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"Christians want the same thing transhumanists do. We just believe we're already going to get it."
From the BOLD Awards in Barcelona, Keith Koo sits down with Jose Luis Cordeiro - author of "The Death of Death" and one of the world's leading voices on transhumanism - for the companion conversation to this week's Silicon Valley Insider. The SVI episode covered the science of cryonics and the 2045 forecast. On Ten Talents the question shifts: what does any of this mean for a Christian worldview?
Origin. Purpose. Ethics. Destiny. The four questions every worldview has to answer - and the answers a Christian and a transhumanist give to each.
Inside this episode:

How modern medicine has redefined the line between life and death
The British tourist reanimated after six hours in a frozen river in the Pyrenees
An Italian climber reanimated after eight and a half hours
Biblical lifespans: Methuselah at 969, Noah at 600+, Moses at 120, King David's 70-80
Life expectancy in the Roman Empire (20 years) compared to today (80)
Animal life extension: mice doubled, fruit flies quadrupled, C. elegans extended tenfold
Game theory and why longer lives may produce more cooperation, not less
Cordeiro's response to the dictator-living-forever question
The faith-and-science question: contradiction or complement?
Jose's surprising line on Jesus and a thousand-year life that most Christians have never heard a transhumanist say out loud

In Segment 2, Keith follows the conversation with a reflection on apologetics, drawing on the work of Oxford mathematician John Lennox. The reframe: this is not faith versus no faith. It is a conversation between competing forms of faith. One puts confidence in technology and human progress. The other puts it in a person and a promise. Both require belief about what cannot yet be seen.
Plus practical guidance for having spiritual conversations at work, at the dinner table, and wherever they happen: don't lead with answers, listen for what the other person is hoping for, plant seeds, and remember that not every conversation finishes in one sitting.
"The Death of Death" by Jose Luis Cordeiro - available on Amazon in 15 languages.
Ten Talents with Keith Koo. More at xtalents.com.
Contact: info@svin.biz
Instagram: @techmaven
X: @techmaven_keith

Chapter markers

00:00 Searching For Meaning
00:44 Meet Jose Cordeiro
01:46 Four Big Questions
02:42 Choosing Life Over Death
03:39 Cryonics And Changing Death
06:43 Longer Lives More Purpose
09:39 Can Science Beat Aging
10:26 Morality Of Immortality
11:50 Faith And Transhumanism
13:06 Science Moves Fast
14:30 Segment Two Reflection
15:23 Dinner And Worldviews
17:11 What Transhumanists Seek
19:19 Technology As Faith
22:23 DNA Origins And Cryonics
24:07 How To Have Conversations
26:37 Where My Faith Anchors
27:20 Final Encouragement
27:46 Closing And Outro

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"Christians want the same thing transhumanists do. We just believe we're already going to get it." From the BOLD Awards in Barcelona, Keith Koo sits down with Jose Luis Cordeiro - author of "The Death of Death" and one of the world's leading voices on transhumanism - for the companion conversation to this week's Silicon Valley Insider. The SVI episode covered the science of cryonics and the 2045 forecast. On Ten Talents the question shifts: what does any of this mean for a Christian worldview? Origin. Purpose. Ethics. Destiny. The four questions every worldview has to answer - and the answers a Christian and a transhumanist give to each. Inside this episode:
How modern medicine has redefined the line between life and death The British tourist reanimated after six hours in a frozen river in the Pyrenees An Italian climber reanimated after eight and a half hours Biblical lifespans: Methuselah at 969, Noah at 600+, Moses at 120, King David's 70-80 Life expectancy in the Roman Empire (20 years) compared to today (80) Animal life extension: mice doubled, fruit flies quadrupled, C. elegans extended tenfold Game theory and why longer lives may produce more cooperation, not less Cordeiro's response to the dictator-living-forever question The faith-and-science question: contradiction or complement? Jose's surprising line on Jesus and a thousand-year life that most Christians have never heard a transhumanist say out loud
In Segment 2, Keith follows the conversation with a reflection on apologetics, drawing on the work of Oxford mathematician John Lennox. The reframe: this is not faith versus no faith. It is a conversation between competing forms of faith. One puts confidence in technology and human progress. The other puts it in a person and a promise. Both require belief about what cannot yet be seen. Plus practical guidance for having spiritual conversations at work, at the dinner table, and wherever they happen: don't lead with answers, listen for what the other person is hoping for, plant seeds, and remember that not every conversation finishes in one sitting. "The Death of Death" by Jose Luis Cordeiro - available on Amazon in 15 languages. Ten Talents with Keith Koo. More at xtalents.com. Contact: info@svin.biz Instagram: @techmaven X: @techmaven_keith
Chapter markers
00:00 Searching For Meaning 00:44 Meet Jose Cordeiro 01:46 Four Big Questions 02:42 Choosing Life Over Death 03:39 Cryonics And Changing Death 06:43 Longer Lives More Purpose 09:39 Can Science Beat Aging 10:26 Morality Of Immortality 11:50 Faith And Transhumanism 13:06 Science Moves Fast 14:30 Segment Two Reflection 15:23 Dinner And Worldviews 17:11 What Transhumanists Seek 19:19 Technology As Faith 22:23 DNA Origins And Cryonics 24:07 How To Have Conversations 26:37 Where My Faith Anchors 27:20 Final Encouragement 27:46 Closing And Outro CONNECT WITH TEN TALENTS If this conversation gave you something to think about, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss an episode. Share it with someone who has these conversations at the dinner table or in the workplace. A five-star rating on Apple Podcasts helps new listeners find the show. Website: xtalents.com Advisory: keithkoo.com Email: info@svin.biz Instagram: @techmaven X (Twitter): @techmaven_keith LinkedIn: KeithKoo

Everyone has something unique to offer the world, Ten Talents wants to help people discover their gifts and use them to make a difference. Join Host Keith Koo for Ten Talents a ministry program bringing you interviews with some of America's premier leaders in finance, technology, sports, entrepreneurs and ministry. Learn how Jesus is using these individuals to change lives, and you just might be encourage in how Jesus wants to use you. 

Everyone has something unique to offer the world, Ten Talents wants to help people discover their gifts and use them to make a difference. Join Host Keith Koo for Ten Talents a ministry program bringing you interviews with some of America's premier leaders in finance, technology, sports, entrepreneurs and ministry. Learn how Jesus is using these individuals to change lives, and you just might be encourage in how Jesus wants to use you.