that form a month ago, basically, but it's getting taken care of. We should have everything up soon and we're looking forward to, you know, letting you guys know about that.
And as soon as everything is up and stuff will let y'all know.
That's what I just said. Yes, you just wanted to say it to you.
I do.
I want to feel fascial.
I'm going all the emails, but cares like and as soon as everything is up, I'm the only one.
Look, I got to take credit for something other than showing up.
You taking my credit?
You take Yes, I gotta take credit for something.
This is stolen valid, this is not you didn't do this work. Come over here anyway.
I'm sure he's doing the real break y'all. He the one doing the email and that phone call and talking to people.
And I'm sureing not going. We working hard.
This is a Now I know how the nigga on Facebook feel. Yes, it's our charity, Like ma'am, I made the billions.
It is our charity.
Your young lady says, as long as I've been aware, they say has been regardless of gay anthem. I'm not sure why, though Showbo says, right, name a gayer song, Sean says last Christmas, I guess it's that he took the challenge to be literal and name a gayer song. I don't know if that's a gar song or not either. I don't think it's up to me to judge. I don't think it's for me to help say what's gayer or not. What I will say is I was surprised at the WYMCA before we started our March March, before we started our five K, they played the YMCA song. I'm surprised, you know what they.
Did, didn't They didn't realize they got down like that.
But it is a little bit more liberal why in our city, So maybe that's why. I but they definitely had it bumping. They did either that or they like we took it back.
Republicans twenty twenty four.
Erica says make Crack Great Again as a wild ass statement, What the fuck's are? I think I understand what he was going for, but he definitely need more work on that bit. Yeah, he was work shopping it. I also want to add that the one crackhead I am familiar with has terrible hustles, so maybe, uh, they don't apply to everybody I was trying to say. I kind of get what Skiller was trying to say. Although Eminem and his mom had a tumultuous relationship, I'm sure her death probably hit him in some way. I too, am fine with not being familiar with the galaxy or consannat shoe Budy says, in what world do we do? You make the CEO money for the biggest health health insurance company, received threats against your life and then not hire security detail. That's just crazy to me. I think he had a security detail. I just don't know if they will with him at the time, but I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the more information come out, the more I just think that's the riddler. Like they found a back they found a backpack in the fucking they found a backpack that he had on in the video in Central Park and it was full of monopoly money, and that.
Shit said, riddle me this bat man, right, Like I'm just it's like, I don't know what is happening with this guy.
But they ain't caught him yet, even though they swear they know who it is, but they're just not telling us. When the police ever been like, we know who the motherfucker killer is. We're putting out an ap B alert. If you see this man, please tell us what's his name? I mean, we just gonna cold that close to the vest. Why wouldn't you just tell us his fucking name.
So everybody that.
That know him would be looking for him. That don't even make sense. This nigga is the Riddler.
Nobody knows that man's real name. His man name is E.
Nigmagma and that's not his real name.
You know what I mean? He take that hoodie off. It's a green out favorite question marks all over it.
They better go through the yellow pages and just start finding motherfucker or the white pages and just start fire people names that sound suspicious.
Yeah, ain't nobody name don't sound right?
Colge right, Like, oh what about this guy? His name is Larry's CEO Shooter.
We might want to give him a call.
It can't be Larry's CEO Shooter, could it. I've never even seen a middle name that was CEO before, but we know he got a middle name, because they always have a middle name if they're assassinating people. Colind says, pertaining the galaxy gas, twenty five years ago, I went to art school and tried nitris at once. I heard a pop. I soon it was my brain that said, you guys can have this shit. Oh no, Appil says, I was at a medical event recently where her neurologists show brain scans of a teenager who was all laughing gas enthusiasts, and they looked like those of an ms pagent patient in the early stages, and they really thought in the beginning of the girl had MSS. So I'm not sure it's really healthy alternative to crack. But crack also doesn't seem to me like something you should recommend for healthy living. But of course, now that the US wants to be made greater again, crack gets a better image because it's from the past when everything was better, even the drugs. Oh no, it's I kept listening. This was exactly his joke. I'm holding up the foreigner card immediately. It's a funny observation for a foreigner. I hope that works. Sean says, not gonna say anything about nitrous oxide. Yeah, I was worried about you. I'm not gonna lie that.
We're gonna breakdown on what it was made up.
Said, I know, Sean got a good seventeen page check.
Gonna get to container that it was shipped in in the history of the man who made the container.
I know you was breaking down the motherfucking.
Mister m L Metal made this, made this container.
Put the carry out of the table down. Sean, be good. It's a comedy show. We want sometimes we just want to keep it calming. I'm not gonna talk about not just ouxide not gonna see you how to tell himself, but I do have to chime in as I'm actually doctor gay. Yes, the YMCA is a gay anthem with gay lyrics, written mostly by a gay lyricists. Not to mention it was sounds between macho man and in the navy. Remember navy is short for no ain'tal virgins. Yet therefore, yeah, Therefore, under thorough academic scrutiny, Victor Willison's claims are absurd and he is problematic at the best of times. However, men doing BUKACKI dance to the YMCA does seem ironically appropriate. You know, yeah, they love that Trump dance. I saw a fucking NFL player do it. I was like, wow, I thought you I was homophobic. That definitely looks like jacking off two dicks. I'm sorry the.
Trump dance both ways.
Yeah, if you told me that, the only thing that the only difference between the Trump Dance and like Janet jacksonman in a motherfucking blow blow bang, is he just not looking up. That's it. If you do the Trump Dance and you just haven't been looking up in the air, you are now Heather Hunter. You know what I mean, Fox, we can say you are Ronan. Raphael says, I like to offer my security firm n g DFA the as solid like a French word that translates in English. Not gonna die for monsieur ass all CEOs in NYC hit me up. I got soldiers that would scare any potential assassins that trained in the Pattington Angry Stare. Nobody wants to have these problems. We don't even need guns except you hire us for Columbia, Ecuador, triple the feed. Let's do business, even, he says, I always thought, why I'm see it was a gay anthem that straight people just feigned ignorance about people absolutely know it's a gay song, but it's so fun people pretend to make it okay. Dump use the song is. I'm using the song is only because everyone else hit him with the season desist. I'm actually surprised there was a straight guy in the group because when I see the biker and cowboy asked his chaps, I can't imagine any one thing YC has.
Hetero Ashley's chaps.
Yeah, it really just feels more like a argument for not letting straight people in the gay group at this point, because that's embarrassing if you the gay people in the group, it's embarrassing this motherfucker out here. Line right, Not that everyone's dead, it's not a gay song. I don't even know if they did. I'm just saying, all right, let's get to the comment fourteen comments on the YouTube. All right, my mom left the first two. You both a podcast gold in these streets. You put a smile on your mama, good health and good karma. My face hurts smiling all day from the awesome birthday gift. Love you both, Thank you, and she returned to favor. We're going to see Tyler creator together too. Can't wait. Wendy Day says, you guys had me laughing so hard. Thank you, Thank you. A bunch of numbers says hope you both enjoyed a five K event. Did my first one when I was around thirty four nine joy this sporadically participated in five kvs till twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. I moved to Oklahoma and joined the running club as a fun way to occupy my time. So I've done five K events almost monthly. Five K events can be fun, and for me being new to this area, I've gotten a chance to explore unique parts of the state. Yeah, someone in our city actually tagged us to an Instagram story where they're part of the group black Men Running or black Men Run or something like that, and was like congratulating us on doing the five k and inviting me out. And I said, I'm really more of a black man walking at this point, but you know, maybe walking He said, there are groups that do that too, So okay, although you know, I kind of like the I kind of like putting on my headphones and just walking, like not really doing a lot of It's not really something I'm doing to fraternize or anything. I kind of like the solitude of it right now. Anyway, at least says forty three forty isn't that kind of point of self expression I'm gay given a straight vibe, than doesn't it mean? Doesn't stand the reason I'm not actually expressing myself authentically. At least, here's my thing.
Dog, I don't know, I ain't gay.
And also I just think internally we don't know what's going on in people. And I think one of the problems we have with all the stuff, with a lot of the transphobia, a lot of homophobia stuff, is the need for like a blanket rules. Blanket rules don't even apply to straight people. No, it don't like you know how many how many straight women do you know who?
Like?
I wear pants, I don't like putting on makeup. I don't I don't want to put on a dress. I'm not you know, I'm not trying to beat my face to the gods to go out. They don't really feminize themselves, but they're still a straight woman. It doesn't change anything about the sexuality. They just express it differently than another maybe hyperfem woman that is, like I put on the high heels. Neither of these things is wrong, by the way, neither one is right. It's when we come to gay shit that it'll become like this, like you were wrong, or you doing gay the wrong way or the right way. I don't know, to be honest, I just think in general, we could all be a little more accepting, lenient, understanding whatever words you want to put out there, right, I think we all could do a little better in just being like, all right, So Khalid was not telling us he was gay. Many people assumed he was gay. Both things exist at the same time. Doesn't really make either of them true or wrong or right. And if he comes out and someone if someone tells us, hey, he's gay and I had sex with him, he's gay, that is wrong and I won't. I can't retroact it and be like, and Khalid, you were You were kind of not expressing yourself authentically. That's kind of the problem.
Now.
I don't think so. And I also don't think gay is one way. I'm think, yeah, anyway. I don't think gay is one way. It's like saying black is one way or some shit, you know. I don't think there's one way to be gay. So I don't look at any of it that way. And most of the time I just see this shit is not really my business, so because I don't know the reasons people have for not want to express stuff, because we assume a fucking lot about people, and some of the assumptions are we know better? Meaning how many people aren't expressing themselves in the way that you think they should because they got issues in their family, They got people in their lives that would treat them differently, They got all kinds of issues navigating stuff within themselves, stuff coming up from childhood, They got different people at their jobs. How many teachers had jobs and they got fired the second that people found out they were gay, right, Like, we just don't know you know how many how many people that were movie stars came out as gay and then immediately started getting less and less roles, Yes, sir, we just do a lot of judging, that a lot of talking for shit that really shouldn't be this big of a deal. But that's just me and I always would feel like it's weird unless you really know a person, Like if you know them, I could see a different way of dealing with it. But if you don't know a motherfucker telling a stranger like child we being new us gay, it's weird to me, like allow that person to tell me that that's fine. It's you know, like to let them have this. I don't know why we're taking it from like, oh, it's not a big deal. It might not be a big deal. It's because you're a fucking stranger, you know. Anyway, Lucky Ego says, it's me the radical feminist. I don't hate your segment on LGBTQ Plus, Well that was kind of a joke. Listen, I'm gonna tell you right now. Okay, some of y'all right into the show. Y'all are volunteering to become a part of the show. And especially if you write in on some like I disagree type shit, I'm gonna tell you right now you are absolutely volunteering to become part.
Of the show.
Because I am going to forever notice and make fun of that.
Now.
I'm not saying I'm gonna be mean about it. I'm not gonna try to cust you out call your name, but like, you gotta be a good sport to write into this show. You know, look at Sean. Sean is a good sport. Sean used to write these dissertations that I didn't give a fuck about, and they was long, and they was tangential. Yeah yeah, and for the And honestly, the audience ain't stupid. They know that ship don't really got nothing to do with we're talking about, you know what I mean. But I can either stop reading the shit, right, these are my choices. Really, I can just ignore the feedback. I can read it dry until you get the point of being like, damn, they really don't like when I write in, or I can make some jokes about it. The audience sees the jokes, they hear the back and forth, and at least they can like get some some entertainment out of it. Agreed, Because I'm be real, no no offense. I guess it's only the only way take this is offensive. So I'm sorry. But actually I'm not sorry. But I don't really want to read no shit about somebody being transphobic every week on my fucking show. I don't care.
That's your battle, you know what I'm saying.
Like, that's something you should be You shouldn't just be reading it writing into a podcast. You should be like reading a book, looking up some resources checking out these spaces where trans people are telling their stories, looking at the people in the laws that advocate for and against trans people, and what is actually real, what is happening. Our space is not actually like a school space, it's not really an educational space. Part it has to be entertaining or people won't fuck with it. So I don't think you hate the segment. But it's funny to say you hate the segment, right, So I'm not gonna stop saying it because you wrote in to be like, I don't like this, And I think the joke wasn't that you hate the segment.
It was you.
It was because it was partially a joke. It was you hate one four the savent you cool with the LG hit to be when we get to the T you'd be like, god damn another one.
Right. And also one thing about us, in particularly about Roderick, you know, that's one way of us kind of having a conversation with the audience, is the jokey part of us, like that comes out in what we do.
Yeah, it's just yeah, it's either that I'm not gonna because I'm not. I'm sorry, but I'm not interfacing with this too. Seriously, it's just too it's you feel how you feel, and I don't think there's a rational, reasonable thing that we can just talk about it and you're gonna be like, oh, I see what you mean, right, maybe, but I can't let that be the point of my life anyway. I don't hate trans folks. I just disagree with the ideology. Yeah, it's the same way people disagree with the lifestyle of LGB people, you know, Like, what's to disagree with, you know?
Really? Yeah, just like some people disagree with the blacks.
Someone's telling you this is who I am and you're like, I disagree. Okay, Well, then what the fuck are we talking talking about. If someone if you're saying I'm a feminist and I went, okay, you're a feminist, and you went, okay, that's just an ideology. That's that's that's how I feel. Okay, that's an ideology. I hear you. If you told me I am a woman and I went, you know, I disagree, that's what we're talking about. If someone's telling you this is my experience, this is how this is my body, this is my feelings, and you're saying I disagree, okay, that I don't know. Why why do you keep writing in what what's supposed to happen here? I can't make you agree, and I've already said I'm accepting you at you disagree I at this point, I think you gotta look at yourself. Why do you want to talk about this? Why do you feel the need to keep talking about it? Because I already started with you vote the right way. I'm moving on because I don't really see no point in engaging and disagreeing and fighting about it. But it's something about like, I don't know, there's something about this that you can't let it go. You should be able to let this go at this point, because this is as good as it's gonna get. I've accepted it, and.
I let it go first.
I went, that's as good as it's gonna get. I'm not waiting on this person to come around. You know, I'm not a minister. I don't want to harm them, and I like to hear more about the pro side of the trans movement from you. But that's the thing. I'm not trans. I can tell you what I know, but I don't know the experience like that. I'm not There are some spaces and places you could go learn for real if you're serious. There's books, there's podcasts, Marsha's Plate podcasts I listen to. We We've actually had Diamond on the show before. Like, there's places that, to me, do a much better job than we can do because it's not our experience. We're just telling you what we think is fair and right and whatnot. And we're not always gonna be the best or get it right. We're just people with hopefully good hearts in the right place. I don't understand everything about being trans because I'm not right. You know. I have my thoughts and feelings, but I don't know. I mostly just go people should be allowed to live the life they want to live long they ain't hurt nobody, and I just be left alone. That just really seems simple to me. I think I hear mostly entire trans ideology in my real life and digital life. You're the only ones I listen to that tell me about the other side. It's nice to hear you guys talk about things on the other side of things. At the end of the day, I have my ideas, but I'm just going to my my own business, try not to hurt anyone. To tell Wyal said, I think that's I thought that's what we all agreed upon last time. I think we should be able to stop there because I think this, in addition to just taking up time, I also don't think this conversation is fruitful or going anywhere right.
It's going round in circles.
Yeah, and I and honestly, I do have a limit of patience, and at some point I could just like the eighteenth time we had this conversation and be like, Nigga, just be transphobica, leave me alone, and it's gonna be ugly, and then it's gonna be like you hurt my feelings, and this why I'm transphobic. I'm voting Republican next time I'm not. Maybe you'll say that, maybe you want. I don't even want to get to that point. I would just like to leave it at like close enough.
Close enough, close enough is enough.
Sometimes just because I have an opinion doesn't mean I have to share with everyone. It really affected me when Karen said she took my thoughts personally as an LGBTQ person herself. You said that Karen's not Yeah, Care's not an LGBTQ person. And I don't think she said that on the show. I love Karen and her thoughts. She seemed like a black woman like me and the whole of my family. I didn't realize she was part of the community. I wasn't trying to offend her her I'm trying to understand more. Well, she's not. But honestly, though, stop right there, let's take that in. It shouldn't have to take her being part of community for you to have that moment. But maybe that's the power of podcasting, that's the power of listening to people like us. Is it affected you in some type of way to be like, well, I'm just gonna tell you right now, we got tons of people that are LGBTQ that listens our show. Our show is a place where we see the community as a whole.
We invite everybody in. We fuck with everybody.
We're really not trying to stand on that the bullshit are like, oh, you trans, don't come to our show. No, please do come to our show. Like I can't guarantee anyone a save space and the way the internet guarantees it save space. But it's a space where the intent is for all of us right where you part of the community, part of the community. That's it. You know, it's really more of a mental thing than it is a mentality thing than it's a physical thing.
But those people hear your.
Words when you write in and I know those folks are upset and it is hurtful to them to hear that, to hear somebody like I just want you to take a step out of yourself for a second. And I always make this analogy, but take a step out of yourself for a second. And it's for everybody for the record, not just you make it a race thing. If you're black, you did talk about being black and a black feminist black woman is whatever it is, right say. Some white person wrote it to our show three four weeks in a row and they went, I don't understand why y'all keep saying that this country is masiding this as sexist. I voted Democrat, but I don't agree that it's harder to be a black woman than anybody else. I don't get with that mentality. Da da da da da. You might feel a little warm hearing me read this person's comments every week and be like, listen, man, I'm not saying you gotta stop fucking with our show or whatever, But I am.
Saying that.
We're not gonna ever agree on this, and I don't know what else to do with a person like you. I'm glad that you're voting the right way. I'm glad you're in our party, but at the same time, I can't, like, I can't really go beyond that for you, because what you're saying to me completely disagree with and I'm just trying to make sure that this is a place where it's not like, oh, I want you to leave the party and go vote Republican. I would prefer for you to continue to vote Democrat even though we disagree, and we can just move the fuck on from this shit. That's how I feel, right, But now you turn it into something like trans issues or gay issues or immigration or whatever, something that's one degree away from blackness, and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, no, that's fine, that's okay. But to me, I'm like, I feel that way about black shit, and the impact in me feels that way for other people, and like, yo, why the fuck would you even lead with that? You know what I'm saying, It seemed like you agree with us on ninety percent of things, keep that one under the hat did you just don't like it? And we just it's like everyone that writes a five star view to goes I disagree with some things. I don't know what it is. It don't really fucking matter. Damn fuck it.
You don't want to tell me.
And also I don't think I did. But if I ADVI gave you that impression, baby, that was not my intentions.
I don't think you did. I don't remember you doing that. I don't think anyone in the audience other than her thinks that. Okay, so I I yeah. But the point is it shouldn't really matter, you know, because you don't really know either one of us. Either one of us could be within the community and just not telling you either to uh, we could be. We have listeners that are in the community. You have guests out there in the community. We advocate for the community, We have empathy for the community, we treat we understand the community is our community too. Like you know, I think we was written up for Charlotte Prime magazine like we not.
We have were It's just not the space for to us.
It's not a debate on whether trans people are valid or not. It's not a debate on someone's being gay as valid not.
We just not.
The reason we don't engage in that back and forth is because to me, I'm past, I'm beyond we beyond that. We've already accepted this is just how it is, and so it's up to society and the world to adjust to it. Because gay people are gonna exist. Trans people are gonna exist, whether you like it or not, whether you are passing a bathroom bill or not. The point is they're gonna exist, and if they're gonna exist, it ain't hurt nobody. We just gotta stop. We just gotta let the ship go, go to therapy, read some read some books. We gotta move on. I don't want to make this no recurrent segment on the fucking show, because, like I said, I'm just being honest. I try to be as good a person as I can be, but we like two more exchanges. For me, just acting in a way that everybody like, damn Rod right, and then you're gonna be like that justifies my transphobia because look how they act, and I'm gonna be like, right, Roger gonna yet pushing it, Roger gonna be kicking you out of the tent Yeah, so let's just let's you know, let's want to stop it while the tent rid. This is as good as it's gonna get. We're not gonna agree, and I encourage you to do some research on your own. That's not listening to us because we're not even experts or even people that have the experience to be talking about this with any level of authority. And for the record, as I've said before, I don't even understand everything. But it ain't for me to understand all the time. It's not Sometimes you just gotta be like, I trust what you're saying. That's it. I don't think men are putting on dresses so they since men are putting on dresses so they can rape women. Last time I checked, men are doing pretty okay at just being fucking rapist. They're playing football right now at one to seventeen pm.
Yeah, they are out in the field.
They didn't have to put on a dress to do any of it.
They just get on. They just talk about chances in the press conference after the game, and everybody fucking forgets uh. To be honest, I've been very badly hurt by men in my life from a young age. I always look at trans people as men trying to pray on me or perve on me. That's what made me a femli. And I'm trying to protect women, but I'm really not trying to hurt anyone. I'm trying my best. Thank you for being black people who are like me. I'm also from inn see talking about this from your point of view? Yeah, well, you know, good luck, man. I think you got some work to do on yourself and then maybe you'll see because the facts matter over here, and you should probably have to look into the facts of it and not just how you feel. Check out the facts on it because the shit that people are alleging trans people are doing isn't happening. And if anything, trans people, especially black trans people, are much more likely to be harmed by somebody than to harm someone.
Yes, and that's just a fan statistically, Yes.
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Yes, more people are woke, but not enough.
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The poem was why I'm saved by the village people, gay admny yes, five say no. We got at least six people that left voicemails. So let's get to this segment as well, and play music in case I need to insert something here. All right, let's get to the first voicemail, A person who left three voicemails. All right, see what they did.
Hey, y'all, this is Marissa the This is my first time leaving a voicemail in like a decade because I'm millennial, so I don't do this. So I'll try to be quick and not be one of those embarrassing people. But listening to the feedback show that you guys just put out and I just got to get some off my chest.
So this Bernie shit is really driving me nuts, you know.
For personal reasons.
But one of the things that I did not anticipate coming out of this election was that Bernie bros. Are in my fucking mentions and old clips of our action against Bernie are going making their rounds on TikTok because basically, all these white leftists are like these folks, so the reason that Bernie's campaign didn't take off and they're the reason we have Trump. Now, I'm like, wow, Wow, the revision in this history is like insane on that to go back, try to go back like eight or nine years and blame black folks for the reason that y'all fucked up. And besides the fact that it's revision is history, because we did that during the primaries, by the way, and that's what made most of the candidates put out a criminal justice form package. It's just part of a larger thing that's like been so sad after the election, Like it's one thing to see half the country be like, no, explicitly fuck y'all, but then to see the other half, who was supposed to quote unquote be with y'all, supposed to quote unquote be the good ones immediately unprompted for no reason, turn and just be like, how about fuck black people? Not about fuck y'all, even though we're the only ones who who did the shit right, and so it's just like the resurgence of the Bernie ship. And essentially what they're saying at the end of the day is, oh, well, this is the right way, and black people are just too stupid or too ignorant to throw their support behind Bernie and it's just so fucked up and it's so racist, and it's just really sad because I'm like, it feels unnecessary at this point. But yeah, yeah, they basically they took it L and instead of talking to this oh my god, no.
It happened, Yeah, I became with those people.
Okay, Well, I'm saying it's just like, it's.
Really sad that the immediate response to taking the L is to target the most marginalized folks within the coalition and to do this for vision as ass history and black folks are the only ones who got information and did what the fuck they need to do, And yet.
Folks after election are like, yeah, well up the black folks, We'll call off the trans folks. And it's just not giving me a lot of hope for the future. But I'm like, bruh, if you think we're the reason why Bernie didn't take off, it's just just the Negros, just anyone's way. I don't think we have a pass forward. I don't, but anyways, yeah, that's something. This Bernie obsession now is not something I anticipated, and I just I don't think it's going to be productive for us.
All Right, Love y'all.
Hope y'all staying safe.
Bye.
And also it's super weird that they pulled those clips up on the man. Those clips are like eight years old. Yeah, yeah, because that was like twenty sixteen. That's crazy. They just had them shits on deck to be like, let's go out to these women again. Yeah. I've talked about burning many times on the show, and I don't know, he's like a pipe dream dude that I feel like it's his fault that he didn't turn that movement into something bigger. But it is what it is, you know. And yeah, the only thing for me on this path forward type shit is the only thing I've really seen wake white people up enough for them to vote Democrat has been some type of immense suffering as a country.
I'm talking about, like real suffering.
From just letting Republicans be in charged. I hate that they.
Take it over. The economy is trash, everything, tanks, housing, banking, everything is on the fucking Virgil collapse. Then they'd be like, well, damn, I guess.
So yeah, I think, you know, I wish it was as symbol as people say. With Bernie was just like, oh, he just wanted nice things, and we can all just have nice things. But as someone paid just a little bit of attention beyond just like putting his name on my shirt or whatever. It's like there were places he could have improved that he decided he didn't want to. And there's a reason that a lot of his support is white people. Like white people are a big part of that group, and they don't understand why because they don't they're so catered to they don't think about it. But part of the reason he was able to be who he is is like, I'm gonna give you the economic democrat policies, but I'm not going to bring up race, and I'm just not going to bring up any I'm not gonna bring up I think he called it identity politics, and that sounds good and to you if you're a white person, because what the lack of identity politics is is why identity is the politics? Yes, and when because anytime they say identity politics, like he's like, I don't want to talk about black people, black women, trans issues, reparations, whatever, I don't want to talk about that shit. And it's like okay, but then you're not gonna win those votes. And if you're running as a Democrat or at least to the progressive side, you're gonna need a coalition. You can't just win with white people. You do need other people because there's a lot of white people that don't want to vote for a Jewish socialist. That's just what it is, right.
And also the thing about Bernie and Lotties Bernie Bros. You know, Bernie's old. So when Bernie leaves here, Bernie has not set up anybody else to continue to pass this shit down. So that's another reason why I can't take you seriously, because you're not even quote unquote training somebody to quote unquote continue to push your agenda like nobody's ever heard of anybody else, because when it comes to Bernie, it's just Bernie and no one else.
Said years ago they should have been setting up need a turner to take the the mantle Frome.
She's young, she's younger than him.
She's a black woman, and even if she's had the same talking points as him, many people would be like, well, she's a black woman, so obviously she must understand some of these other issues that are beyond just the economy. But they knew not to run her black ass for some reason. Right, all right, she left one more voicemail.
Okay, it's Mursa again, third times a charm. But Africans just move on Twitter and seen Bertie's theaters tweeting's talking about great, we've there.
I believe that yep.
Yep, Bernie told us who he was.
Man.
I know people don't want to hear that shit. That are his like big supporters, but like, be mad at him the same way you be mad at Democrats for not running a perfect campaign. Be mad at him because he had all the all the markings of a person that could have come in and given everybody what they wanted, and he decided that I really would rather.
Just court just the white vote.
And twice he found out that shit did not work.
It's not enough to beat you can't. You can't beat the Democrats with just that. I think this voicemail is blank. But yeah, okay, someone just made an accidental butt. Now all right, next one, see what this one is. I don't even know this AHI.
This is Sharon Chapman. I think I am in love with your show, with your podcast. I would like to take advantage, and you have a black Friday special so I can just get more of y'all on demand. Oh, but for the love of Pete and all heaven above, I don't know how to do it. I don't know where to go to make this all right.
Well, I almost stop this so that your personal information don't get on the rod. But sales over. But yeah, at any rate you want to go, email me. The blackoutis at gmail dot com. That's the best way. I've said it a million times on the show. It's in the show notes. Email is best. Please email, that's it. Voicemail is not best. We check them once a week. The the social media DM horrible ideas. Some of y'all just DM me over and over and over. I had to turn the notifications off because nigga, I'm not on there just to get constant, not like look at this reel. Look at this reel. Look at this reel. If I tap in, when I tap in, then I'll see the DMO. Just email as always is the best way. It's the only thing I really keep notifications on for all.
Right, let the next voicemail, Hey, Ron and Karen, this christ off again. I'm just calling to let you guys know that I am one of those girls. I am one of those girls. Yes, Drake on my spotifire rapp Drake was number one for me and usually in prior years I will share my Spotify and rap on Instagram in Twitter. I would do that. This year, I can't. I can't let him know.
I can't.
I can't let anyone know that Drake is my still my number one. I mean can't drink is number two. But no, no, not not not doing it. No, I mean like like break lost, he lost, and he's a bach for the whole litigation stuff. So I can't do it.
I am.
I am one of those negroes, probably one of those negroes that Drake is still my number one listen artist, but I will not be publicly sharing that information. As always, I appreciate both of you, and I hope people have a wonderful holiday, and thank you for this always providing such amazing content.
I know you shame because you whispered the voice.
Yeah, it's somebody else in the room.
You're talking like your baby's sleep. I can't wake nobody up. I can't let nobody know this business.
I'm sorry for those of y'all. I just realized I didn't have the sound setting right, So some of y'all that listen on YouTube later won't hear to sound fully. And that's I'm sorry because that was a fun voicemail. But here's my thing, Christoph. If a transfhobe can listen to the show and right in every week, then god damn it, Yo, Drake ass can can go ahead keep listening to the show even though he's in your top number one rapped on Spotify. Okay, maybe you go to the gym a lot. Maybe you're out here running. I don't know. Maybe you need some mindless shit while you working. I don't know. But this is what I talk about when I say we need to make our spaces a little less restricted.
Yeah, we're not gonna kick you out of their team.
I see you the same as people that hate trans people. Okay, I see you the exact same, But you can still listen big tit. Okay, we're gonna.
Be the big ten. Should you have told us that?
Probably not? Will you regret it? Probably will? I make jokes about it. Absolutely, So don't be right in here with your feelings next week like I can't listen. I didn't know. I didn't know ro I was gonna go to the Kingdric concert. I would have never said the things I said.
I'm sorry. Maybe tickets already about.
All right, y'all? Next voicemail, Hi, Rod and Karen.
This is my first time calling. My name is Londa. I've been listening to yours for like since twenty sixteen. I want to thank you guys for all the work you've done. This has been a really trying year for me. Have youson lost my mother, and your podcasts have me informed and gave me so much joy. You don't believe it. I lost her in August, but she's been sick for a while, and listen to you helped distract me a little bit, took me out my world, made me last h I'm kind of nervous and and also I called the thank you Karen for all the work you've done. But I also call to think the tippers. I just received one of the donated premium accounts. I once was a premium member, but I had to let go of my premium account because of financial reasons. And then I wanted to think the blackouted Tips guardines because there is some of the best. I don't get to often interact with them because I'm busy at the time you guys go live, but I have been in the chat room so a few times and they're always a pleasure. And I just wanted to say thank you, all of you in the representation of a great audience and this environment. Thanks again. I can't I'm gonna get in the time of emotions. I'm gonna get off right now, but thank you so much. And I really really appreciate everything you guys do I have. I wish I was more eloquent to say more and I wasn't so nervous right now. Okay, this is Linda again. I'm not gonna say much anymore. I next time, if I call in, I will write stuff down. I thought I could do this off the cuff, but I don't know why. Talking to the phone, bid the voicemail. It's making me nervous. My user name is Stella, and I would have wanted to let the tippers know, I appreciate them and thank them, and thank the person who donated the premium account. I appreciate it. Thank you guys, you guys have a great holiday, and thank you for everything you do, and thank you be blussed buss.
Oh Man, thank you, sorry for you.
Yeah, our condolences on the loss of your mother, obviously, you know it's very sad. I'm always happy that we can help people get through stuff like that, because you know, podcasts have definitely helped me through some tough time. You know, It's like ship was going down and I'm like, let me just tune out for a while, listening to some voices I trust and and and enjoy and pass some of the time away. And yeah, man, I mean, our audience is a testament to like, if you want to know what kind of product you're making, look at your audience. Look you, whatever they own is what the fuck you making. And if you don't see that, then you're in a denial. So you got a mean ass audience. You're doing some mean ass work you got, you know, I was listening to uh, well, I'm sure we're getting to it later in the week, but Andrews show was complaining about how some Kendrick Lamar fans death threatened him on the internet. But because Andrew Schulz has a shitty audience, because he makes kind of like mean content, he can't really play victim too much because it's like, Nigga, your audience has definitely harassed a bunch of people. So he went, well, we can't control what our audiences there, and I went, yeah, you can't really control what your audience has done. It's only a colt leader things. They can do that shit, but it don't come out of nowhere. It don't come out of nowhere. And the fact that you have an audience that participates in this kind of shit and you ain't never checked them that that said something, you know what I mean, That's why they do it. So it is what it is when it comes to you putting out that kind of work into the world. But if you look at your audience and they taking care of each other, they civically engaged, they community minded, that means you're doing something good. So I always look at that as like a badge of honor. Whenever I see our audience doing cool shit, I'll be like, oh man, we linked up with some cool people. Cool people like our shit and you know, so far, so good. We haven't really like run into a lot of fans where we were like you know what I mean, Like it's it's.
Always like a good vibe.
So all right, last one.
Hey, Rylane karon Is, I just want to say thank y'all so much for the work that y'all are doing. I'm still covering the election the way that you have covered, you know, the entire thing, but really keeping conspiracy theory at bay. I'm going to be honest to say I started going down the rabbit hole. I'm really trying to not become a conspiracy theorist. And I think in part is because having to grapple with the fact that people just hate black women so much that they would turn the country over to this man. I think there's a to me that still doesn't want to accept it. Like finding out that people were like, you know, googling, what is the tear off? Can I change my vote? It's like the time to ask these questions was before the election, right and finding out that y'all really just voted for this man, not because of any policy, although you try to convince us there was, but just because you didn't want the black lady. I'm working on that, becoming a consciously person. But the other thing I wanted to mention is, I'm gonna do this quick.
Why.
I know you covered Andrew Schultz in his comments towards Kendrick, but I heard more of the interview and he actually like did a siddely veiled threat for like, say, Kendrick. But I'm really just waiting for Charlemagne to say something because when he said don't let white comedians talk about black women that also includes black men, I mean it doesn't, but it's implied. So I'm waiting to see what Charlemagne's gonna say. Anyway, love y'all can't wait to hear the next show, Have a good day.
I did see that after the fact. I don't listen to this podcast, so I only saw the clip. Actually talk to my friend who does listen to the podcast and see what he thought about it, because I'm just I don't know for the life I'm just not that kind of person that can really fuck with a show like that, to be honest, But uh, charlm ain't gonna say what he always say, not a motherfucking thing that's his that's his man's that like the same the same the same way that Van Lethan not fit to say shit that's their mans. Like they can pretend to be righteous about everybody but themselves, but at the end of the day, like that shit is convenient, like they are. They are aligned with these dudes like they they texting, They in the same rooms. They need, they need that, you know what I'm saying, Like if you if expecting Charlemagne to have a backbone to do that he piles around with in front of us, is there's a zero per chance that'll ever happen, right, you know? If anything, Charlemagne and those type of guys that they're big because they don't you know what I mean, Like they're big because they don't and they all have their own shit with them anyway. You know, Charlemagne went through his stuff where he lost that TV show over past sexual assault accusations and allegations that resurface like he did.
One of these guys are heroes, man.
They they're entertainers and they they will speak up for stuff that is convenient. They speak up for stuff that doesn't cost them anything. But they're not gonna speak up in a way that keeps them out of a room and I haven't even seen the clip fully yet, but we're gonna play it on the show. And I'm one hundred percent sure that Charlemagne sits right next to him, the same way that that black dude sits right next to Andrew Schultz every week, and they let him do his thing.
Like the job is not to really have a backbone.
The job is to watch that man do what the fuck he do and hope you reap some sort of benefit. You know.
I don't know their business relationship like that.
I don't know any of that stuff, but I know they have one, and I know that in some type of way they both see it's mutually beneficial to be seen with each other. Yes, they've been making content together four years time, Like it is what it is, man like the less you expected them to better and then you'll be pleasantly surprised when they do speak up. Like we give people way too much, in my opinion, we give people way too much for shit that I to me ain't even that lotder, Like we shouldn't even be lotting that that shit that much. Like it's just like okay, you know, like Van Lathen is a thing because Kanye West said slavery was a choice, and he checked them Okay, cool, and then he worked for TMZ Maga dude for years until that took until it got personal for him. For him, it's all of us can be and they're human like this. This is gone to some people. Is gonna sound like I'm judging them in a in a harsh way.
I'm not.
I'm saying we should not expect. These aren't black leaders. These are people that much. These are people that are kind of like influencers and entertainers and a lot of times like the wave is the wave, but to get into the room that they end, the waves come and go, meaning that when it was convenient to point out racism in the way of George Floyd, them motherfuckers was talking about racism when the when the getting was good and white peoples like anti woke d y'all, they kind of backed off a little bit. And when it's their homeboys, oh fucking integrity to them, Integrity is keeping they homeboys back.
It's not.
It ain't that so it is. It is. It is what it is. Man Like, I you know, I'm sorry that you was even expecting Charlemagne to possibly give you something out of that because he ain't fitting to do that, that that ain't even his lane, and he I think, and I also I don't think he wants to put himself up to that scrutiny because we also have a society that does not reward the people for change behavior or for standing up in other times when you sat down. The only thing that would do for Charlemagne is that everybody would pull out the times that he was okay with it, or that he himself was in the hot seat for some sexual comment comments or conduct or something. And at the end of the day he probably was like, let me get the fuck out of that. So, oh, she's in a chat, okay. Keanu said she wasn't expecting anything from Lenard. All right, Well, I can't. I didn't know. I couldn't tell if you was joking or not. But you it sounded like you was kind of serious about like, I want to see what you're gonna say. I'm just saying same shit he always says this, anything else. All right, we get to these voicemails, I mean emails, get to these emails. Sorry, I made a mistake.
It's like you.
All right. Actually, first emails from Kia is also kind of long. Oh and as far as the conspiracy theorist thing, I mean, y'all just know I'm not I'm not going down the road. I'm sorry. I think it's some of the lowest common denominator content, and I think it leaves you and your audience right for misinformation disinformation, and uh, I think we just need a little more evidence before and we need to base shit in facts and truth if we can. You know, I'm not saying this never warranted, but I'm not going down no rabbit hole conspiracy theory. I read way too many fucking books about America and racism for me to be like, it can't be that. Listen, Okay, that shit is. That shit is the number one answer to everything, the grift that is. Bernie sanders Kianus says, I'm so sorry in advance for what may end up being along email. I've had the distinct honor of running into Farah Bernie and Drake Tory Lane supporters in the wilds is still election.
I don't know which group of supporters more delusion.
On Drake asking to speak to a manager about Kendrick Song is the most Caucasian thing he could have possibly done, and watching him crash out so publicly has tickled that little part of my brain that enjoys being mean. I should probably talk to a therapist about that. I don't think so. As for a Bernie Bros. I ran into a neighbor a few days after election. He said, I look like I vote Democrat because I am a black woman. I asked. He asked how I was doing. I explained, I was disappointed, but not surprised that this racist ass country we just filled with racist ass people would do some racist ass shit. I stated, and reiterated that the reason Kamla didn't win all boys down there being a black woman. I pointed out that if the ticket had been reversed in ten Whiles had been the candidate, they ran on her ideas and the election may have turned out differently. Because this country trust white men in ways they don't trust anyone else. Despite century, it prooved that we shouldn't. This is when he led his slip that he is an avid Bernie supporter and insisted if we ran Bernie in twenty sixteen, all our problems will be fixed by now. I pointed out that Bernie refused to try to understand that the black Democratic voting base, and of course he brought up that Bernie Marsh with King in the sixties hashtagged Bernie so Black. When I pointed out that happened decades ago, and that Bernie called black grievance identity politics and called Black Democratic voters who didn't vote for him low information, he pushed back and told me I was wrong. I mean, he did do those things. Those are facts. You can just look those up. That's not anyway. When I mentioned how he refused talks about reparations, which is something most black people never expected to get and know that MLK was in favorite reparations, he shifted to say, and the question of reparations is a loaded question and Bernie couldn't publicly support that, and went over poor white people. Yeah, that's the fucking point, nigga. When I point out that MLK supported it and worked tirelessly as building coalitions with white people, poor whites, he shifted to say black people are too conservative to vote for Bernie. The gold Post kept moving. Eventually I gave up. I ended the conversation when I told him, you can't socialism your way out of racism and sexism, especially when socialist candidate refuses to acknowledge them. He responded that Bernie would have ended racism, like ended racism, as in, it doesn't exist anymore.
That's see.
This is the thing, right, that's the thing with Bernie. He They always talk about black people being low information for not supporting Bernie. But I would push back and say a lot of the Bernie white voters are very low information because if you listen to them, they don't they're not policy informed. They start saying, like, you don't want good things. He was gonna do all the good stuff. Racism one would be over with no more sexism. And that's crazy. That's just like, that's like talking to a religious person. At that point, you're not talking facts or policy. You just saying shit. Very akin to the Trump voter, Yes, yes, very akin to how Trump voters can say he ran a campaign on love and inclusion. You're like, no, he didn't, And why do you think you can say that to me with a straight face. And I'm supposed to just be like, oh, well, if you say so, I guess I must have missed that part. Nah, bro, the white supremacy you have to harbor deep down to believe eight years of a black president who, in my opinion, maybe the best president's country has ever had, wasn't good enough to end racism. But four years if something old that has white man was gonna clear America's death is astounding and conclusion. Bernie supporters are the Drake fans of politics and Drake fans out of Bernie bros. Or hot hip hop. Thanks for coming to my ted talk. The last thing I want to point out about the election is, I know we all thought losing Rod was going to be enough to get white women to act like to have some sense. What I discovered is election night is that many states had referential questions all their to enshrine reproductive rights into their state constitutions. That this, in part, I think accounts for why some swing states went red dis election. White women got to keep their racism and reproduction rights as or so they think. Anyway, Love y'all, thank you, k.
Yeah, there's also one of those things, you know when it comes to Bernie, and I will forever say this, Bernie is not a Democrat, you know, so it's like he's running on a party, like he's running on on a ticket because he knows independence in this country aren't going to win. And like you say, a lot of his people are very low information because a lot of them got mad with it came time to vote in certain states because they was complaining about the laws. He was like, bitch, read the laws. I can't vote. No, you can't because you rested as an independent. This is democratic. It's closed. Bitch. You need a D by your name, like so you know shit like that. But you know, y'all running for a man, and you behind him and you support him. You don't even know the laws and your goddamn state, get out my faith.
Yeah, it was, it is what it is.
Man.
He'll appealed to a certain type person. And I do get that that type of enthusiasm is good and you want that around your campaign. But I think every turn, I think Bernie had the numbers to know he couldn't win with just white people, and he just refused to change anything about his campaign. And it's been years now and he's doing shit like he'll power around with Elon Musk and Donald Trump and Republicans and be like they're right, And I'm like, who's being served by this shit? You were supposed to be the leader of the country. Get out of here. Aaron actually did send an Amazon gift message. She's the person that sent us those bowls.
Thank you baby the.
Super Side bows, she says. The message said happy holidays Rider, Karen, and a very happy twenty twenty five. I appreciate you too, so thank you, and I'm sorry they didn't put your message in there with it, but I'm glad you remember to send it to it. El Boogie says, our heart things. I want to thank the two of you for speaking up for the LGBTQI A plus queer community, particularly in episode three threeenty fifteen, Tolerance Under the Big Ten. Early in the episode, you talked about Joe Rogan with his kind of we just kind of allowed as shit approach to racism on the shows, and how black people end up moving away from that content because of it. For me, the same can be true when it comes to being queer and consumer of black media. I'm a black queer person. I find it difficult to find spaces where I feel welcome. Queer spaces are all primarily white, it could be very racist. Black spaces tend to be very anti gay, or they take the Joe Rogan, we just kind of allowed that shit approach. The homophobia in or transphobia. I know, I know, man, I know, and it's just as bad man, I know, and it it bothers me every time. It's like a needle skin is like a record scratch. I don't know why we play around with that shit right over there. We know, I know, we I know, we know how it feels to be on the other end of that type of shit, and you would think that we would make it. I don't know. I guess everybody's just tempted by the allure of lording something over somebody. God damn, for the life of me, I'll never really understand black people that like think homophobia is cool, but don't really fuck with white people that do any level of racist shit, right, Like, I kind of get it for there's a certain type of black people. And let me not dismiss these black people out of hand, because they do exist. There's a type of black person that is, like, I'm okay with people being racist towards black people if it's funny to me. You know, your Andrew Schultz listeners, you're you know, that type of person. It's like it's fine to me. And I guess they're being consistent cause they like, when I create my own space, I'm gonna talk shit about everybody too.
I guess it's just for me as a black person.
I'm like, you can't see that it's different for you though that, but you know whatever. But yeah, I don't like it either, and I try not to make our podcast like that. I just don't get why people do that. And it's not really out of it's just us being us. It's not even really out of like a there's no there wasn't a strategy.
And of course, you know we're not perfect.
We're not we're not gay, so we don't have we don't have LGBTQ, what we don't have all the I don't I can't see you know everything. I'm sure I've said some shit that people don't like, and vice versa, same with Karen and whatnot. But and also in that episode, I don't think we really stood or did any I don't I legitimately do not think there was anything special about that conversation we had. And I'm not saying that in a dismissive way to be like, cause like, because every we should always be like I just I really do not think that conversation was of that much. Note, just because I don't think we've we really didn't have much of a conversation. It's just like, uh, you might be transphobic. We're just not gonna do that shit here, and good luck in your normal life now, and and please continue to vote in a way that will help trans people. But I'm not fighting. I'm not arguing with y'all asks every day, so you know, but honestly, but you know, let me stop, because that's not fair to you. If you felt that that was cool and something you want to see in the show, I don't want to dismiss that out of hand either, because it does matter, and so I do take it as a positive. That's somebody who's like, I'm in this community, and I appreciate y'all not backing down from loving and supporting this community. So yeah, let me take that, because I actually hate when motherfuckers give somebody a compliment and then they be like, really, I mean, honestly, it's nothing to me, it's not even special.
Take the compliment, rod, So thank you, thank you.
It was for both of us. So I don't know why you're saying, Rod.
Well, take the compliment, you too, caring.
Yeah, So thank you, but in this episode you two did not have to take to address one of the commenters.
Thank you for doing that and for leaving a rainbow hue light on for us.
Peace.
I love l Boogie twenty five, no doubt. Yeah, it's just funny because you go back years ago and that would have went a totally different way that you know. Now, in hindsight, I wonder how much of that was just me being performative or whatnot, because I would have cussed them off.
Fucker, I would have cussed somebody out, like.
What the fuck like, And I just don't think it's fruitful at this point, Like it's not even a matter. I feel the same way, Like I still have the same there's so many things in my mind where I feel I feel the same way. But I think I've mellowed out as I've like realized the job of this show is still to be able to communicate certain things, and coming at people too hard right away typically shuts them down and then they play victim and act like everyone else is the problem. And so I'm trying to get away from that, but I'll be thinking the same stuff.
Yeah, you know, Yeah, that's why you know, my brain has a filter in it. Like I said, Roger, get the unfiltered version, but yeah, my brain has a big old filter and shit has to be filtered through.
I used to like, we used to get people that write into the show and be like, I disagree with the gay lifestyle, and I used to go to fuck off of them people every time. But also another thing, you realize if you do something like this long enough, those people are rewarded by the attention of you going off and they continue to write in even more because they enjoyed the attention.
Whether whether it's good or bad. It's back and forth as far as they're concerned.
Yeah, and they feel like you're making them equal to you, like we're having a conversation. What I'm actually just cussing your ass out. But to that person, I'll never convince them that we didn't just have an exchange of ideas. And then they always at some point get offended and take it like, oh, you can't talk to me civilly, and I'm like, I think you're a homophobe. All I said was all I said was gay people make me uncomfortable and shouldn't exist. You know.
It's just yeah, yeah, Roger said, we came along way and we handled those things well. I get caring, dude.
Just I be the one caussing y'all out, she be the one after the show is over. Like, I can't believe they wrote in like that. I'm like, you should have said that when we was there, instead of making me look like I was just wilding out by myself.
He got my moral support, listener feedback, and also that time be funny. I'm mature too, so you know, back in the day, I was a bit more quieter on those things. But as the time went on, and as I realized that my voice is just as valuable as yours objects because I didn't realize how valuable my voice was, and I didn't realize how much people actually, you know, listening to what I was saying and actually took in what I was saying. I thought my voice was just kind of going out into the void. Then I realized, oh, people are listening, so it you know, y'all listening and actually writing in and leaving comments, leaving feedback all just say it gave me the growth and gave me the kind of the battery and a push that I needed to be like, oh, I think these things. I can actually say these things and it's gonna be okay.
Yeah, and that is true. You have definitely grown in your voice. And I mean, look, just this week, that person that I talked to did most of the talking with about the transshit. It took one misunderstanding of a Karen comment for them to be like, I didn't mean nothing. I'm sorry, Like, oh, okay, all my logic and reasoning fuck that, it don't matter you miss her. Karen was like, listen, she a black woman, and I'm sorry.
Don't fuck it up. Ride.
You don't care nothing.
About Quinnell says, what's good y'all? Love time listener from up north in Pennsylvania Road.
I mean privadence, Rhode Island. Appreciate.
Hearing your thoughts and voices on a weekly basis really helps my mentoring process, challenge inspired thoughts on my own. At one request, it will be dope to hear Karen read some articles or be the game host for guests the Race or another seven from time to time, of course, only if she's comfortable with it. But from an audience perspective, Karen's energy would be dope to hear reading guests the Race, articles and hearing the question the real racist co hosts of the show Love y'all with Love and Flowers Chef Q.
The thing is, I'm not gonna lie. I uh, I wur out the jobs. So a lot of times I do this. I have another job. I also do lab me and Roight you rotate last week on Keith and the Girl and stuff like that, So I do a lot. So a lot of times I just kind of like showing up as the talent. I'm not gonna be trying to be fun. I do do stuff other stuff of the podcast, but for I like to show up as a talent. I like to just kind of as my day wraps up in I can just kind of jump on and let Roger do.
All of the work.
I was aside, like he does all the researching, finding the articles. Me and you audience were going through the ship for the first time. He's already fleshed out all those emotions, so we were.
Riding a roll coast to that gap.
So why Roger over there concentrating and thinking and people commenting on how he is and is not paying me attention in the background, making jokes and shit and doing my own thing.
And I like that I'm not even gonna lie.
I actually absolutely like that I could do that, but that would require more of my time that I'm not willing to give up right now. I'm not even gonna lie because it will actually cost me more prep time, and I'm like, oo, I got enough, it's not enough hours in the day.
Also, Karen does she is for some reason, it is kind of nervous about reading aloud in public and reading aloud, so and then you motherfucking hyper ass pay attention to ass. Motherfuckers would be definitely leaving comments and making it more insecure and fucked up, because I mean, y'all be right, not you particularly cute, but just in general. You know how much she wearing. She wearing a blanket today. I noticed Rod face like he was looking down and then he looked up. Won't happen nothing like they You can stumble over an article or some ship and you get some God forbid, it's like it's gonna be some fucking thing to it.
Yeah, let let let Roger do it. Because now, just aside, when it comes to that thing, Roger's I'm gonna tell you right now, on certain things, Rogerck has thicker skin, and I don't, so you know, I don't won't be up here being like loot mo fuck. I'm trying to bast O cake like. I won't be that person. So I'll let Roger read the article.
I just wanna laugh every time I fuck up a name or something. I do act like you know, she never heard no funny joke before.
But I do, cause that's fun. But it ain't.
It ain't fun when you on the other side. I see what.
Roger go through. Chi Boo. Let me be back here and make the jokes with y'all.
He said voicemails when he meant emails hilarious.
Jokes.
Karen says, Hello, Rod and Karen. I'm not sure if this is how people leave show comments. So give me for the wrong place and right and say thank you for the premium suscription. I've been listening for more than ten years, and I credit so much for my growth to this show. Y'all are the reason I don't hate kim Ka Taylor Swift anymore. Thank you. I'm not gonna lie kind of wish you use some other examples. Not that I'm not that I'm not that that's wrong. I like, I do like to grow but I think it would have It would have made me feel better if it was like I used to hate gay people, but I don't know more. I don't know what the fuck was on me. He was like, I listen, these white women that everybody already gives all the money in time to. I don't hate them no more, but I feel you though, it actually is growth that that group thing online is fucking strong, and you really gotta break it, man, because you gotta be your self. Like that's so it's so important to be yourself because motherfuckers really will try to control your brain with that bullshit. And I really I'm not I hate to make it sound over like I'm overstating it or conspiratorial, but I truly genuinely see it that way now where it's like it feels like a thought experiment, like if I can make this motherfucker hate Kim Kardashian, I can make this motherfucker do with anything as opposed to just be like, I actually don't give a fuck about them white ladies. They seem okay or alright to me and not really my business. I don't need to hate them. What do you get out of me hating them? You know, but I'm glad that that we you know, I'm sure there's other things too. That's what I'm saying, kim Kay Taylor Swift don't need our help, but you know what I mean.
And I'm glad that you wrote in about that because that's the stuff to imagine. And the thing about the group, think everybody needs your group. You need to be part of the group, but you also, particularly on line, need to understand what the group's purpose is and if you actually align with the group, because the thing about the group, the group will lead you to your death. So sometimes you got to be like, hey, y'all had y'all going down the cliff. Oh, I don't want to die because y'all are wrong, but nobody wants to be individuals enough sometimes to kind of be like I got to lead this group that just going off the cliff with everybody else.
Yeah.
I also think like we went too far with the Internet where people can only be real in private. That's that's not that's not okay, right, So you know, I don't think what we're doing is necessarily brave or special, but I just think it's honest and somehow being tepidly honest is like some revolutionary shit right now to be like, oh no, I like, like, I don't listen to much of her music, but I think Taylor Swiftson is like good ad you just like, what's wrong with y'all? I didn't say nothing, something crazy like what's the proof that that she's a terrible personn't Isn't that what we were doing before? You had to prove something was fucked up, and then we would take the proof and be like, there's the evidence, and that's why we don't funk with them, right you know. Meanwhile, y'all be making all kinds of excuses for certain people and shit, And I'm so grateful to be behind the paywhile I felt like I've been spotted in the crowd and letting the VP love the show, Thank you, Terry, well, thank them, and I actually listen Linda who left a voicemail, but she also left an email thinking it's and it's basically the same thing, So I won't, I won't.
I actually I thought that she thought that.
The voicemails were like embarrassing and we should delete them. I didn't read this to this now girl, them they were perfect, Yes, they were they were nice. They were sweet, they were succeed The audience loved them.
In the chat they did.
Trust you, you're good. You're good to go. There's no need to feel bad about any of that stuff. All right, last thing, got a couple of things in the mail. Let's see what we got.
Yay, we did. We checked the mail yesterday and the people at the mailbox was like, y'all got a bunch of shit.
It says that time yet because we also get screeners movies for our movie reviews and stuff that I watch sometimes justin watches with me. But it's always interesting with the movie review shit because because like half the time is Netflix sending a bunch of shit that I can just stream. I'm like, I don't need a sweater, but thank you a cool Shane and Tink send us a card wishing you a very happy holiday. Look at this beautiful family.
Okay, something else to add to my collection. I got four hundred and fifty nine calls and I'm gonna hold on to them all.
And I believe Tink is a dog because on the back I think that's Tink chilling in that chilling right there.
Adorable Happy holidays.
Sending you chairing, good visor, season May twenty five, Bring you Joy, laughter, warrenth Love, Piece and all that you desire Love the Smith family. Thank you.
Hey, we like cards, send us cards.
We also got some Amazon packages, which I assume are from our Amazon wishler.
This yeah, and like right, just say, we don't never know what we're gonna get. He put sh it on that and I do too.
Yeah, so this is the first one. It's a vacuum sealer. Definitely something Karen put.
On the list. Yes, it is. We had We had went to go see l Joe Williams and she had one and I put it on the list.
And god damn it, I don't see a card with it. Like, I don't see if you left a note to say, hey.
Did Amazon just stop doing that shit?
I don't know what happened. They used to do it right, Like you could leave a little message or something and you would get like a separate thing. Yeah that would actually print out the message. Yeah, it just says GIF receipt and the receipt received, but it doesn't say who is from a message?
Okay, but you know, email or write in or whatnot.
Thank you? But yes, a v S six six one twelve food vacuum sealer.
So when you marinate stuff, you can set it up in that.
I don't, I don't. I don't know, Karen. I'll have to look it up on you too. There's another kitchen gadget taking up room on the shelf that I don't know how to use, and we'll see if I ever do. Karen went and put a bunch of sealing shit on the on the list, apparently because last week it was sealing fruit that we got in the mail.
Oh yeah, you and you put potatoes in it and tomatoes in it, and you know when we cut a tomato and half because it's designed to stretch over it. It's just two of us.
I don't really be selling nothing in any Oh now this okay, Now this I do like now. I didn't put this on the list either. I was some calendars on the list this week because I always buy We keep actual physical calendars around here, and I think we keep about three or four in the house. And uh, it's about obviously, you guys know, it's about to flip over to a new year, and I need to put them count some new calendars up. And I was about to just go get on myself, but I said, oh, I can put these on the list. So if you're looking at the Amazon wish list, just in the show notes and you're like, man, all these gifts seem like things Karen picked out, and Ride is kind of like, oh, more work for me. I mean, look a look at the calendars. Not to be ungrateful, I think everything we got this year was some Caring put on the list. You're goinna just take Caring stuff off the list.
You better not.
Anyway, this is an awesome gift. It's a window back, like a vacuum cleaner for like windows and shit. Now I didn't put this on the list. Karen put this on the list, and I do like this so as bad. None of them are bad. They're just not stuff. They just work.
This is technically work. That's probably for.
Me too, Yeah it is, you know, I ain't doing it.
See it's just like at least be making your job easier.
Yes, they are.
When you end up taking care of Caren, you don't have to get them. You have to get the mop in the broom out no more. You can get the vacuum window.
And at least you could vacuum seal.
That's their food now.
Save your five more minutes that you can be cooking with. All right, y'all, that's it. They talking about Karen need to read an article Amazons, look like she does stuff around here. All right, y'all, that's it. We'll be back throughout the week. We appreciate y'all, thanks for listening, Thank you for the feedback. If you want to do, the Amazon wishless thing is right there. Thank you. Everybody donated to the five K as well. That's going to children's programs at the y m C. A uh and yeah, until the next time, I love you, I love you too. Why