We're talking to Joey and Kelsey mere HOURS after the shocking Bachelor finale and she’s asking the questions you won’t hear anywhere else!
Find out why Joey felt like “not the best actor” when he was around Daisy, and Joey reveals the song that producers would play for him when he was missing Kelsey.
Plus… we hear how they made it look like Joey went home alone until the final moment!
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Well, guys, congratulations and thank you so much for being here. I'm going to start out by talking I just I really want to start out by asking you guys about the finale episode. So, Joey, when did you know that Kelsey was the one? Because we have to say that you weren't the best actor with Daisy in the finale, which is totally fine. I love transparency. But we heard on the Chicks in the Office podcast that Daisy walked into the room, your room and you quickly had to hide a letter that you wrote to Kelsey that said I see you as my wife. So you had to have known before that finale week.
Yeah, that I can give as much context as poss up on that. So we always said there was a lot of breadcrumbser about the whole thing that led to that final moment. It really did start all the way back and Ron after the first one on one and that Malta day that to give context in the note, she wrote me a really sweet letter on like a postcard, and I was like thinking about her so much.
I was like, you know what, let me just get my thoughts.
Out, I wanted to journal it and I dated it and it was all the way back in Malta. But yeah, that was at the moment where things were starting with us and I did say like I could see you as a future wife, So I wanted to read it to her on the final date so that she knew this has been going for a while. But I in my position, as everyone knows, have to stay open, have to go through the whole process to make sure that I give her the full confirmation that she deserves. And we both agreed, like the final moment which America sold two was after she met my family. Like after we got through her meeting my family, I knew she was ready and where she was at. That was when I think I started acting a little bit differently and not giving Daisy what she needed and was very aware of my words, and I can say I regretted all of that, but I know I did.
It the best that I could.
And I think what's most important now is she knows how much my love was always there for her, and yeah, we both would day obviously nothing but the best.
Well, you just handled everything this season so perfectly. Greatest Bachelor in a very long time, We're just so grateful for you because you really really like rejuvenized the franchise and you were you were excellent and you couldn't have picked a more wonderful woman. I Y, when Daisy came to your room and started asking you about how you felt your week went, when, what did you think? Where did you think the conversation was leading?
I had no idea, And through the whole process, I never really talked a whole lot about Joey and I's relationship to other women.
I didn't think it was necessary. I just kind of held it to myself.
So whenever she was asking me those questions, I was just like trying to be vague.
I was like, yeah, it was good, it was good.
And then she like had asked me a couple of times, and finally I was like, she's like asking me like did you get validation? You're like, what, Like, can you tell me? I just She's like, if you're comfortable with it. Finally I was like, yeah, you know, I got a lot of.
Validation and reassurance.
And then I think that she was like thankful for that because she knew that how she felt and she just wanted me and Joey to be happy, but it was a special moment.
Yeah.
So then you guys you said on another podcast, because I don't want to repeat questions with you guys, but you said on another podcast that you don't remember who came up with the actual idea of getting in the car together. But once that was decided, did you know that Daisy was going to tell Joey? I know it's not me, Like, did you know what was about to happen as the car stopped?
I mean, I wasn't positive what she was going to do.
I knew that she wanted to go and do it in her own way, and I was just supportive in whatever she wanted to do, and like, if she felt comfortable ending it, then to do so.
But I was really happy with her and proud of her.
Yeah, so, so how did it go? Like did the producer say, all right, well, Daisy's gonna get out of the car first, and she's gonna walk down the aisle and then Kelsey, you're gonna be second. Because to all of us us that's the dead giveaway that you're about you're about to be proposed to.
I think that at that point everybody just kind of knew, like okay, like Joey was gonna propose to me. I was still a little like, you never know. I was like, I don't know until he's down on one knee, but I hope so, And some of my producers were like, are you crazy right now?
Okay was first because I was expecting to end it with her in that moment, So that was all planned before.
I didn't know until after the fact that they that.
We went together, that we had a conversation before. He didn't know any of that, yeh.
But but yeah, No, she got out the car first and then we had a hug, and then she immediately just walked down to Joey and then I fixed my hair.
So you guys were actually interacting right before going down the aisle.
Yes.
Wow.
Ben was certain that you guys it looked like you were in the car together, which of course you were in the car together, but that you got separated and then they sent one of you down so that you wouldn't know who actually was going first.
No, she immediately walked down. Yeah, we gave like the and I was like, I was good luck.
Wow, that truly is unprecedented. But Joey, you we saw you teased all summer long. Well you didn't tease, but like, you know, the scenes for the next episode or the scenes from the finale teased all season long that you like break it down at the altar and that you're You're like, there's no way that's ever happened before, and you were just just so wrecked. What was that about it?
Yeah, I mean, it's it was.
They did a really good job of making it seem like I was alone and that I ended up with no one because of how they like put different scenes together, and I kind of had a figuring that they would do that. But for me, I've expressed the emotions were that I didn't want to put Daisy through that, Like I felt horrible, and I think everyone saw that and that emotion when she walked away, I'm glad, and she said, I'm glad she got to do it on her own, but for her to then walk away, I need to be standing there, Like the emotions hit and I felt terrible that I did that to someone. So it also looked like I got dumped, so that that's the whole thing too.
Were you afraid that they could have edited to make it look alike you were dumped in the end, and that, like Kelsey was default girl.
Yeah, I think that anyone can be afraid of how everything's gonna look. But we knew that at the end of the day, we can always control our story. We've talked about that a ton is like we will try our best to explain if something seems to be like misinterpreted or anything like that.
But we knew how strong.
Our love was and how much we were so excited to see our moment and our engagement. But we knew because of the ending, it was going to be a whole different experience for everyone that was a part of it.
Yeah, because Daisy was so certain it wasn't her like she felt that in her bones. It meant that you sort of treated her like that. Doesn't that make you, Kelsey feel even more confident in what you have that you never have to look back on the season and be like, man, he was really torn between the two of us.
Yeah, I think that that was my biggest fear, and I talked to him about that a lot, you know, of like I don't want you to be confused at the end of who it's gonna be, and like if you get down on one knee for me, like it needs to be one hundred and ten percent me because I think that that's what I deserve.
I also think that's what he deserves.
You know. It's a love that he's so certain about and that I'm so certain about. So yeah, I think that that's how I knew for sure that you know, if you got down one knee from me, it was it was me.
For sure, Kelsey. You didn't give a speech. From what we saw at the altar, every girl has to kind of give her recipient, you know, she has to do her own little thing before getting proposed to. You on the Bachelor, from what we saw, just got to kind of enjoy being proposed to. But how did it actually go down?
So I actually said my speech first, and I'm not sure why I was cut out, maybe to look like I might say no, maybe to maybe to look like, you know, just that he got down on one knee, or maybe I was stuttering a lot.
I don't know.
The whole moment was black out for me. I was just like, please proposed to me. But she said a lot of really sweet things she said. Even after she was like, man, I think I messed my speech up. I had a whole other section that I forgot about. Yeah, I'm sure that moment was a.
Little bit jumbled, but she said beautiful things and it's for us.
I remember it the fact that I always get stressed out that the you know that the person standing up there has to give a speech, So I feel you if you jumbled it. I'm always impressed by how articulate everybody is, even without notes.
Yeah, I was rehearsing it multiple times. I was like, can I bring these please?
That's right, just like a couple of little bullet points, like because I was thinking about like at my wedding, like you know, I had to read it. I'm a great writer, but I can't exactly like just memorize lines then deliver them in front of an audience. So bravo for whatever whatever you did, because I'm sure it was amazing. Was there a moment throughout the entire season that you guys shared that didn't get aired that when the episode ended up airing, you're like, oh, bomber, that didn't make the cut.
I'll speak on one because I think that one of the bigger ones was a moment we had where she got the group date rose after the missus right, she said something during the Missus Right competition about like I want to create new memories. So I came up with the idea of I wanted to get a polaroid camera and we took two selfies, so we had two different pictures. She got the hold onto one, I got the hold onto one, And that was like the big part of our comma we had that night that this is now a new memory that we can hold onto and like share new experiences. So that was kind of a moment that I wish we could have saw.
That's probably one of the moments that were like, well, we can't make it too obvious that Kelsey's the winner.
Yeah, where was our whole conversation the polaroids for us?
And we still got the polaroids.
Yeah, we do as somebody else who's like in a bachelor relationship, but we I always find it to be almost frustrating that we have like so much footage from the beginning of our relationship that we'll never be able to see.
Yeah, yeah, it's part of it.
We'd love to have a full tape of every single moment. That'd be a good gift. O.
No, come on, guys, just give us like a little secret highlight reel. All right, So yesterday we were talking to Rachel Rekia and Susie Evans and they told us that they felt that soon after the finale was filmed that they realized they didn't really know their new significant other. Did you guys have any of those feelings during the Happy couple of retreats?
I think I got stressed on like the initial like right after we got proposed, but then like Joey calmed me down and we're just gonna take this one step at a time pretty much.
And I think we pretty much did dating and reverse.
You know.
Yeah, we did the hard the hard hitters at the beginning, and then we got into the easier stuff, like you know, the fact that he's really into sports, and then we love watching well, we want to watch live sports together because I love going to live sporting events and things like that. I think that, you know, it was fun to learn about the little things throughout all of this little.
Little thing is a huge thing for her and it's like totally ununderstandable and what she's really good at that's been so fun is and I realized I need to work on it. She has like roll of deeckx of questions always, and she did so good at that in the beginning, like, no, I want to know all these little things about you and I want you to me And she did that, and like that has made a huge difference because I don't know if she didn't do that, I don't know if we.
Know as much about each other that we actually do. And we're still learning.
We know that there's a lot to learn, but we have that foundation, which is what's most important.
No, I love that. I remember being on The Bachelor and I wanted to ask random questions like that. But it's also like, do you just just randomly in the middle of the fifteen minutes that you have together during group date? Just like, so, what's your favorite movie? Just like do you randomly blurt that out?
Did you do that?
Yeah? We did.
We had little stuff like that, and like you said, the perfect time always is those like group date moments because you only get a certain amount of time. But then we also she wanted to make sure she said a lot more about her family, important things about each other. But yeah, yeah, the little moments, and we did that on overnights too. We did a lot of small stuff.
Yeah, we did. It was fun. I actually had a wait.
I actually journaled like a bunch of questions that I wanted to ask him, and during fantasy suites, I was like, Okay, I had to ask you this, and I want to ask you this.
Like thought about this run out the journal.
Yeah, that is so cute.
That's the perfect time to bring out the journal.
Yeah.
Well, speaking of fantasy suitets. Okay, So you guys are revealed on the Chicks in the Office podcast that the Taylor Swift song dress is like your song and Joe you said that you would have the producers put it on when you're missing Kelsey in the mid to filming. You did not mention, though, that it's a very sexy song about anticipation. Like, let's let lyric quote here, only bought this dress so you can take it off call name into my bedpost.
Did you have some day.
Dreams on airplanes and stuff, just fantasizing about the fantasy suite to come?
I can say that, she said, like she explained the song obviously talked about the crowded room lyric and everything. It's like, it's a beautiful song and the chorus hit. When I was listening to the first time, I was like, damn, Kelsey, okay, like I'm gonna hold this one in the back of my head. Like, I was like, this is a little provocative of a song here. So we laughed about that a ton, and then when I got to see her the next time I talked about it, I did say that.
I was like, you know, dress is a very like, very aggressive song.
It was hilarious. Whenever he saw me next, he was like, oh, listen to that song. He's like kind of provocative.
I don't know what. That was one of my favorite moments of us together. The way he said like provocative.
I was like, okay, yeah, she got me blushed on.
And then I started blushing whenever you said that, Kelsey, everybody loves your dad, big fan favorite. I think he seems like perfect inside and out, And it looked like he was a little bit smiley and your brother nudged him when Jesse said, maybe we'll be seeing more of you in the future. Does that mean that he's going to be on the next season of The Golden Bachelorette.
I'm not sure, but I think that that sounds so exciting for him.
You think that that sounds exciting for him, So you guys would be open you as a family, and your dad open to finding love again.
I think that it would be a good push for him.
Yeah, okay, okay, all right, well, guys, thank you so much for joining us. I have this quick shout out that I have to do for our producer Amy, She and us on the Almost In this podcast, we want to give a shout out to Taylor Ford. Her boyfriend called us and said that all she wants for her birthday is a shout out from Joey and Kelsey and she just turned nineteen and she plays beach volleyball at UCLA. So, guys, can you just say Happy birthday Taylor Ford?
Yeah?
Three two one, Happy Birthday Taylor Ford.
Amazing You guys rock and I can't wait to see your lives together because you're one of my favorite bachelor couples. I'm not just saying that, Hi, guys, good to see you. Hope to see you soon in person.
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