George Noory and science consultant Richard Hoagland discuss the latest in space propulsion technology.
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George Noriy along with Richard C. Hoagland. Richards podcast is called the Other Side of Midnight, which you can get to well with his website, The Other Side of Midnight dot Com. Richie, I'll let you wrap up about this HD Space drive. Then I got to ask you about this NASA moon rock in the Oval office.
Okay, let's move everybody over to the page where Lex has gracefully put links and images. Can you tell everybody how to get there? Yep.
We go to Coast tocoastam dot com in the carousel, the revolving highlight reel. Click the first button and then Richard's graphics will pop up. There's also a PDF file there that you can click. It's there that as well.
Go ahead, rich Yeah.
The PDP is really high resolution. Okay, So everybody's on that page at the top, Lex with the you know, comparison micrograb. Item number one right end of the photo is the link to the Forbes magazine article. And you don't get into Forbes, George, unless you're real and a hard nose three D money magazine newspaper whatever. So they've done a very broad view of this whole amazing thing. What they don't get into is the is the philosophy that if this thing works, then everything we think we know is wrong. There are more than three dimensions. That's why I call it a hyperdimensional because even though certain scientists like McCulloch and even the professional Pentagon Research Agency called DARPA, the Advanced Research Projects Agency which the head of this company IVO led him to develop the space drive and put it aboard another company's space craft, which then must launched into orbit on November eleventh, all that notwithstanding, if this thing works, none of their three D theories does. It's all arm waving because in our philosophy and in logic, how can you put something in the middle of nowhere space, have no engines, no fuel, flip a switch and have it does somewhere and it works exactly? If it works, it means everything founded on the idea that we're limited to three dimensions through your space one of time is wrong, and that opens up such a can of worms. George, you and I are going to have to do twenty more years of shows.
That's hope we can. I intend to that would put you at about what one hundred and three.
Well, remember, with this breakthrough comes every breakthrough you can imagine, including biology external, you know, extended aging, not getting old, not getting infirm, you know, living as long as you want, not trivial stuff.
How long has it been around?
They put it up on November eleventh. They're taking two months of what we call baseline data, meaning you want everybody in the world who can track it to really nail down the orbit because orbits in lower orbit tend to shift a bit because of atmospheric drag, solar wind, activity of players on the Sun. So you want to get all that jiggle in an orbit where there's no engine in this thing. None zero, and then you get like two months they said, sixty days. We're coming up like just before Christmas. Wouldn't it be amazing if they just because they got so much good data, they flip the switch before Christmas or between Christmas and New Year's Can you think George of the bigger more astonishingly positive?
So I'm dropping the ball in times square?
Yes more. Then, Now let me tell you one very practical application. It's not gonna happen tomorrow. It's not gonna happen next year, but it could happen in five years. If this technology works, they're calling it a quantum drive, a quantum inertial drive because according to one of the scientist's calculations, a guy named Mullick, what they're gonna do with the electric field manipulation is basically change the inertia of the spacecraft, and that's assumed under Einstein and Newton to be inviolable. Not explained really by either guy, but inviolable. My acutron measurements have said for decades that inertia can be changed, and the background changes of the physics are changing it all the time, and nobody's noticing because they're not looking close enough. It doesn't affec everyday life. But if this thing works, George, let me tell you why. In five years, it could put an end to all war on Earth. Let me say that again. If this thing works, it could put an end to all war on Earth. Sit down carefully. War depends on inertia, or the flip side called momentum. When you drop a bomb or you you know, you know, bomb a car as a terrorist, or or you shoot somebody, the way of death is through the transfer of momentum through inertia and momentum of the shrapnel of the explosion or the bullet of the weapon, the how it's as shell, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, if you can change inertia in a bubble or round a projector a technological device which hooks into the hyper dimensional torsion field, you might be able to create a gadget device to protect every city, every hamlet, every country from bombardment by anybody, and within the country to protect individuals with something you might wear as a harness that literally would absorb the energy of bullets and other projectiles by making inertia obsolete.
That's amazing.
Yes, we live at an amazing time, and they're gonna test the damn thing sometime in the next month, maybe sooner overhead even as we're talking tonight. Now, do you see why I think this might be one of our most important shows?
A yes, so far, so good. And why are you so excited about a moon rock in the old velossit?
Yeah, Well, let me start at the beginning. Several months ago I did a show with you where we talked about major enterprise mission discoveries, the Lunar Stonehenge, which we've got more data on, and I'll come back and do all show on that. We're gonna do a whole show on this artifact in Biden's Oval office on the thirtieth, the night of Saturday the thirtieth, the night before New Year's Eve. We're gonna do a whole three hours with all the data. So you'll leave with absolutely no doubt that Biden is sitting on an et artifact.
You will on the other side of midnight.
You mean, yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Anyway, so if you look back at Lex's page at the very top, there is a two panel image left and right. Those are what are called thin sections of moon rocks that were brought back from the Moon by all the Apollo missions. These images happen to be from Apollo sixteen. Now, the rocks on the Moon are not exactly like rocks on Earth. They are a mixture of rocks on Earth, you know, from water processes. They're called sedimentary. And then there's uh, you know, the the volcanic kind of rocks that form when you have volcanoes and lava and all that.
I like the case that the rock is in.
Say again, I like the case.
That the rock is.
I mean you mean the presidence. Yeah, well we're gonna get to that. Okay. Look at the image that the les has at the top of my image page. You see that.
One, which one I've seen I'm working on the top of the page that has all the stuff scattered around.
Exactly, Yeah, separate panels. These are small thin sections of two Apollo sixteen moon rocks. Because most moon rocks are smashed together from other rocks through impact that causes craters by meteors, so you get what are called brescias. You know, most of the rocks of the Moon are Brescia's, smashed together rocks made of heat and pressure from impacts. When you take these rocks and slice them apart in a decent lab and look at the thin sections under a microscope, you see little tiny machinery, geometric machinery, things, gadgets, technology, and of course didn't see anything like that. And doctor Brandenburg, you know, of course John Brandenburg, right, George, Oh yeah, well, he's looked at these things and he has come to the same inclusion. I have NASA brought back from the Moon eight hundred and forty two pounds of rocks, most of them brushes, though most of those rocks have not been looked at. They've been put away and saved for future generations when science will get better and better and better.
Did the astronauts know what they were picking up?
I have no idea. They just scooped up stuff, because this stuff is all hidden behind crusts and blast damage and micro meteorite pits. And you know, they just looked like knobbly rocks.
Now, how did you come up with these conclusions?
Well? I was asked by Morning Star many many.
Months ago Friday Night.
But I understand you've got some good stuff. I was asked by him why the cover of the Apollo sixteen Preliminary Science Report on the Apollo sixty mission had a black and white photograph that looked like geometry, And I didn't want to give them a glib answer, so I went and looked, and I suddenly had this incredible insight. Oh my god, we're looking at tiny machines trapped in the breshias, which when they're sawed into thin sections and looked at, they reveal the machinery and circuits and all screws and nuts and bolts and every imaginable you know, a part to our technology on a big an. It's tiny scale. Some of these little machines look at the right panel, are incredibly tiny. That's about ten millimeters in width of the sample.
Looks like a mechanic's bucket that was just dumped on George.
That's impossible. That is not possible by everything we think we know from NASA about the Moon. Well, NASA has been lying because you can't tell me that, you know, petrologists that's the technical name for the scientists that look at rocks that thin section and the look at them in thin slices with polarized light and lasers and ion beam microprobes and all kinds of good stuff like that. You can't tell me they haven't figured this out, and they've sat on it until we come along and we say, okay, it's there, doctor Abby Lobe, mister exo archaeologists at Harvard. We challenge you to ask NASA to give you some of these samples, look at them totally independently, but in public, transparently, and publish results that proved us wrong. Science, as Isaac Asimov once said, is all about proving the other guy wrong, and when you can't, then he's got to be right.
This picture The picture we're looking at was taken on the moon.
Two two pictures, two pictures. I put them together. The side by side, yeah, side by side, two separate rocks for Paul sixteen.
The other one looks like some kind of spaceship blew up, wasn't it? Pieces are scattered rot.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
No, it's not. It's real. You're looking at it. The only unbelievable part is the political non reaction of NASA, the White House, the US government, the political establishment, the academic establishment. Because this stuff's been sitting in our archives under human possession for fifty years.
And you brought us a sample of a Smithsonian rock. What's that all?
Okay? In the interim between Apollo, which was fifty years ago, the only new sample as acquired of extraterrestra materials was an unmanned robotic mission called Osiris REX. That name is not accidental, by the way, that went to an asteroid called the New took a seven year journey to get there, to sample the asteroid, to package up in a vacuum proof container. The sample almost a pound of material from this asteroid, you know, millions of miles away, scoop it up and take off, and then they brought it back to Earth and it re entered the atmosphere of the Earth on September twenty fourth of this year. Amazing technology, amazing and it's been sitting in Houston in a special laboratory designed to protect it until they with the right tools and a biological clean room with ultra you know, precautions for sterilization and you know, contamination and all that, they open this thing up, take out the samples and start sending them around to laboratories all over the world. In this pristine condition, they're not going to use FedEx, and they will then be analyzed by different countries, different scientists, different institutions, different you know, universities, and there will be big meetings about the first analysis of an asteroid sampled by current state of the art technology here on Earth. That's the idea, right, you would think, Okay, go to my item number four. Lex didn't quite put one in sequence. Go to number four. You see it?
What am I looking at? Which one number.
Four on an image page? To scroll down?
My numbers are cut off, My number sides are cut off.
Maybe your screen is too big.
But are you looking at these two rocks? Side by side.
No, no, no, no, that's the it's the link below that. Okay, it's not a picture, it's a link to a news story.
Or the news story. Okay, number four Yeah, okay. It says I was looking for a picture. I was looking for a picture.
Well, you're going to go back up and look at the picture. Neck. So it's been two months. The headline says, why can't NASA open the damn astronauts sample container? I added the.
Damn why can't they?
Their excuse is they can't find the right screwdriver.
What.
Yes, it's a dumb, stupid cover story. And the reason I know is because when when Benu was sampled by Osiris Rex, the sample arm collected so much material it was spilling in zero gravity out into space, and they quickly slammed the lid and they trapped some material inside the cover, but not inside the sample container, which are two separate compartments in the in the Osiris REX spacecraft. So we were able to open the outside container but not the inside sample container.
And whatever the sample is.
Wantch of stuff outside?
This sample doesn't look like something natural, that's for sure.
No, it's not.
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