Off the Grid

Published Sep 19, 2023, 5:42 AM

Ben and Ashley are getting ready to head to Dean and Caelynn’s wedding but they have mixed feelings about the remote location.
 
We have a sneak peek at some of the drama coming on this season of Paradise! Wells shared a warning that s*** is gonna hit the fan!
 
Plus, we have more details on the heartbreaking split of Kaitlyn Bristowe and Jason Tartick.

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Hey everyone, we're back the two of us the almost in this podcast, which is great. So we wanted to talk about Ben's trip to Italy. You went with Jess and then both sets of parents, which is really nice. Is that the first trip you guys went on with both sets of parents, like, you know, a vacation.

Vacation.

No, we've done Christmas now together two years in eg Oh yeah, duh. So I mean, first off, it's good to be back. It's nice to be here.

Thanks, We're so happy. We're happy to have you.

Yeah. You you were busy when I was.

I was, we had quite a bit.

You're pumping out some great episodes. Make sure you go back and listen to those. But I am. I am happy to come back and hang out with you and be with the team. So we've done Christmas together a few years in a row. We do it because.

Because your in laws get along so well, isn't it nice to have that. My parents take along really well with Jarry's parents, it is.

And I'm an only child, so that's a good piece, right, So you know, I think for me, there is obviously the desire, the want to spend holidays with my family. However, you know we aren't going to be able to do that forever where we go on vacation for a holiday because kids will come into play, and you know, Justic's parents are about to become grandparents here in about I don't know, a week, and so we wanted to take advantage of the time that we had. Italy was for a few things. One, my mom just turned sixty, her dad just as dad just turned sixty, Her mom is Italian, has never been to Italy, and my dad is retiring soon. And so this was kind of a last year when Jess and I are like, there's so many big things happening in our family's lives. What could we do with them to like celebrate it and to make a memory together? And so Italy was the obvious choice because it's Italy. And so we went to Rome, we went to Florence, we went to Pompeii, and then we went down to the Amalfi Coast and spent five days in the Malfy coast doing like a lemon tour with an incredible company. If anybody wants any lemon tour recommendations, it was amazing.

Is awesome.

I've been all those places. I've been to Italy three times now, just crazy. I know, well, once for a wedding, once for our honeymoon, and then once we did a Mediterranean cruise with my family, so.

We like hit all those little spots. So all those little spots, you know, like realm. So of all the places, where did you think was the best food.

I think the best food that we had had to be in like on the Malfy Coast.

Oh really, okay, So are you a seafood guy.

Well, I'm allergic to shellfish.

Oh that's right, but I like, I mean, I'm obviously a huge fish fan. I just can't have the you know, shrimp and lobsters and clams. I think Rome everybody when I was going to Italy kind of said, hey, Rome a big city. Like it's just a big city. It's gonna be hectic, you know, there's things to do, but it's it's just a big city. I loved Rome. I personally found Rome to be very exciting. Around every corner there's history. There's obviously so much of our kind of Western civilization was kind of like built there, like the foundation of it, and then you know, obviously as somebody who is a Christian, like, there's so much biblical history in Rome with you know, Paul and Peter and then obviously the Roman Empire. So for me, I was just kind of infatuated the whole time with Rome. We had great food in Rome. We went to some restaurants there in Rome, and a little neighborhood. I'm gonna say it wrong, Jessico would say it right, but it's called Traverse. I think it was the name of it, and it was. It was full of good food and good drink. Here's what I'm gonna do, Ashley. I'm gonna upload. I have the whole because I planned this trip for my face. It's kind of like something I wanted to do.

That's so cool. I love that.

I'm going to upload kind of our agenda I haven't written down and so everybody can see and if they're going to Italy soon. I got a lot of messages on social media that people are like, hey, I'm going to Italy next.

Year or next week or whatever.

I'll just upload it and if people want to kind of follow it and know where we ate and where we stayed. We stayed in a Mafi Coast at in a little town called Maori. It's way down south. We did it because it's less expensive and it has a port so we could get around them offy coast by boat. And I would recommend staying in a little town called Minori, which is right next to it, less expensive, doesn't have the hustle and bustle of other places, has amazing food, very local.

So I'll just upload it if people want to follow it.

Cool, it's a great idea. I agree. I mean I liked I even like Roam's food the most.

Yeah, that's great.

I was obsessed with just the architecture there and just walk around the little alleys. I can just do that all day and just be in awe of It's like what every building looks like is just gorgeous.

Yeah.

I have a little bone to pick with the US coming back from Rome.

Yeah, why don't we put effort into our buildings the way that they put effort in.

So I live obviously in Denver. Here's like my opinion. I would love for people to argue with me on it, just because I think it's It's one I want to learn more about, and I think I learned more when people kind of come back with other sides.

Uh.

You know, Rome Italy, Italy in general has buildings that are thousands of years old. Some of these buildings are still standing. Some of these buildings have been refurbished and are being used as amazing like condos and apartments and restaurants. Well in the US, obviously, I work in the restaurant world, and I obviously have a coffee company in coffee shops in the US.

All of our licensing.

To get any type of food prep you have to have cleanable walls and ceilings, which mean you can't have brick like walls in a kitchen. I get that. There's issues to that. I get to like there's some sanitation issues. However, there has to be a good medium because I want to see our one hundred year old buildings, one hundred and fifty year old buildings still be used here in the US, because there's something special about sitting in the basement of a like a thousand year old building and having dinner and breaking bread where people have done it for like years and years. It's very sacred, it's very special, and I miss that here. I don't want everything to be sterile here. I kind of want to have the I want to have some grease on the walls, I guess personally, Yeah.

Yeah, I completely agree with that. Do you feel like this is another thing with America? Like I believe me, I am. I'm an American girl, and every time I go abroad, I am so excited, honestly to come back to America, you.

Know, just like missed the conveniences and like, you know, but like it.

It's great to go there and experience it, and then it's also great to know that you can come home.

So my big thing is.

Just like it's crazy the way that their food over there digests so much better. Did you find yourself to be like able to go walk around and be comfortable after a huge meal and then the next day your stomach be like flatter than ever.

Yeah?

No, I one hundred percent felt this. I also felt this with the wine. You know, you got a bottle of wine at dinner every night, and I would have, you know, two glasses of wine. And if I have two glasses of wine, like I am a cocktail a night kind of guy, or at least a cocktail every couple of nights, just one kind of like it's my thing.

I watch the sunset. But that's about where I can stop. I don't. I don't overdrink in my life.

Jessica knows this because it I hate the feeling and I don't like losing control. It's not that's not why I do it. I've had moments. Obviously you've seen it, but not it's very rare. I after two glass of wine, like I felt great, Like I felt like fine, there's just a yeah, the food and the drink over there just felt like it digested easier. I think if anybody's traveling to Italy, you're gonna find that too. You can eat a bowl of pasta or a whole pizza to yourself and get up and be like I feel pretty good, like I'm rocking and rolling.

Yeah, you can just tell that there's like nothing toxic in the food, and your body knows exactly how to process it, whereas like at home, you know, we don't know really what's in it. But like I do think that there's some sort of guideline or whatnot that like each restaurant needs to source their all their ingredients from a certain radius around them to ensure that it's as fresh as it can be.

In Italy, you think, mm hmmm, yeah, I think I've heard of this.

I mean, you know, remember a few years ago where the shop local trend became very popular and it was kind of a big push, uh, not only from like kind of our generation.

It was maybe eight years ago.

I still think it's a very popular thing to do, but the shop local became very popular. I think that's I think it's a really amazing solution if it's sustainable because you're getting fresh ingredients, because you're supporting your local farmers. And I do think you see that, right, you have produce sitting out like in the kitchen that you can just tell has been picked that day. We did that limon to or like I said, and understood kind of how the limon industry works, but also the struggles that Italy is going to have with the lemon industry here in the next few years because young people aren't entering into farming and so you know, these small farms are no longer maybe sustainable for the lifestyle that the younger generation in Italy wants to live.

So to go back to Italy.

I don't know if listeners are going to be intrigued with all the details, but here's the things I said from our trip that I would recommend what we did.

I think Pompeii is very much worth it.

If anybody tells, yeah, it is, you get a ton of history. And you know, obviously last year we went to Israel. The ruins at Pompeii are in the best shape of any ruins that we've seen through Israel in Italy. I also think the Amalfi Coast is one hundred percent worth Going to the Amalfi Coast is definitely the most beautiful place I've ever been. It is shockingly pretty. And here is the question that everybody wants to ask, how did the trip go? Like, how do to How did the six of us get along? We got along really good. I cannot imagine it going better. There is no arguments. Everybody had enough freedom to do their own thing. But we had a ton of time together. We agreed on stuff, We had a lot of fun together. It was an amazing trip, one that I know when i'm you know, it's crazy when you're in these experiences and you're like, when I'm sixty five years old, I'm gonna look back and remember this trip, like I'm gonna still talk about our trip to Italy with both in laws. It's gonna be something that is a pivotal piece of my life, and so it was.

It was great.

I feel very I don't want to say blessed, because blessed over. I just feel very fortunate, grateful that we were able to do that with both sets of parents and have those memories together. I will say the gelagg was real. My dad suffered really bad with it, like really bad getting there. Getting there it was really hard, and then getting back has kind of been a transition. But you know, eight hours is enough to really shake you up a little bit.

Last question for you, Yeah, what's your take on lemon Cello?

Love lemon Cello. I cannot say that.

I am not a oh my gosh, I'm craving lemon Cello type of person. We did, though, find that the place that we went had Melonchello, had like cream Cello, had chocolate cello, coo. Well, there's a lot of different cello's in there. Lemon Cello, though done well, which they did do it well, is fantastic, but it's not something I crave, maybe as much as others crave Wominchello.

Yeah, they would always give us a shot of Lemonchello because we were on our honeymoon. Yeah, and well Jared would not like could not, And then I was like not super keen, too sweet, too tart. Sorry, but I also cannot deny a free drink, so I took them all.

Yeah, I can't deny it either. Maybe you should have said we were on our honeymoon, you Okay, craziest story from the trip outside of all the other things. I come from a town of forty five hundred people were Sundyana. You saw it aired on The Bachelor. We are in may Ori or Minori, Italy, going to dinner one night. It is right next to our hotel, walking down the street and there's my old neighbors from More Sun Diana walking down the street as well.

Wild as wild as that. Okay, that's the most because it's warsaw. But I always feel like when you're traveling abroad, you somehow find one person that you've met before in life, and it's weird.

It's very weird.

It makes you you know, back when you were a kid and your parents used to say, like, you gotta behave because you never know how it's going to come back around. And I always like, yeah, right, Well, it does. It comes back around. You got to keep your stuff together as you get older, because your circle gets bigger. Ashley, I want to transition this conversation again. I will upload our itinerary from Italy. I think that could be interesting to anybody going over there and may be helpful. I'll give some tips and stuff like that here. In a week, you and I are going to be together. We're gonna be together at Dean and Kaylan's wedding. Okay, obviously, we just had Dean and Kaylan on our podcast and they gave some details around their wedding and some of the fun things they've been doing to lead up to their wedding. Dean and I play golf this week weekend together.

They're out here.

We had dinner with them, and they're very excited for this wedding. I am personally very excited for this wedding. People are coming to Colorado who have never been to Colorado or maybe never experienced real Colorado. And this is obviously a place I live and I love, and I I want people to see an experience. So Dean and I are talking on the golf course and Dean is very excited for this as I said, but he did mention to me. He goes, you know, the thing that's gonna be semi shocking for people is one, this wedding is not an Aspen. I think all of us have been saying it's an Aspen. It's not an Aspen. It's very far from Aspen.

It's over gat.

Yeah, you're not gonna You're not gonna just jump down the mountain and go to Aspen. The second piece is it's a very rustic, very rustic venue where we're staying at the venue. There's not like hotels around, right, So these are cabins, not super well insulated.

They will well, that's good to know.

Yeah, so Jessica and I will be bringing blankets for everybody from our house, will drive us.

What do I dress like is go pretty darn cold.

It could be a little chili. Yeah, it could be a little chilly.

I would definitely prepare for it to be in the fifties, maybe high forties.

Uh. And then there is And this.

Is where I want to talk to you about it because I personally find this to be amazing.

Okay, I think I know what you're gonna say, and it's gonna freak me out. Are you gonna say there's no cell service and Wi Fi?

There's no cell service, but I do believe there's Wi Fi?

Okay, because as a parent, that's not fun, you know what I mean. It's a whole different thing. Like I used to love actually going on The Bachelor and them taking my phone away. I mean like that, yes, human connection, but now it's like totally not okay to.

I get it. Yeah, Okay.

So here's what I was laughing with Dean about, You're gonna have a bunch of people who spend their most of their time and living, influencing, posting and sharing different things. There's not really gonna be that availability. Do you think people are gonna have freakouts? Or do you think most people are going to really enjoy the disconnection from the hustle and bustle of the world.

I think it comes down to whether you have kids or not.

Okay, So those that have kids might be a little nervous.

Yeah, Like, and I'm gonna be honest, Jared doesn't do well.

I don't I wouldn't do well either.

Yeah, I don't know, because like he's also has this other child, which is Audrey's. So it's like she he's like already stressed that he has to run it from like being you know, not there present, and then yeah.

Well I do think there's Wi Fi.

So I think like, overall, you're gonna be able to make it work when you need to make it work. But I don't think you're gonna be walking from cabin to cabin and getting like the ability to text, and so I do think that will be eliminated. But I do think he'll be able to FaceTime and call and do all the things that you can do on Wi Fi. I don't this isn't like in the middle of absolutely nowhere. There is a town.

There, there is a town. Okay.

So Jared also has anxiety, and I understand because I have like extreme rule anxiety. I'll just always remember when I went to James Madison University, which is Harrisonburg, Virginia, which is a very well developed city now with the college. But if you go like ten miles out, it's just pure darkness, Like you could be on a country road and not see any lights left to right for miles and that freaks me out. Yeah, and Jared also has like this anxiety because he just feels like he wants to be independent, like he wants to be able to go grab a coffee whenever he wants to, and if he doesn't have that freedom, that stresses him out. Yeah well, I see, You'll see he'll mask it well with him, but I'm sure he'll.

Be freaking out.

Yeah.

Well, I personally really love this because I love getting out of my comfort zone.

And there's a comfort.

Anti that's the anti Jared. Yeah, he loves his comfort zone.

So we will be attending this wedding in a few days. It's going to be a great celebration. There's going to be more Bachelor Family than I expected to be there.

So excited for Becca and Tanya to be there. I consider Tanya to be an honorary Bachelor Nation.

I forget that she wasn't a part of the y.

I know we've always wanted her to be on, but now we are so excited that our iHeart family member Tanya rad is engaged to the love of her life, Robbie.

So good, so good.

So anyways, it's gonna be a wild experience. I can't wait to share the stories with you. I am so excited to see you all. I'm very excited to see everybody including myself, get out of their comfort zones and into the mountains for a few days to celebrate the love that Dean and Calen have for each other. It's gonna be great, and there's no way you get this many people in one place without some great stories that.

Come out of it.

Yeah.

I'm seriously, like so excited to have like a little Bachelor Nation reunion. But also, you're right, it'll be nice to like not have everybody on their phones and we can actually feel like it's about the reunion, you know what I mean.

It actually talks to people, so yeaheah.

We get to talk to people and I don't feel like I'm interrupting them every time I look at them because they're texting and looking down at their phones.

It's going to be great. Anyways. You hate that we have some Bachelor headlines.

We do have a busy week of some great interviews coming up your way. We are getting closer and closer to the end of our off season. This was our off season. It's why I was able to go.

To Italy short af It.

Is right, and there's a lot of press coming out about the Golden Bachelor. I saw yesterday that I don't think it was official necessarily, but reality Steve did release who he believes is the contestants on this season.

I have no clue how he.

Found from the contestants on Joey season Joey's season that will be coming up.

But The Bachelor also did.

They announced it only on their Facebook page and it isn't unofficial list. There is a friend of mine on the Facebook list, but like, we can't really go above and beyond and get excited because it's all kind of like a teaser. So what happened was with Clayton season, they did the same sort of release, but there were like three girls from the Facebook list that didn't make the cut, so it's very much an unofficial cast list.

Well, it's getting closer. Let's dive into headlines because there are a few. Here's the first. Hannah Godwin reveals her favorite honeymoon memory and why her wedding was in Paris. We had this question, now it's being answered.

Mm hmm, okay.

So the best part of their honeymoon, she said, was having deep belly laughs about so many things, and about and them being in their own little world.

She said. Obviously the food location.

Just relaxing was really nice, but our favorite memories are definitely the laughs that they had. And she even has a little notes, you know, in her notes app she put some of the things that they cracked up over, which I love that idea. It's because you know, how many times do you say, like, what was that thing that we just cracked up over? And you remember the laugh, but you don't remember what the heck you were laughing over. So she documented it so they can go back and look at it. She also said that they decided on Paris because when they were like first out and able to do anything as a couple after Bachelor and Paradise, they went to France.

It was really meaningful to them. They loved it so much.

But they didn't decide on having it there until actually New Year's Eve this past year. So if you guys have ever planned a wedding out there, you know that deciding on a location seven months out is actually quite difficult because the venues have all been sucked up. She goes, that's she goes, that is why we had a Wednesday wedding. So she goes, we highly recommend it.

Yeah, I mean, if you're traveling to Paris, it doesn't really matter what day you're exactly.

You're already making a week out of it.

Yeah, you're making a week.

Next headline is this Katie Thurston, who we obviously announced is going to be on f Boy Island, a creation of somebody who used to be an executive producer on The Bachelor along Gail. But Katie Thurston embraces the humor on f Boy Island season three.

Mm hm.

So she says that her experience on f Boy Island, which does not premiere until Sober sixteenth at eight o'clock on the CW, she says it's like the total opposite of what she had gone through before. So she had never watched the show before being asked to do it, so she binge watched it, and she said she was truly laughing out loud watching Binge watching season two.

She said she was.

Pleasantly surprised by how feminist it was. She said she liked how it was satirical and comedy focused, and so once she saw it, she was like, what, well, yeah, why not? This sounds like it's going to be a really fun time for me. So, if you guys haven't watched Foy Island, Kitty does explain it quite well.

She goes, an f boy.

Is someone who makes decisions in her opinion selfishly. You know, where they're not taking into consideration the person that it could impact. They're doing it for their own gain, pleasure, reward, whatever that is. Whereas these nice guys are going to look at the bigger picture and assess their actions because of that take you into consideration in terms of how it's going to make you feel. They should be honest and how they're always thinking about how decision impacts everybody else. She just said that like being on the show was the antithesis of the Bachelor in tone, because everything is kind of like you can have humor with it. It's lighthearted, nobody's necessarily looking for their soulmate. On f Boy Island, she said that she was able to have conversations like full uninterrupted conversations where nobody was like, okay, okay, guys, let's get more serious, let's talk about marriage, and like if you guys both want to be parents one day, she said she was able to just like have straight, uninterrupted conversations and it was just a more comedy based She also liked the fact that there was like a sisterhood element because she was alongside to other women the entire time, and she was like, worst case scenario, if I don't live with money, I have some new sisters.

And Nicki Glazer is obviously the host of this and probably brings a massive amount of humor to the show, and it's going to be you know, it's an intriguing watch, I think, and it's an interesting concept. It's great to hear Katie be so positive about a reality television experience. That's not something we're used to, right, I mean, yeah, she obviously had a really great experience, and she trusted the team because I don't think she had any interest in during reality television necessarily again, after her time, I don't think she loved her time as the Bachelor, at least from what she has said. So she obviously trusted the team and went on and then came ou off of it. And it's like, hey, this is really great.

Yeah, so good for love.

Yeah, this is a big one one that we've kind of been speculating for a bit, just didn't have the answers, but today we do. Michael a has officially confirmed his breakup with Daniel Mulby. This one hurts deeply, actually, very deeply.

It's very sad, yes, very assumed. We pull it up and read it directly, which it was about time to be honest, because like, what are you to do just like fade your relationship into obscurity with the fans that have followed it from the very beginning? Like you know, you know, you start a relationship on TV, you kind of have to if you're if it's going to end, you kind of have to discuss it.

Do you agree with me on that?

I do?

I mean I think I think at some point you just have to confirm that it's no longer a relationship because if not, then, I mean I think everybody is probably in your comments and in your messages making exceptions and then what happens when you get seen on a date with somebody else?

Yeah, it lingers longer than it needs to. Yeah, okay, Yeah, So he actually said it on Jason Tartic's podcast. The episode was released today September eighteenth. He says, it's not what we plan.

We both threw a lot into this relationship, and it's awful when it doesn't work out. You mourn the loss of not just that person and friend in your life, but also the future that you had envision. That's so true. A lot of it is like the death of the dreams of the relationship that hurt the most, in my opinion, he said, And it's to no fault of hers. She poured everything into this. We're still, you know, working through some things and trying to stay close, but the last few months have been really rough. He's ended the conversation by saying that starting over again is always frightening. I know that time will heal, because I've felt that before, but it doesn't make this anything any less difficult. And he just said, yeah, yeah, that's basically all he said on Jason's podcast.

But we'll have to listen to that too.

This is an interesting headline for me. I obviously know people still working on Paradise, working within Paradise. I don't know what he's talking.

About me neither. Okay, I.

Feel like I'm pretty I don't know any of the spoilers for Paradise.

I just refuse.

But I do always like to hear about the kind of the some of the characters. I like to hear about some of the like the vibe of Paradise and kind of how it plays out. That's kind of where I liked it, because Paradise intrigues me. I've never been, so it's kind of like this mystery place. But this is the headline. Jesse Palmer promises unique twist for Bachelor in Paradise season nine. This according to Yahoo. I don't know what this twist is. I have no idea what he said.

I know, Okay, So here's the quote.

There's going to be something really special and unique about this season, something to celebrate. I think all Bachelor Nation is going to be really really excited about it. Everyone on the beach will be too. I really cannot wait to see what happens and where this goes. Now, before I continue, I just want to say that, like, this sounds different than last year's twist, which was separating the cast and adding more in while the girls.

Were Nobody liked that.

So Jesse says that everybody's going to be excited about it. However, Wells does not share this sentiment. He says, I imagine. Wells says, I imagine that there will be things that people are not expecting to happen, and they're probably going to be.

Very angry about it.

He says, I'll be fine because I'll be making drinks and just watching the dumpster fire happen in front of me. So I was so interested about this headline that I texted Joe because I knew that her best friend Rachel Rekia was on this season, and I.

Go, what is this about? And now, of.

Course, like she knows for sure, and we don't like to spoil things on the show. But later in this article it does touch on something that Jill did touch on in the text that she responded to me. She brings up the truth box. So we see the truth box in the teaser, and I think, like, I don't know whether the truth box is like you put secrets in there about people and then at some point they're read out loud, or whether it's kind of like one of those things where you take a question out of the truth box and like you're sitting around some campfire and it's like an activity where you know, you pull it out and you need to like answer. Honestly, it's like who is the troublemaker in the clan or who is the one to most likely steal your boy?

If this is the twist that's getting publicity, then they're really hurting because that is not a huge twist.

It's a twist.

I would love the well if it was my first explanation or guests where like you just put in your little thoughts and then at some point somebody.

Has to read all these secrets out loud.

Yeah, here's my problem with that. Ashley obviously have a problem with stuff.

And that's good for me as a viewer, not for me as part of the cast.

Well, it feels like social media to me.

You can hide behind something like if you're able to put in a box something about somebody else that maybe isn't positive, then it's almost like social media because you're hiding behind a screen, You're hiding behind this. Nope, I don't know. Obviously we're speculating everything. But if there is the ability to call somebody out but not have to do it to their face, then I don't think it's healthy. Like I think one of the things about Paradise that is mos then with health you know, yeah, well, I think one of the things that that makes Paradise great is you have to confront these things, right, think about the Blake Hortsman stories, the Dean stories, the love trying to breakups, the thing that we love about Paradise is that you can't run away from this stuff, Like you can't hide it and just get eliminated. You have to confront it at some point because you're counting on this partner or you're counting on this dynamic to get you to the next week. So maybe possibly you can find your forever person. I like that about Paradise. I like that you're on a beach, isolated in one area of men and women living together trying to figure it out.

I don't want that to go away. I don't want it to be buffered.

Okay, totally see where you're coming from. I just say, don't you think that if this truth box and these secrets come out that like immediately people are gonna.

Be like, it's that person who said it, and then you're gonna have to confront it anyway.

Yeah, maybe arguments.

Yeah, it's definitely helping helping people get better at being me.

That's exactly what it's doing.

You're so right, I don't even know that that's what it is. I actually don't even think that's what it is. I think it like brings up questions and then you guys have to like discuss it.

Yeah, it's great.

It's like going back to high school around, like when you sit around, you're like, you know, what is the game when you put down one finger?

You raise a finger?

Yeah, oh you mean never have I ever?

Yeah, it's kind of like that, like never have I ever? Like, but it's a different kind of game where it's bringing truth out, it's forcing conversation, it's helping people share things or talk about things that maybe they wouldn't And so if that's the case, I could get behind it. I could get behind that. I just don't know if that is a big enough twist to be promoting publicly.

Certain certainly not. But they do this to this every year. I know when I first saw the headline.

I was like, Oh, what are they gonna do. Are they going to tell everyone that.

Like there's no need for engagements or something, No where there's gonna be no engagements or like, I don't know, I.

Thought, big, you know what, I'm excited for this season, and I think the cast is going to be a really good cast with some big characters that we've known and watched. I always get excited for Paradise. Now this year I kind of get the double whammy with the Golden Bachelor, so we'll be better about I'll be watching with just.

A breaking news.

Ben never went on the show. And it's done. It's done filming, it's done filming.

Yeah, I've never there, never there. You won't see it.

They had other they had other alums there.

I thought for sure, at least I would get a phone call to, you know, be like, hey, this is actually happening, come be a part of this with us. You wanted it, you wanted to be a part of it so bad. I don't know what else to do anymore. I'm kind of like I felt like I for the first time kind of went out of my comfort zone and publicly said and asking and so and that was kind of the advice that everybody gave me that you know is around me. And they said, just ask, Like if you ask, like they're gonna have to like consider it. They want it considered. Maybe they just don't think about you anymore.

And so I did. I asked, and.

Then yeah, I don't know, backfire or some I don't know ever got a phone call. So what are you gonna do?

You get a But I'm just gonna sit at home and enjoy it.

You're gonna enjoy. We have to put it behind.

Us and now my life stay. My life continues on like it always has. It just means less time away from my wife, less time away from my dog, less time away from Colorado, place that I love. There's so much good to it. It's just a little frustrating. But here's what I'm thinking, Ashley, think about this a lot.

You're going to be the host of the season too.

Of let's give it another shot. Let's go right back and let's start another petition. As we said, we have a big week of content coming your way, some very exciting things coming up. We are ending our off season on a high note. I think it's been a great off season. We will be breaking down next week look for I mean, I'm so excited to break down Deanon Kaylin's wedding with Ashley because I think both of us are going to have maybe different perspectives, but different things that we have participated in. I'm very excited to see Ashley in person and Jared in person.

Are you excited to see me participate in like field games?

I am very I always there's one of my one of my favorite activities to seeing you get competitive.

It's it's fantastic.

I'm mentally competitive, like with trivia, but never physically because I know I cannot. You're referring to Winter Games when you just saw the worst.

Of my athleticism.

Yeah, you and my wife have a very similar, uh kind of way of going about cold weather. You bundle yourself up to look like a marshmallow, like, you put on as many layers and many hats as possible, and your arms are just kind of stuck because I like socks.

Yeah, you're electric socks. It's it's a sight to be seen.

Obviously, this one, well, it's gonna be cold, but we're gonna break down everything here on the Almost Famous Podcast.

Uh.

Tune in this week for some more episodes pop in your way, But until next time, I've been Been, I've been Ashley.

See you later, guys.

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