In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer."

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - To Catch a Predator
Wikipedia - Gary Ridgway
ABC News
The Washington Post
all that’s interesting
The New York Times
People

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Predators (2025)

Next week’s episode will be “Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

In this episode, Liza and Kara recap &ldquo;Pursuit&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer."
SOURCES: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Catch_a_Predator">Wikipedia - To Catch a Predator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway">Wikipedia - Gary Ridgway</a> <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/green-river-killer-claims-murdered-dozens-women/story?id=20282652">ABC News</a> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/12/19/green-river-killer-given-life-in-prison/aa16070f-502c-491f-9e7d-1591c5293ddb/">The Washington Post</a> <a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/green-river-killer-gary-ridgway">all that&rsquo;s interesting</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/26/us/early-tip-fell-short-in-green-river-killings.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://people.com/who-is-the-green-river-killer-gary-ridgway-11786250">People</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34963732/">Predators (2025)</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Pursuit

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Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility.

SOURCES:
Vice
NBC News
ABC World News
The Arizona Republic
The Independent
Slate
Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention

Next week’s episode will be “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode &ldquo;Let Me Bring Pardon&rdquo; (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/incapacitated-arizona-woman-who-gave-birth-after-rape-was-likely-pregnant-before-family-says/">Vice</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arizona-nurse-charged-sexually-assaulting-incapacitated-woman-was-once-christian-n961971">NBC News</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1275295189262136">ABC World News</a> <a href="https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2021/12/02/hacienda-healthcare-nurse-nathan-sutherland-sentenced-to-10-years-in-prison/8831657002/">The Arizona Republic</a> <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/phoneix-woman-raped-killed-settlement-b1867985.html">The Independent</a> <a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/hacienda-healthcare-incapacitated-woman-birth-vegetative-state.html?pay=1768895361640&amp;support_journalism=please">Slate</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacienda_HealthCare_sexual_abuse_case">Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJtjJiWAra8">How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Pursuit&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 17).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Let Me Bring Pardon

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This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,“Responsible” (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin.

SOURCES:
ABC News
CNN
The Guardian
The Today Show
NBC News
Bradenton Herald
People 1
People 2
Tampa Bay Times
WLTX19

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
FindTreatment.gov

Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,&ldquo;Responsible&rdquo; (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin.
SOURCES: <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=300153&amp;page=1">ABC News</a> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/11/22/teacher.sex/index.html">CNN</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/24/usa.gender">The Guardian</a> <a href="https://www.today.com/news/preview-debra-lafave-i-crossed-line-wbna14801562">The Today Show</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna22103650">NBC News</a> <a href="https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/crime/article34526142.html">Bradenton Herald</a> <a href="https://people.com/crime/debra-lafave-student-sex-scandal-christian-mom/">People 1</a> <a href="https://people.com/crime/debra-lafave-florida-teacher-sex-scandal-her-life-now/">People 2</a> <a href="https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/debra-lafave-teacher-convicted-of-sex-with-student-ordered-back-on/1245978/">Tampa Bay Times</a> <a href="https://www.wltx.com/article/news/nation/ex-teacher-guilty-of-sex-with-student-wont-get-new-jail-time/101-381552705">WLTX19</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://findtreatment.gov/">FindTreatment.gov</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Let Me Bring Pardon&rdquo; (Season 26, Episode 16).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Responsible w/ Leven Rambin

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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dance, Lies and Videotape” (Season 21, Episode 17). Plus, they investigate the Alexandra Waterbury case involving ballet and the non-consensual sharing of explicit images.


SOURCES:
BBC
ABC7NY
New York Post 1
New York Post 2
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Stand With Minnesota
Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota
Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid

Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode &ldquo;Dance, Lies and Videotape&rdquo; (Season 21, Episode 17). Plus, they investigate the Alexandra Waterbury case involving ballet and the non-consensual sharing of explicit images.
 SOURCES: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45437643">BBC</a> <a href="https://abc7ny.com/post/live-update-on-ballerinas-lawsuit-against-nyc-ballet/4160922/">ABC7NY</a> <a href="https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/former-nyc-ballet-dancer-claims-ex-used-lawsuit-to-bolster-career/">New York Post 1</a> <a href="https://nypost.com/2019/04/19/male-ballet-dancers-fired-over-explicit-photo-scandal-should-get-jobs-back-arbitrator/">New York Post 2</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/arts/dance/nyc-ballet-alexandra-waterbury.html">The New York Times 1</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/arts/dance/peter-martins-ballet-new-york-city-physical-abuse.html">The New York Times 2</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/22/nyregion/martins-ballet-master-held-on-charge-he-beat-his-wife.html">The New York Times 3</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/arts/dance/special-victims-unit-ballet-episode.html">The New York Times 4</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/arts/dance/alexandra-waterbury-chase-finlay-lawsuit.html">The New York Times 5</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.standwithminnesota.com/">Stand With Minnesota</a> <a href="https://www.ilcm.org/">Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota</a> <a href="https://mylegalaid.org/">Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Let Me Bring Pardon&rdquo; (Season 26, Episode 16).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Dance, Lies and Videotape

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