This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode “Betrayal's Climax” (Season 15, Episode 13), discuss the rape conviction of a Virginian MS-13 gang member, and interview the wonderful actor and filmmaker Fiona Robert.

SOURCES:

Richmond Times-Dispatch

United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 1

United States Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 2

Wikipedia - MS-13

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

Homeboy Industries

Next week’s episode will be “Trick-Rolled at the Moulin” (Season 22, Episode 13). 

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This week, Liza and Kara cover the SVU episode &ldquo;Betrayal's Climax&rdquo; (Season 15, Episode 13), discuss the rape conviction of a Virginian MS-13 gang member, and interview the wonderful actor and filmmaker Fiona Robert.
SOURCES:
<a href="https://richmond.com/news/local/ms-13-gang-member-sentenced-to-20-years-in-chesterfield-teen-rape/article_a0cf176b-f7d2-5416-8c08-524347c3eca4.html">Richmond Times-Dispatch</a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/mara-salvatrucha-leader-pantro-along-other-ms-13-members-sentenced-racketeering">United States Attorney&rsquo;s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 1</a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/ms-13-leader-sentenced-multiple-racketeering-offenses">United States Attorney&rsquo;s Office - Eastern District of Virginia 2</a>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13">Wikipedia - MS-13</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
<a href="https://homeboyindustries.org/">Homeboy Industries</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Trick-Rolled at the Moulin&rdquo; (Season 22, Episode 13).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Betrayal's Climax w/ Fiona Robert

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Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Devastating Story” (Season 16, Episode 18), investigate the retracted "A Rape on Campus" article published in Rolling Stone magazine, and chat with the delightful Ally Ioannides.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - 2007 De Anza College rape investigation
The Guardian
ABC 7 News
Wikipedia - A Rape on Campus
Washington Post
BBC
NPR 1
NPR 2
Rolling Stone
WTVR

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
End Rape on Campus

Next week’s episode will be “Murdered at a Bad Address” (Season 21, Episode 6).

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Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode &ldquo;Devastating Story&rdquo; (Season 16, Episode 18), investigate the retracted "A Rape on Campus" article published in Rolling Stone magazine, and chat with the delightful Ally Ioannides.
SOURCES: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_De_Anza_College_rape_investigation">Wikipedia - 2007 De Anza College rape investigation</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/09/stanford-sexual-assault-judge-aaron-persky-de-anza-college">The Guardian</a> <a href="https://abc7news.com/archive/8300480/">ABC 7 News</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus">Wikipedia - A Rape on Campus</a> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/police-find-no-evidence-of-alleged-sexual-assault-at-u-va-fraternity/2015/03/23/374c767e-cf5e-11e4-a2a7-9517a3a70506_story.html">Washington Post</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37879151">BBC</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/2016/04/10/473702981/revisiting-rolling-stone-s-discredited-campus-rape-story">NPR 1</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/12/523527227/rolling-stone-settles-defamation-case-with-former-u-va-associate-dean">NPR 2</a> <a href="https://files.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-content/blogs.dir/8164/files/2019/08/A-Rape-on-Campus-Rolling-Stone.pdf">Rolling Stone</a> <a href="https://www.wtvr.com/2016/10/24/jackie-stands-by-her-story-as-rolling-stone-trial-continues">WTVR</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://endrapeoncampus.org/">End Rape on Campus</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Murdered at a Bad Address&rdquo; (Season 21, Episode 6).
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Devastating Story w/ Ally Ioannides

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This week, Kara and Liza recap a two-part episode, “American Dream” & “Sanctuary” (Season 18, Episodes 2 & 21). They discuss the real-life racially motivated murder by Adam Purinton. And to cap off the episode, they interview the fabulous Poorna Jagannathan.

SOURCES:
PBS
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
AL.com
Center for Immigration Studies

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Shoulder to Shoulder Campaign

Next week’s episode will be “Devastating Story" (Season 16, Episode 18). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza recap a two-part episode, &ldquo;American Dream&rdquo; &amp; &ldquo;Sanctuary&rdquo; (Season 18, Episodes 2 &amp; 21). They discuss the real-life racially motivated murder by Adam Purinton. And to cap off the episode, they interview the fabulous Poorna Jagannathan.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/kansas-man-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-2017-shooting-that-targeted-indian-men">PBS</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/he-became-a-hate-crime-victim-she-became-a-widow.html?">The New York Times 1</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/nyregion/sanctuary-city-nyc-trump.html">The New York Times 2</a> <a href="https://www.al.com/politics/2026/05/what-does-trump-threat-to-sanctuary-city-airports-mean-for-travelers.html">AL.com</a> <a href="https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States">Center for Immigration Studies</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.shouldertoshouldercampaign.org/">The Shoulder to Shoulder Campaign</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Devastating Story" (Season 16, Episode 18).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

American Dream & Sanctuary w/ Poorna Jagannathan

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Today, Liza and Kara tackle the disturbing episode “Angels” (Season 4, Episode 6), NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association), and the horrific real-life work of psychologist and sexologist Helmut Kentler.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Helmut Kentler
The New Yorker

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles by Rachel Aviv

Next week’s episode will be “American Dream” & “Sanctuary” (Season 18, Episodes 20 & 21). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Liza and Kara tackle the disturbing episode &ldquo;Angels&rdquo; (Season 4, Episode 6), NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association), and the horrific real-life work of psychologist and sexologist Helmut Kentler.
SOURCES: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kentler">Wikipedia - Helmut Kentler</a> <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles">The New Yorker</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles">The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles by Rachel Aviv</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;American Dream&rdquo; &amp; &ldquo;Sanctuary&rdquo; (Season 18, Episodes 20 &amp; 21).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Angels

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Betrayal's Climax w/ Fiona Robert

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