This week, Liza and Kara recap “Lowdown” (Season 5, Episode 20), discuss the “Down-low phenomenon” and the death of Frank Vaccaro, and speak to the prolific Michael Beach (Waiting to Exhale, ER).

SOURCES:

Wikipedia - Down-low (sexual slang)

The New York Times

National Center for Biotechnology Information

The Village Voice

Oprah.com

The Reckoning

Tampa Bay Times

Findlaw.com

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

National Black Justice Collective

Next week’s episode will be “Shattered” (Season 11, Episode 24). 

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This week, Liza and Kara recap “Lowdown” (Season 5, Episode 20), discuss the “Down-low phenomenon” and the death of Frank Vaccaro, and speak to the prolific Michael Beach (Waiting to Exhale, ER).SOURCES:<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down-low_(sexual_slang)">Wikipedia - Down-low (sexual slang)</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/03/magazine/double-lives-on-the-down-low.html?pagewanted=all">The New York Times</a><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10542689/">National Center for Biotechnology Information</a><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121019134820/http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-06-05/news/the-great-down-low-debate/1/">The Village Voice</a><a href="https://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/a-secret-sex-world-living-on-the-down-low/all">Oprah.com</a><a href="https://www.thereckoningmag.com/the-reckoning-blog/no-identifying-as-dl-is-not-the-flex-you-think-it-is#gs.ck047m">The Reckoning</a><a href="https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1994/12/10/sudden-end-to-a-troubled-life/">Tampa Bay Times</a><a href="https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/fl-district-court-of-appeal/1112319.html">Findlaw.com</a>WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:<a href="https://nbjc.org/">National Black Justice Collective</a>Next week’s episode will be “Shattered” (Season 11, Episode 24). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Lowdown” (Season 5, Episode 20), discuss the “Down-low phenomenon” and the death of Frank Vaccaro, and speak to the prolific Michael Beach (Waiting to Exhale, ER).

Lowdown w/ Michael Beach

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/079fa271-ea36-4ce3-b8c3-b276017b8f5b/transcript

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11), discuss the "Fight Club" phenomenon caused by the book and movie, and interview the legendary Audrie Neenan.

SOURCES:
The New Yorker
HuffPost
ABC News
New York Post
Courthouse News Service
Justia U.S. Law
Los Angeles Times
Duluth News Tribune

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
LiveYourDream.org

Next week, Kara and Liza will be covering the docuseries, “Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?”

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In this week&rsquo;s episode, Kara and Liza tackle the episode &ldquo;Pop&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 11), discuss the "Fight Club" phenomenon caused by the book and movie, and interview the legendary Audrie Neenan.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-men-who-still-love-fight-club">The New Yorker</a> <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fight-club-director-extreme-right-fan-base_n_65400021e4b032ae1c9c301d">HuffPost</a> <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1769300">ABC News</a> <a href="https://nypost.com/2010/02/03/dad-overheard-son-talk-of-teacher-fight-club/">New York Post</a> <a href="https://www.courthousenews.com/fight-club-at-p-s-65/">Courthouse News Service</a> <a href="https://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/other-courts/2013/2013-ny-slip-op-33504-u.html">Justia U.S. Law</a> <a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-oct-03-me-fightclub3-story.html">Los Angeles Times</a> <a href="https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/monticello-minn-teen-boys-fight-club-told-knock-it-off">Duluth News Tribune</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.liveyourdream.org/">LiveYourDream.org</a>
Next week, Kara and Liza will be covering the docuseries, &ldquo;Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?&rdquo;
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Pop w/ Audrie Neenan

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This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode, “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17), and discuss the scandalous George Roche III affair at Hillsdale College.

SOURCES:
Vanity Fair
The New York Times
Wikipedia - George Roche III
Wikipedia - Hillsdale College
National Review

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Toys For Tots

Next week’s episode will be “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11). 

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This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode, &ldquo;Misleader&rdquo; (Season 1, Episode 17), and discuss the scandalous George Roche III affair at Hillsdale College.
SOURCES: <a href="https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2000/3/deadly-devotion">Vanity Fair</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/15/us/scandal-rocks-a-conservative-campus.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Roche_III">Wikipedia - George Roche III</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsdale_College">Wikipedia - Hillsdale College</a> <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/1999/11/horror-hillsdale-john-j-miller/">National Review</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.toysfortots.org/">Toys For Tots</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Pop&rdquo; (Season 12, Episode 11).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Misleader

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/a2774060-7da9-43a0-9af4-b3a70101e327/transcript

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “They'd Already Disappeared” (Season 23, Episode 7). They investigate multiple cases, including the infamous Anatoly Moskvin and his 29 mummified human dolls. And to cleanse the palate, they interview the incredibly talented Blake DeLong.

SOURCES:
Texas Department of Public Safety
FBI.gov
The Cut
BBC
The Sun
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Harrison Graham
The Guardian
CNN
CBC 1
CBC 2

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
‎Dollmaker:The Anatoly Moskvin Story

Next week’s episode will be “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode &ldquo;They'd Already Disappeared&rdquo; (Season 23, Episode 7). They investigate multiple cases, including the infamous Anatoly Moskvin and his 29 mummified human dolls. And to cleanse the palate, they interview the incredibly talented Blake DeLong.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.dps.texas.gov/news/new-details-released-unsolved-samuel-little-murders">Texas Department of Public Safety</a> <a href="https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/samuel-little-most-prolific-serial-killer-in-us-history-100619">FBI.gov</a> <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2018/12/how-serial-killer-samuel-little-was-caught.html">The Cut</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-15653074">BBC</a> <a href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7333048/twisted-russian-graverobber-stole-corpses-of-29-kids-mummified-them-and-dressed-them-up-as-dolls-with-lipstick-and-make-up-for-sickening-trophy-collection/">The Sun</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/28/us/philadelphia-judge-finds-a-man-guilty-of-killing-7-women.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Graham">Wikipedia - Harrison Graham</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jan/26/1">The Guardian</a> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/01/28/pig.farm.murders.reut/">CNN</a> <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/crown-lays-out-grisly-case-against-pickton-1.681180">CBC 1</a> <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news2/background/pickton/history.html">CBC 2</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/dollmakerthe-anatoly-moskvin-story/umc.cmc.1wvfw1k5bclbl2m0vytru65cn">&lrm;Dollmaker:The Anatoly Moskvin Story</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Misleader&rdquo; (Season 1, Episode 17).
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They'd Already Disappeared w/ Blake DeLong

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Lowdown w/ Michael Beach

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