If you’re walking through something heavy right now—grief, disappointment, or just a season that feels hard—this conversation is for you. 

Today, I’m talking with Kirby Kelly about what it really looks like to hold onto hope when life doesn’t make sense. We dive into the power of lament, why your emotions matter to God, and how to anchor your hope in something deeper than your circumstances. Kirby shares her personal story and gives us practical ways to shift our perspective and trust God in the middle of it all. If you need encouragement today, this one is for you!

And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!

Xo,

Donna

Key Takeaways

[0:01:04] Introducing Guest Author Kirby Kelly

[0:04:12] From Family Chaos to Grieving with Hope

[0:09:54] Lament as a Pathway to Hope

[0:14:56] Four Pillars of Biblical Hope



The 4 Pillars of Hope:

God’s Promises

Cling to what He has already spoken—especially through Scripture

God’s Patterns

Look back and remember how He has been faithful before

God’s Personhood

Anchor yourself in who God is—not what you’re feeling

God’s Presence

You are never walking through anything alone.

 

Donna’s Resources:

Order a copy of my latest book - 

Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret. 

 

It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon. 

 

If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.

 

It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.

Connect with Kirby:Website: kirby-kelly.com YouTube: @kirbyisaboss

Instagram: @kirbyisaboss 

Podcast: Bought + Beloved

 

Let’s Connect:

Instagram: @donnaajones    

Website: www.donnajones.org    

Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/   

If you&rsquo;re walking through something heavy right now&mdash;grief, disappointment, or just a season that feels hard&mdash;this conversation is for you.&nbsp;
Today, I&rsquo;m talking with <a href="https://kirby-kelly.com/about-me">Kirby Kelly</a> about what it really looks like to hold onto hope when life doesn&rsquo;t make sense. We dive into the power of lament, why your emotions matter to God, and how to anchor your hope in something deeper than your circumstances. Kirby shares her personal story and gives us practical ways to shift our perspective and trust God in the middle of it all. If you need encouragement today, this one is for you!
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>. And don&rsquo;t forget to subscribe so you don&rsquo;t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways
[0:01:04] Introducing Guest Author Kirby Kelly
[0:04:12] From Family Chaos to Grieving with Hope
[0:09:54] Lament as a Pathway to Hope
[0:14:56] Four Pillars of Biblical Hope 
The 4 Pillars of Hope:
God&rsquo;s Promises
Cling to what He has already spoken&mdash;especially through Scripture
God&rsquo;s Patterns
Look back and remember how He has been faithful before
God&rsquo;s Personhood
Anchor yourself in who God is&mdash;not what you&rsquo;re feeling
God&rsquo;s Presence
You are never walking through anything alone.
&nbsp;
Donna&rsquo;s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.&nbsp;</a>
&nbsp;
It is available anywhere books are sold&ndash; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">here is the link on Amazon.&nbsp;</a>
&nbsp;
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you&rsquo;ll want a copy of my book, <a href="https://seekmeetinggod.com/">Seek: A Woman&rsquo;s Guide to Meeting God.</a>
&nbsp;
It&rsquo;s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.
Connect with Kirby:Website: <a href="http://kirby-kelly.com">kirby-kelly.com</a>&nbsp;YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/kirbyisaboss">@kirbyisaboss</a>
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kirbyisaboss/">@kirbyisaboss&nbsp;</a>
Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bought-beloved-with-kirby-kelly/id1451228314">Bought + Beloved</a>
&nbsp;
Let&rsquo;s Connect:
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Website:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.donnajones.org">www.donnajones.org</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Donna&rsquo;s speaking schedule:&nbsp;<a href="https://donnajones.org/events/">https://donnajones.org/events/</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;

If you’ve ever had a conversation where you’ve walked away thinking, “Wow! That was just what I needed”, you know you felt encouraged, learned a thing or two, laughed, and maybe even felt a bit challenged.

Author, national speaker, and pastor’s wife, Donna Jones provides life-giving “that’s just what I needed” conversations to help you know, love, and follow God in the midst of real-life--the one with daily demands and crazy cultural chaos. Sometimes she’ll welcome a guest we can learn from; sometimes the conversation will be just her and you.

 But, Donna’s hope is that each conversation will be exactly what you need.

That's Just What I Needed Podcast

If you’ve ever had a conversation where you’ve walked away thinking, “Wow! That was just what I needed”, you know you felt encouraged, learned a thing or two, laughed, and maybe even felt a bit challenged. Author, national speaker, and pastor’s wife, Donna Jones provides life-giving “that’s just what I needed” conversations to help you know, love, and follow God in the midst of real-life--the one with daily demands and crazy cultural chaos. Sometimes she’ll welcome a guest we can learn from; sometimes the conversation will be just her and you. But, Donna’s hope is that each conversation will be exactly what you need.

If you&rsquo;ve ever had a conversation where you&rsquo;ve walked away thinking, &ldquo;Wow! That was just what I needed&rdquo;, you know you felt encouraged, learned a thing or two, laughed, and maybe even felt a bit challenged. Author, national speaker, and pastor&rsquo;s wife, Donna Jones provides life-giving &ldquo;that&rsquo;s just what I needed&rdquo; conversations to help you know, love, and follow God in the midst of real-life--the one with daily demands and crazy cultural chaos. Sometimes she&rsquo;ll welcome a guest we can learn from; sometimes the conversation will be just her and you. But, Donna&rsquo;s hope is that each conversation will be exactly what you need.

That's Just What I Needed

Finding Hope When Life Feels Heavy with Kirby Kelly

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/89d7359a-6079-4f49-ba3b-b425013e4485/transcript

Hey friend,

If you’ve ever wondered how to teach your kids about God in a way that actually sticks, this episode is for you. 

On today’s episode, I sit down with Amanda K. Jass about how to make faith simple, engaging, and meaningful for kids without it feeling like a checklist. 

We dive into: 
 Why your story matters 
How to have deeper conversations with your kids
 How spiritual growth often happens for us as parents right alongside them. 

This conversation will encourage you, equip you, and remind you that you don’t have to do this perfectly; you just have to start. 

Trust me, this one will meet you right where you are.

And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!

Xo,

Donna

 

Key Takeaways
[0:03:03] A Winding Road into Kids’ Ministry and Writing

[0:05:56] Childhood Sparks as Clues to Your Calling

[0:12:19] A Storm, a Forest, and a 30-Day Faith Adventure

[0:18:20] Turning Bedtime Stories into Heart-Level Conversations

[0:22:37] Making Space for Kids’ Big Questions About God



Donna’s Resources:

Order a copy of my latest book - 

Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret. 

It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon. 

 

If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.

It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.

 

Connect with Amanda 
Adventures in the Friendly Forest by Amanda K. Jass
Amanda’s website: amandakjass.com
Follow Amanda on Instagram: @amandakjass

Let’s Connect:

Instagram: @donnaajones    

Website: www.donnajones.org    

Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/   

Hey friend,
If you&rsquo;ve ever wondered how to teach your kids about God in a way that actually sticks, this episode is for you.&nbsp;
On today&rsquo;s episode, I sit down with Amanda K. Jass about how to make faith simple, engaging, and meaningful for kids without it feeling like a checklist.&nbsp;
We dive into:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">&nbsp;Why your story matters&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">How to have deeper conversations with your kids</li>
<li aria-level="1">&nbsp;How spiritual growth often happens for us as parents right alongside them.&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
This conversation will encourage you, equip you, and remind you that you don&rsquo;t have to do this perfectly; you just have to start.&nbsp;
Trust me, this one will meet you right where you are.
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>. And don&rsquo;t forget to subscribe so you don&rsquo;t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
&nbsp;
Key Takeaways [0:03:03] A Winding Road into Kids&rsquo; Ministry and Writing
[0:05:56] Childhood Sparks as Clues to Your Calling
[0:12:19] A Storm, a Forest, and a 30-Day Faith Adventure
[0:18:20] Turning Bedtime Stories into Heart-Level Conversations
[0:22:37] Making Space for Kids&rsquo; Big Questions About God 
Donna&rsquo;s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.&nbsp;</a>
It is available anywhere books are sold&ndash;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">here is the link on Amazon.&nbsp;</a>
&nbsp;
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you&rsquo;ll want a copy of my book, <a href="https://seekmeetinggod.com/">Seek: A Woman&rsquo;s Guide to Meeting God.</a>
It&rsquo;s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.
&nbsp;
Connect with Amanda&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/753263/adventures-in-the-friendly-forest-by-amanda-jass-illustrated-by-katya-longhi/">Adventures in the Friendly Forest</a> by <a href="https://amandakjass.com/">Amanda K. Jass</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Amanda&rsquo;s website: <a href="http://amandakjass.com">amandakjass.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Follow Amanda on Instagram: @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/amandakjass/">amandakjass</a></li>
</ul>
Let&rsquo;s Connect:
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Website:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.donnajones.org">www.donnajones.org</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Donna&rsquo;s speaking schedule:&nbsp;<a href="https://donnajones.org/events/">https://donnajones.org/events/</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;

Raising Kids Who Love God with Amanda K. Jass

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In this episode, I talk with Cara Shine about her powerful journey from growing up Jewish with painful misconceptions about Christians to encountering the love of Jesus through the quiet faithfulness of two “good Christians” at her school. During the terrifying DC sniper attacks, one hallway prayer changed everything. 

Cara shares how kindness, presence, and Scripture softened her heart and opened the door to faith in Jesus. This conversation is a beautiful reminder that the way we represent Christ matters deeply. If you’ve ever wondered whether your quiet faithfulness makes a difference, this episode will encourage you more than you know.

I’d love to have you join me at Encounter, a half-day retreat on Saturday, March 21st, at 9 AM at Crossline Church. It’s open to the public, and I would love the chance to meet you there.

You can find all the details at  crosslinechurch.com/events 

And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!

Xo,

Donna

 

Key Takeaways
[0:03:16] Jewish Girl on a Christian School Bus: Wounds That Last

[0:06:00] From Terror to Trust: DC Snipers and a School Full of “Good Christians.”

[0:14:12] The Hallway Prayer: One Moment, One Prayer, Total Peace

[0:20:12] Walking into Church for the First Time: “Welcome Everyone” Changes Everything

[0:31:39] “Here I Am” and What Good Christians Actually Do

 

Donna’s Resources:

Order a copy of my latest book - 

Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret. 

 

It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon. 

 

If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.

It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.


Connect with Cara Shine
Website:CaraShine.com


Instagram: @carashineauthor 



You can order The Hallway Miracle on Amazon or through your favorite local bookstore.

Be sure to sign up for her weekly emails too—they’re a beautiful source of encouragement and spiritual direction.


Connect with Donna 

Instagram: @donnaajones    

 

Website: www.donnajones.org    


Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/   

In this episode, I talk with Cara Shine about her powerful journey from growing up Jewish with painful misconceptions about Christians to encountering the love of Jesus through the quiet faithfulness of two &ldquo;good Christians&rdquo; at her school. During the terrifying DC sniper attacks, one hallway prayer changed everything.&nbsp;
Cara shares how kindness, presence, and Scripture softened her heart and opened the door to faith in Jesus. This conversation is a beautiful reminder that the way we represent Christ matters deeply. If you&rsquo;ve ever wondered whether your quiet faithfulness makes a difference, this episode will encourage you more than you know.
I&rsquo;d love to have you join me at Encounter, a half-day retreat on Saturday, March 21st, at 9 AM at <a href="https://www.crosslinechurch.com/">Crossline Church</a>. It&rsquo;s open to the public, and I would love the chance to meet you there.
You can find all the details at&nbsp; crosslinechurch.com/events&nbsp;
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>. And don&rsquo;t forget to subscribe so you don&rsquo;t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
&nbsp;
Key Takeaways [0:03:16] Jewish Girl on a Christian School Bus: Wounds That Last
[0:06:00] From Terror to Trust: DC Snipers and a School Full of &ldquo;Good Christians.&rdquo;
[0:14:12] The Hallway Prayer: One Moment, One Prayer, Total Peace
[0:20:12] Walking into Church for the First Time: &ldquo;Welcome Everyone&rdquo; Changes Everything
[0:31:39] &ldquo;Here I Am&rdquo; and What Good Christians Actually Do
&nbsp;
Donna&rsquo;s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.&nbsp;</a>
&nbsp;
It is available anywhere books are sold&ndash; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">here is the link on Amazon.&nbsp;</a>
&nbsp;
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you&rsquo;ll want a copy of my book, <a href="https://seekmeetinggod.com/">Seek: A Woman&rsquo;s Guide to Meeting God.</a>
It&rsquo;s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.
 Connect with Cara Shine
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Website: <a href="http://carashine.com">CaraShine.com </a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Instagram: @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/carashineauthor/">carashineauthor </a></li>
</ul>
You can order <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hallway-Miracle-Prayer-Opened-Jewish/dp/1963377974/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1ZHNB24XAPHY1&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dhJxa1dhdwLP5bs3nvYJpA.TMj0T8eTJcj56hUn7aeo3ZWO-lTqQpxtt4pdpSw7fDI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+hallway+miracle+by+cara+shine&amp;qid=1773757906&amp;sprefix=Hallway+mirac%2Caps%2C309&amp;sr=8-1">The Hallway Miracle on Amazon </a>or through your favorite local bookstore. Be sure to sign up for her weekly emails too&mdash;they&rsquo;re a beautiful source of encouragement and spiritual direction.
 Connect with Donna&nbsp;
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;
Website: <a href="http://www.donnajones.org">www.donnajones.org</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 Donna&rsquo;s speaking schedule: <a href="https://donnajones.org/events/">https://donnajones.org/events/</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;

Are You a “Good Christian”? How Small Acts Led a Jewish Woman to Jesus with Cara Shine

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In this episode, I talk with Gem Fadling, co-founder of Unhurried Living, about cultivating a deeper relationship with Jesus in the middle of a busy, distracted world. This conversation opened my heart and challenged me in the best possible way! 

Instead of striving to produce spiritual “fruit,” Gem explains that Jesus invites us to simply remain connected to Him, as a branch to the vine in John 15. Through practices like silence, solitude, and intentional time with God, we can learn to live from a place of presence rather than hurry. 

Full disclosure: after my interview with Gem, I practiced what she suggested and-WOW!!!!! I experienced God’s refreshing peace and perspective in a way I want you to experience, too.

This conversation is a refreshing reminder that intimacy with Jesus doesn’t come from doing more—but from slowing down enough to simply be with Him.

And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!

Xo,

Donna

Donna’s Resources:

Order a copy of my latest book - 

Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret. 

It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon. 

If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.

It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.

Connect with Gem Fadling

You can find Gem and all of her resources at:
Website:unhurriedliving.com
Podcast:Unhurried Living Podcast
Instagram:@unhurriedliving

Be sure to sign up for their weekly emails too—they’re a beautiful source of encouragement and spiritual direction.

Connect with Donna 

Instagram: @donnaajones    

 

Website: www.donnajones.org    


Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/

In this episode, I talk with Gem Fadling, co-founder of Unhurried Living, about cultivating a deeper relationship with Jesus in the middle of a busy, distracted world. This conversation opened my heart and challenged me in the best possible way!&nbsp;
Instead of striving to produce spiritual &ldquo;fruit,&rdquo; Gem explains that Jesus invites us to simply remain connected to Him, as a branch to the vine in John 15. Through practices like silence, solitude, and intentional time with God, we can learn to live from a place of presence rather than hurry.&nbsp;
Full disclosure: after my interview with Gem, I practiced what she suggested and-WOW!!!!! I experienced God&rsquo;s refreshing peace and perspective in a way I want you to experience, too.
This conversation is a refreshing reminder that intimacy with Jesus doesn&rsquo;t come from doing more&mdash;but from slowing down enough to simply be with Him.
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>. And don&rsquo;t forget to subscribe so you don&rsquo;t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Donna&rsquo;s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.&nbsp;</a>
It is available anywhere books are sold&ndash;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Conflict-Peaceful-Life-Communicating/dp/1400243998">here is the link on Amazon.&nbsp;</a>
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you&rsquo;ll want a copy of my book,&nbsp;<a href="https://seekmeetinggod.com/">Seek: A Woman&rsquo;s Guide to Meeting God.</a>
It&rsquo;s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their confidence in their faith.
Connect with Gem Fadling
You can find Gem and all of her resources at:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Website: <a href="http://unhurriedliving.com">unhurriedliving.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unhurried-living-helping-christians-rest-deeper-lead/id1225783619">Unhurried Living Podcast</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unhurriedliving/?hl=en">@unhurriedliving</a></li>
</ul>
Be sure to sign up for their weekly emails too&mdash;they&rsquo;re a beautiful source of encouragement and spiritual direction.
Connect with Donna&nbsp;
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/donnaajones/?hl=en">@donnaajones</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&nbsp;
Website: <a href="http://www.donnajones.org">www.donnajones.org</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 Donna&rsquo;s speaking schedule: <a href="https://donnajones.org/events/">https://donnajones.org/events/</a>

Why Slowing Down Might Be the Key to Spiritual Growth

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