This week, Kara and Liza recap “Spectacle” (Season 12, Episode 16) and discuss the unbelievable kidnapping of Delimar Vera.

SOURCES:
KHQ
Northwest Public Broadcasting
The Spokesman-Review
Idaho Press
HubPages
The New York Times
The Chicago Tribune
CNN
NBC News
The Guardian
Fox News
The Philadelphia Inquirer

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Cold Case Foundation

Next week’s episode will be “Personal Fouls" (Season 13, Episode 2). 

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This week, Kara and Liza recap &ldquo;Spectacle&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 16) and discuss the unbelievable kidnapping of Delimar Vera.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.khq.com/coldcase/moscow-police-continue-to-investigate-suspected-homicide-of-university-of-idaho-student-dating-back-to/article_9c9b9dd6-b9fe-43f7-8ae3-b899bdc590b7.html">KHQ</a> <a href="https://www.nwpb.org/murrow-news/2022-05-04/remembering-wil-hendrick-a-cold-murder-case-kept-alive">Northwest Public Broadcasting</a> <a href="https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1999/jul/04/clues-examined-in-search-for-missing-idaho-student/">The Spokesman-Review</a> <a href="https://www.idahopress.com/cavalcade/2022/a-look-at-idaho-cold-cases/article_29ded298-bf00-5155-b585-5965b1122b0b.html">Idaho Press</a> <a href="https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Murder-in-Moscow-the-Mysterious-1999-Murder-of-University-of-Idaho-student-Wil-Hendrik">HubPages</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/31/technology/a-beautiful-life-an-early-death-a-fraud-exposed.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/2004/07/02/student-admits-fake-kidnapping/">The Chicago Tribune</a> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/03/01/girl.found.alive/">CNN</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna4452305">NBC News</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/mar/12/gender.uk">The Guardian</a> <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/story/woman-took-baby-from-burning-house-gets-30-years">Fox News</a> <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080725__Little_Girl_Lost___Lifetime_movie_based_on_kidnapping_of_Feltonville_baby.html">The Philadelphia Inquirer</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/">Cold Case Foundation</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Personal Fouls" (Season 13, Episode 2).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Spectacle

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Today, Kara and Liza cover the episode “I Thought You Were on My Side” (Season 23, Episode 3), discuss the multiple Ron Jeremy sexual assault cases, and interview the wonderful Danielle Moné Truitt (Law & Order: Organized Crime).

SOURCES:
QNS
NBC New York
New York Daily News
New York Post
Department of Justice
PBS
NPR
NBC Los Angeles
Fox 10 Phoenix
Tampa Bay Times
The New York Times

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press

Next week’s episode will be “Spectacle” (Season 12, Episode 16). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Kara and Liza cover the episode &ldquo;I Thought You Were on My Side&rdquo; (Season 23, Episode 3), discuss the multiple Ron Jeremy sexual assault cases, and interview the wonderful Danielle Mon&eacute; Truitt (Law &amp; Order: Organized Crime).
SOURCES: <a href="https://qns.com/2018/06/mob-connected-howard-beach-bagel-store-owner-convicted-groping-employee-publisher-guilty-coverup/">QNS</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mobster-associate-queens-publisher-arrested-intimidation-charges/248191/">NBC New York</a> <a href="https://www.nydailynews.com/2018/06/25/queens-deli-worker-testifies-against-her-reputed-wiseguy-boss-in-forcible-touching-trial/">New York Daily News</a> <a href="https://nypost.com/2018/06/26/newspaper-publisher-admits-she-did-nothing-about-mob-threats/">New York Post</a> <a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/acting-captain-bonanno-crime-family-sentenced-14-years-imprisonment-racketeering">Department of Justice</a> <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/porn-actor-ron-jeremy-indicted-on-over-30-sex-assault-counts">PBS</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/01/19/1149861816/ron-jeremy-rape-trial-neurocognitive-decline">NPR</a> <a href="https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/timeline-sex-assault-allegations-against-adult-film-star-ron-jeremy/2919015/">NBC Los Angeles</a> <a href="https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/adult-film-star-ron-jeremy-released-to-private-residence-in-rape-case-due-to-declining-health">Fox 10 Phoenix</a> <a href="https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1999/04/13/arkansas-executes-man-convicted-of-5-slayings/">Tampa Bay Times</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1982/09/11/us/officials-defend-us-witness-protection-program.html?searchResultPosition=2">The New York Times</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.rcfp.org/">Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Spectacle&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 16).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

I Thought You Were on My Side w/ Danielle Moné Truitt

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This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “In the Wind” (Season 27, Episode 1), discuss the horrific murderer/ landlord Kim Kyu-soo, and interview the incredible immigration lawyer and podcaster Michael Foote. Michael is the host of the Exactly Right podcast ‘Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast’ and on this episode he sheds some light on the ongoing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement crisis.

SOURCES:
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Deportation in the second Trump administration
The Guardian
BBC 1
BBC 2
BBC 3
BBC 4
The Independent

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Casa De Paz

Next week’s episode will be “I Thought You Were on My Side” (Season 23, Episode 3).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, &ldquo;In the Wind&rdquo; (Season 27, Episode 1), discuss the horrific murderer/ landlord Kim Kyu-soo, and interview the incredible immigration lawyer and podcaster Michael Foote. Michael is the host of the Exactly Right podcast &lsquo;Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast&rsquo; and on this episode he sheds some light on the ongoing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement crisis.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/18/us/trump-deportation-numbers-immigration-crackdown.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_in_the_second_Trump_administration">Wikipedia - Deportation in the second Trump administration</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jan/18/nickhopkins">The Guardian</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2874471.stm">BBC 1</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2881803.stm">BBC 2</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/1876058.stm">BBC 3</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2819897.stm">BBC 4</a> <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/landlord-gets-life-for-stickytape-murders-112426.html">The Independent</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.casadepazcolorado.org/">Casa De Paz</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;I Thought You Were on My Side&rdquo; (Season 23, Episode 3).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

In the Wind w/ Michael Foote

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Burning With Rage Forever” (Season 23, Episode 11), investigate the Roblox child predator controversies, and interview the phenomenal Christian Navarro (13 Reasons Why).

SOURCES:
The Daily Telegraph 1
The Daily Telegraph 2
ABC News 1
ABC News 2
NBC News 1
NBC News 2
CBS News
Wikipedia - Child safety on Roblox
The New York Times
ENOUGH ABUSE
Lifehacker

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Breck Foundation
Roblox Isn't a Game

Next week’s episode will be “In the Wind” (Season 27, Episode 1).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode &ldquo;Burning With Rage Forever&rdquo; (Season 23, Episode 11), investigate the Roblox child predator controversies, and interview the phenomenal Christian Navarro (13 Reasons Why).
SOURCES: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160411172624/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11252415/Breck-Bednar-murder-computer-engineer-admits-killing-oil-millionaires-son.html">The Daily Telegraph 1</a> <a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11263702/Baby-faced-killer-posted-pictures-of-Breck-Bednars-body-on-the-Internet.html">The Daily Telegraph 2</a> <a href="https://abcnews.com/International/mom-sons-murder-online-gaming-partner/story?id=27309290">ABC News 1</a> <a href="https://abcnews.com/US/patrick-drum-killed-sex-offenders-life-sentence/story?id=17274171">ABC News 2</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-sentenced-life-killing-sex-offenders-judge-chastises-supporters-flna1b5966594">NBC News 1</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kidnapping-roblox-rcna201795">NBC News 2</a> <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/patrick-drum-wash-man-sentenced-to-life-without-parole-for-killing-sex-offenders/">CBS News</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_safety_on_Roblox">Wikipedia - Child safety on Roblox</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/podcasts/hardfork-roblox-child-safety.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://enoughabuse.org/roblox-a-playground-for-predators-part-1-of-2/">ENOUGH ABUSE</a> <a href="https://lifehacker.com/entertainment/roblox-introduces-new-parental-controls">Lifehacker</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.breckfoundation.org/">Breck Foundation</a> <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/video-game-health/202511/roblox-isnt-a-game">Roblox Isn't a Game</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;In the Wind&rdquo; (Season 27, Episode 1).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Burning With Rage Forever w/ Christian Navarro

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