Subscribe directly to the Fifth Hour podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fifth-hour-with-ben-maller/id1478163837. The backtracking, countless apologies, and a few polarizing topics...2020 is shaping up to be one helluva year. Ben and his troublesome wingman are back in the saddle to aggressively look at everything that is hitting the good ole USA. A lengthy and serious chat gives way to some figures that are forming a new norm this turbulent year for all.

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