This week, following the deadly shooting of Renée Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, the state of Minnesota sued the federal government in a bid to kick out thousands of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

On today’s Big Take podcast, Sarah Holder is joined by Bloomberg immigration reporter Alicia Caldwell and the National Immigration Law Center’s Efrén Olivares to discuss how a rapid evolution under President Trump has reshaped ICE — and how states are responding to unprecedented waves of federal enforcers.

This week, following the deadly shooting of Ren&eacute;e Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, the state of Minnesota sued the federal government in a bid to kick out thousands of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.
On today&rsquo;s Big Take podcast, Sarah Holder is joined by Bloomberg immigration reporter Alicia Caldwell and the National Immigration Law Center&rsquo;s Efr&eacute;n Olivares to discuss how a rapid evolution under President Trump has reshaped ICE &mdash; and how states are responding to unprecedented waves of federal enforcers.

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Minnesota v. ICE

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The mayor of an affluent suburb of Los Angeles pleaded guilty to acting as an agent of the Chinese government last month. And while cable networks across the US had a field day with the story, Bloomberg’s Drake Bennett and Jordan Robertson have been reporting on cases like this one for years. The two co-hosted the podcast series, The Sixth Bureau, which detailed the inner workings of one of the most powerful and mysterious spy agencies in the world, China’s Ministry of State Security.

On today’s Big Take podcast, Drake and Jordan walk host David Gura through what we know about Wang’s case and what it tells us about the extent of Chinese propaganda and espionage in the United States amid ongoing tensions between the world’s two superpowers.

Further listening: http://swap.fm/l/9guIFZxhu17KqTWLxBFh 

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/the-sixth-bureau/

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Hosted by David Gura; Produced by Julia Press and Victor Yvellez; Reported by Drake Bennett and Jordan Robertson; Edited by Nicole Beemsterboer

Fact-checking by Laura Newcombe; Engineering by Alex Sugiura.

Senior Producer: Naomi Shavin; Deputy Executive Producer: Julia Weaver. Executive Producer: Nicole Beemsterboer.

The mayor of an affluent suburb of Los Angeles pleaded guilty to acting as an agent of the Chinese government last month. And while cable networks across the US had a field day with the story, Bloomberg&rsquo;s Drake Bennett and Jordan Robertson have been reporting on cases like this one for years. The two co-hosted the podcast series, The Sixth Bureau, which detailed the inner workings of one of the most powerful and mysterious spy agencies in the world, China&rsquo;s Ministry of State Security. On today&rsquo;s Big Take podcast, Drake and Jordan walk host David Gura through what we know about Wang&rsquo;s case and what it tells us about the extent of Chinese propaganda and espionage in the United States amid ongoing tensions between the world&rsquo;s two superpowers.
Further listening:&nbsp;<a href="http://swap.fm/l/9guIFZxhu17KqTWLxBFh">http://swap.fm/l/9guIFZxhu17KqTWLxBFh</a>&nbsp;
Read more:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/features/the-sixth-bureau/">https://www.bloomberg.com/features/the-sixth-bureau/</a>
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Hosted by David Gura; Produced by Julia Press and Victor Yvellez; Reported by Drake Bennett and Jordan Robertson; Edited by Nicole Beemsterboer
Fact-checking by Laura Newcombe; Engineering by Alex Sugiura.
Senior Producer: Naomi Shavin; Deputy Executive Producer: Julia Weaver. Executive Producer: Nicole Beemsterboer.

China Is Recruiting US Citizens to Work for Its Government

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Free speech lawyers are watching in real time as the US government escalates efforts to unmask anonymous critics of ICE.

On today’s Big Take podcast, Justice Department reporter Jimmy Jenkins and legal reporter Zoe Tillman join host David Gura to break down their exclusive reporting on how the DOJ is deploying an old legal tool in a novel way.

We’ll hear from an attorney defending one of the users and explore what the new strategy means for social media platforms, online anonymity and First Amendment freedoms. 

Read more: The DOJ Wants to Know Who on Reddit and X Is Criticizing ICE's Tactics

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Hosted by David Gura; Produced by Julia Press; Reported by Jimmy Jenkins and Zoe Tillman; Edited by Jeffrey Grocott

Fact-checking by Rachael Lewis-Krisky and Laura Newcombe; Engineering by Alex Sugiura.

Senior Producer: Naomi Shavin; Deputy Executive Producer: Julia Weaver. Executive Producer: Nicole Beemsterboer.

Free speech lawyers are watching in real time as the US government escalates efforts to unmask anonymous critics of ICE.
On today&rsquo;s Big Take podcast, Justice Department reporter Jimmy Jenkins and legal reporter Zoe Tillman join host David Gura to break down their exclusive reporting on how the DOJ is deploying an old legal tool in a novel way.
We&rsquo;ll hear from an attorney defending one of the users and explore what the new strategy means for social media platforms, online anonymity and First Amendment freedoms.&nbsp;
Read more:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-28/trump-s-doj-ramps-up-probes-of-anonymous-ice-critics-with-x-reddit-subpoenas">The DOJ Wants to Know Who on Reddit and X Is Criticizing ICE's Tactics</a>
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Hosted by David Gura; Produced by Julia Press; Reported by Jimmy Jenkins and Zoe Tillman; Edited by Jeffrey Grocott
Fact-checking by Rachael Lewis-Krisky and Laura Newcombe; Engineering by Alex Sugiura.
Senior Producer: Naomi Shavin; Deputy Executive Producer: Julia Weaver. Executive Producer: Nicole Beemsterboer.

The DOJ's Campaign to Track Down Anonymous ICE Critics

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The US Justice Department has announced it would establish a $1.776 billion legal fund to compensate people who claim they’ve been targeted unfairly by the federal government. The plan has been met with swift bipartisan backlash, with some lawmakers calling it a “slush fund” that could line the pockets of Trump loyalists and Jan. 6 rioters with taxpayer dollars.

On today’s Big Take podcast, host Sarah Holder joins Bloomberg reporters Chris Strohm and Erik Wasson to break down the mechanics of the fund, the Trump administration’s rationale for using it and the mounting questions around its oversight and legal grounds.

Read more: Jan. 6 Rioters Who Beat Police May Get Payouts, Blanche Says

Trump’s $1.8 Billion Settlement Fund Hits Senate GOP Backlash

Why Critics Call Trump’s $1.8B Anti-Weaponization Fund an Abuse of Power

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Hosted by Sarah Holder; Produced by David Fox; Reported by Chris Strohm, Erik Wasson; Edited by Aaron Edwards.

Fact-checking by Laura Newcombe, Rachael Lewis-Krisky; Engineering by Emma Munger.

Senior Producer: Naomi Shavin; Deputy Executive Producer: Julia Weaver. Executive Producer: Nicole Beemsterboer.

The US Justice Department has announced it would establish a $1.776 billion legal fund to compensate people who claim they&rsquo;ve been targeted unfairly by the federal government. The plan has been met with swift bipartisan backlash, with some lawmakers calling it a &ldquo;slush fund&rdquo; that could line the pockets of Trump loyalists and Jan. 6 rioters with taxpayer dollars.
On today&rsquo;s Big Take podcast, host Sarah Holder joins Bloomberg reporters Chris Strohm and Erik Wasson to break down the mechanics of the fund, the Trump administration&rsquo;s rationale for using it and the mounting questions around its oversight and legal grounds.
Read more: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-19/jan-6-rioters-who-fought-police-could-get-payouts-blanche-says">Jan. 6 Rioters Who Beat Police May Get Payouts, Blanche Says</a>
<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-21/gop-stalemates-on-trump-ballroom-funding-weaponization-fund">Trump&rsquo;s $1.8 Billion Settlement Fund Hits Senate GOP Backlash</a>
<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-21/trump-s-1-8b-anti-weaponization-fund-fuels-corruption-claims">Why Critics Call Trump&rsquo;s $1.8B Anti-Weaponization Fund an Abuse of Power</a>
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Hosted by Sarah Holder; Produced by David Fox; Reported by Chris Strohm, Erik Wasson; Edited by Aaron Edwards.
Fact-checking by Laura Newcombe, Rachael Lewis-Krisky; Engineering by Emma Munger.
Senior Producer: Naomi Shavin; Deputy Executive Producer: Julia Weaver. Executive Producer: Nicole Beemsterboer.

Unpacking Trump’s $1.8 Billion Anti-Weaponization Fund

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