Technology can’t save the world from all its ills. Humans need to play their part, too. But technology may just be the most powerful, scalable tool we have to tackle some of our biggest issues: issues like climate change, poverty, hunger, and access to clean water.

What happens when you put two futurists — both passionate about sustainability — in the same podcast and ask them why acronyms like 5G, IoT and 4IR might just help save the world?

Well, you’re about to find out. Our two guests on today’s show are leading futurist and author, Mark Pesce and fellow futurist, inventor and adventurer, Sally Dominguez.