This week on Text Me Back!, condiment fanatic hosts Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, ketch-up for the first time in a long time. Meagan fills us in on the details of which long and boring film she watched that will likely get an Oscar and Lindy had a close encounter with a revenant relative. Then, Doug Lindner, a VIP from Swamp Town, joins us as we venture into getting serious about democracy and the potentially growing power of the Supreme Court (see: Worst People of 2024). And, Lindy updates us on a recent alien discovery. Maybe.

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