This episode, Kara and Liza recap “Rooftop” (Season 3, Episode 4), the story of Nushawn Williams, and talk with returning guest and SVU superstar, Neal Baer. 




SOURCES:

The Center for HIV Law and Policy

NY Times - 1

NY Times - 2

NY Times - 3

Wikipedia - 1

Wikipedia - 2

WIVB 4

South Coast Today




WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

(1) Black AIDS Institute (BAI) - https://blackaids.org/

(2) “Notorious H.I.V.: The Media Spectacle of Nushawn Williams” by Thomas Shevory




Next week’s episode will be “Pique” (Season 2, Episode 20). 

This episode, Kara and Liza recap “Rooftop” (Season 3, Episode 4), the story of Nushawn Williams, and talk with returning guest and SVU superstar, Neal Baer.  SOURCES:<a href="https://www.hivlawandpolicy.org/resources/nushawn-williams-case-background-and-talking-points-center-hiv-law-and-policy-updated-2021">The Center for HIV Law and Policy</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/30/nyregion/after-childhood-of-violence-a-one-man-hiv-epidemic.html">NY Times - 1</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/31/nyregion/circle-widens-in-case-of-man-accused-of-spreading-hiv.html">NY Times - 2</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/nyregion/14nushawn.html">NY Times - 3</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nushawn_Williams">Wikipedia - 1</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Gaynor">Wikipedia - 2</a><a href="https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/former-doctor-to-nushawn-williams-weighs-in-on-latest-ruling/">WIVB 4</a><a href="https://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/19980501/news/305019961">South Coast Today</a> WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:(1) Black AIDS Institute (BAI) - <a href="https://blackaids.org/">https://blackaids.org/</a>(2) “Notorious H.I.V.: The Media Spectacle of Nushawn Williams” by Thomas Shevory Next week’s episode will be “Pique” (Season 2, Episode 20).

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

This episode, Kara and Liza recap “Rooftop” (Season 3, Episode 4), the story of Nushawn Williams, and talk with returning guest and SVU superstar, Neal Baer. 




SOURCES:

The Center for HIV Law and Policy

NY Times - 1

NY Times - 2

NY Times - 3

Wikipedia - 1

Wikipedia - 2

WIVB 4

South Coast Today




WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

(1) Black AIDS Institute (BAI) - https://blackaids.org/

(2) “Notorious H.I.V.: The Media Spectacle of Nushawn Williams” by Thomas Shevory




Next week’s episode will be “Pique” (Season 2, Episode 20).

Rooftop w/ Neal Baer

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/5b4fc3af-9378-4429-90f7-b27700850eed/transcript

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