Wrap up: Theos and Tim discuss the interview

If you can work out where the world's leading AI researchers are choosing to work then you will have a looking glass in to the future of both the technology and the balance of power. This was the thesis that led Tom Hurd—former UK Homeland Security Advisor - to found Zeki, which tracks the world's top AI talent. He tells us about his pivot from tracking terrorists and COVID outbreaks to tracking the world’s top AI minds. 

Tom explains why talent is the ultimate disruptor in the AI race, and that where talent moves today, and which talent, can be a predictor of things to come. 

He charts seismic shifts as the U.S. becomes a net exporter of AI talent, the potential impact of India retaining its brightest graduates, and how nations are aggressively competing for brainpower. We dive into Google DeepMind's dominance of elite LLM talent - whilst Nvidia and Anthropic are playing a different game. He explains why Europe needs product-savvy talent to fuel its AI research labs and startups, and how Zeki uses “Moneyball for deep tech” to uncover hidden innovators. 

Tune in to the debut episode of The Age of Intelligence, with hosts Theos and Tim, to discover how mastering talent strategy is the secret weapon in investing in and building tomorrow’s AI.

For further reading: Zeki’s 2025 State of AI Talent Report at zekidata.com.

If you can work out where the world's leading AI researchers are choosing to work then you will have a looking glass in to the future of both the technology and the balance of power. This was the thesis that led Tom Hurd&mdash;former UK Homeland Security Advisor - to found Zeki, which tracks the world's top AI talent. He tells us about his pivot from tracking terrorists and COVID outbreaks to tracking the world&rsquo;s top AI minds.&nbsp;
Tom explains why talent is the ultimate disruptor in the AI race, and that where talent moves today, and which talent, can be a predictor of things to come.&nbsp;
He charts seismic shifts as the U.S. becomes a net exporter of AI talent, the potential impact of India retaining its brightest graduates, and how nations are aggressively competing for brainpower. We dive into Google DeepMind's dominance of elite LLM talent - whilst Nvidia and Anthropic are playing a different game. He explains why Europe needs product-savvy talent to fuel its AI research labs and startups, and how Zeki uses &ldquo;Moneyball for deep tech&rdquo; to uncover hidden innovators.&nbsp;
Tune in to the debut episode of The Age of Intelligence, with hosts Theos and Tim, to discover how mastering talent strategy is the secret weapon in investing in and building tomorrow&rsquo;s AI.
For further reading: Zeki&rsquo;s 2025 State of AI Talent Report at <a href="https://zekudata.com">zekidata.com</a>.

AI changes everything it touches. For better and for worse. And AI is increasingly touching everything. The Age of Intelligence, recorded from INSEAD, brings together the voices of this new era.

AI is rebalancing the world. Power is shifting — among nations, corporations, and individuals — as trillions in value are created and redistributed. AI is increasingly central to economic and business strategy, geopolitical influence, and the shaping of culture, ideology, and values.

Listen to those leading the change—from academics exploring the boundaries, to entrepreneurs building the future, business leaders reshaping markets, policy-makers tackling the implications, and analysts marvelling at it.

Who will gain most in this unfolding era? What can executives, policymakers, parents, and citizens do to protect and shape their future? How will values and beliefs evolve as education and media are revolutionized? What does this mean for national security, business survival, personal agency – indeed what will it mean to be human?

Guiding you through this conversation are Theos and Tim. Theos Evgeniou is a leading AI academic at INSEAD, entrepreneur, and advisor. Tim Gordon, co-founder at Best Practice AI, is an entrepreneur, adviser and recovering political organiser. They have worked with some of the world’s most sophisticated companies, organisations and governments as they grapple with these questions.

Each episode features a thought-provoking conversation with a remarkable guest – followed by a rapid-fire, high-energy debrief.

We’ll reflect on what it might mean – for you, for your business, and for our world. Grounded in the realities but exploring the opportunities.

Whether you’re building, investing in, or simply trying to make sense of AI and what it may mean for you, this podcast is your backstage pass to the diverse people and ideas driving the most transformative force of our time.

Subscribe now or push the “like” button

AI changes everything it touches. For better and for worse. And AI is increasingly touching everything. The Age of Intelligence, recorded from INSEAD, brings together the voices of this new era.
AI is rebalancing the world. Power is shifting &mdash; among nations, corporations, and individuals &mdash; as trillions in value are created and redistributed. AI is increasingly central to economic and business strategy, geopolitical influence, and the shaping of culture, ideology, and values.
Listen to those leading the change&mdash;from academics exploring the boundaries, to entrepreneurs building the future, business leaders reshaping markets, policy-makers tackling the implications, and analysts marvelling at it.
Who will gain most in this unfolding era? What can executives, policymakers, parents, and citizens do to protect and shape their future? How will values and beliefs evolve as education and media are revolutionized? What does this mean for national security, business survival, personal agency &ndash; indeed what will it mean to be human?
Guiding you through this conversation are Theos and Tim. Theos Evgeniou is a leading AI academic at INSEAD, entrepreneur, and advisor. Tim Gordon, co-founder at Best Practice AI, is an entrepreneur, adviser and recovering political organiser. They have worked with some of the world&rsquo;s most sophisticated companies, organisations and governments as they grapple with these questions.
Each episode features a thought-provoking conversation with a remarkable guest &ndash; followed by a rapid-fire, high-energy debrief.
We&rsquo;ll reflect on what it might mean &ndash; for you, for your business, and for our world. Grounded in the realities but exploring the opportunities.
Whether you&rsquo;re building, investing in, or simply trying to make sense of AI and what it may mean for you, this podcast is your backstage pass to the diverse people and ideas driving the most transformative force of our time.
Subscribe now or push the &ldquo;like&rdquo; button

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