Today, Liza and Kara tackle the classic SVU episode “Savant” (Season 9, Episode 4) and discuss the bizarre crimes of wife-murderer Jonathan Nyce.

SOURCES:
The New York Times
NBC News
The Reporter
NBC Philadelphia
American Veterinary Medical Association
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
Forensic Files Now

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Help Nelson and Ariel Through ICE Detention Crisis

Next week’s episode will be “Star-Struck Victims” (Season 17, Episode 16). 

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Today, Liza and Kara tackle the classic SVU episode &ldquo;Savant&rdquo; (Season 9, Episode 4) and discuss the bizarre crimes of wife-murderer Jonathan Nyce.
SOURCES: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150831074441/https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/16/nyregion/case-unfolds-against-new-jersey-man-in-wifes-death-in-04.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna10995020">NBC News</a> <a href="https://www.thereporteronline.com/2005/03/23/new-details-muddle-nyce-case/">The Reporter</a> <a href="https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/man-who-killed-wife-charged-with-selling-fake-canine-cancer-medicines/2288274/">NBC Philadelphia</a> <a href="https://www.avma.org/javma-news/2020-04-01/man-accused-selling-fake-cancer-cures-preying-grieving-dog-owners">American Veterinary Medical Association</a> <a href="https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/doj-press-releases-involving-fda-oci/collegeville-man-sentenced-97-months-prison-scheme-sell-fraudulent-canine-cancer-drugs-pet-owners">U.S. Food and Drug Administration</a> <a href="https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/2018/08/24/update-on-jonathan-nyce/">Forensic Files Now</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-nelson-and-ariel-through-ice-detention-crisis?attribution_id=sl:b2eb3305-305f-4561-b04b-d4c13b1c60e2&amp;lang=en_US&amp;ts=1782835640&amp;utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&amp;utm_content=amp20_t1&amp;utm_medium=customer&amp;utm_source=copy_link">Help Nelson and Ariel Through ICE Detention Crisis</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Star-Struck Victims&rdquo; (Season 17, Episode 16).&nbsp;
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Savant

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This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Murdered at a Bad Address” (Season 21, Episode 6) and discuss the scandal surrounding corrupt cop Louis N. Scarcella. Plus, they interview the wonderful Happy Anderson.

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
Wikipedia - Louis Scarcella
KTLA
ABC 7
CBS News
6ABC
Courthouse News Service
The Innocence Center
The San Diego Union-Tribune

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Frederick Douglass Project for Justice

Next week’s episode will be “Savant” (Season 9, Episode 4).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, &ldquo;Murdered at a Bad Address&rdquo; (Season 21, Episode 6) and discuss the scandal surrounding corrupt cop Louis N. Scarcella. Plus, they interview the wonderful Happy Anderson.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/15/nyregion/louis-scarcella-detective-overturned-conviction.html">The New York Times 1</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/nyregion/louis-scarcella-nypd-settlements.html">The New York Times 2</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/nyregion/louis-scarcella-nypd.html">The New York Times 3</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/25/nyregion/louis-scarcella-murder-dismissals.html">The New York Times 4</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/28/nyregion/like-his-old-partner-scarcella-chmil-comes-under-scrutiny.html">The New York Times 5</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Scarcella">Wikipedia - Louis Scarcella</a> <a href="https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-expected-to-be-exonerated-after-16-years-in-prison-dna-evidence-points-to-teardrop-rapist-as-real-attacker/">KTLA</a> <a href="https://abc7.com/post/mans-rape-conviction-overturned-after-serving-16-years-in-prison/1097128/">ABC 7</a> <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dna-clears-man-convicted-in-3-rapes-in-1999/">CBS News</a> <a href="https://6abc.com/post/dna-frees-rape-convict;-evidence-points-to-fugitive-rapist/1097377/">6ABC</a> <a href="https://www.courthousenews.com/free-after-16-years-innocent-man-sues-lapd/">Courthouse News Service</a> <a href="https://theinnocencecenter.org/case/luis-vargas/">The Innocence Center</a> <a href="https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2015/11/24/dna-frees-rape-convict-evidence-points-to-fugitive-rapist/">The San Diego Union-Tribune</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.douglassproject.org/">The Frederick Douglass Project for Justice</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Savant&rdquo; (Season 9, Episode 4).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Murdered at a Bad Address w/ Happy Anderson

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/7ee3a8d0-af45-4044-aab5-b47800e5d7c2/transcript

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Devastating Story” (Season 16, Episode 18), investigate the retracted "A Rape on Campus" article published in Rolling Stone magazine, and chat with the delightful Ally Ioannides.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - 2007 De Anza College rape investigation
The Guardian
ABC 7 News
Wikipedia - A Rape on Campus
Washington Post
BBC
NPR 1
NPR 2
Rolling Stone
WTVR

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
End Rape on Campus

Next week’s episode will be “Murdered at a Bad Address” (Season 21, Episode 6).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode &ldquo;Devastating Story&rdquo; (Season 16, Episode 18), investigate the retracted "A Rape on Campus" article published in Rolling Stone magazine, and chat with the delightful Ally Ioannides.
SOURCES: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_De_Anza_College_rape_investigation">Wikipedia - 2007 De Anza College rape investigation</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/09/stanford-sexual-assault-judge-aaron-persky-de-anza-college">The Guardian</a> <a href="https://abc7news.com/archive/8300480/">ABC 7 News</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus">Wikipedia - A Rape on Campus</a> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/police-find-no-evidence-of-alleged-sexual-assault-at-u-va-fraternity/2015/03/23/374c767e-cf5e-11e4-a2a7-9517a3a70506_story.html">Washington Post</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37879151">BBC</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/2016/04/10/473702981/revisiting-rolling-stone-s-discredited-campus-rape-story">NPR 1</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/12/523527227/rolling-stone-settles-defamation-case-with-former-u-va-associate-dean">NPR 2</a> <a href="https://files.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-content/blogs.dir/8164/files/2019/08/A-Rape-on-Campus-Rolling-Stone.pdf">Rolling Stone</a> <a href="https://www.wtvr.com/2016/10/24/jackie-stands-by-her-story-as-rolling-stone-trial-continues">WTVR</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://endrapeoncampus.org/">End Rape on Campus</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Murdered at a Bad Address&rdquo; (Season 21, Episode 6).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Devastating Story w/ Ally Ioannides

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/2199b802-8ff7-4835-8861-b47100fd31d6/transcript

This week, Kara and Liza recap a two-part episode, “American Dream” & “Sanctuary” (Season 18, Episodes 2 & 21). They discuss the real-life racially motivated murder by Adam Purinton. And to cap off the episode, they interview the fabulous Poorna Jagannathan.

SOURCES:
PBS
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
AL.com
Center for Immigration Studies

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Shoulder to Shoulder Campaign

Next week’s episode will be “Devastating Story" (Season 16, Episode 18). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza recap a two-part episode, &ldquo;American Dream&rdquo; &amp; &ldquo;Sanctuary&rdquo; (Season 18, Episodes 2 &amp; 21). They discuss the real-life racially motivated murder by Adam Purinton. And to cap off the episode, they interview the fabulous Poorna Jagannathan.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/kansas-man-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-2017-shooting-that-targeted-indian-men">PBS</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/he-became-a-hate-crime-victim-she-became-a-widow.html?">The New York Times 1</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/nyregion/sanctuary-city-nyc-trump.html">The New York Times 2</a> <a href="https://www.al.com/politics/2026/05/what-does-trump-threat-to-sanctuary-city-airports-mean-for-travelers.html">AL.com</a> <a href="https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States">Center for Immigration Studies</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.shouldertoshouldercampaign.org/">The Shoulder to Shoulder Campaign</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Devastating Story" (Season 16, Episode 18).&nbsp;
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American Dream & Sanctuary w/ Poorna Jagannathan

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