An expert weighs in on Texans Draft class | Texans All Access

Published May 1, 2025, 9:14 PM
Pro Football Hall of Fame writer John McClain joined the Texans Radio Crew to share his thoughts and opinions on the Texans 2025 Draft class.

Hello Texans, welcome to the show. Great to have you with us. A wee couldgo. We were doing the NFL Draft, My goodness. We were out there at Avenue to Houston, the draft party. We got rained on. We got no picks selected by the Texans, but a trade made, actually two trades that day. And here we are on the Hyundai Texans radio studio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you, and let's get him in here. The General, the Hall of Famer John McClain joins us. John, we talked to you live last week prior to the draft. The draft is done, some undrafted free agents signed. We've got OTA's coming up soon enough. Your thoughts, good evening. How did you see the weekend of activity for the Houston Texans.

Well, I thought from where I was at headquarters in an RG Stadium, it was great. I feel bad for the Fans to be down there waiting for the first pick. And then Nick made the trade for multiple pigs. And after it was over, even though they didn't draft for need, they somehow managed to fill at offensive tackle and wide receiver. And I thought the wide receivers were great picks. And I thought taylors His ursery was a really good pick too, because he doesn't have to come in and start right away because of Cam Robinson, he might you know, Blake Fisher wasn't supposed to start last year because of injuries. He got a chance to start. So they have their offensive tackles of the future, Blake Fisher and Arion Taylors Ray, who are second round picks. And they got two wide receivers. And there can't be anybody happier with this draft. Two people c J. Stroud and Nick Kayley.

Yeah, two the most important people in this building. General, what did you think as you're watching the draft and we talked so much about the various UH players that the Texas could be considering, Booker Banks, Golden Donovan Jackson, et cetera. Zay as you're watching the draft, at what point did you feel like, Oh, this isn't going kind of the way we would want as Texans fans, because I got a feeling there may only be one guy available, there may be no guys available.

When did you kind of think, oh, this may not turn out.

The way that a lot of the media scribes were saying with Banks and Booker getting to twenty five.

And let's point out a lot of the media scribes of former general managers, coaches, players, people always act like their media writers. I was listing in NFL Radio this morning and Ed McCaffrey kept talking about the writers, the writers, and I wanted to call in and say, don't you know about the former general managers and personnel people who were making those pigs who were in the NFL. And so I thought of you, John, because you said that you were afraid a lot of those offensive linemen would be gone. It came down Josh Connery and Josh Simmons, who's a gamble because of his Tormtel attendon. And then when Nickosario traded out, I thought, Okay, there's a group that he has in the next level feet that he has rated with Connery and with Simmons, that he's confident he's going to be able to get. And then when they took Jadon Higgins, you don't see two teams with two starting wide receivers when Higgins is able to start who are six four and run into four fours and four Higgins who averaged fifteen zero point five yards and in his last two seasons that iowall state, You're gonna have two guys that can go up and get it and can go deep and get it, and that's great for Stroud as well. So that's when I started to think about it. And then when they got Nursery, I had watched the tape or the highlights of him working over Abdull Carter, and there was one of Jimmy Stanton, former Astro's media relations director and worked with the Titan. Jimmy's been University of Oregon for years and he was in town and I talked to him about every Oregon prospect and he said, well, Josh Connolly dominated Abdul Carter and I said, well, so did Ariante Hersery. I said, well, boy, I guess nobody else did, or he wouldn't have been viewed as a can't miss prospect. But I thought that was great. Could take in the big ten offensive line of the year. It wasn't Connorly, and it wasn't any of Donovan, nobody else but him, and I thought that was very impressive. Now he's coming to the Texans.

John every pick Nick Cassario made was acquired via some kind of trade, which is amazing. And I alerted him to this last night at an event we were doing. He said, oh really, I said, come on, you know this anyway? Were you surprised he wasn't able to move up. Is it because he didn't want to do it badly enough, it costs too much? Or he just realized, you know what, I'd rather have two two, two threes and a four because that's what he eventually got, and take my chances that way, as opposed to drafting somebody up high, losing some draft capital and taking a chance and a guy who might not work out after all. Kenyan Green one example of a guy that you pick in the first round that doesn't do everything you hope he would do.

Your thoughts.

I think it was just too much. Otherwise he wouldn't have done it. And it's pretty obvious that he was looking at offensive linemen and wide receivers best on what he did with his first three bigs. But he you know, it's hard to say when because Serio makes a trade and somebody gets over on him. You know, you see that a lot. Oh so and so took advantage of so and so, But you don't hear you don't hear that much about that at all, about Serio, and I think that's because number one, he knows what he's doing. He always and he's had a successful track record, and he gets the benefit of the doubt. And one of the things that we know now he tries to get players to coaches want. Cause Serio knows that Tamiko Ryans wants a player, and he gives him somebody else, there's a good chance that guy's not going to be getting used as much. And it's just like with Nick Kyley, if you try to shove somebody down his throat instead of guys he wants. He's been very accommodating, which makes me wonder who wanted Kenyan Green because he didn't shove Kenyan down somebody's throat. Would that had been love he is the head coach, then yeah, so I like the way he goes about it. Of course you'd like to see a first round pick, but consider the especially last year with Kamari Lassiter a day one starter, and that's day one of the off rookie mini camp, and in the way Bullot adjusted early and worked his way into the lineup and then became a ball hog boy. I can't wait to see these guys get on the field. Can't wait to see the receivers come in. The competition in the offensive line is just going to be fierce. There's gonna be some productive guys who are not going to make this team. They just have too many. And right now the two you know, Titus Hour is going to be the left guard, Cam Robinson will be the left tackle, The right tackle is going to be Blake Fisher, and then it comes to right guard. Last year, Just Shrugs showed he could play right guard, and the question is who's going to play center. Jerck Patterson hasn't shown he can consistently handle it. And even though they'll say all jobs up in the air, I'm looking at center and right guard as soon as we get on the Texans practice field and start watching them all throughout training camp, off season program, preseason to see if somebody can step up. And then of course they're gonna have injuries and they're gonna have more depth than they have ever had. And I think that's great because you can't have too many offensive linemen, as you guys know, because they get hurt. And I think if Cam Robinson, who played every game last year for two teams, if he gets hurt, you could have Trent Brown, you could have tay Erzrie stepped in there and start playing left tackle. But I think they got to feel so much better than they felt last season with It's not miraculous, but you know, when we talk about the offensive line, it's like, boy, they were so bad that Texans were a losing team when they won the division again, it finished ten and seven, blew out a team in a wildcard round. So I think wide receiver and the offensive line are going to be the most competitive positions on the team. Of the defensive line, we'll be next.

General, I feel like the AFC South maybe made the most noise on draft night. Jaguars move up, Colts take Warren. Obviously, Jaguars moved out to get a hunter. Cam Ward was gonna go number one to Tennessee and then obviously one of the two trades in the first round where two teams dropped out, it was the Texans making that deal to go from twenty five down to thirty four, et cetera. Let's focus on Tennessee with cam Ward because it kind of got glossed over as soon as cam Ward was taken. There were a lot of people talking about, oh, Shedur Sanders and we'll get to him in a second. I feel like that just got glossed over, and that just adds more to the chip on the shoulder of cam Ward. What'd you think about cam going to Tennessee and how much impact he made in addition to what the Gladstone did moving up three spots and getting Travis Hunter.

I thought it was a great video yesterday of cam Ward going back to West Columbia and going to his high school and all the students and teachers and administrators outside cheering and chanting his name. That was just very cool. And he pointed out he's wearing the same earbuds he got in high school from his grandmother. I think she died. And everything about this kid is good. And I thought he was very classy of Warren Moon to come out and say he would let him wear his number one. I think the number one that he wore here that jersey will never be worn again. It'll be the number one of the Titans jerseys. And I just thought Moon intent him coming out and saying so many great things about Ward. Moon knew Ward before the draft as a lot of young quarterback contact Moon for advice. He's off to a great start up there, but he's got to add a better offensive line, he's got to add some better receivers, running games pretty good, and of course their defense was terrible. But he was clearly the best quarterback prospect this year. And then Travis Hunter, the superstar of the draft, the one guaranteed superstar, and we don't know which side of the ball he's gonna play. There's a very interesting story by Mike Sando and the athletic Mike talks to executives. He spends two or time after the draft talking to executives promising them an anemity, and one of them said, yeah, they'll play them both ways. And the first time he gets hurt on one side of the ball, he'll be full time on the other side. But I can't wait to see im. Jaguars fans are fired up about it. You know, Texan's got a super Bowl caliber defense and they're gonna need it going up against Travis Hunter, and they're gonna need it on both sides of the ball. If that's what he's doing, I'm guessing wherever they put him full time, he'll be part of the subpackages on the other times. And Tyler Warren is tied in from Penn State. They just fell into the lapse of the Colts. They are desperate for a tight end. They haven't had a productive tight end since twenty eighteen, and they got the best or the second best, depending on how you had them ranked, but a super Bowl caliber defense like the Texans. Their jobs just got harder with the top three picks for Tennessee Jacksonville in Dinneapolis and a lot of people I saw the athletic gave an f to the Jaguars because they didn't like the trade giving up a number one pick next year. Well, that doesn't mean it's going to be used correctly. When you got a chance to get the player everybody says is destined the most to be a superstar, don't you have to take it, especially when he's gonna help on both sides of the ball. I think the Jaguars, not the Titans, not the Colts, will be the Texans primary competition for the FC South, and I think the Texans will win it because they should dominate this division again. I don't think the Jaguars making the playoffs. I just think with Liam Cohen coming in there, in his history going back to college with quarterbacks that bowes very well for Trevor Lawrence, and Jacksonville might win seven or eight games if the Texans could win ten, eleven, twelve. But I think it's Jacksonville a little finished in second place.

I think the Texans radio kangaroo court should find you for using the term guaranteed superstar used earlier to describe Travis Hunter. So we'll see about that, but maybe you're right. We'll find out soon enough. And speaking of strength of schedule stuff related to next year, the Texans are somewhere middle of the pack based on winning percentage from last year's records of the twenty twenty five opponents. However, we've had a draft, we've had free agency, and who knows about the rest of the AFC South, And that's probably the saving grace, so to speak, for the Texans in terms of strength of go because general, when I look at playing the NFC West and the AFC West, this is no picnic and the Buccaneers coming here, that is a tough schedule. The Raiders that was a four win team last year, that's not a four win team this year. I think this is you look at Denver playoff team Chargers playoff team Kansas City.

They're them.

Anybody in the NFC West feels like they could take anybody out at any time.

So that's a tough date.

So when I was telling you earlier, in General, I said to to Mark, I saw this Reo pop up I don't even know who was. And they predicted the NFC, the AFC South and MC South, and they predicted the Texans to win at eleven and six and the Jags.

To be next.

If that was interesting, is over in the NFC South they had the Buccaneers finishing six and eleven. How how why in third in the NFC South? I was did they watch football?

Yeah?

I was like, what the hell is this six and eleven for the Bucks? I mean, poot those numbers around and think you're closer. So the had the Panthers ahead of the Bucks. Now I think the Panthers are gonna be better. That's that's the head of the Bucks ahead of the Bucks. Okay, and I'm ahead of the Bucks. I means that's how crazy he was. All right, General, let's get to the question everybody wants to know. Dr Sanders fell to one forty four. Your thoughts as you're watching the draft and seeing that all unfold about Shudor.

I think you mean to say everybody's sick of.

Not everybody wants to know, okay good.

I thought it was hilarious. In the press box, I had the two TVs on above me, but I had to sound on ESPN. I did not have the remote. I wanted to vomit about mel Kiper just going on and on and on and saying the NFL is clueless about quarterbacks. And I'm thinking, yeah, you pushed Jimmy claus In as the top pick, and but they got great ratings and that s all ESPN cares about. And I did feel bad for Sanders. And then when I found out, according to one of his brothers, that does Louis Vatan suitcases that he was holding at that his star studied draft party contained a million dollars, and I didn't feel so sorry for him. And you talk about a guy going from the penthouse at Colorado and with his daddy and his brothers to the out house being a fourth quarterback, and if Sean Watson had a miraculous cover, he maybe be the fifth quarterback. I thought this, all these stories we're hearing about off the field stuff, in involving entitlement lack of self awareness. Ross Tucker had one this morning. He's supposed to have a production meeting with him before Colorado Calads state game, and he didn't show up. And as somebody pointed out, when he did interviews with him, he thought he was using it more like he was being recruited instead of being a job interview. But I think it's great he gets away from his dad. I think it's terrible he goes to Cleveland. Everybody says Jimmy has made the pick. Made him make the pick, and like he did with Johnny Football and Deshaun Watson two hundred and thirty million, because in the video we saw of general manager Andrew Berry and coach Kevin Stefanski when the pick was announced, they looked like they were being held hostage somewhere in the Middle East. And Barry didn't move and Stefanski was clapping his hand like some animal, like a seal, and they did not look happy with that pick. And how are they going to get the reps? He got a forty year old quarterback who did not play well last year for Indianapolis. Kenny Pickett's on his third team in three years, and then Dylan Gabriel, who's five to eleven but as a great arm and then everything was fine there. They had a good draft up to that point. And then Sador Sanders and it's gonna be like it was with Johnny Manziel. I went up there at his first train camp. Every time he was available, I couldn't get with him ten feet of him because of all the media around him. And there's league rules that if a guy is healthy, he has to talk. And if they demand to talk to the fourth string quarterback, and they got to let him talk, And how's he going to handle it? How's his daddy gonna handle it? I think it's great. Deonn hadn't waite in yet, but at some point he's going to and we know he had been humboldt and so hopefully this is good for Sir Sanders. I think if he has success in the NFL, it'll be with his next team, not with the Browns.

I'll ask Johnny this in the next segment. So Johnny pipe down about this one done. Who starts for the Browns? If it's not Flacco, it's not Flacco, Who's going to win that job?

Can't think it's going to start, because that's why they traded for him, And it's not going to be Dylan Gabriel as a rookie, and it's certainly not going to be Sanders. How's he going to get reps? He's the fourth quarterback? What do you do fourth quarterbacks in training camp? You cut them at bears, you put them on the practice squad. And can't put him or Gabriel on the practice squad they get claimed by somebody, So they're gonna have to carry four quarterbacks? And do you think that's what Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski wanted to do? And if they get off to a slow start, there's a good chance the fantasy is gonna be asked every week. You worried about your job, you worried about them hiring Dion, and just the kind of distractions teams do not need.

General go with me on this hypothetical here. I know you have the lovely Carol, but if you didn't, and you had a twenty four year old girlfriend, would you let her handle your life the way Jordan Hudson is handling Bill Belichick right now?

What are your thoughts on that?

Well? I would like to say no, but I'm not in his shoes. But I tell you what, I'm sure he's having the time of his life after making twenty million all those years. And what I thought is great is Steve Belichick, his son, who's the defensive coordinator. You know, his wife weighed in on Instagram or something and rip Jordan for the way she handled that. So they got problems behind the scenes. Looking more and more like old Bill's going to be a What had done in North Carolina probably had nothing to do with his coaching. And I don't if he's in love, good for him. If she's in love, good for him. But what he's letting her do go on the practice feel and when they're out there. I can't wait to see what happens when they report, because this is going to be the best story in college football.

It is, absolutely And speaking of fourth quarterbacks and Belichick, do you know who the number four quarterback was for the Patriots in the year two thousand?

That was Tom Brady playing behind Michael Bishop.

That's exactly right.

It was high school coach Michael Bishop and went into the College Football Hall of Fame two years ago and is a great iron legend of Texas.

It was.

Yeah, Brady was the fourth quarterback, and they kept him just because they thought there was something there. They wanted to keep him around, made him the fourth quarterback all year. And as they say the rest history.

Bell Brady knew as a rookie to stay in the background, keep his mouth shut.

Yep, yep. That's a very good, very true, very good point, very true. Back to the Shadur thing, just for a moment, this aspect of it. The phone number the defensive coordinator for the Falcons his son. I mean, I'm just thinking of my sons. If one of them pulled that, Are you kidding, You're gonna lose my job for me? Come on, that is unbelievable stuff. Yet you hear all these stories now of other guys that get prank called during the draft.

There were a lot of them in this draft.

Well that's because the NFL sent out to people those numbers. Originally, the NF Mike Florio's got it all. And Florio pointed out the first day they sent the numbers to everybody in Green Bay who was going to participate in everybody were they had cameras at their houses. I think there was seventy six and then the second day for some reason, they put it on a master list, meaning it went out to every coach in the country. Now what I don't understand what I would like to know? And Ulrich didn't address this. What's his son doing snooping on his dad's laptop when it's open on the table. What kind of sun is that? But the NFL should find itself for putting coaches in bad situations. And they're going to run down all these other prank calls that players got. That'll be changed next year and we won't hear about this again. But the NFL is the most to blame.

Well, the idiots filmed themselves.

Oh there's that, don't they all?

Yeah, so you would think there's got to be some sort of hood trucking mechanism at that point.

I don't know.

General last one from me, just overall, we talked about the Higgins noll And ursery, but just overall, how'd you feel about the Texans draft? They added what he marks on Day two obviously two USC guys. In the next couple of picks, they drafted a quarterback and Graham Mertz, you know, developmental guy that haven't been able to do that the last few years.

What are you just kind of think overall with the Texans draft, whether you know great or just how you felt about what they were able to do with all nine picks.

I gave him a B plus. I don't give a's to teams that don't have first round picks, and B plus as as I could give it, what he Marx was the one other than top three. I liked him the best because watching what he did at Mississippi State. How many college guys, John, you'd know this, have eighty three catches in a season running bags and still run the ball a lot? What forty seven catches last year? Yeah, the guy that's gonna have to worry is going to be Darry Gumbwally because Darry catches the ball, he's a good special teams player. Woody marks Look, we know he can catch. Looks like he'll be a good special teams player. Can't wait to see him carry the ball in preseason. Don't care about Joe Mixon he shouldn't touch the ball in preseason, but can't wait to see what Woody Marx can do in Nick Kayley's system with Cole Popovich as the new offensive line coach.

Great point, these rookies are going to be hot properties in the preseason broadcasts.

We can't wait to bring him to you. General final thoughts here.

Any updates on your documentary plans you have going on in progress?

What can you share with us?

Yeah, we're on our documentary about the preview owners Polastic League football in high school football in Texas before integration. When we went to lubbook and interviewed the ninety seven year old head coach of Corpus, Christy Miller in nineteen sixty the first integrated team to win a state champion ship. He told us about the semifinals was tougher than the finals when they beat the defending champion, which TeV Falls, And the semifinals had a middle linebacker that was just killing everything and they had to do their whole game plan around this middle linebacker and they managed to trap him and contain him and they won six to zero. And that middle linebacker was Jimmy Johnson. And we're mapping plans this weekend to go to Florida Keys. We don't do any zooms. We do everything in person, and four of us are going to go to the Florida Keys and spend a day with Jimmy Johnson talking about that Corpus Christy Miller team that beat Port Arthur Jefferson and made history in the state of Texas. Thank you for allowing me to say that.

That's beautiful. I want to go down to.

A very nice I always send you guys pictures.

Thank you so much.

All Right, coming up, six pack of questions more Likely to Happen? Who's Better's? Other questions for John Harris. That's next here on Texans Radio. Back to it here on Texans Radio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you in the Hyunday Texans Radio studio and as promised, a six pack of Who's better is more Likely's and other questions that I'm gonna throw at John Harris, John, are you ready for this?

All right?

Let's go, all right, let's do it. Okay, let's start in no particular order. Bigger impact on their team and on the AFC South cam Ward or Travis Hunter. Who's gonna have a bigger impact on their team? Now, it's easy to say the quarterback, but I think I'll phrase it more like this, who makes more of an improvement as a squad? Based on the first round selection of each team.

I still think it's Cam and that Titans team. Obviously the Titans beat us with Will Levis. I just feel like Cam's gonna come in and he might make a mistake or two.

Similar to Will Levis, this is the way he is.

But he's also going to avoid the massive, huge, humongous I'm trying to do too much plays. Even if he makes one early in his career, that won't happen again. Cam's been through it, and I think he is gonna end up making a pretty big impact. Now, Travis's offensive impact is controlled by Noli, Travis, Trevor Lawrence, but also Liam Cohen. I would imagine Cohen's gonna want to get him the ball. But again, when you're a play caller, sometimes it doesn't come to fruition the way you want. But to me, it's more Trevor. It's can Trevor get him the ball? Who's covering him? When we play him? We put Stingley on Thomas and Kamari on Travis. Do you double one of them? Do you roll safety to one of them? Do you let sting goal one on one and help Kamari? Like there's a lot of things that teams are gonna have to figure out. I think once they figure it out, it may lessen his impact a little bit. But I think Cam's coming into a good situation. I think defensive line is improved in front of him in Tennessee still have Calvin Ridley, so that that definitely helps. So I think Cam's gonna make a pretty impact because he's the guy, he's the one, he's the shot caller, whereas Travis has to rely on everybody else in a sense, now he can go get his you know, hey, quick tunnel screen and he takes it and goes and does those kind of things. But I think Cam is going to I think Cam is gonna have that bigger impact now. Jacksonville fans are very very excited about Hunter. I mean they saw him out at a Jacksonville like wing I can't remember what.

There's some wing place. It was like a bar or whatever, and they saw him out there eating and the fans were going nuts. Sure, they were just going crazy. So they're really excited about it. And I like it the fact that in the AFC South, we've got some of these guys so that when the Texans put it on them, it's like yeah, yeah, well you know, you get excited about your guys, but we're still We're still top dog here. I like that.

I think the bigger question related to this is Jacksonville's demise last year four and thirteen record, Doug Peterson, Coultural meltdown, all of it. Oh, does Liam Khne have it to write that ship Travis Hunter or no Travis Hunter to the tune of six seven wins something like that get them going again closer to where they were at their.

Best with Peterson.

And I think that's a big question here, and we don't know until we see it. I still somehow feel like the Jags should finish with the better record than the Titans. But I don't know if anybody would be surprised at this point, because look, they made a change of coach, Jacksonville did, and you have Callahan and year two with the Titans with a new quarterback, and you mentioned it. You know they beat us with Will Levis, they could win three four more games.

There was this popped up on I think it might have been my Instagram reels or YouTube.

I can't remember, but it was a.

Short and it was and I don't know why they picked the Oh, I guess it was NFC South the AFC South, So they did a little NFC South Division prediction, did us going eleven six winning the division?

Good?

So I'm waiting for the next one, and I'm waiting to see a picture of Anthony Richardson and I see Trevor Lawrence.

Oh see.

They had the Jags predicted eight and nine. They had the Colts predicted six and eleven.

Oh and I was like, hmm, I like that. And the Titans were predicted as four and thirteen.

I see. I like the Titans to win more than four.

But we you know, we'll get into this war as the off season progresses here, all right, next question, is the Colts twenty twenty six starting quarterback on the roster?

No, it is not, absolutely not.

And it's funny because I've started to create my I shouldn't say started creat I have created my twenty twenty six NFL draft database, and so I've just been feeding it for the last few days. There are some good options in this draft. Some good options in this draft for the Colts, including depending on what happens with arch Manning. Now knowing what Peyton and Eli I did at their respective universities, they played all the way through now, when Eli was done, there was some maneuvering to get them to the New York Giants. With Peyton, he decided to go back for a senior year because he even went to play for the Jets, and they didn't think it was right to play for the Jets. They ended up in Indianapolis, and it's a place where Peyton felt very comfortable.

In championship and away we go with Arch.

He still has two more years beyond this of eligibility.

That's incredible.

So I bring that up because all right, well Arch is out with the Colts, which hopefully, thank god, he will be at least for now. The rest of the quarterbacks that I look at and go, man, this is a good crop of quarterbacks.

I'm gonna tell you.

It's, you know, like twenty twenty four when you had what six going first round. I don't think it's quite at that level because there were guys.

I really loved in that. I look at these guys and go, man, this is a good draft. But I don't go, oh, I love this group. But they're all different types in this class.

If they all declare, obviously and il changes everything now and so if you're not gonna be a first round quarterback. Some of these guys are gonna up going back, so that that plays into this a little bit. But I just don't think and whether it's a rookie or whether it's a vet, I just don't think they're gonna look at Daniel Jones. They posted a video of them working out in their bubble and Daniel Jones just throwing at football and I was like, I just I hope to God they play him. I really do, because Richardson still scares me that he can he can take you know, he can drop back to pass and we can rush going to sack I me, and he can just take off and all of a sudden, you got a two hundred and forty five, two hundred and fifty pounds running back with the ball who's really difficult to tackle.

Or somehow gets a sixty five yard pass off and right doing a flip.

Yeah.

So I I just I'm I'm curious how this all plays out for them, And then what in fact is the future of Chris and Shane.

That's that's it right there where Because of that record prediction that you were citing, if they win six games, what was it six and eleven.

Yeah, they're both.

Gone, and now you have a new GM and a new coach and they have to go get a new quarterback regardless because no one will approve themselves with a six win season. So that's it all right, Next question, bigger impact for the Houston Texans.

Jayden Higgins Jalen Knowles.

Oh, I knew this was coming.

Higgins or no, John, you gotta pick a guy, rightw oh.

I knew he might change it next week or after we watch it ota or two. But here we are, right now, after the draft, before we see these guys on the hoof, even as you would say, I'm gonna go.

Ahead and go with Jalen Knowle because I do think he's gonna give you something in the return game too. So I think when you add that park in, it's a little bit of cheating.

It's a little bit. It's a little bit, but it's okay. But I think Jayden's I think Jayden's gonna open us up a little bit.

And I've said this, I can see it clear as day, like I'm just seeing it right now. See throwing deep to Niko against the Bills, and it was like that was really the last time we threw the damn ball deep.

We didn't throw the ball deep the rest of the year. It's one of the things CJ does extremely well, and we just didn't do it. And obviously we lost Digs a couple of weeks left after that, but we didn't throw the ball deep. Two things about that, lack of the deep threat, although Tank was available, but you need to to kind of offset one guy or the other and create that opportunity and pass protection.

That's exactly right, and that's where that hopefully is improved, will be improved, and that we'll give CJ some time to throw the ball down the field because I just see that there was such a weapon. Just seeing a ball in the end, I'm like, oh, Nico's got a beat and it's beautiful.

And it's like easy, like a one play drive.

Every good team has the ability to create a one play drive to get your offense points and get back on the sideline, like every good team has that. You think about the Eagles and what they've got, you know, the Chiefs when all the receivers are healthy.

See, they didn't. They kind of lost that too, and I think that hurt them.

They didn't they lost that deep component and then when they brought it in a receiver, they brought in Hop, Well, Hop didn't have that.

Left in the tank anymore.

Yeah, so every team's got Baltimore's got it was a Flowers, just a little double move and he's gone and you're like whoa and Lamar cold throw it. So when he gets hurt against when Nico gets hurt against Buffalo, I'm like, my point in that is, I do think that Jayden Higgins is gonna have some deep threat opportunities.

He's got enough.

Speed to get deep, good build up speed, but he's you know, four four seven or whatever it is six four two twelve and then he can go snatch the football out of the air. Now, the interesting thing is, I think you do that with Jaalen Nole too, just do it from the slot. And I think they're gonna do that with Christian Kirk and they're gonna do it with no So I think you have deep threat opportunities across the board with what you would I guess see as your top four wide receivers. And so I think it's close, but I'm gonna give it to Noel just based a little bit more on the return game. If it's just offensively related, I probably will give the edge Higgins.

Okay, I'm agreeing with you on Noel overall, I think Noel because he does have the return ability.

I just see him being a factor.

In my extensive look at his highlight Johnny and other factors. And I think that Higgins and Nico are similar. But I hope they're similar. That'd be awesome. And I'm wondering how it's all gonna fit together, but let's watch it together. I just think Nol immediately gets reps somehow. That's my hunch. But again, we got to see them Oka's Mini caamp, training camp, all of that stuff. All right, Let's continue with the questions, a six pack of questions. Who's Better's more likely to happens? General questions? Let's do this, this is a different way to do it. Percentage chance of this being your starting five offensive linemen in week eight? Are you ready for this? Oh, it's we eight, not over a day. It's weak eight A at left tackle. I've got Tay ORSII at left guard, I got Titus Patterson's playing center, Juice at right guard, and Blake Fisher is your right tackle. Percentage chance if that be the old line in week eight, we could run a contest to give away a prize and maybe get an insurance company to hedge it.

I think there's a decent person.

I think there's a decent shot of that happening, okay, because you know, look, I mean, Cam's no spring chicken, and you know he's got a lot of you know, there's a lot of rings around the tree, if you will, he's seen some things, you know, with tay younger guy. Obviously he's gonna have to grow into playing left tackle in the NFL, which is a little bit different. He's got the face. Guys like layout to a lot too. But the guy faced up Dual Carter last year and had moments where he he he won the battles.

Those a couple of battles he lost. I would say overall, he won the war.

But that said, you know he's seen he's at least seen top caliber you know, edge rushers and live to tell about at left tackle. So I think there's a good percentage of that. I'll go, I'll go forty six point seven percent.

Oh I like that number.

Yeah, forty six point seven percent.

Okay, And that would be Ursery, Titus Patterson, Juice Blake as your O line left to right?

All right? Like it?

Okay, let's go to NFL at large here, and we're kind of contrasually obligated to throw in a Cleveland Browns question.

Every NFL conversation.

So, most likely to beat out Joe Flacco for the starting quarterback job?

You and I are in agreement, aren't we that?

When you look at the five that they have, the most likely option is Flaco right at this point?

Yeah, it would be the day one starter.

Day one starter. Yeah, but most likely to beat him out. If somebody's gonna beat him out, is it Watson in some sort of miracle cure comeback? And many miracles? Actually? Shader Sanders fifth round draft choice, Dylan Gay drafted before Sanders amazingly enough, or Canny Pickett just watching who's most likely to beat out Joe Flacco? And you know what they say, Johnny, if you have five quarterbacks, you have none, That's right. And that's what it looks like in Cleveland right now. Imagine being a Browns fan. Hey, you got five quarterbacks? Yep, Well wait a minute, I'm not happy about any of them.

In fact, if it's Joe Flacco.

You're happiest about that says a lot about your franchise.

Okay, I have a question. Your question, Okay, is the tank truly on?

Oh?

Because you're thinking, well, look, they're not going to get Arch Manning. Who's the number two quarterback drafted next year? If it happened today, Hey, we're going to open up a draft up next year's quarterbacks right now?

Who is it?

I like Lenora Sellers from out of South Carolina, who.

I think would be really fun and I know these things change.

Yeah, I think he'd be really fun in Cleveland. I mean really fun because he's got he's got like ten three speed in one hundred, but he throws it really well, like he's he's brought them some big wins.

I mean the winning gets the win at Clemson.

Look, it's not perfect, not gonna sit here and tell you that, but man, when he's got the ball in his hit ball, he's really really excited.

I know a lot of people will probably put up there. Garrett Nusmeyer, I.

Love the coach. I think Garrett's love Beamer.

Yeah, I love Beamer for for the North Sellers, He's he's got a good golf swing too, by the way, really yeah, beam that good coaches coaches golf tournament.

Oh they're all athletes.

I think it was all I think it was somewhere in Atlanta and they had a bunch of them, the ACC and SEC.

Yeah.

Man, they got some boy, they got some good.

Natural athletes that everyone's impressed with their golf. So like that natural freaking world class athlete. Well, not Bieber, not Beamer really, but some of these guys. I was supposed to play the tournament tomorrow. Actually, you know Kevin Bass, people like that. Of course he's got a great swing, major League Baseball, phenomenal hitter. Yeah, oh what a surprise. I canna hit the golf ball?

Really?

If the tank is on him to say picket, I love you, Kevin, what's that if the tank is on him to say the tank is.

Not on Johnny? I got it.

I'm Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry. I guess, save my job. So how do I do that? Who's gonna beat out Joe Flacco.

Shador Sanders.

He's really like, he's really the most likely option have the most upside, I think, yeah, and I know they got him in the fifth round.

I would love to be able to say Dylan Gabriel.

I would love to be able to say that, because I think Dylan's got the trade in the attribute, the intangibles, if you will, to be a guy that they would love in Cleveland.

I think he's a baller.

I think so too.

I think he's like the guy in the movie.

And I just think physically, I know, I know now Or is not that much more physically gifted than Dylan Gabriel at all, but he's a little bit bigger, a little more stout. And I had this epiphany as I was driving home, like, you know, Cleveland's had this issue with quarterbacks. What if it's the most controversial thing that they've done in a sense to draft Shadoor Sanders in a fifth round and he's the one that breaks the cycle. You know, that would be a Cleveland thing, but for them it would be it would be awesome for for them to have done that so and that that would be legendary. But to beat out Flacco and the tank is is is off. I think it's Shador. I think he's the he's the best position to be able to do it. I think they need to add I mean they added two running backs as it was, and I think they're gonna give those guys the ball a lot. So I don't think they're gonna ask too too much of the quarterback. Now, if it's Flacco, I mean, and he plays pretty well, you know, Cleveland can get back to seven eight wins and it will look pretty good.

But I don't know if that's exactly where they.

Want to be, And I don't know if that's gonna happen. That gas tank might have gotten on e with the Indianapolis.

That's true that night against the Vikings where you know it's the game after ours and they're playing the Vikings on Sunday night. I was like, ooh, that's when they made all the moves, Like, oh, this is when we found out about him, about Richardson tapping out and flack Go's back, and here we go.

He's like, oh god, flac Go's not back. This is awful that could happen this year. All right, let's close out the show. Next Girls high school Football. That's flag Football Coach of the Week. We will feature her surprise Fort Ben County and we'll get into some other stuff before the close of business here today related to the national Football League.

It's Texans Radio.

Okay, it's the final segment of the program here tonight, and before we close it out, I will mention something about OTA scheduling possibilities related to where Mini Campus slated to go.

We'll get to that in a moment.

But our high school girls flag football coach of the week Robin Little from Travis High School, one of the twelve Fort Ben County teams that's brand new this year. They play Saturday at Mercer by the way, if you want to check this stuff out. And Robin Little played college basketball at Lamar and played for the Huge and Energy All Women's Tackle Flag Football And she said that when this girls flag football high school products started out, there was tremendous response for the Travis High School faithful for tryouts.

I had over a hundred girls come to try out. Yes, I had a hundred girls come to tryouts for the most part that wanted to try out, and they're excited, you know, anything new, anything new that they want to And some of the girls around here are a lot of We have a lot of athletes, so even the ones that don't play like like sports, they were like, yeah, sign us.

Up, let's go what does it mean for you as a coach, because you've coached other things as well. Just to see this upstart program, the Houston Texan supporting flag football in the community. I've been out there at Mercer and I'm just amazed. It's just hot and cold running flag football day long out of fit air.

It's awesome to see.

For me, being that I've played flag football, to sit out there and actually coach high school you know girls right now, it's a surreal moment sometimes to actually coach it.

All right. So you played for the Houston Energy, correct did.

For fifteen years?

I've played, yes, all right?

So this is tackle football for women. And what was it like that experience for you playing for the Energy.

Well, when I stopped playing collegiate basketball, I went straight into football, and football, by far, it tester if you're truly an athlete, because I've seen girls come in think and they're tough, and see them turn around and walk back out. But I had the best time of my life honestly playing football. The teammates I the friends that I came with, the only certain cities had when the uson Energy and we started. Now, you know, Houston has more than one team like Houston has three or four teams, but when we played it was only you know, one team, Houston versus Dallas, Houston versus Atlanta.

It was only a couple of teams that were out there.

There's coach Robin Little of Travis High School's girls flag football team.

Great to visit with her.

That's part of a longer podcast, but she's one of our coaches of the week in flag football. The Texans sponsoring pushing funding flag football for girls, trying to turn it into a UIL sport. Houston, Austin, El Paso, and the Cowboys are involved too.

We won't talk about them though.

This is a big cause for the Houston Texans Foundation getting the girls further involved in high school sports. And again mercer in my neck of the woods four Pink County on Saturday to check out the action as there will be hot and cold running games all day long.

All right.

For OTAs Mini Camp, it is going to be that June tenth, twelfth, that area right there. All the teams I think are having mini camp that week. So OTAs backed that up a couple of weeks will probably be out there at least one day per week. Each of those two and Johnny and I will be on the air later those days to let you know how things are looking out there on the turf of the Houston Methodist Training Center camp wait for that Mini camp should be two three days. Sometimes they cancel that last day, but you never know what's up to Miko Ryan's sleeve as they get ready for twenty twenty five in training camp. I got nothing on that yet, nothing, but just look at the calendar here and you can determine where the season gets started September seventh. Back that up six weeks and that's usually around the start of training camp. But we'll have more formality for you on that soon enough. I would expect that's going to do it for the show tonight. Area forty five is coming up next. They'll break down, they'll rockets, chances to force a Game seven, they'll break down everything going on with your astros, all of it, and of course talk about the Texans, because why wouldn't they.

Area forty five next. Have a great night, Go Texans.