Zab Judah sits down with Andre Ward for a two-part conversation on a career that started at six years old and didn’t end until he was 41. The Brownsville-born six-time world champion takes Dre all the way back to the beginning: a mother and father who met in karate school, a house where you fought your own brothers for food and for who got the bike, the Golden Gloves chain snatched off his neck on the train, and the night his father woke him up in the middle of the night just to put him in front of Mike Tyson.

Part 1 is the climb and the first collapse. Duva pulled him out of the Golden Gloves at sixteen and put him on a plane to spar Pernell Whitaker, who didn’t know who he was for three days. At eighteen he was the co-main event on HBO. At fifteen and zero he took the Micky Ward fight everybody told him to turn down, and ended up in the corner telling his own father he thought his ribs were broken. Then Kostya Tszyu: undefeated, headlining Vegas for the first time, and it was over in two rounds. Zab tells all of it, the stool, the referee, the year they took from him, and why he still says he never got to go out on his shield.

Plus the recruitment that changed his career: Don King walking into Justin’s in New York with a bag of cash in the limo, the plane tickets to Florida that somehow didn’t exist for his two lawyers, the Statue of Liberty in the backyard, and the $250,000 in a Gucci bag and the green convertible Bentley he drove home himself because he wasn’t about to let anybody ship it.

0:00 – Welcome Zab Judah to The Art of Ward
3:26 – Combat Family Roots & Growing Up with 14 Siblings
6:01 – Brooklyn Amateur Days & High School Survival
9:52 – Life in the Brownsville Projects
11:09 – Meeting Mike Tyson at Age 8
13:07 – Tyson’s Highs, Lows, and Wisdom
21:26 – AD BREAK
22:51 – Golden Gloves Champion & NYC vs. Upstate Mentality
26:26 – 1996 Olympic Trials & Linking Up with Floyd Mayweather
29:12 – Turning Pro & Sparring with Pernell Whitaker
33:24 – Tyson Undercards & the Mickey Ward War
36:55 – First Title Win & Living Large as Champ
39:44 – The Kostya Tszyu Fight & Aftermath
44:07 – Throwing the Chair & Dealing with the Fallout
52:39 – Second World Title & First Deal with Don King
55:34 – Signing with Don King in Florida (the Bentley Bonus)
1:07:55 – The Corey Spinks Fights & Becoming Undisputed Champ in St. Louis
1:13:37 – Chaos in the Corner (Part 1 Ends)

Zab Judah sits down with Andre Ward for a two-part conversation on a career that started at six years old and didn&rsquo;t end until he was 41. The Brownsville-born six-time world champion takes Dre all the way back to the beginning: a mother and father who met in karate school, a house where you fought your own brothers for food and for who got the bike, the Golden Gloves chain snatched off his neck on the train, and the night his father woke him up in the middle of the night just to put him in front of Mike Tyson. Part 1 is the climb and the first collapse. Duva pulled him out of the Golden Gloves at sixteen and put him on a plane to spar Pernell Whitaker, who didn&rsquo;t know who he was for three days. At eighteen he was the co-main event on HBO. At fifteen and zero he took the Micky Ward fight everybody told him to turn down, and ended up in the corner telling his own father he thought his ribs were broken. Then Kostya Tszyu: undefeated, headlining Vegas for the first time, and it was over in two rounds. Zab tells all of it, the stool, the referee, the year they took from him, and why he still says he never got to go out on his shield. Plus the recruitment that changed his career: Don King walking into Justin&rsquo;s in New York with a bag of cash in the limo, the plane tickets to Florida that somehow didn&rsquo;t exist for his two lawyers, the Statue of Liberty in the backyard, and the $250,000 in a Gucci bag and the green convertible Bentley he drove home himself because he wasn&rsquo;t about to let anybody ship it.
0:00 &ndash; Welcome Zab Judah to The Art of Ward 3:26 &ndash; Combat Family Roots &amp; Growing Up with 14 Siblings 6:01 &ndash; Brooklyn Amateur Days &amp; High School Survival 9:52 &ndash; Life in the Brownsville Projects 11:09 &ndash; Meeting Mike Tyson at Age 8 13:07 &ndash; Tyson&rsquo;s Highs, Lows, and Wisdom 21:26 &ndash; AD BREAK 22:51 &ndash; Golden Gloves Champion &amp; NYC vs. Upstate Mentality 26:26 &ndash; 1996 Olympic Trials &amp; Linking Up with Floyd Mayweather 29:12 &ndash; Turning Pro &amp; Sparring with Pernell Whitaker 33:24 &ndash; Tyson Undercards &amp; the Mickey Ward War 36:55 &ndash; First Title Win &amp; Living Large as Champ 39:44 &ndash; The Kostya Tszyu Fight &amp; Aftermath 44:07 &ndash; Throwing the Chair &amp; Dealing with the Fallout 52:39 &ndash; Second World Title &amp; First Deal with Don King 55:34 &ndash; Signing with Don King in Florida (the Bentley Bonus) 1:07:55 &ndash; The Corey Spinks Fights &amp; Becoming Undisputed Champ in St. Louis 1:13:37 &ndash; Chaos in the Corner (Part 1 Ends)

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Zab Judah: Don King’s $250K Gucci Bag, Meeting Mike Tyson at 8 & The Kostya Tszyu Blow Up

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