You'd be hard-pressed to find someone with more passion for tennis than Paul McNamee, a Davis Cup and Wimbledon champion who later became Australian Open tournament director. Atypically for an Australian, McNamee's favourite surface is clay — a love-affair he documents in his book Welcome to the Dance. Matt and Viv sit down with McNamee to discuss the nation's relationship with clay, his favourite clay-courts around the world, and who he most loves watching compete on the surface today.

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You'd be hard-pressed to find someone with more passion for tennis than Paul McNamee, a Davis Cup and Wimbledon champion who later became Australian Open tournament director. Atypically for an Australian, McNamee's favourite surface is clay — a love-affair he documents in his book Welcome to the Dance. Matt and Viv sit down with McNamee to discuss the nation's relationship with clay, his favourite clay-courts around the world, and who he most loves watching compete on the surface today. <a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fausopen.com%2Flisten&amp;data=05%7C01%7CJHoevenaars%40Tennis.com.au%7C39d41d646c2d44fd299008dadcd3bdc3%7C61aa9c8da7734a7c84701dd8062e404a%7C0%7C0%7C638065099215598899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Pv9ViyqGlAcwDPKaeTzYZCwHLUzSRqpu%2FU2pwaedzRQ%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-outlook-id="28af2be3-53f0-4f25-a13f-d4e0fb690f3a">AusOpen.com</a> <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1300-the-ao-show-106540123/" data-outlook-id="885fa367-cdf4-49a4-9135-5000618d2cc9">iHeart</a> <a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fau%2Fpodcast%2Fthe-ao-show%2Fid1447078646&amp;data=05%7C01%7CJHoevenaars%40Tennis.com.au%7C39d41d646c2d44fd299008dadcd3bdc3%7C61aa9c8da7734a7c84701dd8062e404a%7C0%7C0%7C638065099215598899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Hibqry6n4Q%2FepVo1I9kTOYduhyOnk7yK%2BhC8SDzyEqM%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-outlook-id="6cf4a560-de35-4792-80a4-0e89490037fd">Apple Podcasts</a> <a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.google.com%2Ffeed%2FaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMDM3YTcyMTQtYWEwNC00ODdmLTliMDAtYTk3NTAxN2U3ZTVkLzMyZjc0OGU1LTJlNzYtNDQ3OC1hY2FiLWE5YjMwMDIwYjM2ZS85NjgyMDUwMi05Zjk2LTQ3OTctOTc5Zi1hOWIzMDAyMjY5ODgvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M%3Fhl%3Den-AU&amp;data=05%7C01%7CJHoevenaars%40Tennis.com.au%7C39d41d646c2d44fd299008dadcd3bdc3%7C61aa9c8da7734a7c84701dd8062e404a%7C0%7C0%7C638065099215598899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=YwTpu4jLCvbB1PeeJGpysEsQ%2Fck68%2FE8gmybvw64Fps%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-outlook-id="0e6b856a-d36d-4819-b456-2155852280ad">Google Podcasts</a> <a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F5iZNWXsa7TQNs88F0PAmB1%3Fsi%3D720671f241a14afe&amp;data=05%7C01%7CJHoevenaars%40Tennis.com.au%7C39d41d646c2d44fd299008dadcd3bdc3%7C61aa9c8da7734a7c84701dd8062e404a%7C0%7C0%7C638065099215598899%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=xWAr%2BGz5LJ0OigwN9Irgx13SdZ4iMSGRCvT9clKZDVo%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-outlook-id="f46df571-f7d1-40d2-b159-45b4e62f6abf">Spotify</a> 
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The Sit-Down with Paul McNamee

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