What's up?

What's up?

Everybody?

Everybody?

Welcome into a Monday edition of Texans All Access, A special one because the Texans Invitational Texans Tournament today was a great day. You know, my man Mark Vandermiirer was out on the links hitting him and I know he hit him pretty well.

Welcome into a Monday edition of Texans All Access, A special one because the Texans Invitational Texans Tournament today was a great day. You know, my man Mark Vandermiirer was out on the links hitting him and I know he hit him pretty well.

So it's a big day for the Texans. Appreciate you guys being here on.

So it's a big day for the Texans. Appreciate you guys being here on.

John Harris, your host for this evening, Mark, I know all of us Houstonians got kicked into teeth last night, but how.

John Harris, your host for this evening, Mark, I know all of us Houstonians got kicked into teeth last night, but how.

You feeling well?

You feeling well?

First, you mentioned the Texans Charity Classic presented by BMW, and I got to say that I've played him in all of them, Johnny, And this started back in two thousand and three. My goodness, but they've raised This was a record. They raised over five hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the Houston Texans Foundation in this year's tournament, and since the inception, they've raised over fifty million for the Houston Texans Foundation.

First, you mentioned the Texans Charity Classic presented by BMW, and I got to say that I've played him in all of them, Johnny, And this started back in two thousand and three. My goodness, but they've raised This was a record. They raised over five hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the Houston Texans Foundation in this year's tournament, and since the inception, they've raised over fifty million for the Houston Texans Foundation.

So it is awesome. I mean, in general, it is awesome. This is there.

So it is awesome. I mean, in general, it is awesome. This is there.

I don't know if this is the biggest fundraiser I no season premiere, what used to be the kickoff lunch generates a lot as well, but it's just huge, and you know, huge in the flag football for girls and all that right now.

I don't know if this is the biggest fundraiser I no season premiere, what used to be the kickoff lunch generates a lot as well, but it's just huge, and you know, huge in the flag football for girls and all that right now.

And other things that the foundation does.

And other things that the foundation does.

That's not the only thing, but it's just great to be involved in it and see everybody out there.

That's not the only thing, but it's just great to be involved in it and see everybody out there.

So that's cool.

So that's cool.

And what else is cool is you know, I was in the building this morning and they're doing a little bit more every week, aren't they. In this ramp up period off season conditioning. OTAs will be out there before you know it. Can't wait to report on some things we see. Nothing strategic, of course, but man, I'm so fired up because you could just feel it in the building, and I wish everybody could experience this. You feel it in the building that it's coming, the season's coming. I mean they're here, they're working out, they're doing their stuff, and we're not getting to see a lot of that, and by a lot, I mean any of it, but we will at some point, so that'll be cool.

And what else is cool is you know, I was in the building this morning and they're doing a little bit more every week, aren't they. In this ramp up period off season conditioning. OTAs will be out there before you know it. Can't wait to report on some things we see. Nothing strategic, of course, but man, I'm so fired up because you could just feel it in the building, and I wish everybody could experience this. You feel it in the building that it's coming, the season's coming. I mean they're here, they're working out, they're doing their stuff, and we're not getting to see a lot of that, and by a lot, I mean any of it, but we will at some point, so that'll be cool.

Yeah, Yeah, it definitely will be cool. It's I'm trying to do the math.

Yeah, Yeah, it definitely will be cool. It's I'm trying to do the math.

It's May fifth today, O Sinko to Mayo, Happy sinking to my everybody, to those who celebrate so June July, you're talking two months and you're into July, and then god knows when we're gonna start when.

It's May fifth today, O Sinko to Mayo, Happy sinking to my everybody, to those who celebrate so June July, you're talking two months and you're into July, and then god knows when we're gonna start when.

Now we're not going to Hall of Fame game. I saw that.

Now we're not going to Hall of Fame game. I saw that.

I saw the two teams that are in the Hall of Fame game. I want to say the Chargers are one of them.

I saw the two teams that are in the Hall of Fame game. I want to say the Chargers are one of them.

We're not. And that's the most important thing.

We're not. And that's the most important thing.

Just as far as timing goes, we won't be starting ten days before everybody else as we did last year. I think we started July seventeenth last year. So let's say it's the twenty fifth ish, talking about two months and twenty days, you know, eighty some days. That's not that much to get to the start of training camp. Man, So that's I mean, it's I don't want to say it's almost here, but two months and twenty days gets here pretty quickly before you know it. And of course we've got OTA's and mini camps coming up that'll satiate us all. We'll have our Texas Media Day at some point, hopefully in June, which we'll have a lot of content comfort and then it's a desert for a few weeks, and then before you know it, we're in training camp and we're often running on the twenty twenty five season and this sucker's going.

Just as far as timing goes, we won't be starting ten days before everybody else as we did last year. I think we started July seventeenth last year. So let's say it's the twenty fifth ish, talking about two months and twenty days, you know, eighty some days. That's not that much to get to the start of training camp. Man, So that's I mean, it's I don't want to say it's almost here, but two months and twenty days gets here pretty quickly before you know it. And of course we've got OTA's and mini camps coming up that'll satiate us all. We'll have our Texas Media Day at some point, hopefully in June, which we'll have a lot of content comfort and then it's a desert for a few weeks, and then before you know it, we're in training camp and we're often running on the twenty twenty five season and this sucker's going.

Yeah. Two things about that.

Yeah. Two things about that.

First of all, Hall of Fame game is Detroit and the Chargers. Yes, and this is good because the Texans play the Chargers, and you want them to be all worn out by the Hall of Fame game by the time you see them whenever. That is yeah, because I do think that there's a wear and tear effect that the team endured last year based on starting camp early. We've talked about that many times, especially since you went thirteen consecutive weeks without a buye and it just got to be you know, every team goes through it, the injuries, limping along, and you know, it's funny when another team loses a guy you don't, I mean you think something of it, yet you're not living with them and through them, and it's not your team. But when we suffer any kind of injury, and it's usually not just one and it could be to any kind of player, you're thinking, oh, now you got to go this and you know you and I know all the little nuances of what it effects special teams wise, and now this guy's got to be a gunner. Because of that, it doesn't have to be a major player in order to have an effect on your team.

First of all, Hall of Fame game is Detroit and the Chargers. Yes, and this is good because the Texans play the Chargers, and you want them to be all worn out by the Hall of Fame game by the time you see them whenever. That is yeah, because I do think that there's a wear and tear effect that the team endured last year based on starting camp early. We've talked about that many times, especially since you went thirteen consecutive weeks without a buye and it just got to be you know, every team goes through it, the injuries, limping along, and you know, it's funny when another team loses a guy you don't, I mean you think something of it, yet you're not living with them and through them, and it's not your team. But when we suffer any kind of injury, and it's usually not just one and it could be to any kind of player, you're thinking, oh, now you got to go this and you know you and I know all the little nuances of what it effects special teams wise, and now this guy's got to be a gunner. Because of that, it doesn't have to be a major player in order to have an effect on your team.

Anyway.

Anyway.

The other thing about this is and you reciting things about the calendar and where we're headed here with the Rockets losing.

The other thing about this is and you reciting things about the calendar and where we're headed here with the Rockets losing.

For the sports fan in Houston, it's oh, okay, okay, what do I gotta know? I got the astros. Okay, look that I.

For the sports fan in Houston, it's oh, okay, okay, what do I gotta know? I got the astros. Okay, look that I.

Looked at the standings in Major League Baseball. I don't do this every day. I used to do it every day, but I don't do it every day. And I'm thinking, all right, they're you know, five hundred ish, they're right in there. You know they have a chance if they start playing really well to do something. But you know, just be in the mix and see what you can do. Their division does not look insurmountable. A lot of divisions don't look insurmountable in Major League Baseball.

Looked at the standings in Major League Baseball. I don't do this every day. I used to do it every day, but I don't do it every day. And I'm thinking, all right, they're you know, five hundred ish, they're right in there. You know they have a chance if they start playing really well to do something. But you know, just be in the mix and see what you can do. Their division does not look insurmountable. A lot of divisions don't look insurmountable in Major League Baseball.

But the point is this, we're ready for football now. You know.

But the point is this, we're ready for football now. You know.

It was great paying attention to the NBA playoffs, and I still will. I love basketball and I love the playoffs. But to have the Rockets out of it, the Houston sports fans like, let's go, oh, come on, training camp, let's have it.

It was great paying attention to the NBA playoffs, and I still will. I love basketball and I love the playoffs. But to have the Rockets out of it, the Houston sports fans like, let's go, oh, come on, training camp, let's have it.

Yeah, no doubt, So let's discuss because I know a lot of people like, well, you guys are Texans. No, we both had we both had radio shows in the city of Houston in which we were full time radio hosts and we had to talk about all the sports. And we've been around here long enough and people that know us know that we are sports fans and we're definitely fans of Houstonian teams. So I'm gonna make this question as easy and yet as difficult as possible. Your thoughts of what you saw last night, Well, I think there.

Yeah, no doubt, So let's discuss because I know a lot of people like, well, you guys are Texans. No, we both had we both had radio shows in the city of Houston in which we were full time radio hosts and we had to talk about all the sports. And we've been around here long enough and people that know us know that we are sports fans and we're definitely fans of Houstonian teams. So I'm gonna make this question as easy and yet as difficult as possible. Your thoughts of what you saw last night, Well, I think there.

Are a lot of Texans comparisons and analogies here, and unfortunately for the Rockets. You know, the Texans were able under Jamico Ryans to get to the second round in their sport. Each of these sports has four rounds, right, and I know with the top seed in the NFL you get to buy.

Are a lot of Texans comparisons and analogies here, and unfortunately for the Rockets. You know, the Texans were able under Jamico Ryans to get to the second round in their sport. Each of these sports has four rounds, right, and I know with the top seed in the NFL you get to buy.

But you know what I'm saying here, so you're able to get to.

But you know what I'm saying here, so you're able to get to.

That divisional round of the NFL, and the Rockets weren't able to get to the Conference semis, which I thought was I'm not going to say minimal for them because it's hard.

That divisional round of the NFL, and the Rockets weren't able to get to the Conference semis, which I thought was I'm not going to say minimal for them because it's hard.

We see it. It's hard, and we'll go through this.

We see it. It's hard, and we'll go through this.

But there are a lot of different analogies and comparisons, and we'll go through some of them, but by and large, you know, I'm watching Game seven last night and I thought one thing, it's too bad for the Rockets that and I know they were the two seed and Golden State had to go through a playoff, but it's still Golden State. I'm sitting there watching the game in the fourth quarter, I'm thinking, you know what they have on Golden State's team. They still have one of the greatest players to ever play this game. And he's sitting there making plays, not sitting. He doesn't sit, he plays. And one thing that jumped out to me was this is the team with three pointers galore and all that other stuff. And they really mega popularized the three in a way that you know, we'd never seen before in the teams. But in the fourth quarter when they needed something done, you know, they needed first downs to put a football analogy on it, they needed to move the ball.

But there are a lot of different analogies and comparisons, and we'll go through some of them, but by and large, you know, I'm watching Game seven last night and I thought one thing, it's too bad for the Rockets that and I know they were the two seed and Golden State had to go through a playoff, but it's still Golden State. I'm sitting there watching the game in the fourth quarter, I'm thinking, you know what they have on Golden State's team. They still have one of the greatest players to ever play this game. And he's sitting there making plays, not sitting. He doesn't sit, he plays. And one thing that jumped out to me was this is the team with three pointers galore and all that other stuff. And they really mega popularized the three in a way that you know, we'd never seen before in the teams. But in the fourth quarter when they needed something done, you know, they needed first downs to put a football analogy on it, they needed to move the ball.

They he went to the basket.

They he went to the basket.

You know, oh, you're gonna wrestle me and disable my ability to shoot the three. I'm going right to the rack and blow him by. You him going to the rack, he had two or three layups that were really key. When they needed to keep that scoreboard total going, they needed to up the eddy, you know, just get more points.

You know, oh, you're gonna wrestle me and disable my ability to shoot the three. I'm going right to the rack and blow him by. You him going to the rack, he had two or three layups that were really key. When they needed to keep that scoreboard total going, they needed to up the eddy, you know, just get more points.

Anything helps here.

Anything helps here.

They knew that, and I thought, you know, with all the talk about analytics and the threes and everything when Toronto won the title. Remember when Toronto won the title, I thought, hmm, you're using some mid range here because they know, like sometimes you just need to score.

They knew that, and I thought, you know, with all the talk about analytics and the threes and everything when Toronto won the title. Remember when Toronto won the title, I thought, hmm, you're using some mid range here because they know, like sometimes you just need to score.

You just need a bucket. It doesn't matter if it's a three or a two.

You just need a bucket. It doesn't matter if it's a three or a two.

Screw the analytics at that point, because you got to be able to just get the ball in the basket and answer whatever threat you're receiving on the other end. So I thought Golden State did that really well. And the Rockets, you know what the football equivalent is for them, they don't have a quarterback. They just you know, Van Vliet great, but they disabled him last night.

Screw the analytics at that point, because you got to be able to just get the ball in the basket and answer whatever threat you're receiving on the other end. So I thought Golden State did that really well. And the Rockets, you know what the football equivalent is for them, they don't have a quarterback. They just you know, Van Vliet great, but they disabled him last night.

They just got to him last night.

They just got to him last night.

And when I say great, I know it's been hot and cold in this series and at times good in times not where you want it to be.

And when I say great, I know it's been hot and cold in this series and at times good in times not where you want it to be.

They don't have the quarterback.

They don't have the quarterback.

They don't have the guy, and you need the guy, even if the guy, you know, is not like CJ. Stroud He's not a top three guy in the league yet and we want him to be.

They don't have the guy, and you need the guy, even if the guy, you know, is not like CJ. Stroud He's not a top three guy in the league yet and we want him to be.

But he's your guy.

But he's your guy.

And what happened last year in the playoffs when you needed to make a play, he made a play.

And what happened last year in the playoffs when you needed to make a play, he made a play.

He made two huge plays.

He made two huge plays.

He had to play to x and the one we talk about where he ran it in a field goal range, and those two scores late in the first half really took that game to a different place for the Texans, and I thought, that's what the Rockets are lacking. Somebody just kind of take over when you need it, when you need him to.

He had to play to x and the one we talk about where he ran it in a field goal range, and those two scores late in the first half really took that game to a different place for the Texans, and I thought, that's what the Rockets are lacking. Somebody just kind of take over when you need it, when you need him to.

It's a five on five game. You have to have that, don't you think.

It's a five on five game. You have to have that, don't you think.

I thought there were Yeah, you're dead on that.

I thought there were Yeah, you're dead on that.

I feel like that's lacking, Like, hey, guys, we need a basket immediately.

I feel like that's lacking, Like, hey, guys, we need a basket immediately.

Who gets the ball? Now?

Who gets the ball? Now?

Look, I think Aman Thompson's on his way to being one of the most exciting players in this league on a lot of different levels. But his offensive game is still I say dementary, but it's not not where it needs to be to be that guy you're talking about. I thought it was really frustrating for a team that could be so good defensively to have given up so many layups to Butler and to Steph Curry last night it was maddening. I mean, I think Steph had four or five layups in the second half, and like, wait a second, it was almost like they got to a point on the floor, like they were really all over him out by the three point range, and then it was like when he went inside the arc, they all just went okay, like almost stopped. And I'm watching the think, wa, wait a second, No, they should be beating him up like bad Boys Piston style when that dude goes inside.

Look, I think Aman Thompson's on his way to being one of the most exciting players in this league on a lot of different levels. But his offensive game is still I say dementary, but it's not not where it needs to be to be that guy you're talking about. I thought it was really frustrating for a team that could be so good defensively to have given up so many layups to Butler and to Steph Curry last night it was maddening. I mean, I think Steph had four or five layups in the second half, and like, wait a second, it was almost like they got to a point on the floor, like they were really all over him out by the three point range, and then it was like when he went inside the arc, they all just went okay, like almost stopped. And I'm watching the think, wa, wait a second, No, they should be beating him up like bad Boys Piston style when that dude goes inside.

And look, I know Steph is put together more than people know. And CJ. It's funny.

And look, I know Steph is put together more than people know. And CJ. It's funny.

CJ mentioned that when he was questioning about going to Game one and he talking about how he talked to Steph after the game, like he knows Steph. They had a long conversation when they first met, and so he's like, man, steps swollen and he's a big guy, but still you gotta you gotta pound him in a submission, like you gotta him not want to go in there. But the other aspect of it, too, for me, goes back to something I learned a long long time ago.

CJ mentioned that when he was questioning about going to Game one and he talking about how he talked to Steph after the game, like he knows Steph. They had a long conversation when they first met, and so he's like, man, steps swollen and he's a big guy, but still you gotta you gotta pound him in a submission, like you gotta him not want to go in there. But the other aspect of it, too, for me, goes back to something I learned a long long time ago.

I was ten years old.

I was ten years old.

Never forget I was ten years old, my dad was coaching basketball.

Never forget I was ten years old, my dad was coaching basketball.

And I remember them saying there was a game and.

And I remember them saying there was a game and.

I was kind of I was on the bench with my dad and this kid just was going off. Their best player is just he'd making a bucket here, bucket there.

I was kind of I was on the bench with my dad and this kid just was going off. Their best player is just he'd making a bucket here, bucket there.

And I kind of was like, why is he scoring so much?

And I kind of was like, why is he scoring so much?

Like?

Like?

I got really mad, and I remember my dad saying, what we want him to and I was like, what do you mean.

I got really mad, and I remember my dad saying, what we want him to and I was like, what do you mean.

I'll tell you later.

I'll tell you later.

Well, we end up winning the game, and I didn't understand it as a kid, I was like, what's going.

Well, we end up winning the game, and I didn't understand it as a kid, I was like, what's going.

On, daddy?

On, daddy?

Was We didn't mind that such and such hurt us. We didn't want everybody else to hurt us. And let Steph get fifty. I don't give a damn what he gets. Buddy, hell can't go for thirty three. They're in no way, shape or form, can Buddy. He'll go for thirty three against you in a game set situation. And he shot the lights out, Don't don't get me wrong. Like I knew the Rockets were in trouble when it was twenty to nineteen. There's four seconds left and he launches one from about forty and rips it, and I thought, oh boy, this is not good.

Was We didn't mind that such and such hurt us. We didn't want everybody else to hurt us. And let Steph get fifty. I don't give a damn what he gets. Buddy, hell can't go for thirty three. They're in no way, shape or form, can Buddy. He'll go for thirty three against you in a game set situation. And he shot the lights out, Don't don't get me wrong. Like I knew the Rockets were in trouble when it was twenty to nineteen. There's four seconds left and he launches one from about forty and rips it, and I thought, oh boy, this is not good.

But that thought of.

But that thought of.

Let the star be a star, Let the star get his, But man, you shut everybody else down. Let Jordan get forty five, but Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant aren't gonna add six.

Let the star be a star, Let the star get his, But man, you shut everybody else down. Let Jordan get forty five, but Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant aren't gonna add six.

You're gonna win that game.

You're gonna win that game.

And it wasn't until Jordan figured it out, like, hey, they all got to have twelve to fifteen. At least I'll get mine, But they gotta have twelve to fifteen each if we're gonna win. That's when the ball start turning the corner. Last night, if you were to let Steph get forty and Heal gets you know, five, you're much better shape.

And it wasn't until Jordan figured it out, like, hey, they all got to have twelve to fifteen. At least I'll get mine, But they gotta have twelve to fifteen each if we're gonna win. That's when the ball start turning the corner. Last night, if you were to let Steph get forty and Heal gets you know, five, you're much better shape.

And look, I know he's a catching shoot guy.

And look, I know he's a catching shoot guy.

I get all that, you know, but it just felt like they were chasing their own tail all night long. And does that come about because they don't have a lot of experience in the playoffs, Maybe that the guys they expected to step up Shanoon and Jalen didn't.

I get all that, you know, but it just felt like they were chasing their own tail all night long. And does that come about because they don't have a lot of experience in the playoffs, Maybe that the guys they expected to step up Shanoon and Jalen didn't.

Really.

Really.

They missed so many layups, I mean the number of times that miss layps, A number of times they'd missed an easy layup on a foul and one yep potential for three points and they'd missed two free throws and didn't get anything out of that possession.

They missed so many layups, I mean the number of times that miss layps, A number of times they'd missed an easy layup on a foul and one yep potential for three points and they'd missed two free throws and didn't get anything out of that possession.

It was maddening from.

It was maddening from.

That perspective to go kind of through that sort of situation watching that game last night. So the Rockets lose, and now we're talking about and I'm sure they're going to be talking about Durant Booker, Are they making a trade? Is this team good enough? Who do they have to move? Why didn't Jalen Green play?

That perspective to go kind of through that sort of situation watching that game last night. So the Rockets lose, and now we're talking about and I'm sure they're going to be talking about Durant Booker, Are they making a trade? Is this team good enough? Who do they have to move? Why didn't Jalen Green play?

Well? It's like, oh, I did not want to wake up Monday, especially after game Friday night.

Well? It's like, oh, I did not want to wake up Monday, especially after game Friday night.

Friday night was as fun a game watching the Rockets as I've had in years, and I'm sure a lot of Rockets can say that.

Friday night was as fun a game watching the Rockets as I've had in years, and I'm sure a lot of Rockets can say that.

That was awesome.

That was awesome.

And I just remembered it's still game seven back in Houston and Golden State's already beating them there before with this crew, relatively speaking, Stephan Draymond in particular, I thought, I just don't feel comfortable, and then when he hit that three at the end of the first quarter, I thought, this is going about the way that I thought it was going to.

And I just remembered it's still game seven back in Houston and Golden State's already beating them there before with this crew, relatively speaking, Stephan Draymond in particular, I thought, I just don't feel comfortable, and then when he hit that three at the end of the first quarter, I thought, this is going about the way that I thought it was going to.

You know, if you're not a Golden State fan, you probably don't like Draymond Green. Who likes Draymond Green, who's not a Golden State fan, But I respect the daylights out of Draymond Green for what he is.

You know, if you're not a Golden State fan, you probably don't like Draymond Green. Who likes Draymond Green, who's not a Golden State fan, But I respect the daylights out of Draymond Green for what he is.

Now, he's a hothead.

Now, he's a hothead.

We all know this. When he gets inside the lines. It's funny because I was thinking this. I was thinking, you know, certain guys and I'm not comparing his ease al Shire to Draymond Green, but there's a similarity here in that yeh, when they're between the lines, things sometimes happened where you're like, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.

We all know this. When he gets inside the lines. It's funny because I was thinking this. I was thinking, you know, certain guys and I'm not comparing his ease al Shire to Draymond Green, but there's a similarity here in that yeh, when they're between the lines, things sometimes happened where you're like, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.

Right with Raymond, you know the Golden State people.

Right with Raymond, you know the Golden State people.

There was one instance in the game last night where a butler was on the floor.

There was one instance in the game last night where a butler was on the floor.

A couple of guys are on the floor.

A couple of guys are on the floor.

Draymond wasn't in this, and legs were getting tangled and they called the foul on Steph because he pulled he pulled somebody down.

Draymond wasn't in this, and legs were getting tangled and they called the foul on Steph because he pulled he pulled somebody down.

It looked like he did.

It looked like he did.

Yeah, And I thought, oh, if Raymond Green is in that, there are legs flying and people getting kicked perhaps and he might be gone. He might be gone now, who knows. But I just think that certain guys have that I don't know, there's a wire and they just go nuts. And but it can be very good that edge is very good for your team. He's this is a multi champion player, and you could argue that he's as important to their legacy as any of the other players, as Steph as Klay Thompson was. You could argue Draymond Green is as important as those guys because he's the enforcer, yes, but he's also the steadying force in a way out there for them. I think, you know, he's a very important part of a championship team. And I was like, you know it, just that part of it reminds me of his ease. Though he's so good and maybe other teams don't like him and other fan bases don't like him, but he's great for your team, and you know.

Yeah, And I thought, oh, if Raymond Green is in that, there are legs flying and people getting kicked perhaps and he might be gone. He might be gone now, who knows. But I just think that certain guys have that I don't know, there's a wire and they just go nuts. And but it can be very good that edge is very good for your team. He's this is a multi champion player, and you could argue that he's as important to their legacy as any of the other players, as Steph as Klay Thompson was. You could argue Draymond Green is as important as those guys because he's the enforcer, yes, but he's also the steadying force in a way out there for them. I think, you know, he's a very important part of a championship team. And I was like, you know it, just that part of it reminds me of his ease. Though he's so good and maybe other teams don't like him and other fan bases don't like him, but he's great for your team, and you know.

He might be a great guy behind the scenes. I don't know if Draymond is or not.

He might be a great guy behind the scenes. I don't know if Draymond is or not.

He said nice things about the Rockets last night in the post game, Seawan and Seth played a cut this morning. I thought, oh, he's very complimentary of the Rockets, especially Jabari Smith, who I agree should have played more in this series. But it's fun to compare the sports sometimes and the development because the Texans are where they are, young team on the rise. Rockets, Hey, they had a hell of a regular season. I mean they beat the beat the doors off a lot of teams this year ended up as a two seed. I know it was close, but they ended up as a two seed. Awesome, great step forward, bad playoff draw, I think for them because they got a veteran bunch that responded at the moment of truth and I felt like you did, Johnny. After Friday night, I was like, how are they gonna lose? I mean, they got it all go over themselves. Now, Golden State's gotta feel like they totally blew this game. And remember they're the ones, well I know it's different people, but some are the same who blew the series to Lebron back in the day in what was that twenty sixteen sixteen?

He said nice things about the Rockets last night in the post game, Seawan and Seth played a cut this morning. I thought, oh, he's very complimentary of the Rockets, especially Jabari Smith, who I agree should have played more in this series. But it's fun to compare the sports sometimes and the development because the Texans are where they are, young team on the rise. Rockets, Hey, they had a hell of a regular season. I mean they beat the beat the doors off a lot of teams this year ended up as a two seed. I know it was close, but they ended up as a two seed. Awesome, great step forward, bad playoff draw, I think for them because they got a veteran bunch that responded at the moment of truth and I felt like you did, Johnny. After Friday night, I was like, how are they gonna lose? I mean, they got it all go over themselves. Now, Golden State's gotta feel like they totally blew this game. And remember they're the ones, well I know it's different people, but some are the same who blew the series to Lebron back in the day in what was that twenty sixteen sixteen?

I think sixteen, yeah, because that's.

I think sixteen, yeah, because that's.

When we got brock because I remember, I remember I was literally at the Golden Nugget.

When we got brock because I remember, I remember I was literally at the Golden Nugget.

I was at the Golden Nugget.

I was at the Golden Nugget.

For the Lebron block right that game, and and Wade Phillips, Wade and Laurie were there and had dinner with them just like it was well, actually it's post dinner. We just sat together and just talked for two hours because they had just won the Super Bowl.

For the Lebron block right that game, and and Wade Phillips, Wade and Laurie were there and had dinner with them just like it was well, actually it's post dinner. We just sat together and just talked for two hours because they had just won the Super Bowl.

Waited just won the.

Waited just won the.

Super right, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Super right, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

So I said, I forget I forgive you, Coach Phillips, I forgive you winning the Super Bowl. Rock aggravating super Bowl when I ever witnessed. I'm like, wait a minute, those.

So I said, I forget I forgive you, Coach Phillips, I forgive you winning the Super Bowl. Rock aggravating super Bowl when I ever witnessed. I'm like, wait a minute, those.

Are all our guys.

Are all our guys.

They are literally winning the Super Bowl with our guys and the formula that we could have should have won it with where you're not putting too much on the quarterback, you're just running the football and played outstanding defense, just totally disruptive defense. But you know what, we can play that formula right now. I mean we got the chops to do that right now with this defense, yep. And if we can run the football, we can go deep because CJ is CJ. You give CJ toime, you give CJ a great running game, productive running game. In the postseason, let's go.

They are literally winning the Super Bowl with our guys and the formula that we could have should have won it with where you're not putting too much on the quarterback, you're just running the football and played outstanding defense, just totally disruptive defense. But you know what, we can play that formula right now. I mean we got the chops to do that right now with this defense, yep. And if we can run the football, we can go deep because CJ is CJ. You give CJ toime, you give CJ a great running game, productive running game. In the postseason, let's go.

Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be fun.

Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be fun.

This Rockets offseason is gonna be really really interesting, and it's there's been so many parallels to the Texans and the Rockets in so many ways, shapes and forms, and this feels like that offseason, like ours going into twenty four, where we signed a Zase. We went out and got Daniel Hunter, traded for Stefan Diggs, trade for Joe Maxon. This feels like it could be that offseason for the Rockets that they've got some foundational pieces in one in particular, I think Ama Thompson.

This Rockets offseason is gonna be really really interesting, and it's there's been so many parallels to the Texans and the Rockets in so many ways, shapes and forms, and this feels like that offseason, like ours going into twenty four, where we signed a Zase. We went out and got Daniel Hunter, traded for Stefan Diggs, trade for Joe Maxon. This feels like it could be that offseason for the Rockets that they've got some foundational pieces in one in particular, I think Ama Thompson.

But do they need a score to any of a bucket getter?

But do they need a score to any of a bucket getter?

Uh?

Uh?

If so, who is it? And if it's Devin Booker, how much they have to give up? You know, they got all these draft picks. You know, maybe they end up getting lucky again with the lottery.

If so, who is it? And if it's Devin Booker, how much they have to give up? You know, they got all these draft picks. You know, maybe they end up getting lucky again with the lottery.

Maybe not.

Maybe not.

I mean they've got the suns amount of ping pong balls, and so you know, there's no telling what they can come up with, you know, from that and build. You know, what does Reached Shepherd do next year? All that kind of stuff. It makes for a really interesting offseason, you know for the Rockets.

I mean they've got the suns amount of ping pong balls, and so you know, there's no telling what they can come up with, you know, from that and build. You know, what does Reached Shepherd do next year? All that kind of stuff. It makes for a really interesting offseason, you know for the Rockets.

And here's the other thing.

And here's the other thing.

The Rockets are no longer gonna be that oh that nice little plucky story. Now everybody's gonna gear up and say, oh, we're playing the Rockets.

The Rockets are no longer gonna be that oh that nice little plucky story. Now everybody's gonna gear up and say, oh, we're playing the Rockets.

We got to have our stuff together.

We got to have our stuff together.

But in a sense for the Rockets facing the Warriors in its first round, I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you it's unfair.

But in a sense for the Rockets facing the Warriors in its first round, I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you it's unfair.

Nothing's unfair.

Nothing's unfair.

But that's the best seven seed I've ever seen. You know, if they get any other team, they probably are moving on. But they get the Warriors, a team that adds Jimmy Butler that was really really good defensively after they added Jimmy Butler and they had everybody relatively healthy. In this series, the Rockets did too, for the most part that I know of. It's just unfortunate that that team continues to just jamb into the side of the Rockets in the city of Houston.

But that's the best seven seed I've ever seen. You know, if they get any other team, they probably are moving on. But they get the Warriors, a team that adds Jimmy Butler that was really really good defensively after they added Jimmy Butler and they had everybody relatively healthy. In this series, the Rockets did too, for the most part that I know of. It's just unfortunate that that team continues to just jamb into the side of the Rockets in the city of Houston.

How about this, Johnny.

How about this, Johnny.

They went through everything they went through with the Warriors, the Rockets did and Harden and it feels like ten years ago and it wasn't right, but it feels like so long ago where they could have would have should have beat the Warriors and Chris Paul and Hamstring and all that stuff. Rockets go through a complete astros like bottoming out period, I mean, just subterranean, and now here they come back up again and the Warriors are still here, y know, I think in the docuseries, and there will eventually be one if there's not one already on the Warriors.

They went through everything they went through with the Warriors, the Rockets did and Harden and it feels like ten years ago and it wasn't right, but it feels like so long ago where they could have would have should have beat the Warriors and Chris Paul and Hamstring and all that stuff. Rockets go through a complete astros like bottoming out period, I mean, just subterranean, and now here they come back up again and the Warriors are still here, y know, I think in the docuseries, and there will eventually be one if there's not one already on the Warriors.

This era will be like and they had a nice.

This era will be like and they had a nice.

Little couple of flashes in the playoffs and they won against it. Like, I think they're out now, probably, but it's it's still notable. How you have you know, two of the big three, of their Big three still around and they're still making noise. But don't you agree with me in their docu series, I think they're done winning championships now. Maybe I'm totally wrong because Draymond bra did it at the All Star Game that they would win, and maybe they do. But to me, this is like, oh yeah, and that's the end of that era and then they'll go on from there. In the Warrior Docus.

Little couple of flashes in the playoffs and they won against it. Like, I think they're out now, probably, but it's it's still notable. How you have you know, two of the big three, of their Big three still around and they're still making noise. But don't you agree with me in their docu series, I think they're done winning championships now. Maybe I'm totally wrong because Draymond bra did it at the All Star Game that they would win, and maybe they do. But to me, this is like, oh yeah, and that's the end of that era and then they'll go on from there. In the Warrior Docus.

I think, I think anything is possible. I think getting swept by the Timby's as possible. I think getting all the way to the NBA Finals as possible. But I just you know, when you think about you know, playing teams like the Celtics, Knicks, Calves, you know, even the Pacers.

I think, I think anything is possible. I think getting swept by the Timby's as possible. I think getting all the way to the NBA Finals as possible. But I just you know, when you think about you know, playing teams like the Celtics, Knicks, Calves, you know, even the Pacers.

I don't know Pacers too much. I think the Calves will come back and win that.

I don't know Pacers too much. I think the Calves will come back and win that.

But even the Thunder I think the young, the how loaded, especially the Thunder are with stud young players that they can go get buckets too. And I think that's the one thing that we'll see. And I think the Timberwolves too, Like how do they try and stop Anthony Edwards? You know, if Edwards gets hot, you know, they can bang up the Warriors two places and physical ball. So I'm curious to see how that goes for them in this next series.

But even the Thunder I think the young, the how loaded, especially the Thunder are with stud young players that they can go get buckets too. And I think that's the one thing that we'll see. And I think the Timberwolves too, Like how do they try and stop Anthony Edwards? You know, if Edwards gets hot, you know, they can bang up the Warriors two places and physical ball. So I'm curious to see how that goes for them in this next series.

It's funny with Oklahoma City because I think the world is about to see a lot of casual fans are about to see them for the first time, you know, as they get deeper into this playoff run here and be like, oh wow, these guys are that good? Like how did they have the best record in the West. I'm still getting over them losing their Big three. I'm still thinking about Durant and Harden and Russell Westbrook and that Oklahoma City thunder.

It's funny with Oklahoma City because I think the world is about to see a lot of casual fans are about to see them for the first time, you know, as they get deeper into this playoff run here and be like, oh wow, these guys are that good? Like how did they have the best record in the West. I'm still getting over them losing their Big three. I'm still thinking about Durant and Harden and Russell Westbrook and that Oklahoma City thunder.

What is this?

What is this?

You know, I think a lot of casual fans are like that. So that'll be interesting. And before people call me out, I'm gonna call myself out because I said the Rockets went through this astros like bottoming out period, and I think the natural response is, well, what about the Texans. Did you have astros like bottoming out period. I'm like, yeah, we did, we did. We had three years of total bottom out. Now, the good thing is you're you're back in the playoffs and making noise there and you got the I mean, the players that they have. But we can all hope that you have the success that the Astros did after they're bottoming out. And that's the hope here with the Texans having their bottoming out.

You know, I think a lot of casual fans are like that. So that'll be interesting. And before people call me out, I'm gonna call myself out because I said the Rockets went through this astros like bottoming out period, and I think the natural response is, well, what about the Texans. Did you have astros like bottoming out period. I'm like, yeah, we did, we did. We had three years of total bottom out. Now, the good thing is you're you're back in the playoffs and making noise there and you got the I mean, the players that they have. But we can all hope that you have the success that the Astros did after they're bottoming out. And that's the hope here with the Texans having their bottoming out.

Are we gonna get there?

Are we gonna get there?

We're gonna get to the championship level multiple times would be great.

We're gonna get to the championship level multiple times would be great.

Rockets are hoping for that as well.

Rockets are hoping for that as well.

And the Astros are the Astros in the Astros docu series.

And the Astros are the Astros in the Astros docu series.

Is it like, ah, the end of the era, that kind of thing. Stay tuned. It's sports. We love it. It is it is.

Is it like, ah, the end of the era, that kind of thing. Stay tuned. It's sports. We love it. It is it is.

We do, absolutely love it.

We do, absolutely love it.

Congrassler rocks on a great regular season, tough playoff, ending some tremendous moments, and what's gonna be one hell of an offseason. All right, when we get back, it's time for over under or earlier later. You know, you'll see what I'm talking about next right here in Texans All Access. Welcome back to this Monday night edition of Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio, John Harris alongside Mark Van Ruir. Mark, I know you like to play over under, and I'm throwing in a new wrinkle called earlier or later and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. But it's just an off youto over under. But it has to do with the schedule. A reminder May fourteenth, that is is Wednesday Wednesday?

Congrassler rocks on a great regular season, tough playoff, ending some tremendous moments, and what's gonna be one hell of an offseason. All right, when we get back, it's time for over under or earlier later. You know, you'll see what I'm talking about next right here in Texans All Access. Welcome back to this Monday night edition of Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio, John Harris alongside Mark Van Ruir. Mark, I know you like to play over under, and I'm throwing in a new wrinkle called earlier or later and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. But it's just an off youto over under. But it has to do with the schedule. A reminder May fourteenth, that is is Wednesday Wednesday?

Is that right? Wednesday? Next Wednesday? Next Wednesday?

Is that right? Wednesday? Next Wednesday? Next Wednesday?

The fourteenth, we will unveil the twenty twenty five schedule. Actually we'll have Texans All Access which is the schedule release pregame, but then we'll have our thoughts at seven o'clock that evening on the schedule, it is an exciting one.

The fourteenth, we will unveil the twenty twenty five schedule. Actually we'll have Texans All Access which is the schedule release pregame, but then we'll have our thoughts at seven o'clock that evening on the schedule, it is an exciting one.

We have nine home games this year, we have eight road games.

We have nine home games this year, we have eight road games.

We also find out what the preseason games are, so that's gonna be exciting. But Mark, are you ready for over under? I got some simple ones to start off. Well, I think they're simple. I think they're simple. And you'll see how I've phrased this first one because unfortunately it's a guy who's had injuries the last couple of years.

We also find out what the preseason games are, so that's gonna be exciting. But Mark, are you ready for over under? I got some simple ones to start off. Well, I think they're simple. I think they're simple. And you'll see how I've phrased this first one because unfortunately it's a guy who's had injuries the last couple of years.

The number is four and a half.

The number is four and a half.

Christian Kirk catches per game now at four and a half. If he played seventeen games, that would be seventy six and a half receptions in total, four and a half catches per game. So if you played ten, it would be forty five. Five would be twenty two and a half, et cetera, twenty three, et cetera. So for a frame of reference, I just pulled up what Nico did last year. Nico had five point six receptions per game.

Christian Kirk catches per game now at four and a half. If he played seventeen games, that would be seventy six and a half receptions in total, four and a half catches per game. So if you played ten, it would be forty five. Five would be twenty two and a half, et cetera, twenty three, et cetera. So for a frame of reference, I just pulled up what Nico did last year. Nico had five point six receptions per game.

Five point was healthy. Yeah, so that's why I said per game.

Five point was healthy. Yeah, so that's why I said per game.

I said that per game because they've been they've been injured, and so it suse it a little bit. So that's why I went with receptions per game. Christian Kirk four and a half catches per game, you're going over or under.

I said that per game because they've been they've been injured, and so it suse it a little bit. So that's why I went with receptions per game. Christian Kirk four and a half catches per game, you're going over or under.

So you're saying, if Kirk plays in only ten games, it's still four and a half per games played.

So you're saying, if Kirk plays in only ten games, it's still four and a half per games played.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, four and a half per games played.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, four and a half per games played.

I'll go over. I'll go over that.

I'll go over. I'll go over that.

He's gonna have some games where he catches eight ten balls and Nico has five for ninety. Right, But Kirk is more of a go to short yardage on occasion. I know he's not all that, but I could see him well over four and a half per game per games played. Now, you know, it's hard to predict injuries and things like that, but games he appears in. I like the over on four and a half for Christian Kirk. Now, we don't know how the rookies are gonna be. And it's funny with the draft. I go over a week now since the draft, you see all the videos and all the analytics or all the analysts weighing in on how Higgins is gonna do. They're all nuts for Higgins now and I love all this stuff, you know, because it gets me all fired up. But every team has this, right Yeah, it's like, oh, receiver wide receiver X. They're so good and it's gonna be great for us, the Cardinals or whoever we are. So I just love it for the Texans. But I'll go over the four and a half Johnny without knowing what the rookies are gonna do.

He's gonna have some games where he catches eight ten balls and Nico has five for ninety. Right, But Kirk is more of a go to short yardage on occasion. I know he's not all that, but I could see him well over four and a half per game per games played. Now, you know, it's hard to predict injuries and things like that, but games he appears in. I like the over on four and a half for Christian Kirk. Now, we don't know how the rookies are gonna be. And it's funny with the draft. I go over a week now since the draft, you see all the videos and all the analytics or all the analysts weighing in on how Higgins is gonna do. They're all nuts for Higgins now and I love all this stuff, you know, because it gets me all fired up. But every team has this, right Yeah, it's like, oh, receiver wide receiver X. They're so good and it's gonna be great for us, the Cardinals or whoever we are. So I just love it for the Texans. But I'll go over the four and a half Johnny without knowing what the rookies are gonna do.

I'll say that right now.

I'll say that right now.

Okay, So Christian Kirk for six seven he's been in the league seven years. How many of those years did he go over four and a half receptions per game?

Okay, So Christian Kirk for six seven he's been in the league seven years. How many of those years did he go over four and a half receptions per game?

Four?

Four?

Three?

Three?

Okay?

Okay?

He had five point two one year in Arizona. He had four point nine in Jacksonville in twenty two. He had four point eight in Jacksonville twenty three. Then last year he had a career low three point four, So I think four and a half is actually not a bad number, and I hope it's more. I would hope he'd be that guy that, like you said, he'll have a consistent three, four five every game, but then he'll have that game where he has seven, he has eight. He has plenty of those kind of games as well, so you know, hopefully that's that's where it ends up going. But yeah, he's only had three of the seven where he's over four and a half catches per game.

He had five point two one year in Arizona. He had four point nine in Jacksonville in twenty two. He had four point eight in Jacksonville twenty three. Then last year he had a career low three point four, So I think four and a half is actually not a bad number, and I hope it's more. I would hope he'd be that guy that, like you said, he'll have a consistent three, four five every game, but then he'll have that game where he has seven, he has eight. He has plenty of those kind of games as well, so you know, hopefully that's that's where it ends up going. But yeah, he's only had three of the seven where he's over four and a half catches per game.

If he doesn't go over four and a half, I think it's gonna be Noel or Higgins becomes this really reliable threat. Right now, I have a hard time seeing Barrios up that much of Kirk's potential production.

If he doesn't go over four and a half, I think it's gonna be Noel or Higgins becomes this really reliable threat. Right now, I have a hard time seeing Barrios up that much of Kirk's potential production.

Or Watson.

Or Watson.

I would think, justin Watson, folks, I would think that it's going to be one of the rookies who comes in and really splashes or think.

I would think, justin Watson, folks, I would think that it's going to be one of the rookies who comes in and really splashes or think.

I think, yeah, okay, are you ready for an earlier or later?

I think, yeah, okay, are you ready for an earlier or later?

Do it?

Do it?

Okay?

Okay?

This do early and laters have to do with the schedule. We talk about this a lot earlier or later. Both Colts games completed earlier or later than Week twelve. Now, last year we played them week one, we played them week eight. We were well before Week twelve. But most every other year it's.

This do early and laters have to do with the schedule. We talk about this a lot earlier or later. Both Colts games completed earlier or later than Week twelve. Now, last year we played them week one, we played them week eight. We were well before Week twelve. But most every other year it's.

Been one early, one late, one early one late.

Been one early, one late, one early one late.

There's been a couple other times where it's been in and around, you know, week two, week ten, somewhere in there, both Colts games completed earlier or later than Week twelve.

There's been a couple other times where it's been in and around, you know, week two, week ten, somewhere in there, both Colts games completed earlier or later than Week twelve.

And well, you know how I feel about this.

And well, you know how I feel about this.

I think the league really screwed up last year by having both Colts games completed before November hits. I mean, what are you doing? You know what this division's gonna come down to. So and look, I know last year it didn't, but it had the potential. It had the potential to be big had there been a Colts match up late.

I think the league really screwed up last year by having both Colts games completed before November hits. I mean, what are you doing? You know what this division's gonna come down to. So and look, I know last year it didn't, but it had the potential. It had the potential to be big had there been a Colts match up late.

That gives them more hope.

That gives them more hope.

Not that I want to see them have hope, but that gives them more hope to unseat the Texans late. And you want that because what did you have last year?

Not that I want to see them have hope, but that gives them more hope to unseat the Texans late. And you want that because what did you have last year?

When were we through with the Jags? Last year.

When were we through with the Jags? Last year.

Titans, I know was the last week of the season, and that tit week thirteen.

Titans, I know was the last week of the season, and that tit week thirteen.

We thirteen because it was the last game for the bye. Yeah, we're thirteen.

We thirteen because it was the last game for the bye. Yeah, we're thirteen.

Crazy that's right, the last game before the by the worldroad game. That's crazy talk, Like, come on, what you need to do is have the potential for a division showdown. That means something because no one would have predicted going into twenty twenty three that the last game of the regular season Texans Colts would be a playoff game. That's exactly what it was. It was awesome on a Saturday. It was a really entertaining game for the national audience. You know, I know these aren't like national household brand names, but they are compelling when you have that kind of that kind of prize on the line. So go ahead and put the Texans in the Colts late. I don't think they're gonna make that mistake again. And I know people are saying, well, what do you what do you do with the Titans, What do you do with the Jags? I would say the Jags, you got to give them a later one too. Most divisional games, you know you're gonna have at least two division opponents in the last three weeks of the season most of the time.

Crazy that's right, the last game before the by the worldroad game. That's crazy talk, Like, come on, what you need to do is have the potential for a division showdown. That means something because no one would have predicted going into twenty twenty three that the last game of the regular season Texans Colts would be a playoff game. That's exactly what it was. It was awesome on a Saturday. It was a really entertaining game for the national audience. You know, I know these aren't like national household brand names, but they are compelling when you have that kind of that kind of prize on the line. So go ahead and put the Texans in the Colts late. I don't think they're gonna make that mistake again. And I know people are saying, well, what do you what do you do with the Titans, What do you do with the Jags? I would say the Jags, you got to give them a later one too. Most divisional games, you know you're gonna have at least two division opponents in the last three weeks of the season most of the time.

That the Texans didn't have that last year.

That the Texans didn't have that last year.

Yeah we didn't.

Yeah we didn't.

That was kind of weird, Okay, Leading sack artists on the team.

That was kind of weird, Okay, Leading sack artists on the team.

Now, we don't know who it's gonna be.

Now, we don't know who it's gonna be.

We got candidates, but the number of said sack artists over under is eleven and a half. Now, for reference, last year, Danil had twelve, Will had eleven. Everybody else beyond that could be one of those two, It could be somebody else. But whoever it is, the number is eleven and a half over or under.

We got candidates, but the number of said sack artists over under is eleven and a half. Now, for reference, last year, Danil had twelve, Will had eleven. Everybody else beyond that could be one of those two, It could be somebody else. But whoever it is, the number is eleven and a half over or under.

Oh, totally easy over here, because okay, all right, yeah, I'll go over with that, because look, you mentioned Danil and Will's numbers last year. I think it's not anybody else. It's one of those two guys. And at some point Will well, at some point Danil, I don't want to say he gets older, but I mean, can he keep can he keep doing this?

Oh, totally easy over here, because okay, all right, yeah, I'll go over with that, because look, you mentioned Danil and Will's numbers last year. I think it's not anybody else. It's one of those two guys. And at some point Will well, at some point Danil, I don't want to say he gets older, but I mean, can he keep can he keep doing this?

This is crazy? Yeah?

This is crazy? Yeah?

Why not?

Why not?

He is the most how he's built I know, I know he's built over this thing. Yeah, he's like a robot. And now he's living in Houston on a playoff team.

He is the most how he's built I know, I know he's built over this thing. Yeah, he's like a robot. And now he's living in Houston on a playoff team.

He's happy. I mean, not that he was unhappy in Minnesota.

He's happy. I mean, not that he was unhappy in Minnesota.

He's probably happy up there too, but but even happier.

He's probably happy up there too, but but even happier.

But Will, I think this is year.

But Will, I think this is year.

Three, Johnny, this is where you really start to come into your own. You know, think about what eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen was Wat's best year.

Three, Johnny, this is where you really start to come into your own. You know, think about what eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen was Wat's best year.

That was his fourth year in the league.

That was his fourth year in the league.

Okay, and I just and how many defensive player that he had two Defensive Player of the Year awards after O'Brien shows up. Correct, Yeah, he did win fourteen, fourteen, fifteen. I think this is it for Will. He's he's going to come into another level here. So I would say, Will, and it's over eleven and a half sacks.

Okay, and I just and how many defensive player that he had two Defensive Player of the Year awards after O'Brien shows up. Correct, Yeah, he did win fourteen, fourteen, fifteen. I think this is it for Will. He's he's going to come into another level here. So I would say, Will, and it's over eleven and a half sacks.

Okay, you mentioned the draft. We're we're we're out of the you know, the.

Okay, you mentioned the draft. We're we're we're out of the you know, the.

Wave of the draft, so to speak. There's still a little bit of ripple there. Always says, oh, by the way, we're going to table this discussion for another day. But PFF did a redraft of two thousand and six, and when I saw it, it made me think of the butterfly effect of one thing happening in two thousand and six. They redrafted, and they redrafted Andrew it Worth to the Texans at number one overall, And I started thinking about the butterfly effect of that one thing going forward, and it was like.

Wave of the draft, so to speak. There's still a little bit of ripple there. Always says, oh, by the way, we're going to table this discussion for another day. But PFF did a redraft of two thousand and six, and when I saw it, it made me think of the butterfly effect of one thing happening in two thousand and six. They redrafted, and they redrafted Andrew it Worth to the Texans at number one overall, And I started thinking about the butterfly effect of that one thing going forward, and it was like.

Whoa, they don't draft Charles Spencer if they draft Whitworth.

Whoa, they don't draft Charles Spencer if they draft Whitworth.

Right, And at that point do they draft Winston?

Right, And at that point do they draft Winston?

You know, they've already gotten their guys, So at that point they've got their left tackle, do they you know, they don't draft Dwayne Brown at two thousand and eight, and who do they draft?

You know, they've already gotten their guys, So at that point they've got their left tackle, do they you know, they don't draft Dwayne Brown at two thousand and eight, and who do they draft?

You know? So there's so it's a butterfly effected in my head. It's just spinning.

You know? So there's so it's a butterfly effected in my head. It's just spinning.

I was like, okay, we got to talk about that, but we'll do that for a little bit later. But we're still staying with the rookies here. Rookie starters, Now, the word starter can.

I was like, okay, we got to talk about that, but we'll do that for a little bit later. But we're still staying with the rookies here. Rookie starters, Now, the word starter can.

Be kind of.

Be kind of.

Especially at a guy, you know, a receiver, because Nico. There were times they would start at certain personnel group and Nico wasn't part of that, and they would start the game that way. So Nico doesn't get a start, but Nico would play eighty five to ninety percent.

Especially at a guy, you know, a receiver, because Nico. There were times they would start at certain personnel group and Nico wasn't part of that, and they would start the game that way. So Nico doesn't get a start, but Nico would play eighty five to ninety percent.

Of the place.

Of the place.

So I use the word starter loosely.

So I use the word starter loosely.

Rookie starters on a relatively consistent basis for this team in twenty twenty five, I set the number at one and a half.

Rookie starters on a relatively consistent basis for this team in twenty twenty five, I set the number at one and a half.

Oh all right, Well the half is interesting because you figure one of the receivers is gonna break through, right, okay, all right, And it's regular basis starters. So on defense, do any of them become that? Based on what you have already? It's hard to say. I would say no.

Oh all right, Well the half is interesting because you figure one of the receivers is gonna break through, right, okay, all right, And it's regular basis starters. So on defense, do any of them become that? Based on what you have already? It's hard to say. I would say no.

I mean, Jalen Smith, Jalen Reid. As long as you don't have injuries, I don't think so. I think they'll be especially special teams, right, but there's.

I mean, Jalen Smith, Jalen Reid. As long as you don't have injuries, I don't think so. I think they'll be especially special teams, right, but there's.

No vacancy in the hotel for a Kaitlin Bullock to come in here and wreck shop or you know, or come on.

No vacancy in the hotel for a Kaitlin Bullock to come in here and wreck shop or you know, or come on.

You wouldn't think so. You would think it's on offense.

You wouldn't think so. You would think it's on offense.

Right, So are there two?

Right, So are there two?

I'm gonna go under.

I'm gonna go under.

I'm gonna okay, well, hold on, hold on if I'm feeling aggressive. If I'm feeling aggressive, maybe I think Ursery finds a way to crack into the starting lineup eventually, you know, whether it be injury forcing him in because he's the next best thing, or he actually wins the job, or or shows enough promise where like, you know what, we got to play him.