Robert Godden

St Mary's Cemetary

Musical Pilgrimage

Political commentator Robert Godden returns to examine how Trump's policies ripple through South Australian vineyards and shipyards, while introducing us to diverse local voters shaping our electoral landscape - from climate-conscious Ellie in Goodwood to disillusioned Mick in Morphett Vale.

Robert's record for calling elections correctly stands firm as he reveals which South Australian electorates might swing in the upcoming federal vote. Though Labor appears headed for a reduced majority, the real question is how our vote might influence America's orange-tinted decisions affecting our exports and defence agreements.

In the Musical Pilgrimage, Lizzie Hosking's soulful track "Can't Figure You Out" perfectly captures the electoral indecision many South Australians face heading into the May 3rd poll, while a Good Friday interview with Richard Pascoe uncovers the gruesome history buried at St. Mary's Anglican Church.

There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week.

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Running Sheet: From Trump to Two Wells - SA's Political Crossroads In AusVotes 2025

00:00:00 Intro

Introduction

00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

No South Australian Drink Of The Week, this week.

00:03:41 Robert Godden

Robert Godden, our regular political analyst who correctly called the 2018 South Australian election before Antony Green, joins us to examine the upcoming federal election through a South Australian lens. With the shadow of Donald Trump's presidency louring over international relations, the conversation begins with the "Trump factor" and its potential impacts on our state.

"We can look at what happened with China when they put tariffs on us," Robert explains when discussing Trump's trade war implications for South Australian exports like beef, wine, and seafood. "Remember Christmas before last when people were indulging in lobster who'd never had it before because it was so cheap?" He suggests diversification of markets is essential, noting how Australia pivoted successfully during the China tariff challenge.

The conversation takes a more serious turn when examining the AUKUS agreement, with Robert noting that America's treatment of Australia has drawn criticism even from US politicians like Democratic Senator Mark Warner. "He spent a good half hour listing all the reasons... anyone with brains and shame would've gone, 'He's right, let's help Australia out.' But Trump hasn't shown great quantities of either."

Robert's assessment of climate policy delivers perhaps the episode's most cutting insight: "The easiest way for the Liberals to have a chance at getting back in power would be to embrace the climate cause." He argues that the six Teal candidates in parliament are essentially "liberals with climate views," representing votes the Coalition has surrendered to independents.

When Steve asks whether anything Australia does could influence Trump's policies, Robert responds with characteristic frankness: "He doesn't understand international trade. I mean, look, he doesn't understand shoelaces."

The interview shifts to a fascinating examination of voter personas Robert has created, representing different South Australian demographics and their voting intentions. These include Ellie from Goodwood (a 29-year-old non-binary arts worker voting Green), Tyler from Lightsview (a 21-year-old apprentice electrician leaning Liberal), Andrew from Aldgate (a 45-year-old high school teacher supporting Rebecca Sharkie), Mick from Morphett Vale (a 53-year-old injured truck driver voting One Nation), and Jade from Christies Beach (a financially stretched childcare worker who remains undecided).

When discussing cost of living concerns, Robert delivers one of the episode's most provocative statements: "If Peter Dutton wants to win this election at all costs, all he has to do is chuck money at people. If he said to the electorate, 'If you vote for me, I'll give you $300 a week from now until the next election' – job done."

Robert heartily recommends using the ABC Vote Compass to help you see where you sit idealogically, and how that aligns to the parties.

01:04:04 St Mary's Anglican Church Cemetary

Steve shares a recording from his Good Friday conversation with Richard Pascoe on FiveAA, discussing the upcoming cemetery tour at St. Mary's Anglican Church on Saturday, May 17, 2025, from 10am to 2pm. The segment reveals fascinating South Australian history, including the burial sites of Richard Hamilton (father of South Australia's wine industry) and Benjamin Herschel Babbage (son of computing pioneer Charles Babbage).

The conversation takes a macabre turn as Steve describes university researchers' discoveries in the cemetery's pauper section, including bodies broken to fit into smaller coffins, teeth ravaged by untreated cavities, and even evidence of leprosy in early South Australia. "It just fires up gratitude for me of what we've actually been able to achieve," Steve reflects, noting how easily we forget the harsh realities our ancestors faced.

01:16:06 Musical Pilgrimage

In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature Can't Figure You Out by Lizzie Hosking.

Steve praises her "breathy and hearty voice" with its "clear, clean, strong" qualities that draw listeners in. The song's sultry jazz feel and title perfectly mirror the electoral indecision many South Australians feel approaching the May 3rd federal poll.

As Steve notes, "I chose it because frankly, I can't figure out who is worthy of my vote."

Political commentator Robert Godden returns to examine how Trump's policies ripple through South Australian vineyards and shipyards, while introducing us to diverse local voters shaping our electoral landscape - from climate-conscious Ellie in Goodwood to disillusioned Mick in Morphett Vale.
Robert's record for calling elections correctly stands firm as he reveals which South Australian electorates might swing in the upcoming federal vote. Though Labor appears headed for a reduced majority, the real question is how our vote might influence America's orange-tinted decisions affecting our exports and defence agreements.
In the Musical Pilgrimage, Lizzie Hosking's soulful track "Can't Figure You Out" perfectly captures the electoral indecision many South Australians face heading into the May 3rd poll, while a Good Friday interview with Richard Pascoe uncovers the gruesome history buried at St. Mary's Anglican Church.
There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week.
You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!
The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.
And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: <a href="mailto:podcast@theadelaideshow.com.au">podcast@theadelaideshow.com.au</a>
If you enjoy the show, please <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/another-boring-thursday-night/id696302138">leave us a 5-star review </a>in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - <a href="https://www.redbubble.com/people/theadelaideshow/shop?asc=u">The Adelaide Show Shop</a>. We'd greatly appreciate it.
And please talk about us and share our episodes on social media, it really helps build our community. Oh, and here's <a href="https://theadelaideshow.com.au/complete-list-adelaide-show-episodes/">our index of all episode in one concise page.</a>
Running Sheet: From Trump to Two Wells - SA's Political Crossroads In AusVotes 2025
00:00:00 Intro
Introduction
00:00:00&nbsp;SA Drink Of The Week
No South Australian Drink Of The Week, this week.
00:03:41 Robert Godden
Robert Godden, our regular political analyst who correctly called the 2018 South Australian election before Antony Green, joins us to examine the upcoming federal election through a South Australian lens. With the shadow of Donald Trump's presidency louring over international relations, the conversation begins with the "Trump factor" and its potential impacts on our state.
"We can look at what happened with China when they put tariffs on us," Robert explains when discussing Trump's trade war implications for South Australian exports like beef, wine, and seafood. "Remember Christmas before last when people were indulging in lobster who'd never had it before because it was so cheap?" He suggests diversification of markets is essential, noting how Australia pivoted successfully during the China tariff challenge.
The conversation takes a more serious turn when examining the AUKUS agreement, with Robert noting that America's treatment of Australia has drawn criticism even from US politicians like Democratic Senator Mark Warner. "He spent a good half hour listing all the reasons... anyone with brains and shame would've gone, 'He's right, let's help Australia out.' But Trump hasn't shown great quantities of either."
Robert's assessment of climate policy delivers perhaps the episode's most cutting insight: "The easiest way for the Liberals to have a chance at getting back in power would be to embrace the climate cause." He argues that the six Teal candidates in parliament are essentially "liberals with climate views," representing votes the Coalition has surrendered to independents.
When Steve asks whether anything Australia does could influence Trump's policies, Robert responds with characteristic frankness: "He doesn't understand international trade. I mean, look, he doesn't understand shoelaces."
The interview shifts to a fascinating examination of voter personas Robert has created, representing different South Australian demographics and their voting intentions. These include Ellie from Goodwood (a 29-year-old non-binary arts worker voting Green), Tyler from Lightsview (a 21-year-old apprentice electrician leaning Liberal), Andrew from Aldgate (a 45-year-old high school teacher supporting Rebecca Sharkie), Mick from Morphett Vale (a 53-year-old injured truck driver voting One Nation), and Jade from Christies Beach (a financially stretched childcare worker who remains undecided).
When discussing cost of living concerns, Robert delivers one of the episode's most provocative statements: "If Peter Dutton wants to win this election at all costs, all he has to do is chuck money at people. If he said to the electorate, 'If you vote for me, I'll give you $300 a week from now until the next election' &ndash; job done."
Robert heartily recommends using the <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/vote-compass">ABC Vote Compass</a> to help you see where you sit idealogically, and how that aligns to the parties.
01:04:04&nbsp;St Mary's Anglican Church Cemetary
Steve shares a recording from his Good Friday conversation with Richard Pascoe on FiveAA, discussing the upcoming cemetery tour at St. Mary's Anglican Church on Saturday, May 17, 2025, from 10am to 2pm. The segment reveals fascinating South Australian history, including the burial sites of Richard Hamilton (father of South Australia's wine industry) and Benjamin Herschel Babbage (son of computing pioneer Charles Babbage).
The conversation takes a macabre turn as Steve describes university researchers' discoveries in the cemetery's pauper section, including bodies broken to fit into smaller coffins, teeth ravaged by untreated cavities, and even evidence of leprosy in early South Australia. "It just fires up gratitude for me of what we've actually been able to achieve," Steve reflects, noting how easily we forget the harsh realities our ancestors faced.
01:16:06&nbsp;Musical Pilgrimage
In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature Can't Figure You Out by <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LizzieHoskingBand/">Lizzie Hosking</a>.
Steve praises her "breathy and hearty voice" with its "clear, clean, strong" qualities that draw listeners in. The song's sultry jazz feel and title perfectly mirror the electoral indecision many South Australians feel approaching the May 3rd federal poll.
As Steve notes, "I chose it because frankly, I can't figure out who is worthy of my vote."

A weekly podcast recorded in Adelaide that puts South Australian passion on centre stage with a featured guest who joins us each week as a co-presenter to share how they're pursuing their passions. We venture across topics as diverse as history, wine, food, art, music, relationships, critical thinking, health, news, interviews, chat and quizzes. 

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A podcast recorded in Adelaide that puts South Australian passion on centre stage with a featured guest who joins us each week as a co-presenter to share how they're pursuing their passions. We venture across topics as diverse as history, wine, ...

The Adelaide Show

A podcast recorded in Adelaide that puts South Australian passion on centre stage with a featured guest who joins us to share how they're pursuing their passions. We venture across topics as diverse as history, wine, food, art, music, relationships, critical thinking, health, and general news. Every single interview, every single show, unlocks insights into what drives people to be doing what they're doing and what keeps them striving. The Adelaide Show is produced by Steve Davis, and ends with an original song by a South Australian artist. Please subscribe to our In Crowd list; you get an email each Friday with an overview of that week's show. This podcast began life as Another Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide from episodes 1-79.

A podcast recorded in Adelaide that puts South Australian passion on centre stage with a featured guest who joins us to share how they're pursuing their passions. We venture across topics as diverse as history, wine, food, art, music, relationships, critical thinking, health, and general news. Every single interview, every single show, unlocks insights into what drives people to be doing what they're doing and what keeps them striving. The Adelaide Show is produced by Steve Davis, and ends with an original song by a South Australian artist. Please subscribe to our In Crowd list; you get an email each Friday with an overview of that week's show. This podcast began life as Another Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide from episodes 1-79.

As the political landscape shifts with international pressures and local concerns, this episode reminds us that finding our voice at the ballot box connects us to both our democratic heritage and our shared South Australian future.

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