Peter Weber’s season of The Bachelor is officially underway, and we have the man of the hour here with us!
Ben and Ashley grill Pilot Pete about everything that went down in the first episode. He tells us about the “spoiler free finale” and how it’s IMPOSSIBLE to predict what happens to him.
We find out the real reason why he didn’t reach out to Hannah and he opens up about his crazy injury!
Plus we get you up to speed on all the news in Bachelor Nation, like Blake getting punched in the face and who was voted “Favorite Bachelor of All Time”!
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This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with on our radio Pilot Pete. Season is off to a soaring star. I'm not even kidding. This season has opened up with the highest ratings that we've ever seen in Bachelor history, and it just continues to build on itself every season, every season. And here's the thing, Pilot, Pete is going to be on our show today. But before we do, actually and I have an important announcement. Actually take it away. We are doing a live show in San Francisco this coming Saturday, January eleventh. The show starts at eight, the doors open at seven anyone in the San Francisco area. We want to see you. What'll be talking with you personally. We're gonna be playing games on stage with some of your Bachelor favorites. There's gonna be a performance. We're gonna get really in depth with Derek, Peth and Paith that's right, path Um and all. We're gonna get the nitty gre of his past season of Paradise. But most of all, we can't wait to interact with you guys, see your faces in person. It's gonna be really nice to you know, to see the people that we talked to every week, so please come out. You can still get tickets at ape Concerts dot com and ticketmaster dot com. Tickets start at thirty five dollars. We cannot wait to see you there. Actually I'd pay thirty see you It is true though, I mean we've done this thing um for two or years. Two years now, we're over fifty million downloads. That's a lot of people and a lot of minds and interactions that we miss out on because the studio gets a little lonely. This is something we want to do for a long time, and Ashley and I now get to do it, and we're coming to San Francisco to see you all there. Hey, this episode is is a massive one every season. Um, we get really excited for opening week of The Batchelor, not only because we now we have something uh to hagible to talk about, but also because we get the lead onto our podcast. And today we have a ton of time with pilot Pete. Yes, the man himself is coming into our studio. And then Ashley, you have some really pointed questions I know about this season in general. I'm going to talk so much about the ten minutes that we had of Hannah Brown on that episode. It was so good, so good, I'm presidented. It's it's a lot of process. Here's how we're gonna do this thought. Pete is going to be coming into studio here in a little bit. Before he gets in, actually, I'm going to break down this episode and what we feel and what we think about it. But before we do, there's some massive things going on in Bachelor Nation that we have to talk about. Yeah, and we haven't been here for two weeks, so we have to catch up on that. It's been too long. So actually, before we break down the Bachelor news that is happening in the last two weeks, let's take a break here from our sponsors and come back ready to go. Alright, guys itan Bachelor news. About a week or so ago, Courtney Robertson came out an announced on Instagram that she's engaged in expecting her first child with fiance Humberto Prissa Precidio. I really like his name. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it a beautiful, but its beautiful. I'm so happy for her. We've had her on the show before. She's the sweetest she I know. People who just saw her on bed for next season. It's like, she's the sweetest. No, She's truly a very kind woman, and I know how badly she wanted to have a family of her own, and I'm really happy it's coming together for her now. Then we also had Dean's skiing accident, which happened over the Christmas break. I know that Dean did an episode of Help by Second Dating where he kind of broke down exactly what happened and his recovery that he has to go through in Europe. It's this is a wild one. Actually, these two news stories are not small, right. I mean, as we talked about, Corty Robertson came on our podcast during our season because she was friends with Ari and so she talked a lot about kind of their relationship. And then Dean, Dean, this is a major accident. And I don't know about you, but I was home in Indiana for the holidays. My mom and I were on Instagram like scrolling through together, and this Dean's story that pops up, and it's excruciating, Like it's hard to watch because he's laying in this story. Yeah, it's he's laying in the snow looking up at the sky and at the time you're like, ha ha, Dean kind of felt like he's not that hurt to come to find out that his whole hip was dislocated as a leg was broken. Can you believe how calm he was. He's just like, oh, look, there are some birds that are going to feast on my dead body. When when somebody, you know, when I'm not gonna get I he's choking and like he wasn't crying. He's just laying in snow in what I imagine is just utter pain. I can't believe. I think, like what he said on his Instagram story was that he called for help and then they didn't really make it seem like it was that urgent. And then after an hour of lying there, somebody skied right by him, and then he went to go get help and he finally got somebody. But I don't think he was attended to for like an hour and a half after he fell. It's I mean, like now it really does make sense of why he thought maybe he was going to die. Things are bad, I mean matter Dean is a daredevil m He pushes me to my limits anytime we hang out. The guy really has um just a massive adrenaline. I don't know what you call it. He's adournaline junkie and the guy just loves kind of risking it. Here's a sad part about this story, and then we can move on. I think Dean's days of being a daredevil might be coming to an end. He's not getting younger, and this doesn't help. I don't think he's going to be able to write. I mean, doesn't A dislocated hip and a broken famer like kind of stay with you forever, like you may never be again. I don't. I doubt you'll ever be again. We feel free. Dam we loved Dean, UM, love Courtney somebody we don't know well. I don't think he's ever been on the podcast. Um. He's kind of gone off and done a couple of these other shows. He pops up in the news every once in a while in some controversy. Ashley Robbie Hayes is now on cs Q. Yeah, so I haven't watched cs A key, I'll be honest. I know that he is dating the scool name Juliet on it, and that his sex tape with one of the a it was a surveillance camera. It wasn't a real sex tape. It becomes part of the drama on cst Q, I believe. Anyway, Robbie is on CSQ on MTV. Do you guys wat check that out? Listeners. I gotta get your perspective here, because shows a show. We get it. The Bachelor feels, um, it feels fine to do like I would recommend my friends doing it and my loved ones doing because it can work or there's a lot of self growth through it. What do you all think about a Bachelor contestant or any of these continuing to go on these reality shows? Is it something that we just should celebrate? Is it something we go ad this? This feels weird? Um? Either way, Robbie Hayes is on cs T key if you want to watch him, tune in. If not, I'm not going to be doing it. Yeah this next story. Actually have a lot of questions for you on so please, uh let the listeners know what's going on. But I have a lot of questions for you. I don't think I have many answers, but I have further speculation. Go for it. So, Caitlin Bristow says publicly and I quote, so why I have bitter feelings towards one person from the Bachelor out of hundreds, I will choose to love the hundreds of others who changed my life, she wrote on Monday. I will try to remember the positive experiences. Ashley. Two things for you. Where is this coming from? And who is that one person? Is it Sean or is it somebody else? I gotta think that it's Sean. And if it's not Sean, then I feel like it might be a producer, somebody behind the scenes. But I think it has to be Sean, right. I just think it's where that she even like brought it up, because I think we're actually at the point where people are associating Caitlin more with Jason than Caitlin with Sean, and she still meant him through the Bachelor process. So I don't know why she would even bring it up. But is this in an interview with with the Entertainment? What was interesting was that this was on her Instagram story. That was on her Instagram was her Instagram caption, So like she brought it up on her own, unless like something that we don't know spurred it on. Here's the here's the part about this that I kind of was shook by because my mind immediately and I'm sure to listeners out there as well. When I read this, my mind immediately went to Nick, like, oh, she's talking about Nick. She has bitter feelings towards Nick. Nick was but now they've healed things. She came onto the podcast, he came on her as they did a little switcherru thing they're good now. So it's not Nick, it's not me. I don't think, Um, you know, it must it has to be Sean or maybe there's a few that we just don't know about. Either way, Um. She did make a public statement on her Instagram and that yes, uh is news hey one. A couple of other things here bats Our Nation's Blake Hortsman's manage sword surgery after a crazy person randomly punches him. Crazy person in quotes because that's what Blake said. He said he was standing in New York City. Somebody randomly punched him in the face. For people. Here's my thoughts here, How in the world does one person get four good punches in on four different people? Um, I don't know, that's really weird, but I thought the same thing like boom boom boom, and then runs away. If my buddy is getting pounded in the face. You better boom leave that. I'm not letting him pound myself, my buddy, and another buddy before we let him go. Yeah, this would be a strong rock type person, crazy person quote quote. The last piece of Bachelor news we have until we dig into the episode, because I know that's what you guys want the most, is that he recently did a tally of sorts of the Bachelor alums favorite Bachelor and our winner was ours truly, Ben, Ben, you are the favorite Bachelor of all time when when tallied up amongst the participating bachelor alone. Yeah, well it's sweet, it is. I mean, there's been some awesome ones. I was thinking about that. Here's a funny part Ashley about this. Um I tipped. I mean I was asked for my favorite Bachelor. I I love Nick Vile, Um, I love souls. I love these recent guys, and I'm buddies with their great dudes, um and friends of mine. I really just love Andrew Fireston and Bob getting did for me personally as they gave me like kind of mentored me along the way. And now guys come to you to be mentor. I actually, yeah, I just saw Peter at the NBC building before he's coming in here, and he was talking about you for a second, and I was like, oh, yeah, nobody does the Bachelor anymore without talking to mentor Bend first. Well, and here's what's cool about it. Actually, I really do believe this. I don't these things don't typically kind of like shrug off my shoulders or I get a little like embarrassed. You know, you just feel like this is whatever. I read these and I read what people are saying about me, and I'm sitting in Nashville at Jessica's house, and I start to tear up because here's some things that people said, Like they said, Hey, when he looks at you, you like, I know he cares. And if I can do that in my life and if that's how people are seeing me, like it's almost as a sense of like like wow, Ben, like you are doing this, like you are like people like you do love people. Well, it was reminder that I kind of needed to know that people feel loved by me. You love people so hard and people love you so hard. That's so sweet. Well, hey, bachel Nation, I'll continue to be around um for a long time. In fact, Hey, I'm gonna be seeing you in your hometown sixties six cities coming up here in February. The Bachelor Live on Stage is coming to your hometown, so I will be around for a while and maybe, just maybe we'll build a meet in person, I hope. So, so, listeners, please look for the Bachelive on Stage coming to a city near you. Becky Coofer and I will be meeting and greeting. Will be allowing love to flourish on stage amongst locals in the hometown. And yes, if you come to the event, you will be involved as well. It's gonna be a great time. So go to Bachelive on Stage dot com make sure you check it out. Ashley, let's take one more break. We'll come back. We'll break down this episode and then we'll bring the man himself right onto the episode. And I'm pumped for it. So before we bring Pilot Pete on, because it's gonna be happening, listeners, hold tight, buckle up, you're gonna all this ridiculous. Hey, Pilot Pete's coming on the episode, but before he does, Ashley and I want to give our thoughts on last night's opening night. I'll start Okay, I think the women are going to be terrific this season. They're beautiful. I think Pilot Pete today a great job. I thought he was goofy, I thought he was awkward, I thought he was weird. I thought he was smiley, And I think that's all we want and a bachelor, because really you could tell he wasn't trying to be impressive. He was just trying to be the best version of himself possible. The second, UM, thing I just talked about was the women. The women were awesome last night, like engaged, they were passionate. Uh, they tried hard, they were bold, and they were beautiful. The bold and the beautiful. It's how I describe Peter's women actually from there. What were your takeaways initially? Um, I have four girls that stood out to me, one being Hannah Brown. How did you feel about her coming back and doing it in this moment, like in this way she's she's telling Peter about how she's feeling. And I I am always going to be a fan of just like getting it off your chest and even even if like the ideal time to do it has passed. So I know a lot of people are on the internet being like, Hannah, you had chance after chance, get off my TV screen, blah blah blah. And I can understand where they're coming from, but in this moment, I feel like you just have to get it out there. You have to get out there. Do you think it was selfish of her to come back right now? No? I don't think it's selfish. So my thought is, I don't There's so much to this. I don't want to know, and we can only really talk to Hannah about it. I two theories about what happened the show, and the producers knew that Hannah still probably had strong feelings for Peter, and they knew that if she showed up and saw him face to face, she might be interested in pursuing something more. So here's my thought, and it's always been this towards the show, is if you're in love, and if we're trying to pursue a life, lifetime lasting love, like there is no boundaries to that. There there is no like easy, straightforward way. If she feels like she loves him and that there's a chance that he could love her back and that they could be happy together forever, no matter what the history was, then come on to the season, because ultimately, if this ends with him picking his second choice and Hannah was his first, that's gonna be a sad moment for him and the woman he chooses. So no, not selfish, but I want to know. Listeners please emails at Ben and Ashley at I heart media dot com or on Twitter hashtag almost from his podcast. I think Hannah had no clue why or what she was showing up for until she saw Peter face to face, and at that moment she realized that she was in deep I think the first time she came out of the limo, she thought, who uh, I feel jealous, right, And then I think the second time she was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna be here, I'm gonna exert my dominance, Like I bet you he still wants me more than anyone else here, which is probably true because he knows her the most there. And then um when it was time to leave, and I think she was like, oh, wow, this is really it. This is this is gonna be the end of us. That's this. If I don't say something now, then I may never have my chance with Peter and it may be the biggest regret of my life. And You guys know I've said at a zillion times on this show, but I'm a big fan of not leaving any what ifs. I think that everybody should eliminate as many ways to never look back and think, I wonder what would have happened if And I think that was her eliminating that. We don't even know how the conversation concludes, but well, we'll see next week. Do I think it's great that she came back on. I don't know if I can define it as great. Do I think it's a problem. I think it will cause a massive problem in the house, and I think the women will feel really really confused at why Peter, after meeting all of them, still decides to go back with somebody that he's already given it a shot with. I think the biggest problem here is not Hannah coming on and not her problem, and not that she's selfish. I don't think it's Peter for saying, hey, come into the house again. I think it will be the problem that Peter then has to navigate with the other women now involved. Very very good thoughts, Ben. My other girls that stood out was Hannah Anne, who I didn't like from her very first package seemed a little conceited. She's the model. She's also the one that got the first impression Rose and the one that um interrupted girls even after she got her first night number one kiss. And I'm like, okay, you're You're definitely caught his eye. Let's not be obnoxious now. And not only did I find it obnoxious how many times she interrupted, so I also found it really cold of her when she sat down with that girl who she interrupted. She just seemed fake. She seemed like she didn't think she did anything wrong, and it was condescending she acted to me, and how I viewed it, it seemed like she was really looking down on the girl who she hurt. I was just getting a general vibe of coldness. I think I try to put myself in Peter situation. Here's the biggest difference between Peter and I'm sure there's a lot. He likes boldness and I hesitant. Like if somebody came up to me three nights and three times a night one my guard would go up and go, what is exactly happening here? Like why is there? Why why are you being this person? Because you know it's going to rub people the wrong way, and I don't want to be with somebody that is intentionally or maybe even non intentially running people the wrong way. But Peter chose her with his first impression Rose, which makes me think he's into that. Like he wants somebody that's forward, he wants somebody that kisses him right away, he wants somebody that will will fight and grab for him, and like, that is a difference with Peter and I. You wouldn't have seen that with me. Yeah, she seemed like she would be the kind of like a confrontational girl, right. I would have been on I would have been on edge and gone, why why do you? Like? At some point I would say hey, Hannah, and like you're great. I think you're beautiful. You're gonna be here next year, in weeks after this. But here's what we have to remember. There's a lot of other people involved, so and I would come up with a better way to say. But really, what Peter needs to tell her is like, make my job easier by not doing this anymore. Please, totally, totally um. And then Madison was such a standout. I thought Madison came across confident, but not with any sense of ego, very comfortable with her self. She wasn't she wasn't trying to charge. She didn't look over eager. She just was like, I am me, and we're we're having good conversation and I'm fitting in with your family so well. I just like, I don't think there was one little thing to nippick at Madison. I think that was a perfect date. She set the standard so high for one on ones. I got a lot of tweets. I mean a lot. I don't know. Again, I don't know how you quantify a lot. I got multiple tweets comparing Madison to Jessica, my girlfriend, and so she's bringing off Jessica vibe. I felt the exact same way. I thought that which is a great thing, Yes, a terrific thing, UM, because like I would say, Jessica is the most loyal, sweet, caring, like attentive person I've ever met, and so to have Madison like compared to her, I think it's a huge compliment to Madison, especially if people are tweeting me about it. You know, Ashley, I think I take this away. I I I'm a Hannah and fan because of the way, because of the way her family was during UM, the dinner and the way she communicated about Peter. The thing is this Hannah An might have the Peter syndrome. Meeting Hannah And could do a lot of wrong. And because of like just how like cute she is, we're gonna be like, that's okay, Tanna just being Hannah. You know, Peter can make out with a bunch of people a night wanted it's Peter being She's cute, for sure, she's stunning, But I just find I found her not a girl's girl. I think that's the part that might throw me off the most, and I need to see more of her. Is because when you come up three times in one evening and you know people are gonna be upset about it, like that makes me go this, there's more to this, Like I'm not willing because if you remember, right, Hannah And was one of my favorites going into this night one, so I'm a little bit biased. But I have to see a little bit more from her because right away I was going, wait, this feels weird, like you're too like you're confident yet this you know this is causing controversy, and I don't want anybody that's going to cause controversy. So I get what you're saying. I just am not willing to go away from Hannah and quite yet, there have been multiple people that have been Villain's Night one, and then all of a sudden, a couple of weeks in, we're like, oh my god, can you believe that she was a Villa Night one and that could happen with her? I don't know. I just really didn't like the way that she sat, how she sat down with the other girl, and how cold she came across. That was the most telling. The interrupting itself is like, okay, so you want to store something up, but it was the way she handled that conversation that really like wave my red flag. M that's interesting, Okay, I get it. I'm not I'm not against it. Um. I just she was like my favorite I think, and I'm not willing to put it down, but I will say Madison was my biggest surprise at Fantastic So good. And so then we have talked about Kelly because Kelly was the other big, per big, other role player in this episode. She met Peter a couple of months ago while she was at a wedding and he was at a reunion at the same hotel. And the girls don't like her because well, one, she's already had time with Peter, and too, she cheated on the relay race during the first group date. She went straight when she was supposed to go like a swiggle pattern on the twice ago, and then she ends up with extra time on a sunset flight with Peter, and of course the girls are sensing how much of a heads up she has in this competition. I understand how they could be a little bit jealous, but I also don't think it's been anything that she's done. She couldn't help it. She ran into him, that she had a connection with him. What do you think about that? I like her. I like this date. Yeah, first off, I love the date. I thought the flight school thing was like super creative and fun and enjoyable. I think she cheated, Yes, very clearly she cheated. However, um, it's just kind of like one of those things where was it intentional cheating or was she just in the moment and like peddling as fast she could and ended up going straight instead of around the curves And then she's done, and then nobody said anything, so she just went onto the flight. Either way. Here's how we have to look at this and hear how the girls in the house have to look at it is you're still like there's other women out there, You're you're not competing as much as you're pursuing time and time is your biggest resource, and so she has more time than other women. Instead of complaining and using your time to complain and get distraught about it, say hey, I'm still in this. Peter is still interested in me now tonight, I'm gonna make sure to sit him down and tell him Kelly did her thing whatever she was one out of the twenty of us or whatever that that got to do that. But right now with you, Peter, I want you to know how I feel and what I want out of this, like take advantage of your time and not spend it getting distraught and upset because there's a lot of time left. And the earliest the earlier you get start getting like emotionally attached and upset, the earlier it's gonna get harder and harder, which we saw. I mean, actually, I don't remember a group date, a first group date like this where any more tears were shed, Like there were so many tears shed on this date. And it makes me think that these women need need to know, like this isn't over yet by no means is it over? Yeah? Did you? I liked her personally and as somebody who wasn't victimized by the time that she had. I didn't find myself reading against her at all. I wasn't on the other women's side. I was like, hey, other women, just yeah, like what you said, deal with it, move on, use your time for you. Yeah, now I'm with you. I mean. The part that kind of was sad in a sense is like they kind of put Kelly into a corner where it felt like she had no good explanation. Hey, you cheated and you took time with Peter what she supposed to do say, sorry, hey cheated, I'm gonna bow out. I'm not gonna go on this plane ride like I don't need to because I no, like, don't force her into being um the villain here. She took time with the man that she's pursuing, and at that we have to leave it there. And I think that's where, you know, contestants, the show gets so sucked up in the immediate and they don't look at the long, long term and the long play here and The truth is, Hey, they had just as good a shot with with Peter Um as Kelly did. The next part I really want to talk about, So Madison is one on one was terrific. H Kelly's time with Peter seemed like a spark flu. Hannah came into um at a limo and surprised us all. Was there any other limo kind of entrances that shook you before we end this breakdown with talking about what happened with Hannah Brown backstage? There wasn't no one who came out of the limo that I was like, Oh man, she like she got him from the first impression. Was there anyone for you? No? I agree. I thought I thought were all high quality. I thought they were all really good. I thought they were some funny ones. The condoms kind of made me giggle. Um, there was like I have one dry the girl, the Victoria. The Victoria was like that took some like that took some guts. It reminded me of like a Caitlin Bristow entrance. UM, like there were some ones that stood out, But no, I'm with you, there wasn't one that I go, that's it, Like, That's why I think this season will be fun because there isn't necessarily a front runner except for the girl that we're gonna talk about next, and when Peter comes on in a bit, we're gonna ask him about it as well. Before we talk about Hannah Brown, let's take a break, talk about our sponsors, and we'll get back to break down Hannah Brown before Peter comes on. Okay, actually I have to hear thoughts. Peter is on his way. He'll be here in a few minutes. Um, Hannah Brown is sitting backstage now with Peter. Um, we've talked about is it an issue or not? Here really we can summarize everything we've talked about in this. Do you think Peter and Hannah Brown are together today? I think there's a fifty fifty chance that they are. Holy count But wait, what do you think? Yeah? Actually, uh, Jessica last night Um texted me and she goes, I have a theory. And she doesn't watch She hasn't watched the show until we started dating, and so she's like a two year well two and a half year or two and a half two season vet now at this and she goes, I have a theory that Hannah and Peter are together, and I think kind of the people that haven't watched it longest will be the ones that could tell us the most accurate truth, so that because they're not biased, and I think Jessica might be onto something. I really think that Hannah Brown and Peter could be together, which, again, as we talked about, not a bad thing, shocking though for the world. What it's crazy is that we would have one season Hannah's that didn't end with like a normal outcome, that we would have another season Peters that also didn't end with the normal outcome, but all could have just been solved. Had Hannah picked Peter, it wouldn't be half as much fun and Warner Brothers would have made half as much money. They would have been so much less of a time commitment on our part. Um Ashley, to summarize this whole breakdown, what are some things that you don't know that you're most looked like, some storylines that you're most looking forward to going into the rest of the season. Well, I do have a theory that I want to express once Peter comes, but it also has to do with him ending up with Hannah. I think the mystery that they have given us to solve is what is the news that Chris Harrison comes to Peter with on that finale day? And I hope that we get a clue every week. I wonder if it'll just be like the fence Jump, where they're going to tease a teez a tease it and we're not going to get like a lot of context, or are we going to get a clue each week to help solve it. I think you're spot on. I think this season is gonna be very intriguing. I think this season will be unlike anything we've seen. I do imagine that it will be twists and turns and untraditional until the very end. And when Peter comes on, I want to break down kind of his thought process on on being the Bachelor and seeing not if we can get the ending out of him as much of it is as he sits here today, is he glad he did it? Hey, I'd say a great night one for Peter. I'm excited to bring him in the studio. He's on his way, he just arrived, he's walking in right now. So as we get him settled, let's take another break and come back with the man himself, Pilot Pete New Year new decade, New chances for love. For the first time ever ever, we're bringing the journey to you with the Bachelor Live on stay Age. Becka Koufern and I can't wait to hit the road as your co host of this amazing journey. But we need your help. We can't guide our local Bachelor's alone. We need the opinions of our live audience. That's you. Yes, you check the website for the full list, go to Bachelor Live on Stage dot com. But here's where we're headed. The first two weeks of this amazing adventure Mesa Rena, Santa Rosa, Baker's Field, San Jose, Modesto, Salt Lake City, Cheyenne, Denver, El Paso, Tucson, San Diego, and l A. From the first impression to the final rows of the evening, it all happens live on stage, and you can experience it all raw and unedited. Visit Bachelor Live on Stage dot com to look for a place near you. Whether you're looking for love or you want to enjoy the show from your seat, It's going to be a night to remember. This is a special day f ash and as we mentioned earlier in the podcast, one of our favorite episodes of the season is when we bring the lead on to talk about Opening Night. The rest of the season just picked their brains a little bit, and today we're lucky enough to have the man himself in Student, the man himself who brought the highest ratings to any opening night in Bachelor history. Pilot past so crazy. This show keeps getting bigger and bigger does it's a beautiful show. Well, thank you for being here, Peter. Um. We only have you for about a half an hour, so I'm not going to like do pleasantries. I'm going to get into the question. Okay, straight to the point, and we'll talk about something that you've talked about a lot of places over the past couple of days. A spoiler free finale, so kind of up. Yeah. So my only deduction when hearing that is that you haven't picked anyone yet. That's uh yeah, that's a reasonable guess. Um. I guess the main reason why I said that was just the so that last week for me was was just an insane week. It was definitely the hardest week in my life, and um, I definitely couldn't have predicted what ended up happening. There's just no way I could have and that's kind of what made me say that. Um, Literally, up until the very last second, that's happening, that which we see when Chris Harrison comes to you with possibly life changing news. Yeah, that's that's no bs Um. Literally until the very last day, the last second, I'm going through stuff. And again, it was the most beautiful experience in my life, but the hardest, and that last week was definitely the hardest, the entire thing. Now, we normally don't utter the words reality seve, especially when they're Bachelor producers in the room, but I like, he hasn't figured it out. And when I was typing my Cosmo article yesterday, I started like puting all these little puzzle pieces together, and while I was writing, I was like, oh my god, I think I just spoiled the season. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you my theory right now briefly, and if you guys want more detail, you can go rent. I don't even want you to respond to it. I want to tell the audience what your face looks like when I say the theory. Okay, I'm very exciting, and I'm sorry you guys that there's no video attached to this, so um, I realized that your finale, when you're supposed to hand out your final rows, seemed to have coincided with Hannah Brown's Dancing with Stars win. And my theory is that Chris Harrison comes to you saying, we just found out that Hannah won Dancing with the Stars and that she felt like it was great, but you weren't there to celebrate with her, so like she's still wanting you back, like you're still a huge missing part of her life. And Peter has a huge smile on his face and he's laughing, and the mirror ball it wasn't enough for her. And then, um, you find this out and you were about to give out your final rows, but then you realize that you couldn't give out that rose yet until you dated Hannah in real life. So right now or in the past month or so, you've dated two girls in real life, and now on the after the final rows, which there was no final rows, you will decide who you're going to be with. This is what I tell you. Well, I don't put this podcast on the universe, we'll see it. I'm excited for I want to fall along and um, I keep going back to as well, like I kind of related to football. If you know, you know the Super Bowl, you know the outcome, it's a little bit different. One would you watch the whole season the same way? Probably not. So It's just it's just cool. I think it's a unique thing and it's something fun if if no one figures it out. And again, now I didn't go into it, expect you all. I'm going to have this be unspoiled. That was never again, You're gonna see I couldn't have predicted what happened. Um P. I gotta ask you though, because I'm trying to go back in my mind of what it was like and I can't really remember. But after last night, right, this story starts for you and for the next you know, ten plus weeks, this will be the story that people are watching and unfolding alongside of your life. But this has already happened in your life. This is a huge moment probably no matter how this ends up, the biggest, one of the biggest, if not the biggest moment in that you've ever had in your story as a human. What is it like now sitting here today, going all this has happened. There's been a ton of tears a ton of emotion, a ton of love, whatever, and I'm sitting here going I have this all kind of like inside of me build up and I just can't talk about it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm sure you know exactly what I'm feeling right now. It's it was, It is the craziest feeling I you know, I kind of had the hiatus from when we finished filming and you know, you're processing everything, all the good, all the bad, and it's a little bit of a lull. And now after last night, I'm reliving it again. And I knew, I mean, I remember from Hannah season and the actually it was kind of crazy to do it, have a little break and then relive it. And this whole season obviously it's a lot bigger for me specifically. And um, it's a beautiful season. It's a tough season, and I know that it's gonna be there's me a lot of highs, but I know it's gonna be a lot of loads and I don't have to re experience and um, yeah, it's a very unique, surreal experience. Well it's a spoiler free ending. Supposedly, you did say on your Instagram yesterday, where's the quote, I'm thankful for the most amazing opportunity to find my girl. And he's smiling, guys, and he's just lit up a little bit. Oh yeah, Okay, so I'm gonna run with it a little bit. And I'm thinking that even though, like you may have not been able to make a final decision on that finale, it still ended up being a happy ending for you. Yeah. I I can say I'm happy, and I can say that, but is it an ending. I don't know. I want to say it's it's funny how everyone like reads into every little word. And I'm not gonna lie because I'm in this position. I don't know if you did this, Ben, It's just maybe I'm kind of weird. Since i have to be in secret about it, I'm kind of having fune then maybe throwing people off, you're a little bit. They're a little bit. They're the saying things that you know, just to throw them off. Just have fun with it because you know this, I'll never be in this kind of situation ever again. So um, it's cool. Yeah, it's this is a funny time because you have all this that you know, you're one of a few people that do know. Now you're doing press outlets. Everybody's trying to get something out of you. They're treating you almost like an object. They're just like drilling you questions, and you do have fun with it. It is fine. I mean, I guess until like one day you just snap and you're like, this is ridiculous, Like can we not just let this thing play out? Because I'm tired of like always being on guard in public. I need buddy that I talked. I know, I hate now like to go to like you gotta tune in and find out. Like I literally find myself saying that every single day to everyone. And I mean, I know everyone's curious and they're excited, and I appreciate that, but I know what you mean. But I'm trying to have as so much fun with it as I can. Before we talk about Hannah, I have to say I've been thinking that you look like that, Like I feel like you look like a lighter colored Ben. I've heard that before, okay, and then like you guys have similar voices, but now that I'm actually next to you in person, I'm thinking that you are the actual child of Ben Against and Nick File. It's actually weird. It's so weird. It's so crazy because honestly, Ben, I told you, I'm such a huge fan of Ben. I remember his season, like that guy did it right, and I just you know, I think she's the film all the guys. You know, you certainly feel the most reminiscent of Ben watching last night's episode than anyone we've seen since little a little corny trying her hardest to be like semi cool. It works right, Okay, Now for Handah questions, you said that when Hannah came out of the limo that you didn't want to stop looking at her, and like, I feel like your heart probably sunk. It was that huge, and I think you probably got a little excited that she was there to join the house. Yeah. I so when that when that door, that door first opened, At first I didn't realize it was actually hurt. I just saw this beautiful girl, and then as she kind of stepped out, John dropped, I realized that's Hannah, and just I mean all the motions just hit me at once, obviously really excited, really nervous, just not knowing why she's there, and a little bit of me definitely kind of I really loved the gesture and her giving me back the wings, but a little bit of me did. It was curious if she was gonna like ask to come in, you know, coming in the mansion. I'm not gonna lie in that moment um. You know, she didn't, and she left, and you guys saw what happened later on with that group day in that conversation, and that was that was pretty deep for sure. So that must have just thrown you off. Like you're excited about meeting new women, but then you're reminded of all the feelings that you have her hand, and then when you walked into the room where you just kind of like, I hope somebody here can compare in my heart absolutely absolutely remember, Yeah, the first kind of toasts I gate with all the women after all the entrances, and I needed obviously address why she was there, and I did, and all the women didn't. They were really understanding, which was awesome because they could have gone off on me, you know the first night, and um, you know, they all knew how much you know, she means to me. And I remember telling him like it just it made me even more hopeful that this was going to work because it kind of brought back some feelings of what I was feeling with her on that season, and I'm like, this is gonna work. I have all the hope in the world. I'm going to find my girl that she's in this room right now, And um, I really just I really appreciated that gesture by Hannah. So you were in on it though. A couple of days later, when she was one of the like leaders of the date, Um, what made you think, like, I'm cool to have her make another appearance. Maybe it wasn't the best best I remember the date card said, I hope this isn't awkward. Was awkward, but I, um, it was fun. We're everyone knows about our passes than secrets. Were kind of owning it, and it was really supposed to be like a fun date. It was gonna be awkward for sure, and uncomfortable kind of getting the girls out of the comfort zone and and me as well, And um, what ended up happening like that? The date just not happening. That wasn't planned. Obviously, we were supposed to to go forward with it, and that conversation kind of took over and we had to with it, and it was a very honest conversation that for sure had happened in that moment, and you know it is what it is. I felt like when Hannah was up telling her sex story on the stage, she was come across a little bit of a little cocky. She was like exerting some dominance. I think she was kind of like, ladies, this is my man, this is what happened between us, and you won't be able to compare. I think there was a lot of jealousy coming out. Yeah, and I get it. I totally get it, and part of me felt bad about it, kind of putting the woman through that. Again, I didn't know that was going to be the date. So maybe if I did, maybe I would have, I thought twice. But um, so you didn't know that was gonna be the topic of the date. I had no idea what the date was. All I knew that Hannah was hosting it. I had no idea what we were doing. And then yeah, I didn't tell the girls obviously that Hannah was hosting it until I saw her. But that's the only part that I knew. Let's talk about the date in general. Um, just like sex stories, do you feel like that's like something that's okay to do on the first date with women, Like, it's a thing I took my for is one on ones my parents about renewal. So I was like, just like going out of the gates fast. Um, you know again. Yeah, it obviously is a theme of you know, our the last season with Hannah. The last couple of seasons, sex has been a big thing. It is, Um, I for one, listen, I people don't believe it, but I am very usually private about my intimate life. It's kind of gotten blown up. I understand. I'm just owning it. Good thing is I'm comfortable talking about it. And I know there was a big theme of Hannah talking about women empowerment with sex and not letting it, you know, be something that they can't talk about or feel ashamed about it. So I think that was the what she was trying to get through to them. But do you mind if I go with a couple more questions before I know I'm loving this. Man was laughing over here. I like the comment that Pete just made he typically private with his private life, and I was like, there's no shot. I know nobody believes that, but I swear it to you, and you can look. I never said anything about the woman. I was never me. No, you know you never did. Um, okay, So what I did love was that Hannah was what we oh Hannah to be. She didn't change at all when you saw her backstage, and she was like not going to hold back what she was thinking, what her heart was telling her. And I think you were frustrated that she waited till that moment to tell you about all these lingering feelings and frustrations that she had. What were you thinking, I need to I mean, we know what you were thinking. You were thinking. You're asking me to be like third place again. You've already like tried it with Jed and that didn't work out. Then you already asked Tyler and that didn't work out, and so now here you are placing me third again. I don't know if like I was, that was how the conversation started. It was more, you know, I saw she was emotional and we went in and we talked, and um, you know she I was just trying to pick her mind because I had genuine questions that I had wondered about for a long time, specifically going back to Afar and if anything was ever going to possibly happen with us and so it was kind of more me asking her the question. I don't think it was. It wasn't necessarily her like part of me, oh, you're in my third place, And it wasn't like that. Um. I just wanted to get some answers to stuff that I want to get answers to and try to get that closure. And in that moment, I remember kind of bad. I'm like, is this appropriate to be talking to her about this with? You know, I have the rest of these girls outside waiting for me to come back for this group date, and I just came to the realization Listen, I it was so early on, and that it was a couple of days from when I met them. I didn't really have any real feelings or emotions with any of those women yet I knew they were amazing, but I had feelings for Hannah, and those all resurfaced, and so I was treated myself and I told the girls that from the very first night I would do that the entire entire time, and I didn't. I couldn't have predicted it like that coming off. But yeah, I don't think it was ever handed trying to put me like in a third place thing. It was more me kind of questioning her. Do you think it was coming from a place of jealousy fomo for her, or do you think it was coming from like, oh, crap, I really miss out on this opportunity and I I need to get it off my chest. A mix with like her explaining everything happened, like yeah, why she was coming back, now, why she was telling you this? Now? Yeah, listen, we're all human. We you know, if you want to call mistakes or whatnot. I mean, we learned from him and you go through these experiences, and no one's perfect. She preached that from the very beginning of her season. I remember the first thing, and that's one thing I took with me kind of into my first speech to kind of set the tone of my my season with the girls, like we're not perfect, m raw and be vulnerable. And she was displaying that again like she is always done and something I love about her, and um, you know again it was an honest talk that had happened. Those were all real feelings. And you guys, I'll see what happens next week. You talk about you know, I mean, I've just been talking about how Hannah comes and tells you this. Now, what if she had come and told you that a couple of weeks prior, what would you what would you have said? Would you have dropped out of the Bachelor root? Ben's laughing. You're gonna think I'm crazy for that when you hear what I'm about to say. Um, oh, he would have? I told you? I told her that. I'll be straight up, I don't have no reason I had anything I told Hannah, and whether it's shown or not in that moment that Ah, if if we would have had that conversation earlier before obviously I decided to do this, I probably wouldn't be the Bachelor. Wow. So that must have frustrated her even more and probably made her want to stay in that house even more. But we know that she doesn't stay in the house because she goes on twin Dancing with the Stars. Ben, do you have any questions to go? I could keep going here. I have so many questions, but any more questions about Hannah because I'm like, I'm gonna dick I can. I gotta dig that doesn't believe me that. Here's the thing. Can of course, here's my honest feedback, And I could be wrong you. I've heard um from the team at the Bachelor that you are a tremendous fellow, um, and I've got to talk to you quite a bit, and I know that to be true. I think it would be so hard to be prepping my life to become the Bachelor, to be out there in public as the next Bachelor, to know that a relationship just this is me talking. I'm not you agree or disagree to know that this relationship just ended. Somebody told me that they didn't want to be with me, meaning you and Hannah. They call you once you're already announced the Bachelor, and you would say, yeah, you know what, I'm gonna quit this thing with a whole new opportunity and tons of new women to meet, to go back to somebody that's just dumped me. I think that would be really hard to process. Yeah, that's totally fair, and I'm not saying it was the smart decision if I would have done that, but I'm just I'm deciding to be a percent transparent with you guys and honest, and that's speaking from my heart. In that moment, I remember all that stuff and I was processing then that's where my mind was that so here, just to close this thought, it means a lot that you say this, Pete, because the last night, as I'm watching, to be honest, I'm watching and going, ah, this is kind of just like in the moment, right, he's trying not to hurt her feelings. Um, he's trying to fill conversation with saying what if? What if? What if? And I'm like, I don't I get it as a as a man, or somebody doesn't love controversy or confrontation, Like this would be what I would do, Like you ask a bunch of questions and you say the what ifs of everything until it ends and then you both move onto your separate ways. But to know that I'm sitting there last night and seeing you actually saying, hey, I really care about you or I cared about you like this is hard for me to see you sitting here crying. It makes me go. While that moment was so much more real than what I assumed. Oh I assumed it was so real. Yeah, that was That was an extremely real moment for me, and no one saw it coming. I didnt see it coming, Um, but I was really thankful that I did have the opportunity to have that conversation with hand in that moment because we definitely needed that. I could kind of tell it was so real because I saw her like panicky with the producers and the little bit that we got to see that fourth wall broken, and I knew that like it. It was probably something she was like, I don't want to do this, I don't want to do this, but nless, she just couldn't hold it back, and it was just like, I'm just gonna be here and he's gonna find me and it's gonna be really really awkward, but I have to get this off my chest. Actually, I'm giving you one minute in thirty seconds to continue to drill this poor fellow before I started talking about because I have to. I have two really big questions, Um, if you loved her that much that you would have denied the bachelor role, why didn't you reach out to her like she mentioned? Because I I truly wanted it to be a very authentic conversation when we met a far and when we saw each other and being again complete eyes, I was told not to, so I didn't. I was told not to reach out, like to talk to them, and um, talk to Hannah until until then, and you know I was told you know by producer too, Like there's a reason, like you want that to be authentic and that's a big moment. So, uh, that's the reason I didn't do it. She kept saying that it was going to be between you and Jed, but then it wasn't. What in the world that threw me off? Yeah, so what what? What did you interpret that as? I if she said that, I don't remember ever seeing that to me, that it was me and Jed. I never ever recall that that she kept picturing you and Jed, but then it just wasn't that. Yeah, and she, I guess almost like kind of swears that she did. Maybe she I don't know, I don't remember that. Um, that didn't necessarily feel good. I didn't like enjoy it. That didn't make me feel better. I guess hearing that, But it's crazy. There's a mess. It was uh real. And I would say, like, now that you have said that you didn't reach out to her because you weren't supposed to, which is true. Um, I would say that it wasn't in her It was her right to reach out to you, Like if she wanted to go out with you, she should have reached out to you because she was the one that dumped you, you know what I mean? Absolutely, yeah, just like the way that she asked Tyler out. Was your friendship with Tyler in any way a reason that you didn't go near Hannah after a f r uh? No, The main reason was just that, I remember. So I saw her that that the day that I was on the finale, and then I went to New York that night and I watched We had talked a little bit about possibly, you know, catching up and meeting up again, and and then she asked Tyler out the next night. And then I was like, Okay, I'm done because you had two separate nights of a far last week. Yes, And so once I saw that, then I just kind of gave up on the on the hand, on pursuing hand, I was like, Okay, well they're obviously going at it now, so um giving it a shot. So that was kind of it for me. And get it all right, Benjamin, Oh, these are my favorite days. I'm telling you. Actually get so excited. There's so much going through that that girl's mind right now about this season, Peter. You just she's going to sleep so much easier night because of you, And I just have to say that I have to ask Kelly questions when you're done, but you go first, All right, Actual, I'll give you your time. But before I do, uh, Peter, I want to sit down for a second and just chat with you a little bit. I want to tell you how, um, what I think of you so far. UM. Like that matters to anybody, but it does to our listeners. They listen because they want to know what I think. UM. I've really enjoyed getting to know you. UM. We've talked a few times. Your mind going into this and kind of your attitude going into this was something that I admired and was learning from. And UM, I think what I saw last night was that same guy that we you know, before we talked and you started your season, the same guy stood up there And I think that that for me is refreshing, um, and it's exciting. So that's how I want to start this. And then I also want to say, uh that one of the things that I take, uh that really breaks me is is when I when people get off this season and I hear that they weren't nice to the staff or to the team that works on the show. Because there's you know, two d plus people that this is their full time job, so they feed their families and it every year we bring up, um things that have happened during the show, and how hard that must have been for the employees involved, the people that that do this for a living. And I heard nothing but amazing compliments about you and how you treated people. Why why was that something that you made um important in your experience and it wasn't just about you that it was about the others. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think for me, it just it comes down to just gratitude and I felt like the most grateful person and are just the luckiest person in the entire world. Um that everybody involved, and you guys know the huge team that's involved with everything just that people never see with all you know, prepping the next day and the next week in advance and getting everything set up. There's so much work that goes into it. And it's literally all for me to hopefully find my person and that just I I don't understand, like what I did to be able to have this amazing opportunity and have the time of my life doing and just the most fun dates ever. Like it's freaking awesome, man, And how could you not just be so thankful for everyone that and I could tell it to you like I got. I had an amazing relationship with a lot of people you know, on on the crew, and it's just it so great that they actually, like I could just see how much they truly wanted me to find what I was after and they were so invested. And I saw that from night one until the very end. There were so many tears and laughter and just it literally family, and I just I'm so lucky. Where did that great gratefulness lead you then? So? I mean obviously at night uh, in the first episode, we saw you involve your family, um, and it we saw you be really appreciate to the women. We obviously now know behind the scenes you were great to the staff. How did your gratefulness going into it, and your consistent gratefulness throughout where? How did that guide you and lead you? And what kind of things stood out because you were so grateful? I think, Um, you know, I like the entire journey. I I knew what I wanted to happen in the end. And I'm a very obviously optimistic, positive person. I don't think anyone there's no doubt about that. Um. But something that I just always focused on because there was a lot of tough times, you know, being the badge, like in the same time the hardest times in my life. But I know that I always go back to it's impossible to feel two things at once, and if you always have that feeling of gratefulness and gratitude, you can't feeling negative feeling. And through all those hard tough moments, or even when I was like messing up and I felt horrible that I was letting the girls down and I wasn't doing the best job that maybe I could have done, I just tried to bring in ground and center myself back to just being grateful for this opportunity, not knowing I didn't need to be perfect, and just grateful that they were there and they were giving me a chance, and um it literally just like that's how I lived my life, and even beyond the batchelor like that just that's me, and um, you know it's worked for me up to this point and keep saying it broken record, but it's grateful for this entire journey. I heard that when you've got your Harry Potter's car, you know, you're like gushing blood and you're apologizing to the crew for like delaying the day because I wasn't feeling any pain at that point. I had so many endorphins going like they adrenaline. Have felt no pain, so I'm thinking, like, shoot, it's done, Like it's over, Like it's I don't know if we're going to continue this. I literally my sporehead was split like this day like three. It was insane. It was a murder scene. It was crazy, so much blood um. But luckily, you know, we got to do the date the next day, didn't flown it down the I remember this moment for me, P and I want to see if you had one like it, And again, don't I'm not asking you to spoil anything. I don't. I don't really care about that. I want to watch it along with you. But now people know how my season kind of went through. And then I had a really tough decision at the end, and I was having really strong feelings for two women, and I knew I was going to have to break up with one of them. And then I was also at this point a little peeved at the whole experience because I was tired and we had been traveling, and I knew this was leading up to the probably the biggest moment in the life and also one of the saddest moments of my life. And I was just like being the victim. I had a victim mentality. And I remember this moment. I was sitting on the edge of my bed and I don't know if you're a man of faith, but I was sitting on the edge of my bed and I'm looking out in Jamaica at the ocean um from this insane house. And then I look out and there's this team to the right of me in the in like the the grass building the stage for what was going to be the proposal. And then I looked to the left of me and there was my team of Bachelor producers sitting down below me, having food together. And I just started praying this like overwhelming prayer of like I can't believe I get to do this, Like I cannot believe that this is my story, that for the rest of my life, this will be a piece of what I talk about, and that I get to stand here in this moment as a dude who was not even a year ago working in an office and today like people care about me in ways that I've never felt before and I just started praying this like prayer and it changed my perspective from that moment on until today on what I viewed this thing is. It's beautiful. As you had that moment, I mean I had that from the very first night. I have a very similar moment. I remember standing there outside with the first limo coming up and you look to the left and we can't see, you know, from behind the scenes, but all the crew there and all the cameras and everyone just there for me to get this going, and just throughout the entire entire journey, like every day, I mean up to the very end, and you know, I don't want to give away like the end, but like there's you know, obviously some big moments there and a lot of work is put into it um for me and how life changing that is and how beautiful a moment, and I'll never forget it. And uh, I know what you mean. Man, It's like it's just it's crazy, it's very surreal, and it's just knowing that there's so many people that truly are invested in you and care about you finding what you're after. It's I get as I when I'm on airplanes and I'm saying by the passengers and they come up to me like we hope you find what you're looking for and just like like just so supportive, like that means so much and people don't really realize how much that means to me, and um, it's this is the support has been unreal. I know we don't have a lot of time left with you, Pete. I just want to go through a few things with you and get some get some info from it. Uh, A couple of things fears before the show um started and now fears now as you walk to this world as the Bachelor. The biggest one for going into it was was for sure just somehow having someone in some type of way kind of fool me and have me just fault for them, um, you know, without possibly letting me see the full the full side of them or um some type of issue in that regard, because I knew I was, and I asked all the women that that first night, I said, you know, please show me the respect that I'm going to show everyone of you. And you know, I know I'm not naive. I get what this amazing franchise and opportunity can do for you outside of this, but please, because I'm taking this so seriously. Please show me the respect back of you know, only being here as much as you can just to see if there's something with me, and if it's not, like please please don't stay. And that was the biggest fear that maybe they wouldn't take me seriously in that regard. Um after the show, now, um, you know it's tough. This is weird now being in this situation of you know, you got the secret that you're keeping and no one really knows it, and um, I don't know, maybe maybe I like I put too much pressure on myself. I remember going and I was asked, you know, you have Colton with the fence and and and Han out with the windmill and all this stuff, and what do you want to be remembered for? And I remember, like, I don't want to be remember for any of that stuff. I just wanted to truly get because I love this show so much and what it stands where I wanted to give everyone that opportunity to follow a love story and kind of live like curiously through it. And I guess my biggest series, you know, lighting people down in some way, I don't know, Well that's what Everybody wants from the show is just a really good love story at the end of it, and I hope you got it. But did you also hook up with Kelly before the show? I promise you. I didn't, and I was very I didn't even get her phone number. I was like, listening, kiss no kiss you guys, how to dance you? How too? We had a great time. We met. We met in the lobby. We went in, we got because I was leaving, I'm like, we want to get a drink, So we went to get a drink and then we went out. We went back. It was it was a close so when we did some dancing outside, her friends had like a boom box. We started dancing. We did a little swing dancing that was really fun. And then the night was over. We're gonna head out and my friends are going to Denny's. Remember, and um, I was like, all right, well, I guess you know, we'll see what happens. I didn't get her number. I was like, if it's meant to be, it'll be serendipity exactly. I remember. I just like, and that was the smartest move you've ever made existed? I did. It was hard because like there was a connection that I'm not gonna lie. It's palpable. We can feel it. And yeah, I remember watching her. She left, then she turned, I gave her hug, she walked away with her friend in the elevator. I was like, that could have been the last time I ever saw that girl. Something amazing could have happened with that girl if I would have pursued it. There, we'll see what happens. Oh my god, that's amazing. Yeah, I know she has a target on our back right now, but I really like her. And my last fun question is when that What was the last time you flew a plane commercially? Um, like a week and half ago. Wait, Bill Bachelor is actually out there still flying plans? Hell yeah, money. Actually, I know this job. That is awesome. I went back to work like like a week after we finished film and but that's like my happy place. People have to understanding I love what I do, and I know it's obvious, but I really do. That's so cool. All right, Well, thank you so much. I have one really interesting thing, and you just talk through with you before we let you go. It's gonna take two minutes, so I know your producers over there are probably going, we gotta go, we gotta go. Well, so night one, you you kissed. I mean, i'd say a lot of people, here's what happened during my season. Chris sol did the same thing. So I went to the night one in the big contint fracy that I wanted that everybody asked me going in The Bachelor from all the networks was how many girls are you gonna kiss on night one? So I went into it going, I'm gonna be really cautious of this, like super cautious to not kiss anybody on night one. You did the opposite. But here's the thing, and we've talked about on this show before about you and I think you're good dude, I think you you respect people. Well, I don't think any of those things. I'm not saying that here. But if like, for whatever reason it is, you can make out and have sex in a wind mill and everybody goes, oh sweet Peter, I like, I don't know, man, I honestly, I guess because I never brought it up. I don't know she did it. Yeah, so she kind of set me up. But that was still going, oh sweet, Peter, I'm going this dude, I'm a passionate man. No, but it's funny. I actually I remember going to the first night I promised you I was gonna I had that same approach and then it was and I loved it. Savannah was very bold. She came up with with the blindfold and got it going and kind of like broke the ice there, and I was like, all right, let's go. How do you feel about that? You were okay with that? I was, Yeah, I thought it was bold. It was cool as different and um, and then when I was dealing with anyone else at night, like that's why I wasn't afraid to go and for a kiss. Yeah, you're like, hey, somebody already started me actually before we let you loose again, because I know. Yeah. Hey, uh, Peter, great job all Night one. Congratulations on finishing the season. Uh, we'll be excited to watch along with you again. The ratings were as big as ever, and a lot of that becomes because people are rooting for you, and here at the almost from his podcast, we're rooting for you as well. Don't let this be the last time, though you come on and chat with us. I would love to have to have you back. You're so you're such a fun interview. Okay, Pilot Pete just walked out the door. Hey, we are now hooked. This season will be unlike any other, so make sure you come to San Francisco and here even more of our thoughts to hang out with us to enjoy an evening. We'll be in San Francisco January eleven. Doors open at seven pm. To get start at thirty five dollars. To get tickets, go to APE Concerts dot com and ticketmaster dot com. It's mysel fin Ashley I Connetti, Yes, Ashley, I canntti with special guests and performances, doing a lie almost famous podcast from the Palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco, California, January eleven, and we hope to see you there. Can I just say that I am even more excited for the season after we've talked to Peter, gotten to know him and his sweetness even more, and some of the answers that he gave make me even more curious about how this Hannah thing is going to turn out. I would say it is going to be something interesting, and I agree. Talking to Peter makes me go, hey, I'm rooting for the guy. I'm rooting for these women. I think they're great. Um, but it's one of those seasons that I feel like it might be the first time in a long time we've had moments for me. At the end of this on a proposal, I maybe tear eyed. I don't know it could happen, who knows, But anyways, Ashley, I know that we'll have a great time in San Francisco. With that, I've been been, I've been Ashley by Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.