People who fabricate artificial stone are getting sick with a deadly chronic illness—on that, there’s no debate. But whether it’s the individual shops or the material’s manufacturers who should be held responsible is the subject of a highly political dispute playing out across the US.

On today’s Big Take podcast, Bloomberg labor reporter Josh Eidelson breaks down the consequences of this dispute for the industry and the people who work in it.

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Host: Sarah Holder; Guest: Josh Eidelson; Produced by Julia Press; Edited by Naomi Shavin; Engineering by Alex Sugiura.