This week, Liza and Kara go way back to season one to cover the episode, “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). They also discuss the date rape case of Katie Koestner and her ongoing legacy. Plus, they interview the talented Lothaire Bluteau.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Murder of Jeanne Clery
Wikipedia - Katie Koestner
Time 1
Time 2
katiekoestner.com
The Flat Hat
BBC
The Daily Item

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Take Back the Night

Next week’s episode will be “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12).

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This week, Liza and Kara go way back to season one to cover the episode, &ldquo;Sophomore Jinx&rdquo; (Season 1, Episode 6). They also discuss the date rape case of Katie Koestner and her ongoing legacy. Plus, they interview the talented Lothaire Bluteau.
SOURCES: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jeanne_Clery">Wikipedia - Murder of Jeanne Clery</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Koestner">Wikipedia - Katie Koestner</a> <a href="https://time.com/archive/6717846/the-clamor-on-campus/">Time 1</a> <a href="https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19910603,00.html">Time 2</a> <a href="https://katiekoestner.com/">katiekoestner.com</a> <a href="https://flathatnews.com/2017/01/23/making-the-personal-political-katie-koestner-94-speaks-out-changes-national-conversation-on-rape/">The Flat Hat</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36434191">BBC</a> <a href="https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-daily-item/25029351/">The Daily Item</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://takebackthenight.org/">Take Back the Night</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Hothouse&rdquo; (Season 10, Episode 12).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Sophomore Jinx w/ Lothaire Bluteau

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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Cold” (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary.

SOURCES:
ABC 13
The New York Times
Tampa Bay Times
Vidocq Society
Police1
CBS News
MinnPost
KIRO 7
Medium

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Vidocq Society

Next week’s episode will be “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode &ldquo;Cold&rdquo; (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary.
SOURCES: <a href="https://abc13.com/post/pure-evil-elizabeth-pea-jennifer-ertman-fatally-attacked-1993-taking-shortcut-houstons-tc-jester-park/13419380/">ABC 13</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/09/us/houston-knows-murder-but-this.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1994/10/12/fathers-confront-daughters-killers/">Tampa Bay Times</a> <a href="https://vidocq.org/about-us/founding/">Vidocq Society</a> <a href="https://www.police1.com/cold-case/articles/5-things-to-know-about-the-vidocq-society-Ehe6wY3ZQNZk5cZe/">Police1</a> <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/dna-evidence-reveals-identity-of-1980-murder-victim/">CBS News</a> <a href="https://www.minnpost.com/other-nonprofit-media/2015/09/minnesota-woman-s-tireless-campaign-crack-decades-old-cold-case/">MinnPost</a> <a href="https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/florida-jane-doe-identified-after-nearly-48-years-may-be-victim-serial-killer-cop/EVQOSTZJ6VDSFOFMJV7UKLMGWI/">KIRO 7</a> <a href="https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/gerard-schaefer-serial-killer-cop-51ac6db5b483">Medium</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://vidocq.org/">Vidocq Society</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Sophomore Jinx&rdquo; (Season 1, Episode 6).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Cold w/ Judith McCreary

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/11e15537-62fc-4b5a-b413-b3fe01650a30/transcript

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer."

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - To Catch a Predator
Wikipedia - Gary Ridgway
ABC News
The Washington Post
all that’s interesting
The New York Times
People

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Predators (2025)

Next week’s episode will be “Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap &ldquo;Pursuit&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer."
SOURCES: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Catch_a_Predator">Wikipedia - To Catch a Predator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway">Wikipedia - Gary Ridgway</a> <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/green-river-killer-claims-murdered-dozens-women/story?id=20282652">ABC News</a> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/12/19/green-river-killer-given-life-in-prison/aa16070f-502c-491f-9e7d-1591c5293ddb/">The Washington Post</a> <a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/green-river-killer-gary-ridgway">all that&rsquo;s interesting</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/26/us/early-tip-fell-short-in-green-river-killings.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://people.com/who-is-the-green-river-killer-gary-ridgway-11786250">People</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34963732/">Predators (2025)</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Pursuit

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/3743d556-06b9-4f62-997f-b3fa012cc998/transcript

Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility.

SOURCES:
Vice
NBC News
ABC World News
The Arizona Republic
The Independent
Slate
Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention

Next week’s episode will be “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode &ldquo;Let Me Bring Pardon&rdquo; (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/incapacitated-arizona-woman-who-gave-birth-after-rape-was-likely-pregnant-before-family-says/">Vice</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arizona-nurse-charged-sexually-assaulting-incapacitated-woman-was-once-christian-n961971">NBC News</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1275295189262136">ABC World News</a> <a href="https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2021/12/02/hacienda-healthcare-nurse-nathan-sutherland-sentenced-to-10-years-in-prison/8831657002/">The Arizona Republic</a> <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/phoneix-woman-raped-killed-settlement-b1867985.html">The Independent</a> <a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/hacienda-healthcare-incapacitated-woman-birth-vegetative-state.html?pay=1768895361640&amp;support_journalism=please">Slate</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacienda_HealthCare_sexual_abuse_case">Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJtjJiWAra8">How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Pursuit&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 17).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Let Me Bring Pardon

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/5ed4b7bc-886c-47f0-8539-b3f00160a35b/transcript

Sophomore Jinx w/ Lothaire Bluteau

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