Most American voters are dissatisfied with both President Joe Biden and his predecessor, Donald Trump. Barring any health surprises (Biden is 81 and Trump is 77) or other major twists (Trump is a defendant in four felony prosecutions), one of them is almost certainly going to win when voters go to the polls on Nov. 5, 2024. How are these two, currently unpopular candidates poised to become their parties’ presidential nominees without so much as a serious challenge?

Bloomberg Businessweek national correspondent Joshua Green talks with Nancy Cook about how voters and donors are feeling about another Trump-Biden matchup.

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