Today, Liza and Kara tackle the disturbing episode “Angels” (Season 4, Episode 6), NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association), and the horrific real-life work of psychologist and sexologist Helmut Kentler.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Helmut Kentler
The New Yorker

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles by Rachel Aviv

Next week’s episode will be “American Dream” & “Sanctuary” (Season 18, Episodes 20 & 21). 

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Today, Liza and Kara tackle the disturbing episode &ldquo;Angels&rdquo; (Season 4, Episode 6), NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association), and the horrific real-life work of psychologist and sexologist Helmut Kentler.
SOURCES: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kentler">Wikipedia - Helmut Kentler</a> <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles">The New Yorker</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles">The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles by Rachel Aviv</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;American Dream&rdquo; &amp; &ldquo;Sanctuary&rdquo; (Season 18, Episodes 20 &amp; 21).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Angels

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This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Motherly Love” (Season 18, Episode 10) and discuss the upsetting crimes of pedophile teacher Pamela Joan Rogers. Plus, they interview the delightful Sarah Wynter. 

SOURCES:
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
NBC New York
ABC 7 New York
Spectrum News New York 1
New York Daily News 1
New York Daily News 2
Tennessee Sex Offender Registry
The Court Of Appeals Of Tennessee At Nashville
NBC News
New York Post

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
12 Signs of Narcissistic Abuse Syndrome (and How to Get Help)

Next week’s episode will be “Angels” (Season 4, Episode 6).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, &ldquo;Motherly Love&rdquo; (Season 18, Episode 10) and discuss the upsetting crimes of pedophile teacher Pamela Joan Rogers. Plus, they interview the delightful Sarah Wynter.&nbsp;
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/boy-17-shot-dead-in-bronx-public-housing-development/">CBS News 1</a> <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jail-for-teacher-in-sex-case/">CBS News 2</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/teen-charged-shooting-death-friend-bronx/719256/">NBC New York</a> <a href="https://abc7ny.com/post/fatal-shooting-of-bronx-teen-appears-accidental;-suspect-charged/1347216/">ABC 7 New York</a> <a href="https://ny1.com/nyc/bronx/news/2016/05/20/19-year-old-faces-murder-charges-in-connection-with-fatal-shooting-of-teen-in-bronx">Spectrum News New York 1</a> <a href="https://www.nydailynews.com/2016/05/21/grieving-mom-of-bronx-teen-killed-in-bedroom-struggles-to-make-sense-of-fatal-shooting-pal-charged-with-manslaughter/">New York Daily News 1</a> <a href="https://www.nydailynews.com/2016/05/21/pal-who-killed-bronx-teen-in-bed-remains-behind-bars-awaiting-manslaughter-arraignment/">New York Daily News 2</a> <a href="https://sor.tbi.tn.gov/details/00396311">Tennessee Sex Offender Registry</a> <a href="https://www.tncourts.gov/sites/default/files/OPINIONS/TCA/PDF/104/Pamela%20Turner%20v%20TN%20Board%20of%20Prob%20and%20Parole%20OPN.pdf">The Court Of Appeals Of Tennessee At Nashville</a> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna8925268">NBC News</a> <a href="https://nypost.com/2005/02/13/inside-her-affair-with-student-13/">New York Post</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.healthline.com/health/narcissistic-victim-syndrome">12 Signs of Narcissistic Abuse Syndrome (and How to Get Help)</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Angels&rdquo; (Season 4, Episode 6).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Motherly Love w/ Sarah Wynter

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Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Venom” (Season 7, Episode 18), investigate the historic Raymond Levi Cobb case, and chat with the legendary Joe Grifasi.

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
Office of the Solicitor General - U.S. Department of Justice
Vanishing Act: The Hunt for Margaret and Cory Ray
Wikipedia - Texas v. Cobb

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
DSA-LA Voter Guide

Next week’s episode will be “Motherly Love” (Season 18, Episode 10).

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode &ldquo;Venom&rdquo; (Season 7, Episode 18), investigate the historic Raymond Levi Cobb case, and chat with the legendary Joe Grifasi.
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-mar-02-na-death2-story.html">Los Angeles Times</a> <a href="https://www.justice.gov/osg/brief/texas-v-cobb-amicus-merits">Office of the Solicitor General - U.S. Department of Justice</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvFXFQrdgNw">Vanishing Act: The Hunt for Margaret and Cory Ray</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Cobb">Wikipedia - Texas v. Cobb</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://voterguide.dsa-la.org/">DSA-LA Voter Guide</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Motherly Love&rdquo; (Season 18, Episode 10).
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Venom w/ Joe Grifasi

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This week, Kara and Liza recap the episode “Bound” (Season 5, Episode 23) and discuss two different murderers - Dorothea Puente (a.k.a. "The Death House Landlady") and Charles Cullen (a.k.a. "The Killer Nurse")

SOURCES:
World’s Most Evil Killers
CNN
The New York Times

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
Capturing the Killer Nurse

Next week’s episode will be “Venom" (Season 7, Episode 18). 

Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu

This week, Kara and Liza recap the episode &ldquo;Bound&rdquo; (Season 5, Episode 23) and discuss two different murderers - Dorothea Puente (a.k.a. "The Death House Landlady") and Charles Cullen (a.k.a. "The Killer Nurse")
SOURCES: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch/playback/vod/_/2fd65c77-a5be-312e-a501-5f5ff5dd92a0">World&rsquo;s Most Evil Killers</a> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/02/killer.nurse/index.html">CNN</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/29/nyregion/death-night-shift-16-years-dozens-bodies-through-gaps-system-nurse-left-trail.html">The New York Times</a>
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81512108">Capturing the Killer Nurse</a>
Next week&rsquo;s episode will be &ldquo;Venom" (Season 7, Episode 18).&nbsp;
Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu">https://bit.ly/3yb7hqu</a>

Bound

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