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Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy to his podcast. I'm your host, Rod, join us always by my co host, and we're live. It's a Monday night. We're ready to do some podcasting for y'all. Find us everywhere you get your podcasts. Search The Black Guy Who Tips. Leave us five star reviews on Apple Podcasts. We love reading those on our feedback show that we do on Saturday. The official weapon of the show is photlden chair, that's correct, and the unofficial sport and bulletball extreme. All right, this episode is just gonna be kind of quick and dirty. I think we'll see maybe an hour and a half from now, we still talking about who Knows. But I didn't really put it in too much of a format because I only really want to talk about a couple of things, Okay, and you know they're they're important things, of course, but you know, if we get the other ship, we get the other ship.

Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy to his podcast. I'm your host, Rod, join us always by my co host, and we're live. It's a Monday night. We're ready to do some podcasting for y'all. Find us everywhere you get your podcasts. Search The Black Guy Who Tips. Leave us five star reviews on Apple Podcasts. We love reading those on our feedback show that we do on Saturday. The official weapon of the show is photlden chair, that's correct, and the unofficial sport and bulletball extreme. All right, this episode is just gonna be kind of quick and dirty. I think we'll see maybe an hour and a half from now, we still talking about who Knows. But I didn't really put it in too much of a format because I only really want to talk about a couple of things, Okay, and you know they're they're important things, of course, but you know, if we get the other ship, we get the other ship.

But it's not like major.

But it's not like major.

The first thing I wanted to say, because I did promise to talk about two things. One I want to talk about that paper about social media. See if we can glean anything from it. I think that's kind of cool. Let's go uh and then the other thing, which I'll talk about first, we we'll get into. Have you seen this this thing with Kamala Harris where she's put out the the like black man agenda type thing that that every that that certain black men were asking for.

The first thing I wanted to say, because I did promise to talk about two things. One I want to talk about that paper about social media. See if we can glean anything from it. I think that's kind of cool. Let's go uh and then the other thing, which I'll talk about first, we we'll get into. Have you seen this this thing with Kamala Harris where she's put out the the like black man agenda type thing that that every that that certain black men were asking for.

I think I may have.

I think I may have.

It's a list, I think, but but I didn't be paid any attention.

It's a list, I think, but but I didn't be paid any attention.

I saw a tweet.

I saw a tweet.

It had like five items in the tweet that she unveiled. Now this goes full circle back to you know, Barack Obama was talking to a group of black men who presumably are voting for Kamala Harris. They're at a support event for her. I'm assuming these are not on the fence.

It had like five items in the tweet that she unveiled. Now this goes full circle back to you know, Barack Obama was talking to a group of black men who presumably are voting for Kamala Harris. They're at a support event for her. I'm assuming these are not on the fence.

Guys.

Guys.

We kind of talked about this a little bit Saturday, and you know, I still basically feel the same way about it, which is, you know, while I'm not this incensed, like there are people that just kind of already don't fuck with him, and then this is more evidence so why they shouldn't fuck with him. And I know a lot of not a lot, but I know a few black men like that, And you know, I'm not challenging their blackness or whatever they feel that way, that's fine.

We kind of talked about this a little bit Saturday, and you know, I still basically feel the same way about it, which is, you know, while I'm not this incensed, like there are people that just kind of already don't fuck with him, and then this is more evidence so why they shouldn't fuck with him. And I know a lot of not a lot, but I know a few black men like that, And you know, I'm not challenging their blackness or whatever they feel that way, that's fine.

I'm not really a feelings guy in that way when it comes to politicians.

I'm not really a feelings guy in that way when it comes to politicians.

So at no point I ever felt disappointed in him, because I've just never I never built that man up to be anything but what he.

So at no point I ever felt disappointed in him, because I've just never I never built that man up to be anything but what he.

Was presenting himself as.

Was presenting himself as.

I never saw him as the pro black activist guy. I'm not saying he's not pro black. I'm not saying he didn't do activism, but I like when they were selling me that as part of like why should vote for him, I was just listening to what came out of his mouth. I can't explain this anymore. I honestly, if you've been listening to the show since two thousand and eight or whatever, when he first came on the scene and when we started our show in like twenty ten or so, so I feel the same way that I felt back then.

I never saw him as the pro black activist guy. I'm not saying he's not pro black. I'm not saying he didn't do activism, but I like when they were selling me that as part of like why should vote for him, I was just listening to what came out of his mouth. I can't explain this anymore. I honestly, if you've been listening to the show since two thousand and eight or whatever, when he first came on the scene and when we started our show in like twenty ten or so, so I feel the same way that I felt back then.

I don't.

I don't.

I know that the business of politics is a very emotional business, and it works on people, and in that way, I recognize the good and the bad of it, and I can watch it the same way that I imagine Tony Romo can watch a quarterback play and be like that was a good play, but not necessarily feel like an emotional attachment of like I hope this play works out, or I hope this play doesn't work, you know, Like it's not I'm not rooting for and against a team necessarily in the way of like being emotionally invested in the people that are politicians as much as I'm rooting for, like their policies, who will be better for the country or for whatever position they occupying. What are the things that I would like to see happening in the country, And is it even possible to accomplish that?

I know that the business of politics is a very emotional business, and it works on people, and in that way, I recognize the good and the bad of it, and I can watch it the same way that I imagine Tony Romo can watch a quarterback play and be like that was a good play, but not necessarily feel like an emotional attachment of like I hope this play works out, or I hope this play doesn't work, you know, Like it's not I'm not rooting for and against a team necessarily in the way of like being emotionally invested in the people that are politicians as much as I'm rooting for, like their policies, who will be better for the country or for whatever position they occupying. What are the things that I would like to see happening in the country, And is it even possible to accomplish that?

What gets us closer to that? What does it?

What gets us closer to that? What does it?

That's the only way I really can view politicians, and I still can enjoy the surface level enjoyment of it. Like I'm not like I love the inauguration with Obama won. I love you know, I love the night he won. You saw Jesse Jackson crying and shit. So it's not like I have no attachment. I think I'm just able to take the good and not the bad. Well, I'm like, yeah, because he's not my friend, he's a he's a fucking he's a guy that's a politician that comes from a side of life that I have not experienced in a bunch of areas right now.

That's the only way I really can view politicians, and I still can enjoy the surface level enjoyment of it. Like I'm not like I love the inauguration with Obama won. I love you know, I love the night he won. You saw Jesse Jackson crying and shit. So it's not like I have no attachment. I think I'm just able to take the good and not the bad. Well, I'm like, yeah, because he's not my friend, he's a he's a fucking he's a guy that's a politician that comes from a side of life that I have not experienced in a bunch of areas right now.

Also, it's one of those things. So I'm like you, I listened to the words that came out of his mouth. A lot of people didn't. They got so mesmerized by hope and change, and particular a lot of white people got so wrapped up in him, quote Unico ending fucking racism, which.

Also, it's one of those things. So I'm like you, I listened to the words that came out of his mouth. A lot of people didn't. They got so mesmerized by hope and change, and particular a lot of white people got so wrapped up in him, quote Unico ending fucking racism, which.

I was like, that's that's some bullshit, you know.

I was like, that's that's some bullshit, you know.

And I also understand that he's the president of this United States of America, you know, like you have to look at the bigger picture, and you know, he's a president, and the president can only do but so much, and they have to sell you these things in order to get the position. That's understandable. He's not special, he's not unique. He's not doing anything that any other president you know, hadn't done before. But for some reason, when it come when it came to him, people they they they believed what they wanted to believe, and they saw what they want to sell, what they want to see, and whatever their feelings were, they pushed these things upon him, like he said he was gonna do these things that he never said he was gonna do in the first place. And then they get sad, mad, disappointed and all this shit. But I'm like, he never promised these things.

And I also understand that he's the president of this United States of America, you know, like you have to look at the bigger picture, and you know, he's a president, and the president can only do but so much, and they have to sell you these things in order to get the position. That's understandable. He's not special, he's not unique. He's not doing anything that any other president you know, hadn't done before. But for some reason, when it come when it came to him, people they they they believed what they wanted to believe, and they saw what they want to sell, what they want to see, and whatever their feelings were, they pushed these things upon him, like he said he was gonna do these things that he never said he was gonna do in the first place. And then they get sad, mad, disappointed and all this shit. But I'm like, he never promised these things.

Yeah, And like I said, I I know politics is a emotional and I think a lot of times I end up a bit detached from what so many people are feeling, you know, Like this is the same reason I was like, I don't know why, Like when I was like, I'm not sure Biden should drop out, because I was like, if if this is a emotional thing, and y'all go, well, it's about my emotions. He dropped out, but they better pick better not be Kamala Harris. That's just an emotional thing. I don't want to get into your emotions. Let's have a plan. If the plan is he drops out of Kamala Harris steps in, she has access to the money, the conference.

Yeah, And like I said, I I know politics is a emotional and I think a lot of times I end up a bit detached from what so many people are feeling, you know, Like this is the same reason I was like, I don't know why, Like when I was like, I'm not sure Biden should drop out, because I was like, if if this is a emotional thing, and y'all go, well, it's about my emotions. He dropped out, but they better pick better not be Kamala Harris. That's just an emotional thing. I don't want to get into your emotions. Let's have a plan. If the plan is he drops out of Kamala Harris steps in, she has access to the money, the conference.

We don't need to have an open convention.

We don't need to have an open convention.

We don't need to do a bunch of last minute debates and town halls and shit. Then I'm with you because that sounds like a plan. I don't need. I don't I don't need y'all feel great about any of this. I just need I need something that can happen that we can win with anyway. So Obama addresses these men in this uh, and it's kind of like off the.

We don't need to do a bunch of last minute debates and town halls and shit. Then I'm with you because that sounds like a plan. I don't need. I don't I don't need y'all feel great about any of this. I just need I need something that can happen that we can win with anyway. So Obama addresses these men in this uh, and it's kind of like off the.

Cuff remarks.

Cuff remarks.

And like they weren't like it wasn't part of his speech. Like I saw his speech. I will listened out forty five minutes of his speech actually.

And like they weren't like it wasn't part of his speech. Like I saw his speech. I will listened out forty five minutes of his speech actually.

But.

But.

There's a there's a few things that are complicated about it. I do want to discuss. One of the things is.

There's a there's a few things that are complicated about it. I do want to discuss. One of the things is.

There's some a lot of grifters jumped on this.

There's some a lot of grifters jumped on this.

I can see that.

I can see that.

And I don't know if people aren't noticing that or just their animosity towards Obama and this whole like anti daddy complex niggas have about him or whatever. I'm not sure do they know that that is happening. At the same time, because while I also bristled at his comments, I I think it plays into the hands And put it this way, the reason I bristled his comments is does it plays into the hands of these grifts and these people who are dissenters and contrarians and driving a wedge in the black community between black men and black women. And that's the reason I bristoled has comments because it's this is a layup that he turned into something more difficult that people have now been arguing about for four or five days online that I don't think deserved even attention.

And I don't know if people aren't noticing that or just their animosity towards Obama and this whole like anti daddy complex niggas have about him or whatever. I'm not sure do they know that that is happening. At the same time, because while I also bristled at his comments, I I think it plays into the hands And put it this way, the reason I bristled his comments is does it plays into the hands of these grifts and these people who are dissenters and contrarians and driving a wedge in the black community between black men and black women. And that's the reason I bristoled has comments because it's this is a layup that he turned into something more difficult that people have now been arguing about for four or five days online that I don't think deserved even attention.

I don't.

I don't.

I don't think these people deserved attention. And some people are going to disagree with that. I hear you, but I then we just have to disagree. I do not the same way that I delete the comments on our YouTube when someone writes some pejorative thing about you know, Kamala Harris or some Republican talking point about the Democratic plantation or whatever. They want our attention. They like that we're like getting upset, they like that we're talking about it. And what I mostly feel is an anger that these these few black men have successfully stolen the attention that should be going to the eighty percent or more of black men who are second to black women only in voting for Democrats.

I don't think these people deserved attention. And some people are going to disagree with that. I hear you, but I then we just have to disagree. I do not the same way that I delete the comments on our YouTube when someone writes some pejorative thing about you know, Kamala Harris or some Republican talking point about the Democratic plantation or whatever. They want our attention. They like that we're like getting upset, they like that we're talking about it. And what I mostly feel is an anger that these these few black men have successfully stolen the attention that should be going to the eighty percent or more of black men who are second to black women only in voting for Democrats.

Right.

Right.

I don't like, and I've been very vocal about the whole time. I don't like this narrative of you know, these black men, these Jamar's are letting us down. That's not fucking true. Yeah, how many exupposed do we need to see? How many like? How like?

I don't like, and I've been very vocal about the whole time. I don't like this narrative of you know, these black men, these Jamar's are letting us down. That's not fucking true. Yeah, how many exupposed do we need to see? How many like? How like?

I know why people want it to be true.

I know why people want it to be true.

It's because some people have been fighting these gender wars for years and they've now determined black men are the fucking worst. And as a reaction to these, to these black men who are anti black women, it's like an equal opposite reaction, like, well, since I've been fighting on the internet, here's a thing where I can make you feel bad. But the internet is like a warped mirror. It's not giving you what is actually real. It's a warped version of reality. The fact is the majority of black men are voting Democrat. That the ones that vote the loud ten percent, eight percent, whatever percentage is that is not do not deserve all his fucking attention. I don't care if they're celebrities, ice Cube, don't represent me, you know, that's that's his rich ass opinion. He'll be okay either way. But for the vast majority of us, we're not on that. We're working class. For most black men, you just can't like. So So anyway, there's a troll element here that is getting to run with this, getting attention, getting retweets, blowing up off of this.

It's because some people have been fighting these gender wars for years and they've now determined black men are the fucking worst. And as a reaction to these, to these black men who are anti black women, it's like an equal opposite reaction, like, well, since I've been fighting on the internet, here's a thing where I can make you feel bad. But the internet is like a warped mirror. It's not giving you what is actually real. It's a warped version of reality. The fact is the majority of black men are voting Democrat. That the ones that vote the loud ten percent, eight percent, whatever percentage is that is not do not deserve all his fucking attention. I don't care if they're celebrities, ice Cube, don't represent me, you know, that's that's his rich ass opinion. He'll be okay either way. But for the vast majority of us, we're not on that. We're working class. For most black men, you just can't like. So So anyway, there's a troll element here that is getting to run with this, getting attention, getting retweets, blowing up off of this.

They're fucking coons, Like I'm not.

They're fucking coons, Like I'm not.

Talking about all these black men, I'm talking about the ones who were coons before you even heard needs this sentence before Obama said anything. They're now using this clip to be like, look what Obama has done to black men. That's why I don't like it's common.

Talking about all these black men, I'm talking about the ones who were coons before you even heard needs this sentence before Obama said anything. They're now using this clip to be like, look what Obama has done to black men. That's why I don't like it's common.

Right, because they're already out there and it's one of those things where not only with Obama's comments, it's the same thing that the news media was running like a while ago, where they kept interviewing like black men for Trump and talking about how black men was the problem.

Right, because they're already out there and it's one of those things where not only with Obama's comments, it's the same thing that the news media was running like a while ago, where they kept interviewing like black men for Trump and talking about how black men was the problem.

I was like, none of this is true at all.

I was like, none of this is true at all.

Where are the articles that, like you say, states that a black one number one, black men number two, y'all like, like, y'all not doing those articles.

Where are the articles that, like you say, states that a black one number one, black men number two, y'all like, like, y'all not doing those articles.

Who does it serve to propagate that huge like this, to over exaggerate the disconnection between black men and women when it comes to voting Democrat.

Who does it serve to propagate that huge like this, to over exaggerate the disconnection between black men and women when it comes to voting Democrat.

Who does that serve?

Who does that serve?

Because I know some black men who are making money off of this, who are making getting clicks off of this. I know the Republicans who are doing it. But there's like a bad faith Like when I say some of the to me, the worst grifting offenders, in my opinion, some of the least scrupulous people. When I see, you know, Nina Turner acting like she gives a fuck about black men now try to like coming out of the woodwork, like after she's tried to burn her own career to the ground, to be like, look what she's doing the black men.

Because I know some black men who are making money off of this, who are making getting clicks off of this. I know the Republicans who are doing it. But there's like a bad faith Like when I say some of the to me, the worst grifting offenders, in my opinion, some of the least scrupulous people. When I see, you know, Nina Turner acting like she gives a fuck about black men now try to like coming out of the woodwork, like after she's tried to burn her own career to the ground, to be like, look what she's doing the black men.

Well, he's doing the black men.

Well, he's doing the black men.

See.

See.

I'm tired of this, and it's like, girl, you didn't give a fuck about us. Now that you can use this moment as a wedge, here you come. I'm sure the Green Party will pop up. I'm sure Cornell West will pop up. It's helping the worst opportunistic, grifting ass motherfuckers divide us. That's the reason I don't like the comments. I like if people are using this the measure Obama's blackness. But to be honest, that's the blackest he ever sounds to me, is when he talks like this. And I don't mean that necessarily as a compliment, just more of a general I know a lot of black people that think like this about other black people in a lot of ways where and I'm not even like I said, it's not even a disk or an admonishment, it's just a fact. There's plenty of churches where you're preaching to the choir or singing to the choir, as Karen.

I'm tired of this, and it's like, girl, you didn't give a fuck about us. Now that you can use this moment as a wedge, here you come. I'm sure the Green Party will pop up. I'm sure Cornell West will pop up. It's helping the worst opportunistic, grifting ass motherfuckers divide us. That's the reason I don't like the comments. I like if people are using this the measure Obama's blackness. But to be honest, that's the blackest he ever sounds to me, is when he talks like this. And I don't mean that necessarily as a compliment, just more of a general I know a lot of black people that think like this about other black people in a lot of ways where and I'm not even like I said, it's not even a disk or an admonishment, it's just a fact. There's plenty of churches where you're preaching to the choir or singing to the choir, as Karen.

Said, the other day.

Said, the other day.

But there's plenty of churches where you are really talking. The pastor is talking to the people in the church about the people not they didn't go to church, right, and they're being like, this is what's wrong with them, niggas, this is why we better than them. That's what Obama was really doing. Now, look them people ain't in church, so they can get mad, they can not get mad whatever.

But there's plenty of churches where you are really talking. The pastor is talking to the people in the church about the people not they didn't go to church, right, and they're being like, this is what's wrong with them, niggas, this is why we better than them. That's what Obama was really doing. Now, look them people ain't in church, so they can get mad, they can not get mad whatever.

If the goal is.

If the goal is.

To get them to come into church, it's probably not gonna happen by admonishing them and calling them out in front of everybody. But it does make the people in the church sometimes feel better about being there, like, at least I'm not like those guys.

To get them to come into church, it's probably not gonna happen by admonishing them and calling them out in front of everybody. But it does make the people in the church sometimes feel better about being there, like, at least I'm not like those guys.

Right.

Right.

The problem is there's no in house in there's no inside conversation in this situation. It's gonna go outside. Everyone's gonna see it. Those people won't be motivated to come be called in. They're just gonna use this moment to try to pull people pull out, right. And that's what I'm seeing happen is people that otherwise were kind of just floating along minding their business, even if they were grudgingly were supporting Kamala Harris, or even if they were supporting her full throated. There's a lot of black men who this is an on goal, meaning they're now offended, and they weren't a week ago. They you know, like the offense a week ago was like maybe they're not hearing our issues as much as they could.

The problem is there's no in house in there's no inside conversation in this situation. It's gonna go outside. Everyone's gonna see it. Those people won't be motivated to come be called in. They're just gonna use this moment to try to pull people pull out, right. And that's what I'm seeing happen is people that otherwise were kind of just floating along minding their business, even if they were grudgingly were supporting Kamala Harris, or even if they were supporting her full throated. There's a lot of black men who this is an on goal, meaning they're now offended, and they weren't a week ago. They you know, like the offense a week ago was like maybe they're not hearing our issues as much as they could.

That was what those guys were, but.

That was what those guys were, but.

They weren't on some like, man, fuck why they talking to us like this. You got a lot of well meaning, good intention black dudes that are now feeling like y'all, like why am I in it that? And I do feel bad for those dudes. I don't, like I said, I don't really feel that way, but but I just don't emotionally get too invested in this shit in that way.

They weren't on some like, man, fuck why they talking to us like this. You got a lot of well meaning, good intention black dudes that are now feeling like y'all, like why am I in it that? And I do feel bad for those dudes. I don't, like I said, I don't really feel that way, but but I just don't emotionally get too invested in this shit in that way.

Yeah, And also I think for me, it's like several things going on. At first, she was like, who do they do this for? They do it for with those people, and also they do it for.

Yeah, And also I think for me, it's like several things going on. At first, she was like, who do they do this for? They do it for with those people, and also they do it for.

A lot of the white Democrats.

A lot of the white Democrats.

And I personally think a lot of this and even I include the media in this, and I say, I'm opening up my third hoyeverg is I feel I think a lot of this is if this goes wrong and if this black woman don't win, because y'all coworkers and friends and family decides they want fucking Trump, don't or don't turn out to vote, we have somebody to blame.

And I personally think a lot of this and even I include the media in this, and I say, I'm opening up my third hoyeverg is I feel I think a lot of this is if this goes wrong and if this black woman don't win, because y'all coworkers and friends and family decides they want fucking Trump, don't or don't turn out to vote, we have somebody to blame.

And I hate when they.

And I hate when they.

Do this because it's always is a quote unquote excuse to take the blame off of the white folks, who is the majority of the population in this country. Like like, white folks are the majority of the population in this country.

Do this because it's always is a quote unquote excuse to take the blame off of the white folks, who is the majority of the population in this country. Like like, white folks are the majority of the population in this country.

So when elections.

So when elections.

Are won, the loss or swung and all that shit, it ain't us.

Are won, the loss or swung and all that shit, it ain't us.

We don't.

We don't.

We yes, we do impact it, but we are also a smaller percentage of the population, and out of our percentage, we vote at a higher clip because the shit impacts us.

We yes, we do impact it, but we are also a smaller percentage of the population, and out of our percentage, we vote at a higher clip because the shit impacts us.

Mod a lot of white people just don't give a fuck, So.

Mod a lot of white people just don't give a fuck, So.

We don't talk like that to anyone.

We don't talk like that to anyone.

Else, right, And I'm sorry if this is disappointed for people to hear, because I know people kind of just want to hear like Rob Rob cheerleader stuff. But I can never I'm never gonna come on here and not at least be honest to try to be real about what's happening, try to be realistic. I haven't seen this approach to anyone else, No, I haven't.

Else, right, And I'm sorry if this is disappointed for people to hear, because I know people kind of just want to hear like Rob Rob cheerleader stuff. But I can never I'm never gonna come on here and not at least be honest to try to be real about what's happening, try to be realistic. I haven't seen this approach to anyone else, No, I haven't.

If y'all. If I'm mistaken, let me know.

If y'all. If I'm mistaken, let me know.

But I don't see this like Latino men do not vote this way, and the numbers that black men vote, White men definitely don't, Asian men don't. I don't see anyone being like, what the fuck is.

But I don't see this like Latino men do not vote this way, and the numbers that black men vote, White men definitely don't, Asian men don't. I don't see anyone being like, what the fuck is.

Wrong with y'all? Get your shit together, right? I don't.

Wrong with y'all? Get your shit together, right? I don't.

I don't understand why you would reserved this message just for black men.

I don't understand why you would reserved this message just for black men.

Wh wasn't it propagated when it propagates.

Wh wasn't it propagated when it propagates.

The myth that black men don't do enough with their vote, that they don't care, that they somehow are anti Democrat, that they're all gonna go over looking. What I think is interesting is that we actually had the exit pos from twenty twenty four that showed or twenty twenty twenty that even when Biden won, every demographic had more people vote for Trump ever like a percentage wise, every demographic that's black women too, Every demographic did, which is a sad thing to say about America, right and everybody voting. But people don't like at least the politicians who are trying to garner votes. They don't admonish those people. I remember Obama stumbled in two thousand and seven with a moment where he said about white people in Middle America basically like they clushed and they clutched the god and their guns.

The myth that black men don't do enough with their vote, that they don't care, that they somehow are anti Democrat, that they're all gonna go over looking. What I think is interesting is that we actually had the exit pos from twenty twenty four that showed or twenty twenty twenty that even when Biden won, every demographic had more people vote for Trump ever like a percentage wise, every demographic that's black women too, Every demographic did, which is a sad thing to say about America, right and everybody voting. But people don't like at least the politicians who are trying to garner votes. They don't admonish those people. I remember Obama stumbled in two thousand and seven with a moment where he said about white people in Middle America basically like they clushed and they clutched the god and their guns.

And he fucking apologized for that shit. He didn't say.

And he fucking apologized for that shit. He didn't say.

Nothing wrong, but he apologized just because of the way it came across.

Nothing wrong, but he apologized just because of the way it came across.

You shake that you have a beer.

You shake that you have a beer.

Summing with a cop who clearly did some racist shit that like, he was wrong for what he did to skip gates, but you have a beer with him because for a good, greater good of the nation or whatever. It's like, it's just fucking squash. This shit is not worth it. Blahlah blah. We the only demographic that is like, man, fuck that it is worth shitting on y'all.

Summing with a cop who clearly did some racist shit that like, he was wrong for what he did to skip gates, but you have a beer with him because for a good, greater good of the nation or whatever. It's like, it's just fucking squash. This shit is not worth it. Blahlah blah. We the only demographic that is like, man, fuck that it is worth shitting on y'all.

I actually don't think it is, because this is the third or fourth time we've.

I actually don't think it is, because this is the third or fourth time we've.

Had one of these distraction moments where people can't see the bigger picture. And I'm a bigger picture guy, meaning there's not anything that he said that offended me. There's nothing he said that made me be like I won't be voting then nothing. I'm not like that, I'm willing. I'm like, Okay, that's just his fucking hang up about it.

Had one of these distraction moments where people can't see the bigger picture. And I'm a bigger picture guy, meaning there's not anything that he said that offended me. There's nothing he said that made me be like I won't be voting then nothing. I'm not like that, I'm willing. I'm like, Okay, that's just his fucking hang up about it.

Okay.

Okay.

So that's that's one thing The other thing is in these myth moments, these mythical moments where people start lying, people say shit like, well, he doesn't help black people. He only talks to black men when it's time to admonish us and when it's time to vote.

So that's that's one thing The other thing is in these myth moments, these mythical moments where people start lying, people say shit like, well, he doesn't help black people. He only talks to black men when it's time to admonish us and when it's time to vote.

That is not true. That is not true.

That is not true. That is not true.

He's had this program first from his beginners, this community organize it too. Now even now he has this program Brother's Keeper, which a lot of people shit it on him at first because they said, it's no, there's not enough black.

He's had this program first from his beginners, this community organize it too. Now even now he has this program Brother's Keeper, which a lot of people shit it on him at first because they said, it's no, there's not enough black.

Girls in the program.

Girls in the program.

People won't remember this because they don't have they have short memory. Yeah, but it's called but yeah, it's fine, there's black girls in the program. By the way, I actually did he did the research. I pulled it up on this show Live on the Era before. But the point being, he's had that program forever and it's a outreach program directly to young black men that he has mentored. Because people will say stuff like, well, he clearly he's not mentioned he only sees black men as this, that, and the other. I'm like, I don't think it's that. If I have to psychoanalyze him, my biggest thing would be I don't think he sees black men necessarily as his peer group. And I don't mean that as he has no black friends, but like, when you're the first fucking black president of America, how there's not a lot of rooms you can walk in and feel a shared experience with any Like there's no other black men that's gone through that in America period. He's the only one. It's a club of one person. Yes, And a lot of the myth making around a politician of his figure has been like, Hey, this is a lesson we can learn from. This is an example we can hold ourselves to. This is what we tell kids to aspire to. Here is proof you can do what people thought was impossible, Barack Obama. And that is true, but it is also kind of a self fulfilling prophecy that he would have to communicate to other black men in many ways as the example, not as Barack Obama bury from Chicago. He's going to always be like, I represent an ideal, and I'm gonna always be pushing that ideal to other black men of like, we gotta get our shit together.

People won't remember this because they don't have they have short memory. Yeah, but it's called but yeah, it's fine, there's black girls in the program. By the way, I actually did he did the research. I pulled it up on this show Live on the Era before. But the point being, he's had that program forever and it's a outreach program directly to young black men that he has mentored. Because people will say stuff like, well, he clearly he's not mentioned he only sees black men as this, that, and the other. I'm like, I don't think it's that. If I have to psychoanalyze him, my biggest thing would be I don't think he sees black men necessarily as his peer group. And I don't mean that as he has no black friends, but like, when you're the first fucking black president of America, how there's not a lot of rooms you can walk in and feel a shared experience with any Like there's no other black men that's gone through that in America period. He's the only one. It's a club of one person. Yes, And a lot of the myth making around a politician of his figure has been like, Hey, this is a lesson we can learn from. This is an example we can hold ourselves to. This is what we tell kids to aspire to. Here is proof you can do what people thought was impossible, Barack Obama. And that is true, but it is also kind of a self fulfilling prophecy that he would have to communicate to other black men in many ways as the example, not as Barack Obama bury from Chicago. He's going to always be like, I represent an ideal, and I'm gonna always be pushing that ideal to other black men of like, we gotta get our shit together.

You can be like me, but you gotta be focused. You gotta do this.

You can be like me, but you gotta be focused. You gotta do this.

That's what he's done for at this point see two thousand and eight, twenty twenty four. So I don't know when my brothers Keeper started, but let's say it was two thousand and eight, twenty twenty four. So you have at least sixteen years of him being like, this is his contribution to helping black people is specifically black men out.

That's what he's done for at this point see two thousand and eight, twenty twenty four. So I don't know when my brothers Keeper started, but let's say it was two thousand and eight, twenty twenty four. So you have at least sixteen years of him being like, this is his contribution to helping black people is specifically black men out.

Don't I don't. I don't.

Don't I don't. I don't.

I think it's just easy to get into these hyperbolic assumptions. I do not assume that he has any animosity towards black men. I don't believe that. I do not assume he just wants black men for the vote. I don't assume that. I don't believe that it either. There are some ways in which, when he was given his comments, I agree with him in some of his comments. Now that is not to say I would I think he should have given those comments at that time. That is to say, if you told me, Rod, how do you feel about that small percentage of black men who refuse to vote for Kamala Harris, some of them even haven't voted for Obama, and in the wake of a Trump second presidency, are like, I don't know about this.

I think it's just easy to get into these hyperbolic assumptions. I do not assume that he has any animosity towards black men. I don't believe that. I do not assume he just wants black men for the vote. I don't assume that. I don't believe that it either. There are some ways in which, when he was given his comments, I agree with him in some of his comments. Now that is not to say I would I think he should have given those comments at that time. That is to say, if you told me, Rod, how do you feel about that small percentage of black men who refuse to vote for Kamala Harris, some of them even haven't voted for Obama, and in the wake of a Trump second presidency, are like, I don't know about this.

How do you feel I feel? How he felt?

How do you feel I feel? How he felt?

What he said is how I feel. I think that is ultimately stupid. I think that is ultimately a failing mentally to support this man. If that is what you have decided to do to sit this out, I also think is a failing If that is what you've decided to do, I don't agree with it. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I'm not gonna try to make you feel better about it. I think you are wasting your time, wasting your vote, and I think you're putting us in peril.

What he said is how I feel. I think that is ultimately stupid. I think that is ultimately a failing mentally to support this man. If that is what you have decided to do to sit this out, I also think is a failing If that is what you've decided to do, I don't agree with it. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I'm not gonna try to make you feel better about it. I think you are wasting your time, wasting your vote, and I think you're putting us in peril.

I think I would think that of any person, honestly.

I think I would think that of any person, honestly.

All the people, and I do think a lot of people, not just black men. The real problem is this is a black woman. They're not gonna come out and say that right Obama can use the stick, he can be the one to say it, because she damn well can't. She can't go anywhere right now and say what the truth is, which is the hand the holdouts that are saying bigoted shit online, the ones that are that are that are just you know, she's a terrible candidate, but not acknowledging that Trump is a much worse candidate. Meaning I'm just gonna pretend this other thing is happening, so I can only be critical of one side.

All the people, and I do think a lot of people, not just black men. The real problem is this is a black woman. They're not gonna come out and say that right Obama can use the stick, he can be the one to say it, because she damn well can't. She can't go anywhere right now and say what the truth is, which is the hand the holdouts that are saying bigoted shit online, the ones that are that are that are just you know, she's a terrible candidate, but not acknowledging that Trump is a much worse candidate. Meaning I'm just gonna pretend this other thing is happening, so I can only be critical of one side.

I'm tired of it.

I'm tired of it.

It's lame, it's corny, it's fucking predictable, it's not it's not well reasoned, it's not very well principled. In my opinion, it's just a waste of fucking time. It's the same as being Barron Donald's. To me, it's a troll situation. I understand some people need to pound their chest and get that out once again.

It's lame, it's corny, it's fucking predictable, it's not it's not well reasoned, it's not very well principled. In my opinion, it's just a waste of fucking time. It's the same as being Barron Donald's. To me, it's a troll situation. I understand some people need to pound their chest and get that out once again.

I ain't.

I ain't.

I'm not really like that, and I don't really have to respect that, and I'm just not gonna engage with that, like whatever you need to do to feel more like a man in this situation and like an individual. I just this isn't one of those times for me. Why why I can respect that. I don't see that you're being an individual. I don't see that you're being more principal. This feels like a everybody knows your cook chicken to one hundred and sixty five degree situation and you like, well, I like my chicken one hundred and thirty and ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do.

I'm not really like that, and I don't really have to respect that, and I'm just not gonna engage with that, like whatever you need to do to feel more like a man in this situation and like an individual. I just this isn't one of those times for me. Why why I can respect that. I don't see that you're being an individual. I don't see that you're being more principal. This feels like a everybody knows your cook chicken to one hundred and sixty five degree situation and you like, well, I like my chicken one hundred and thirty and ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do.

That's how this feels to me.

That's how this feels to me.

Well, I'm like, okay, go die go salmonella get sick. But I'm like, I'm sorry that that the men. You didn't have a bunch of different choices, But if you're gonna get the chicken, you should go ahead and get it at the right temperature. Is not You're really not proven shit by sitting this one out to me. I think that's how bad this situation has gotten in America. If this was even and there, look there's no Republican, I'd vote for it. But like I could understand if we were talking about ah, if Nicki Haley was on the ballot, I might even understand people being like, well, look, man, Kama's not good enough for me, and Nicki Haley got some good ideas, like or something where she's tried to say something, this is not what's happening.

Well, I'm like, okay, go die go salmonella get sick. But I'm like, I'm sorry that that the men. You didn't have a bunch of different choices, But if you're gonna get the chicken, you should go ahead and get it at the right temperature. Is not You're really not proven shit by sitting this one out to me. I think that's how bad this situation has gotten in America. If this was even and there, look there's no Republican, I'd vote for it. But like I could understand if we were talking about ah, if Nicki Haley was on the ballot, I might even understand people being like, well, look, man, Kama's not good enough for me, and Nicki Haley got some good ideas, like or something where she's tried to say something, this is not what's happening.

So I think.

So I think.

The lies about Obama, it's just they don't they don't run with me.

The lies about Obama, it's just they don't they don't run with me.

That's all. Like you can call him Corney say it's not your type of nigga. I see that.

That's all. Like you can call him Corney say it's not your type of nigga. I see that.

I don't think there's a president of America. I don't think anyone can be president of America and be my type of guy. I don't think it's not a my type of guy. Job, you know what. I like, they're not gonna hook any of my homies up with the White House. It's just it's not that's that I understand what that job is, you know, and I'm not looking to hire a friend for that position. It's not you know, it's saying motherfucking McDonald's or whatever. So I think that that myth making that lie, that that persistent, like he ain't for the people or whatever, I don't know whatever.

I don't think there's a president of America. I don't think anyone can be president of America and be my type of guy. I don't think it's not a my type of guy. Job, you know what. I like, they're not gonna hook any of my homies up with the White House. It's just it's not that's that I understand what that job is, you know, and I'm not looking to hire a friend for that position. It's not you know, it's saying motherfucking McDonald's or whatever. So I think that that myth making that lie, that that persistent, like he ain't for the people or whatever, I don't know whatever.

But the the erosion of.

But the the erosion of.

It's deflating. It's the erosion of positive momentum.

It's deflating. It's the erosion of positive momentum.

Yes, I can see that.

Yes, I can see that.

Yeah, I don't see how people because I've seen people fighting and then they're just calling black man like you know, week and bitches and stop catering to these niggas and all this stuff. And they're not making any real delineation or exception. They're not being very specific. It's being very generalized. I don't know why everybody's doing this. You could and maybe it's because the guy who said it didn't set the tone right. But all you gotta do is be like, we just talking about a handful of brothers, and I really think we could nip all this in the bud if you like I really think if he would have sat there and said, I'm not talking about y'all in this room, y'all doing the right thing, y'all where y'all supposed to be, and it killed it. I appreciate y'all service. This is what we need from our community. Y'all are leaders. I want you to go back into your community. And we have some brothers that I hold out we have and he can say everything he said from that point on exactly the same, yes, sir, and I feel like everybody that is in good faith would have said, I see what he means. I see where he's coming from. He's not talking about this is not admonishing black men. This is admonishing those niggas. And for those that don't think he should have to say that, I present to you where we're at right now, with.

Yeah, I don't see how people because I've seen people fighting and then they're just calling black man like you know, week and bitches and stop catering to these niggas and all this stuff. And they're not making any real delineation or exception. They're not being very specific. It's being very generalized. I don't know why everybody's doing this. You could and maybe it's because the guy who said it didn't set the tone right. But all you gotta do is be like, we just talking about a handful of brothers, and I really think we could nip all this in the bud if you like I really think if he would have sat there and said, I'm not talking about y'all in this room, y'all doing the right thing, y'all where y'all supposed to be, and it killed it. I appreciate y'all service. This is what we need from our community. Y'all are leaders. I want you to go back into your community. And we have some brothers that I hold out we have and he can say everything he said from that point on exactly the same, yes, sir, and I feel like everybody that is in good faith would have said, I see what he means. I see where he's coming from. He's not talking about this is not admonishing black men. This is admonishing those niggas. And for those that don't think he should have to say that, I present to you where we're at right now, with.

Y'all fighting on the internet about.

Y'all fighting on the internet about.

It right, clearly he could.

It right, clearly he could.

Have said that and been better.

Have said that and been better.

This is why I said, I hold myself to our standard. Then people hold me too sometimes because I remember when I said that black men are white people of black people thing, and I was like, man, I shouldn't have said it that way because it caused a lot of animals and they're like, but it's true, it's just about privilegion. I said, I know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain that to people. But if the message won't connect, even with the people that in good faith come to the message that's on the messenger, yeah, I can't put the customer isn't wrong in this situation, Like if you're courting a vote, if you're trying to reach somebody and and it doesn't work or people are put off by it, you can't just be like, well, I'll say what I said, that's not how voting works. And we wouldn't let that happen with any other demographic or when it did happen, if you lose, everybody's gonna go back and go, why did you do that?

This is why I said, I hold myself to our standard. Then people hold me too sometimes because I remember when I said that black men are white people of black people thing, and I was like, man, I shouldn't have said it that way because it caused a lot of animals and they're like, but it's true, it's just about privilegion. I said, I know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain that to people. But if the message won't connect, even with the people that in good faith come to the message that's on the messenger, yeah, I can't put the customer isn't wrong in this situation, Like if you're courting a vote, if you're trying to reach somebody and and it doesn't work or people are put off by it, you can't just be like, well, I'll say what I said, that's not how voting works. And we wouldn't let that happen with any other demographic or when it did happen, if you lose, everybody's gonna go back and go, why did you do that?

You lost the election that day.

You lost the election that day.

I just don't see the I don't see the positive aspect of this. So that's how I feel about that shit that being said, Kamala Harris comes with the carrot, right, So Obama was the stick.

I just don't see the I don't see the positive aspect of this. So that's how I feel about that shit that being said, Kamala Harris comes with the carrot, right, So Obama was the stick.

She got the carrot. Now, I feel like that's political strategy. I think that's smart.

She got the carrot. Now, I feel like that's political strategy. I think that's smart.

I agree.

I agree.

So she put out like a plan called I Believe the Opportunity agenda for Black men and it's highlights, Like I saw five major things in it.

So she put out like a plan called I Believe the Opportunity agenda for Black men and it's highlights, Like I saw five major things in it.

Here. The five providing one million loans that are fully forgivable for black entrepreneurs and others to start a business. Uh, that and others is how you get it through. It's how you get it through.

Here. The five providing one million loans that are fully forgivable for black entrepreneurs and others to start a business. Uh, that and others is how you get it through. It's how you get it through.

No, not Congress, it's how you get it through Supreme Court. For those Yeah, yeah, I'm about to go through through why it's written this way.

No, not Congress, it's how you get it through Supreme Court. For those Yeah, yeah, I'm about to go through through why it's written this way.

But also I'm gonna have to go through why. I really don't think it's gonna matter.

But also I'm gonna have to go through why. I really don't think it's gonna matter.

But okay, so a million loans that are fully forgivable for black entrepreneurs and others to start a business. My guess is they just gonna give it to black people and a handful of others, and and they'll just be like, listen, we didn't say only black people. So don't you know the Heritage Foundation, when they do sue us about this, will not be able to win, hopefully, But who knows what this Supreme Court two championing education, training, and mentorship programs to help black men get good paying jobs and how the man industries that lead the communities, including pathways to become teachers.

But okay, so a million loans that are fully forgivable for black entrepreneurs and others to start a business. My guess is they just gonna give it to black people and a handful of others, and and they'll just be like, listen, we didn't say only black people. So don't you know the Heritage Foundation, when they do sue us about this, will not be able to win, hopefully, But who knows what this Supreme Court two championing education, training, and mentorship programs to help black men get good paying jobs and how the man industries that lead the communities, including pathways to become teachers.

You mean, like my brother my brother's keepers.

You mean, like my brother my brother's keepers.

You mean a program we already have that's been there that these motherfuckers just have decided to ignore or be ignorant of, or many many, many other plans that also do this.

You mean a program we already have that's been there that these motherfuckers just have decided to ignore or be ignorant of, or many many, many other plans that also do this.

Like this is like, I'm not upset with the list. I'm upset that.

Like this is like, I'm not upset with the list. I'm upset that.

This is bad faith trolling that has gotten to the fucking White House.

This is bad faith trolling that has gotten to the fucking White House.

Right.

Right.

Three supporting a regulatory framework for crypto currency and other digital assets so black men who invest in and own these assets are protected.

Three supporting a regulatory framework for crypto currency and other digital assets so black men who invest in and own these assets are protected.

This one for me? Is it okay?

This one for me? Is it okay?

So it sounds worse than it is. First of all, crypto being protected is more of a like, how we can keep y'all from getting fucking scammed in the crypto market because the crypto shit is mostly a.

So it sounds worse than it is. First of all, crypto being protected is more of a like, how we can keep y'all from getting fucking scammed in the crypto market because the crypto shit is mostly a.

Scam the wild wild West. Yeah. But three? Uh this number three? Who are these niggas who asked for this?

Scam the wild wild West. Yeah. But three? Uh this number three? Who are these niggas who asked for this?

And I'm not saying that rhetorically. Someone decided this was the plan for black men. And it wasn't Kamala Harris, it wasn't her team, nobody, somebody that has been complaining this whole time, saying.

And I'm not saying that rhetorically. Someone decided this was the plan for black men. And it wasn't Kamala Harris, it wasn't her team, nobody, somebody that has been complaining this whole time, saying.

Y'all not doing enough for black men.

Y'all not doing enough for black men.

Sat they ass in the room with some demands and one of the demands was fucking crypto.

Sat they ass in the room with some demands and one of the demands was fucking crypto.

You'm not trying to find out, not even fuk about crypto.

You'm not trying to find out, not even fuk about crypto.

How is this serious?

How is this serious?

Right?

Right?

This is not serious. This is a waste the fucking time.

This is not serious. This is a waste the fucking time.

It is. And that's something that that is not even specific the black men. Every all these mother a lot of white boy bro dudes.

It is. And that's something that that is not even specific the black men. Every all these mother a lot of white boy bro dudes.

Do to crypto. That's not a black man thing.

Do to crypto. That's not a black man thing.

For watching a national health equity initiative focused on Black men that addresses sickle cell disease, diabetes, mental health, prostate cancer, and other health challenges that dispportunately impact them. Love that that's actual, really cool. Reminds me of the black maternal health thing. That's a great idea. How it's gonna work, I don't know, but that's a great idea. Maybe it's PSAs, Maybe it's changing the age of screening, maybe it's changing recommendations. Something great could happen from that. That is real, That is tangible, and I like that people. I'm sure people are gonna dieplay that five. Legalizing recreational marijuana and creating opportunities for black marriage succeed in this new industry that's already on the agenda right. Legalizing marijuana has been on their agenda for years at this point, for Democrats and for Biden specifically, and now Kamala Harris. What that is a direct result of is the misinformation about her where people are like, you know, she locked up thousands of black men for we and it's not true. That feels like misinformation won. Misinformation made it far enough to the White House that she now has to go. She has to push something out that she already was doing. It be like, but it's gonna help black men? Why is it black men that helps everybody that's been locked up for weed?

For watching a national health equity initiative focused on Black men that addresses sickle cell disease, diabetes, mental health, prostate cancer, and other health challenges that dispportunately impact them. Love that that's actual, really cool. Reminds me of the black maternal health thing. That's a great idea. How it's gonna work, I don't know, but that's a great idea. Maybe it's PSAs, Maybe it's changing the age of screening, maybe it's changing recommendations. Something great could happen from that. That is real, That is tangible, and I like that people. I'm sure people are gonna dieplay that five. Legalizing recreational marijuana and creating opportunities for black marriage succeed in this new industry that's already on the agenda right. Legalizing marijuana has been on their agenda for years at this point, for Democrats and for Biden specifically, and now Kamala Harris. What that is a direct result of is the misinformation about her where people are like, you know, she locked up thousands of black men for we and it's not true. That feels like misinformation won. Misinformation made it far enough to the White House that she now has to go. She has to push something out that she already was doing. It be like, but it's gonna help black men? Why is it black men that helps everybody that's been locked up for weed?

Everybody that smokes.

Everybody that smokes.

Weed, recreational weed is not just a black thing, you know, think that's and it's only five of these, Thank god child support isn't on there. But this is my problem with the black male agenda.

Weed, recreational weed is not just a black thing, you know, think that's and it's only five of these, Thank god child support isn't on there. But this is my problem with the black male agenda.

Shit.

Shit.

It either turns into stuff that they're already doing and y'all just didn't do any fucking research and aren't aware of which is on you, right, because it's not. If I'm aware of it, you could be aware of it. Yes, these are not secret programs. These are just things niggas is mad about and don't fucking look up.

It either turns into stuff that they're already doing and y'all just didn't do any fucking research and aren't aware of which is on you, right, because it's not. If I'm aware of it, you could be aware of it. Yes, these are not secret programs. These are just things niggas is mad about and don't fucking look up.

Right.

Right.

The second part of.

The second part of.

This that bothers me is two or three of these feel like bad faith lies, Like the cryptocurrency.

This that bothers me is two or three of these feel like bad faith lies, Like the cryptocurrency.

Thing, like why is this even on the table?

Thing, like why is this even on the table?

The marijuana thing is not.

The marijuana thing is not.

That's that's it turns into these weird stereotypes. It's like when it's like when there's a contingent of black men out there that are very vocal online and they say they want the and who knows how many these are real people, real accounts. I just know this is what we see. They keep going, we want like child support amnesty or something.

That's that's it turns into these weird stereotypes. It's like when it's like when there's a contingent of black men out there that are very vocal online and they say they want the and who knows how many these are real people, real accounts. I just know this is what we see. They keep going, we want like child support amnesty or something.

Do you hear yourself? That's the black man agenda. The black man agenda.

Do you hear yourself? That's the black man agenda. The black man agenda.

Is you look terrible.

Is you look terrible.

Paying child support is not a thing a black man should have to do for his fucking kid.

Paying child support is not a thing a black man should have to do for his fucking kid.

And black men, out of all the men, they are like number one when it comes to like may within their race. They number one are like being president in their children's lives, you know, like like they actually are number one. So it's the same thing because it's fucking small ass ain't shit, niggas, that's fucking complaining.

And black men, out of all the men, they are like number one when it comes to like may within their race. They number one are like being president in their children's lives, you know, like like they actually are number one. So it's the same thing because it's fucking small ass ain't shit, niggas, that's fucking complaining.

Yeah no, like I said, it's like non paid.

Yeah no, like I said, it's like non paid.

It goes into detail, but these are the five that they've highlighted.

It goes into detail, but these are the five that they've highlighted.

It's on the first page.

It's on the first page.

It really goes into how bad Donald Trump is and whatnot, and it goes into details like it's not just a nebulous you know, providing one million loans that are fully forgiveable up to twenty thousand dollars for black entrepreneurs and others who have historically faced barriers to start a new business or growing in existing business in partnership with trusted organizations like mission driven lenders and banks with the proven commitment to their communities. Like this is something we're a small business, we're a black owned business, or something maybe we got for some reason goo, we need a twenty thousand dollars loan that's fully fucking forgivable, and we can get a studio and a producer and we can fucking get multi camera set up and all this shit, right, I mean, like that could really help a lot of people.

It really goes into how bad Donald Trump is and whatnot, and it goes into details like it's not just a nebulous you know, providing one million loans that are fully forgiveable up to twenty thousand dollars for black entrepreneurs and others who have historically faced barriers to start a new business or growing in existing business in partnership with trusted organizations like mission driven lenders and banks with the proven commitment to their communities. Like this is something we're a small business, we're a black owned business, or something maybe we got for some reason goo, we need a twenty thousand dollars loan that's fully fucking forgivable, and we can get a studio and a producer and we can fucking get multi camera set up and all this shit, right, I mean, like that could really help a lot of people.

That's not necessarily something that is just pie in the sky. But it's the fact that one, some of these programs have existed already. But two, it's not a black male specific thing.

That's not necessarily something that is just pie in the sky. But it's the fact that one, some of these programs have existed already. But two, it's not a black male specific thing.

And so a large part of this has been the denial of black men to accept that what uplifts the black community uplifts us.

And so a large part of this has been the denial of black men to accept that what uplifts the black community uplifts us.

Yes, and that is where we get to seeing ourselves.

Yes, and that is where we get to seeing ourselves.

As a part from the community and not a part of the community. This is the crux of when I was talking about the white men of the community, like seeing ourselves the white people. This is kind of the crux of that entitlement. I'm not saying that it's the same as a white person blah blah blah, but my point being the entitlement of.

As a part from the community and not a part of the community. This is the crux of when I was talking about the white men of the community, like seeing ourselves the white people. This is kind of the crux of that entitlement. I'm not saying that it's the same as a white person blah blah blah, but my point being the entitlement of.

Things that help our community don't help us.

Things that help our community don't help us.

Right, So black maternal health somehow doesn't help black men, but it helps black women.

Right, So black maternal health somehow doesn't help black men, but it helps black women.

That's not true. Who's born from black women, who's married to black women, who's fathering these children with black women? Who wants to see these mothers alive, these sisters alive, these wives, these girlfriends, who wants to see them alive?

That's not true. Who's born from black women, who's married to black women, who's fathering these children with black women? Who wants to see these mothers alive, these sisters alive, these wives, these girlfriends, who wants to see them alive?

For a large part, it's us, yes, sir, so to see something like that and be like, but what about me is kind of weird to me not to There's some dudes that are now more on board a fuck it. I'll just say names, Roland Martin, Bacari, Sellers. I love to see how much they're on board with Kamala Harris, I think I love to see it. But there was a time when they weren't necessarily on board, and I remember, you know, being a bit miffed with their like obsession with like, but what about the black men?

For a large part, it's us, yes, sir, so to see something like that and be like, but what about me is kind of weird to me not to There's some dudes that are now more on board a fuck it. I'll just say names, Roland Martin, Bacari, Sellers. I love to see how much they're on board with Kamala Harris, I think I love to see it. But there was a time when they weren't necessarily on board, and I remember, you know, being a bit miffed with their like obsession with like, but what about the black men?

And I'm like, I'm not sure how to tell.

And I'm like, I'm not sure how to tell.

You this, but when you see, when we saw Barack Obama winning, we weren't spending all this time doing a bunch of like, but what about the black women shit? And honestly, when a black woman brought that shit up, we acted like they were the enemy somehow, like what the fuck are you doing?

You this, but when you see, when we saw Barack Obama winning, we weren't spending all this time doing a bunch of like, but what about the black women shit? And honestly, when a black woman brought that shit up, we acted like they were the enemy somehow, like what the fuck are you doing?

Right?

Right?

And so now the shoes on the other foot, and everyone's kind of acting accordingly the other way, where now it's like, well, what about the black men? And people are like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're the enemy right now. I'm not saying that the enemy. I think that's going too far. But to not be able to see that her policies that benefit black communities will ultimately benefit black men as well feels like almost like a willful misunderstanding.

And so now the shoes on the other foot, and everyone's kind of acting accordingly the other way, where now it's like, well, what about the black men? And people are like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're the enemy right now. I'm not saying that the enemy. I think that's going too far. But to not be able to see that her policies that benefit black communities will ultimately benefit black men as well feels like almost like a willful misunderstanding.

Because I can't understand.

Because I can't understand.

How you could arrive at that, and the fact that they don't misunderstand it anymore. Now that she's given Roland Martin an interview, now that she is the presidential candidate. Now that Bacardie Seller seems to be working with the campaign, I mean, I guess it's more easy for those dudes to come around because they kind of have more access than they had on the outside. Looking in, A lot of this conversation is actually about access, but it's taking the plat it's.

How you could arrive at that, and the fact that they don't misunderstand it anymore. Now that she's given Roland Martin an interview, now that she is the presidential candidate. Now that Bacardie Seller seems to be working with the campaign, I mean, I guess it's more easy for those dudes to come around because they kind of have more access than they had on the outside. Looking in, A lot of this conversation is actually about access, but it's taking the plat it's.