In this week’s ABR podcast, James Curran considers the response of Asia-Pacific nations to the government’s decision to retain AUKUS, the major foreign affairs initiative of the Morrison government. In seeking to shape this response, Foreign Minister Penny Wong’s message is necessarily complex, argues Curran. James Curran is Professor of Modern History at Sydney University and foreign affairs columnist for the Australian Financial Review. Here he is reading ‘Exorcising the Ghosts: Australia’s new, old foreign policy’, which appears in the April issue of ABR.