This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “In the Wind” (Season 27, Episode 1), discuss the horrific murderer/ landlord Kim Kyu-soo, and interview the incredible immigration lawyer and podcaster Michael Foote. Michael is the host of the Exactly Right podcast ‘Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast’ and on this episode he sheds some light on the ongoing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement crisis.

SOURCES:
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Deportation in the second Trump administration
The Guardian
BBC 1
BBC 2
BBC 3
BBC 4
The Independent

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Casa De Paz

Next week’s episode will be “I Thought You Were on My Side” (Season 23, Episode 3).

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This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, &ldquo;In the Wind&rdquo; (Season 27, Episode 1), discuss the horrific murderer/ landlord Kim Kyu-soo, and interview the incredible immigration lawyer and podcaster Michael Foote. Michael is the host of the Exactly Right podcast &lsquo;Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast&rsquo; and on this episode he sheds some light on the ongoing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement crisis.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/18/us/trump-deportation-numbers-immigration-crackdown.html">The New York Times</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_in_the_second_Trump_administration">Wikipedia - Deportation in the second Trump administration</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jan/18/nickhopkins">The Guardian</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2874471.stm">BBC 1</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2881803.stm">BBC 2</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/1876058.stm">BBC 3</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2819897.stm">BBC 4</a> <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/landlord-gets-life-for-stickytape-murders-112426.html">The Independent</a>
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Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;I Thought You Were on My Side&rdquo; (Season 23, Episode 3).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.