This week Kara and Liza recap “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16) and explore two truly wild cases; Betty Neumar (a.k.a. "The Black Widow Granny") and Sante and Kenneth Kimes. Plus, they speak to the legend Matthew Lillard (Scream, Scooby-Doo).

This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.

SOURCES:

The New York Times 1

The New York Times 2

The New York Times 3

The New York Times 4

The New York Times 5

Vanity Fair

The Daily Mail

Cleveland.com

Syracuse.com

The Florida Times-Union

Los Angeles Times

The Maverick Files

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

Like Mother, Like Son: The Strange Story Of Santé & Kenneth Kimes

Next week’s episode will be “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16).

This week Kara and Liza recap “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16) and explore two truly wild cases; Betty Neumar (a.k.a. "The Black Widow Granny") and Sante and Kenneth Kimes. Plus, they speak to the legend Matthew Lillard (Scream, Scooby-Doo).This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.SOURCES:<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/nyregion/sante-kimes-dies-in-prison-at-79-killed-and-swindled-with-her-son.html">The New York Times 1</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/11/nyregion/kenneth-kimes-takes-reporter-as-a-hostage.html?searchResultPosition=4">The New York Times 2</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/17/nyregion/sante-kimes-chastised-by-judge-over-contacts-with-news-media.html?searchResultPosition=10">The New York Times 3</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/17/nyregion/investigators-want-to-check-kimes-s-story.html?searchResultPosition=3">The New York Times 4</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/22/us/national-briefing-west-california-life-terms-for-pair.html?ref=santekimes">The New York Times 5</a><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2000/03/sante-kimes-mother-murderer-criminal-mastermind">Vanity Fair</a><a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6431249/Son-murderous-grifter-Sante-Kimes-reveals-taught-kill.html">The Daily Mail</a><a href="https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2011/06/mystery_surrounds_ohio_native.html">Cleveland.com</a><a href="https://www.syracuse.com/news/2011/06/secrets_of_woman_with_5_dead_h.html">Syracuse.com</a><a href="https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2010/08/03/murder-case-against-augusta-grandmother-resurfaces/15936066007/">The Florida Times-Union</a><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-nov-30-tm-kimes48-story.html">Los Angeles Times</a><a href="https://themaverickfiles.medium.com/black-widow-granny-murderer-of-5-husbands-or-victim-of-bad-luck-fc322c9ea3d1">The Maverick Files</a>WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuTNVtL4HPg">Like Mother, Like Son: The Strange Story Of Santé &amp; Kenneth Kimes</a>Next week’s episode will be “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16).

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

This week Kara and Liza recap “Ballerina” (Season 10, Episode 16) and explore two truly wild cases; Betty Neumar (a.k.a. "The Black Widow Granny") and Sante and Kenneth Kimes. Plus, they speak to the legend Matthew Lillard (Scream, Scooby-Doo).

This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.

SOURCES:

The New York Times 1

The New York Times 2

The New York Times 3

The New York Times 4

The New York Times 5

Vanity Fair

The Daily Mail

Cleveland.com

Syracuse.com

The Florida Times-Union

Los Angeles Times

The Maverick Files

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

Like Mother, Like Son: The Strange Story Of Santé &amp; Kenneth Kimes

Next week’s episode will be “The Third Guy” (Season 1, Episode 16).

Ballerina w/ Matthew Lillard

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/b8bbfc2e-ece5-45cc-ae4e-b277007126c1/transcript

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