Just days out from the major UN climate change conference COP26, listen to our COP26 Adviser Ben Abraham chat with Helen Plume, a Principal Analyst at the Ministry for the Environment. She's represented New Zealand in almost every climate negotiation over the last thirty years, and has travelled across the globe - from Montreal to Marrakesh - working on some of the thorniest issues of our time.

Ever wondered what really goes on at these global climate change conferences? Listen to them pull back the curtain!