On this episode, Kara and Liza break down “Alien” (Season 7, Episode 11), discuss the infuriating Sharon Bottoms Mattes case, and talk to the electric Amy Pietz (Caroline in the City, The Office). 

SOURCES:

Los Angeles Times

The Advocate

The Washington Post

The New York Times 1

The New York Times 2

National Center for State Courts

www.jmichaelbone.com

Psych Central

www.pvalaw.com

Stop Abuse Campaign

Wikipedia - Richard A. Gardner

The Leadership Council

Foundation for Child Victims of the Family Courts

Fathers For Equal Rights

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

A Court Ordered Siblings to a Reunification Camp With Their Estranged Father. The Children Say It Was Abusive.

https://www.propublica.org/article/family-reunification-camps-kids-allege-more-abuse

Next week’s episode will be “Privilege” (Season 4, Episode 17).

On this episode, Kara and Liza break down “Alien” (Season 7, Episode 11), discuss the infuriating Sharon Bottoms Mattes case, and talk to the electric Amy Pietz (Caroline in the City, The Office). SOURCES:<a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-jan-02-me-twodads2-story.html">Los Angeles Times</a><a href="https://www.advocate.com/news/2004/07/30/lesbian-moms-oregon-file-suit-against-catholic-school-13257">The Advocate</a><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/sharon-bottoms-mattes-who-lost-gay-rights-custody-battle-to-her-mother-dies-at-48/2019/02/16/6aeb645a-3205-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html">The Washington Post</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/obituaries/sharon-mattes-dead.html?searchResultPosition=1">The New York Times 1</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/09/nyregion/richard-gardner-72-dies-cast-doubt-on-abuse-claims.html">The New York Times 2</a><a href="https://www.ncsc.org/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/42152/parental_alienation_Lewis.pdf">National Center for State Courts</a><a href="https://www.jmichaelbone.com/">www.jmichaelbone.com</a><a href="https://psychcentral.com/blog/what-is-parental-alienation-syndrome-pas#5">Psych Central</a><a href="https://www.pvalaw.com/five-signs-of-parental-alienation.html">www.pvalaw.com</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvVT7tWNDFo&amp;ab_channel=StopAbuseCampaign">Stop Abuse Campaign</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Gardner">Wikipedia - Richard A. Gardner</a><a href="http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/dallam/2.html">The Leadership Council</a><a href="https://fcvfc.org/2022/11/14/richard-gardner-father-of-parental-alienation-in-his-own-words/">Foundation for Child Victims of the Family Courts</a><a href="https://www.fathers4kids.com/issues/parenting/parent-alienation-syndrome">Fathers For Equal Rights</a>WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:A Court Ordered Siblings to a Reunification Camp With Their Estranged Father. The Children Say It Was Abusive.<a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/family-reunification-camps-kids-allege-more-abuse">https://www.propublica.org/article/family-reunification-camps-kids-allege-more-abuse</a>Next week’s episode will be “Privilege” (Season 4, Episode 17).

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Alien w/ Amy Pietz

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/c9447e1b-fc65-4013-a3ec-b27700716664/transcript

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