From Western Australia, this is talking vision. And now here's your host, Sam, calling.

From Western Australia, this is talking vision. And now here's your host, Sam, calling.

Hello, everyone. It's great to be here with you. And for the next half hour, we talk matters of blindness and low vision.

Hello, everyone. It's great to be here with you. And for the next half hour, we talk matters of blindness and low vision.

The gym itself and the actual piece of equipment they hand, they're not blind or vision friendly, handles a lot of it. Maybe they have little hands tucked away to adjust the piece of equipment. Now, without knowing where everything is, you might touch the wrong place in India. So that's where it's important to really get familiar with each piece of equipment in the gym and know where the danger points are and what you need to be pressing to to adjust that piece of equipment.

The gym itself and the actual piece of equipment they hand, they're not blind or vision friendly, handles a lot of it. Maybe they have little hands tucked away to adjust the piece of equipment. Now, without knowing where everything is, you might touch the wrong place in India. So that's where it's important to really get familiar with each piece of equipment in the gym and know where the danger points are and what you need to be pressing to to adjust that piece of equipment.

Welcome to the program you just heard from all abilities bodybuilder and weightlifter Jason Weiter. They're talking about the accessibility challenges he's experienced as a gym user after losing his vision and some strategies, he's found useful to overcoming them. He joined me on a panel discussion with blind soccer referee and personal trainer Sebastien Petrovich to talk about accessible ways to keep fit and healthy this winter. And also, they promote some upcoming blind sports and recreation events. That interview's coming up next. And then later in the show, we wrap up with some news and information. And Francis joins the show with Obeida recommended. I hope you enjoy this week's episode of Talking Vision. Keeping fit and active is important for everybody of any thought level, but in the middle of winter, the cold and dark of the outdoors can be less than inviting. Well, to have a chat with us about the best ways to keep active in the cold, as well as telling us more about some blind sports events coming up. We've got Jason White and Sebastian Petrovich with us. Welcome to you both. Thank you so much for being on the show. Now, firstly, Jason, I'll start with you, I understand you're an all abilities bodybuilder and weightlifter, how did you get into that? And I guess tell us a bit more about you more generally?

Welcome to the program you just heard from all abilities bodybuilder and weightlifter Jason Weiter. They're talking about the accessibility challenges he's experienced as a gym user after losing his vision and some strategies, he's found useful to overcoming them. He joined me on a panel discussion with blind soccer referee and personal trainer Sebastien Petrovich to talk about accessible ways to keep fit and healthy this winter. And also, they promote some upcoming blind sports and recreation events. That interview's coming up next. And then later in the show, we wrap up with some news and information. And Francis joins the show with Obeida recommended. I hope you enjoy this week's episode of Talking Vision. Keeping fit and active is important for everybody of any thought level, but in the middle of winter, the cold and dark of the outdoors can be less than inviting. Well, to have a chat with us about the best ways to keep active in the cold, as well as telling us more about some blind sports events coming up. We've got Jason White and Sebastian Petrovich with us. Welcome to you both. Thank you so much for being on the show. Now, firstly, Jason, I'll start with you, I understand you're an all abilities bodybuilder and weightlifter, how did you get into that? And I guess tell us a bit more about you more generally?

Sure. Well, I go back to the weightlifting bodybuilding first. I got into that at a very young age when I say young would have been my early mid-teens, where I received a free voucher to one of the local gyms and I went down, had a trial session and fell in love with lifting weights. That all then sort of led to me having a backyard game that was made of metal pieces of metal bar and brakes, and just started training regularly from that until proceeding on to going to the gym. And over time, I recognized some development in my physique and thought these could be a good way of making a sport or a kind of a show of. So I thought, Well, why not try bodybuilding competitions? And that's way that way, but then my health sort of took a turn for the worse going into when I was about twenty four and I'm sort of getting into the prime of my listening. And I had to put all sorts of weight lifting on hold until, you know, until pretty resolutions, I bet 10 years ago when I had a kidney pancreas transplant that allowed me to get active again. And yes, I lost my vision through the diabetes that I had. And that's also sort of limited how I could, you know, I get used to this at all. They have all designed for people like

Sure. Well, I go back to the weightlifting bodybuilding first. I got into that at a very young age when I say young would have been my early mid-teens, where I received a free voucher to one of the local gyms and I went down, had a trial session and fell in love with lifting weights. That all then sort of led to me having a backyard game that was made of metal pieces of metal bar and brakes, and just started training regularly from that until proceeding on to going to the gym. And over time, I recognized some development in my physique and thought these could be a good way of making a sport or a kind of a show of. So I thought, Well, why not try bodybuilding competitions? And that's way that way, but then my health sort of took a turn for the worse going into when I was about twenty four and I'm sort of getting into the prime of my listening. And I had to put all sorts of weight lifting on hold until, you know, until pretty resolutions, I bet 10 years ago when I had a kidney pancreas transplant that allowed me to get active again. And yes, I lost my vision through the diabetes that I had. And that's also sort of limited how I could, you know, I get used to this at all. They have all designed for people like

Nick and Sebastian. Tell us a bit about you. I believe you've been a referee of blind soccer for some time now and also believe you're a personal trainer, I guess. Tell us a bit more about those.

Nick and Sebastian. Tell us a bit about you. I believe you've been a referee of blind soccer for some time now and also believe you're a personal trainer, I guess. Tell us a bit more about those.

Well, all my life I've been sort of have ambitions to become a professional soccer player, and I did that in in Serbia and also Australia, the National Soccer League and AFL. And since I got a little bit sort of towards the end, I started creating ideas around volunteering and being around sports and disadvantage. So I basically flew to Japan and lived there for a year, and then I met some people there and I had a passion for the blind football industry, which was already had been at a higher level in Japan. So I kept involved in Melbourne and all the local blind football development, and I had to realise when I went to Japan that there was there was quite an interesting things about learning about how to become a referee. It was really it really interests me and I thought, Well, there's no one in Australia who has a qualification, and I thought it might come in handy if we have some games in in Australia. And so I was invited to Malaysia and did a special course and which is really intense and then watched some professional Championship games in Malaysia at that same time to sit alone and develop and bring all that knowledge back to Melbourne and and just trying to be around the blind soccer players as much as possible with the training pitch and then leading to, you know, the last few years where we're starting to actually get more numbers up and develop more of a five a side matches and stuff like that in theory. So I became qualified, still involved as coaching and mentoring towards the players in Melbourne. And then, yeah, just trying to be around the players as much as possible and waiting for that next soccer game, which we're desperate to get really, really soon. So, yeah, okay.

Well, all my life I've been sort of have ambitions to become a professional soccer player, and I did that in in Serbia and also Australia, the National Soccer League and AFL. And since I got a little bit sort of towards the end, I started creating ideas around volunteering and being around sports and disadvantage. So I basically flew to Japan and lived there for a year, and then I met some people there and I had a passion for the blind football industry, which was already had been at a higher level in Japan. So I kept involved in Melbourne and all the local blind football development, and I had to realise when I went to Japan that there was there was quite an interesting things about learning about how to become a referee. It was really it really interests me and I thought, Well, there's no one in Australia who has a qualification, and I thought it might come in handy if we have some games in in Australia. And so I was invited to Malaysia and did a special course and which is really intense and then watched some professional Championship games in Malaysia at that same time to sit alone and develop and bring all that knowledge back to Melbourne and and just trying to be around the blind soccer players as much as possible with the training pitch and then leading to, you know, the last few years where we're starting to actually get more numbers up and develop more of a five a side matches and stuff like that in theory. So I became qualified, still involved as coaching and mentoring towards the players in Melbourne. And then, yeah, just trying to be around the players as much as possible and waiting for that next soccer game, which we're desperate to get really, really soon. So, yeah, okay.

Yeah. Oh, fantastic. Now we'll get onto the topic of, you know, keeping fit and active now. So Jason, we'll start with you. What some, what's the best way from your perspective for people who are blind or have low vision to keep fit and active, you know, during the winter months when it is so cold and dark and, you know, bit bit less motivation there?

Yeah. Oh, fantastic. Now we'll get onto the topic of, you know, keeping fit and active now. So Jason, we'll start with you. What some, what's the best way from your perspective for people who are blind or have low vision to keep fit and active, you know, during the winter months when it is so cold and dark and, you know, bit bit less motivation there?

Yeah, that's true. People then do tend to lose a bit of motivation during the colder months that are down. We tend to want to sleep in longer and get in bed early as Lazio, I guess emails shorter than what that would be during this warmer climate. But if you motivated enough, I think there's ways that they can do it. Oh, I say you're looking to take back the rug up and go for a walk or a bike ride with someone. Look at indoor activities, there's plenty out there and that's just going to the gym or a pool or taking part in some classes and a dance class is a great way to keep warm and they're indoors. And then there's also other options as well. So you could look at indoor sports, for instance, blind tennis, global dancing with this blind AFL. And even if not, you can train at home so much in the way of equipment. You can use bodyweight exercises at home with family members, friends or a support worker to come in and help you perform some activities at home.

Yeah, that's true. People then do tend to lose a bit of motivation during the colder months that are down. We tend to want to sleep in longer and get in bed early as Lazio, I guess emails shorter than what that would be during this warmer climate. But if you motivated enough, I think there's ways that they can do it. Oh, I say you're looking to take back the rug up and go for a walk or a bike ride with someone. Look at indoor activities, there's plenty out there and that's just going to the gym or a pool or taking part in some classes and a dance class is a great way to keep warm and they're indoors. And then there's also other options as well. So you could look at indoor sports, for instance, blind tennis, global dancing with this blind AFL. And even if not, you can train at home so much in the way of equipment. You can use bodyweight exercises at home with family members, friends or a support worker to come in and help you perform some activities at home.

That's right. And Sebastian, did you have anything to add to that? I'll ask you the same question

That's right. And Sebastian, did you have anything to add to that? I'll ask you the same question

that as you know, it all starts with even anyone with even no vision. It all comes down to motivation and also the encouragement and the people around you. And to be invited to these, you know, fitness and social events, which it's either a sport match or whether it's just a social sort of a come, come and try. I think that is a huge asset for anyone who is thinking of or wanting to get out there. It's just break the ice and, you know, give it a go and just sort of connect with new people. And it could really, really open up the mind to new possibilities and new ideas and creative people. So I think fitness is a whole package. And you know, the really important thing is, you know, just preparing the bag, the bottle, you know, the nice sportswear and stuff like that, just stretching. Slowly easing into it and rushing, and just it's always good to just try once and see how you go, and that could spark something new to some new fitness ideas. And yeah, so yeah, having someone at the gym with you and assisting you is always good. And, you know, listen to the music and keeping the adrenaline pumping. These are all sorts of different things that can motivate you. But all in all, you really need people to welcome you and have different options as well. So I think that's the key to keeping as well.

that as you know, it all starts with even anyone with even no vision. It all comes down to motivation and also the encouragement and the people around you. And to be invited to these, you know, fitness and social events, which it's either a sport match or whether it's just a social sort of a come, come and try. I think that is a huge asset for anyone who is thinking of or wanting to get out there. It's just break the ice and, you know, give it a go and just sort of connect with new people. And it could really, really open up the mind to new possibilities and new ideas and creative people. So I think fitness is a whole package. And you know, the really important thing is, you know, just preparing the bag, the bottle, you know, the nice sportswear and stuff like that, just stretching. Slowly easing into it and rushing, and just it's always good to just try once and see how you go, and that could spark something new to some new fitness ideas. And yeah, so yeah, having someone at the gym with you and assisting you is always good. And, you know, listen to the music and keeping the adrenaline pumping. These are all sorts of different things that can motivate you. But all in all, you really need people to welcome you and have different options as well. So I think that's the key to keeping as well.

OK, now fantastic. That's some wonderful advice from both of you there. So thank you very much, Farah for sharing. Now, Jason, we'll go to you for a bit. What are some of the obstacles or the challenges you faced after you lost your vision, for example, with with equipment at the gym that maybe hasn't been accessible? And how did you overcome those those challenges?

OK, now fantastic. That's some wonderful advice from both of you there. So thank you very much, Farah for sharing. Now, Jason, we'll go to you for a bit. What are some of the obstacles or the challenges you faced after you lost your vision, for example, with with equipment at the gym that maybe hasn't been accessible? And how did you overcome those those challenges?

Yeah, that's a really good question, because gyms really aren't designed that well for people. Many of the gyms that I do go to, there's a lot of overhanging bars or high white lights or high high pieces of handles that you always love to knock into in some of the white carriers have little bits of jut out. So generally around my head level, so I find one. Once we learn, we all pieces of equipment. And what parts of getting out? That's one good ways of learning and recognizing the floor, playing and wearing a hat. So my own and making that. But wearing a hat is likely to hit the rim of a hat first than your head, so that's another good way. Jim Loading isn't the greatest as well. So a lot of the the way it's set up in the lighting, the floors and the equipment can contrast, especially the white plates on the floors. So and other members generally. I mean, most are good for a while, but some won't, and they're tripping hazards. And as I mentioned before, you doc falls in some games, Doc White's if you don't have good control, you then missile that other night outside the gym itself and the actual piece of equipment by hand. They're not again blind or vision friendly handles. A lot of these days I have little hands with tucked away to adjust the piece of equipment now, without knowing where in the news, you might touch the wrong pacing yourself. So that's where it's important to really get familiar with each piece of equipment in the gym and know where the danger points are and what you need to be pressing to to adjust at pace with equipment

Yeah, that's a really good question, because gyms really aren't designed that well for people. Many of the gyms that I do go to, there's a lot of overhanging bars or high white lights or high high pieces of handles that you always love to knock into in some of the white carriers have little bits of jut out. So generally around my head level, so I find one. Once we learn, we all pieces of equipment. And what parts of getting out? That's one good ways of learning and recognizing the floor, playing and wearing a hat. So my own and making that. But wearing a hat is likely to hit the rim of a hat first than your head, so that's another good way. Jim Loading isn't the greatest as well. So a lot of the the way it's set up in the lighting, the floors and the equipment can contrast, especially the white plates on the floors. So and other members generally. I mean, most are good for a while, but some won't, and they're tripping hazards. And as I mentioned before, you doc falls in some games, Doc White's if you don't have good control, you then missile that other night outside the gym itself and the actual piece of equipment by hand. They're not again blind or vision friendly handles. A lot of these days I have little hands with tucked away to adjust the piece of equipment now, without knowing where in the news, you might touch the wrong pacing yourself. So that's where it's important to really get familiar with each piece of equipment in the gym and know where the danger points are and what you need to be pressing to to adjust at pace with equipment

and sebastian, or go to the other side of things and get your perspective as a as a personal trainer who works in and around gyms. What are some hints and tips that you could give people who are blind or have low vision from from your side of things that could help them out in the gym to make their experience accessible?

and sebastian, or go to the other side of things and get your perspective as a as a personal trainer who works in and around gyms. What are some hints and tips that you could give people who are blind or have low vision from from your side of things that could help them out in the gym to make their experience accessible?

Oh, it's you know, there's so many different varieties of gyms. There's also a heritage style with a lot of exit points and also lifts. For one thing, I did notice by assisting people with some sort of low vision and also with physical injuries is that, you know, like you've got swimming pools and you've got collars, you know that they might not see that's very close to the swimming pool and things like that. When they're walking safely to get out there, they're very important the equipment and little steps and all the little lifts. I think it all comes down to when I'm doing exercises for people and with them and assisting them. I'm actually getting a feel for what it feels like for them and asking them a lot of questions. But what I feel is really important is the actual person who has a lot of vision or the one in the gym is to speak out and, you know, get that customer service and perception or management, let them know that the lift isn't working or things that they can improve that could help them or tailor tailored to then that could actually help the teams improve their, you know, accessibility and, you know, their colors and equipment and handles and, you know, distances between the rowing machines and walking behind each machine. And this the little things can be big things for people who you know, really are desperate to have, you know, that safety aspect in the gym. And I think that the person who is in a situation where they are feeling a little bit more worried or stressed about these small things which are important to them, they really need to communicate these things where they feel that the gym can improve and don't feel shy to give that knowledge and pass on the knowledge to the gym. Because, you know, I think most sports and is willing to listen a lot more to each individual customer service needs and also being able to wanting to improve. And wanting to have that extra edge over other teams, so I think that's very important.

Oh, it's you know, there's so many different varieties of gyms. There's also a heritage style with a lot of exit points and also lifts. For one thing, I did notice by assisting people with some sort of low vision and also with physical injuries is that, you know, like you've got swimming pools and you've got collars, you know that they might not see that's very close to the swimming pool and things like that. When they're walking safely to get out there, they're very important the equipment and little steps and all the little lifts. I think it all comes down to when I'm doing exercises for people and with them and assisting them. I'm actually getting a feel for what it feels like for them and asking them a lot of questions. But what I feel is really important is the actual person who has a lot of vision or the one in the gym is to speak out and, you know, get that customer service and perception or management, let them know that the lift isn't working or things that they can improve that could help them or tailor tailored to then that could actually help the teams improve their, you know, accessibility and, you know, their colors and equipment and handles and, you know, distances between the rowing machines and walking behind each machine. And this the little things can be big things for people who you know, really are desperate to have, you know, that safety aspect in the gym. And I think that the person who is in a situation where they are feeling a little bit more worried or stressed about these small things which are important to them, they really need to communicate these things where they feel that the gym can improve and don't feel shy to give that knowledge and pass on the knowledge to the gym. Because, you know, I think most sports and is willing to listen a lot more to each individual customer service needs and also being able to wanting to improve. And wanting to have that extra edge over other teams, so I think that's very important.

I'm Sam Cully, and you've been listening to Talking Vision on Vision Australia, Rania associated stations of our pitch and the community radio network. If you'd like to find out more about the program, like where to find your local radio frequency or listen to past programs, you can find all this info and more on the Talking Vision web page. Just tight. Talking vision into your search engine. Or you can find the program on the podcast app of your choice or through their Vision Australia Library. And now please enjoy the second half of this week's interview with Jason and Sebastian. I've been speaking today with bodybuilder and weightlifter Jason Weiter and blind soccer referee and personal trainer Sebastien Petrovich. So Jason, understand there's a series of all abilities, bodybuilding events coming up. Could you tell us a bit more about them?

I'm Sam Cully, and you've been listening to Talking Vision on Vision Australia, Rania associated stations of our pitch and the community radio network. If you'd like to find out more about the program, like where to find your local radio frequency or listen to past programs, you can find all this info and more on the Talking Vision web page. Just tight. Talking vision into your search engine. Or you can find the program on the podcast app of your choice or through their Vision Australia Library. And now please enjoy the second half of this week's interview with Jason and Sebastian. I've been speaking today with bodybuilder and weightlifter Jason Weiter and blind soccer referee and personal trainer Sebastien Petrovich. So Jason, understand there's a series of all abilities, bodybuilding events coming up. Could you tell us a bit more about them?

Yeah, absolutely. So the organization that I was called, I can pay, and that's all I can for sure. And they've got a division among their competitions. It's the physically challenged. So this includes anybody of any sort of disability who can't train as a as a mainstream fitness, personal or competitive pool. So in October, the second and third we've got the ice and muscle model shape, which is being held at the Valley Racecourse and then competing in that allows you the opportunity to then qualify to go into the well, the Australian Professional and Amateur Competition, which is being held at the Gold Coast on October the 16th and 17th. There are two of them. I mean, I do take a lot of preparation to get both what you would want to start training. Well, started last year, but again, it's an attempt to every categories of people in wheelchairs, people with light vision, people with physical disability and people that have a intellectual disability.

Yeah, absolutely. So the organization that I was called, I can pay, and that's all I can for sure. And they've got a division among their competitions. It's the physically challenged. So this includes anybody of any sort of disability who can't train as a as a mainstream fitness, personal or competitive pool. So in October, the second and third we've got the ice and muscle model shape, which is being held at the Valley Racecourse and then competing in that allows you the opportunity to then qualify to go into the well, the Australian Professional and Amateur Competition, which is being held at the Gold Coast on October the 16th and 17th. There are two of them. I mean, I do take a lot of preparation to get both what you would want to start training. Well, started last year, but again, it's an attempt to every categories of people in wheelchairs, people with light vision, people with physical disability and people that have a intellectual disability.

OK. And also if if people aren't perhaps into bodybuilding or weightlifting, but they'd like to get active another way, what what would some other events be coming up? For example, there's blind tennis and some come and try days that are coming up. Perhaps?

OK. And also if if people aren't perhaps into bodybuilding or weightlifting, but they'd like to get active another way, what what would some other events be coming up? For example, there's blind tennis and some come and try days that are coming up. Perhaps?

Yeah, absolutely. So I Typekit blind Norwegian tennis as well. Now that's played at Tennis World, at the Melbourne tennis enough, and that's every Friday night. We start the seniors at 6:30 and we're going to about eight o'clock and an hour before that. We have juniors. There's also a couple of other local clubs that put on blind tennis training sessions as well. So my local club and kill bet does one. And I know there's one in Florida. I believe it does it as well, and it's starting to get one happening in Geelong. That's my understanding, and that's a really good way to keep active people in similar circumstances, and they have competitions that are coming up. I believe next month there was going to be one in Sydney. The month after that, Adelaide and then Brisbane in October as well. So a better chance onto the body one have, which would keep me up in prison for a while.

Yeah, absolutely. So I Typekit blind Norwegian tennis as well. Now that's played at Tennis World, at the Melbourne tennis enough, and that's every Friday night. We start the seniors at 6:30 and we're going to about eight o'clock and an hour before that. We have juniors. There's also a couple of other local clubs that put on blind tennis training sessions as well. So my local club and kill bet does one. And I know there's one in Florida. I believe it does it as well, and it's starting to get one happening in Geelong. That's my understanding, and that's a really good way to keep active people in similar circumstances, and they have competitions that are coming up. I believe next month there was going to be one in Sydney. The month after that, Adelaide and then Brisbane in October as well. So a better chance onto the body one have, which would keep me up in prison for a while.

But yeah, very busy providing.

But yeah, very busy providing.

Yeah, definitely. So that's provided we don't get into lockdown and then other sports as well. We want AFL being played right now. I did try and make some Friday. Unfortunately, AFL is not my sport. I got lost. I to work it out as a place to watch in all the other competitors played pretty well. And then there's a lot of sports like I've seen blind archery, I've seen pedal pedal boat rowing. Or is blind sailings like the best way to find a lot of these by going through the disability and blind associations and organizations? beIN Sports and Recreation for your state or territory and really want to find activities, then you've got disability, sports and recreation. Or here in Victoria, we've got triple play, which is accessible, access all abilities. But there could be another one called Access for All. And then even a lot of the council and community websites and links and organisations, they all have different type of activities, so there's always something different coming up. One of the things I'm looking at trying to get developed in the not too distant future is having a talk to Ninja Warrior Academy to see if they would put on a regional blind Ninja Warrior course.

Yeah, definitely. So that's provided we don't get into lockdown and then other sports as well. We want AFL being played right now. I did try and make some Friday. Unfortunately, AFL is not my sport. I got lost. I to work it out as a place to watch in all the other competitors played pretty well. And then there's a lot of sports like I've seen blind archery, I've seen pedal pedal boat rowing. Or is blind sailings like the best way to find a lot of these by going through the disability and blind associations and organizations? beIN Sports and Recreation for your state or territory and really want to find activities, then you've got disability, sports and recreation. Or here in Victoria, we've got triple play, which is accessible, access all abilities. But there could be another one called Access for All. And then even a lot of the council and community websites and links and organisations, they all have different type of activities, so there's always something different coming up. One of the things I'm looking at trying to get developed in the not too distant future is having a talk to Ninja Warrior Academy to see if they would put on a regional blind Ninja Warrior course.

Oh wow. That'd be cool. That would be really exciting. Could we get fun? Yeah, absolutely. Now, Sebastian, what? What about you? What from your perspective, did you have anything to add that you'd like to tell people about?

Oh wow. That'd be cool. That would be really exciting. Could we get fun? Yeah, absolutely. Now, Sebastian, what? What about you? What from your perspective, did you have anything to add that you'd like to tell people about?

Oh, look and look what Jason was mentioning about the tennis and all these options. Such beautiful to hear these expanding programs out there and, you know, to connect people and and get them to understand where they are in the times and stuff like that. And even a training session can be a huge event as well. So I think my perspective from the football side of things, I would like to follow the AFL and football as well. And I have been out there as a as a referee behind the goals, tapping the making the noises to help, and I got a feel for that and that was great. But you know, we have a really, really amazing para five series coming up in just locked in for September the 5th and the it's going to be one of the first matches played. It's going to be South Melbourne versus Olympic FC, which is from Sydney off.

Oh, look and look what Jason was mentioning about the tennis and all these options. Such beautiful to hear these expanding programs out there and, you know, to connect people and and get them to understand where they are in the times and stuff like that. And even a training session can be a huge event as well. So I think my perspective from the football side of things, I would like to follow the AFL and football as well. And I have been out there as a as a referee behind the goals, tapping the making the noises to help, and I got a feel for that and that was great. But you know, we have a really, really amazing para five series coming up in just locked in for September the 5th and the it's going to be one of the first matches played. It's going to be South Melbourne versus Olympic FC, which is from Sydney off.

And yeah,

And yeah,

and this is basically a way of the planning process for the to try and get a National League in the future for the, you know, to more games, more games played competitively and Brisbane Olympic is involved. Perth Soccer Club is involved. Adelaide comments and stuff like that are all investing. You know their, you know, partnerships to help the Australian Blind Football Program and in conjunction with the Australian Paralympic Committee. You know, they're trying their best to have national training camps throughout the year, and we have normally three, but we've had a few cancelled. But based in Melbourne, the camps provide opportunities for players to train and at an advanced level and push for selection as part of the national squad. So we I'm going to be officiating as a referee for the very first National Para five series, which is the match day on the 5th of September at 11am at the Essendon Football AFL club, which is they've set up an actual perimeter up with the boards and onto the sound and all that is all suitable for the match, so that's going to be extremely good. Coming up on September the 5th, it's very exciting.

and this is basically a way of the planning process for the to try and get a National League in the future for the, you know, to more games, more games played competitively and Brisbane Olympic is involved. Perth Soccer Club is involved. Adelaide comments and stuff like that are all investing. You know their, you know, partnerships to help the Australian Blind Football Program and in conjunction with the Australian Paralympic Committee. You know, they're trying their best to have national training camps throughout the year, and we have normally three, but we've had a few cancelled. But based in Melbourne, the camps provide opportunities for players to train and at an advanced level and push for selection as part of the national squad. So we I'm going to be officiating as a referee for the very first National Para five series, which is the match day on the 5th of September at 11am at the Essendon Football AFL club, which is they've set up an actual perimeter up with the boards and onto the sound and all that is all suitable for the match, so that's going to be extremely good. Coming up on September the 5th, it's very exciting.

Congratulations, that's some that's really cool to to hear about that. So thank you very much to both of you. That was Jason Leiter and Sebastian Petrovich there, talking about keeping fit and active in winter, overcoming obstacles in the gym and promoting a lot of fantastic blonde sports and recreation opportunities coming up over the next weeks and months. Jason Sebastian, thank you so much for joining us today on Talking Vision. It's been a pleasure to chat with you both

Congratulations, that's some that's really cool to to hear about that. So thank you very much to both of you. That was Jason Leiter and Sebastian Petrovich there, talking about keeping fit and active in winter, overcoming obstacles in the gym and promoting a lot of fantastic blonde sports and recreation opportunities coming up over the next weeks and months. Jason Sebastian, thank you so much for joining us today on Talking Vision. It's been a pleasure to chat with you both

what you're saying. Thank you for having me.

what you're saying. Thank you for having me.

Sam, thank you. And it's amazing the work you're doing and, you know, keep up the great work and appreciate your time.

Sam, thank you. And it's amazing the work you're doing and, you know, keep up the great work and appreciate your time.

And now here's Frances Calland with a radar recommended

And now here's Frances Calland with a radar recommended

today's reader recommended is reckoning by Magda Semansky. In this extraordinary memoir, Magda describes her journey of self-discovery from a suburban childhood haunted by the demons of her father's espionage activities in wartime Poland and by her secret awareness of her sexuality to the complex dramas of adulthood, and her need to find out the truth about herself and her family. With courage and compassion, she addresses her own frailties and fears and asks the big questions about life, about the shadows we inherit and the gifts we pass on. Let's hear a sample of Magda S. Penske's book reckoning. It's narrated by Katrina Gulf.

today's reader recommended is reckoning by Magda Semansky. In this extraordinary memoir, Magda describes her journey of self-discovery from a suburban childhood haunted by the demons of her father's espionage activities in wartime Poland and by her secret awareness of her sexuality to the complex dramas of adulthood, and her need to find out the truth about herself and her family. With courage and compassion, she addresses her own frailties and fears and asks the big questions about life, about the shadows we inherit and the gifts we pass on. Let's hear a sample of Magda S. Penske's book reckoning. It's narrated by Katrina Gulf.

The building and all the people in it are half a world. A lifetime away from the charnel house of Europe. It is a strange place for talk of warriors. But the wife of Dr. Luke Ash understands history. She knows that entire civilizations vanish swept away like twigs in a tidal wave, taking all of their wisdom and achievement with them. She understands the protocols by which people are erased from history. She knows the horrible truth that while suffering is universal, the world cares more about some people's suffering than others. My father's body lies in a coffin draped in the red and white Polish flag. A pirated CD of Larry Adler playing Claire Dillon is warbling through a tinny P.A.. My father was self-taught on the harmonica and would spend hour after hour practicing in the seclusion of the laundry because we didn't have a shed, polkas, bazookas, old polish war songs and Larry Adler covers. Now, the older generation arrives with walking sticks and wheelchairs and titanium hips. These stately old poles sail into the church like a sagging fleet of tall ships, and I feel a pang of nostalgia.

The building and all the people in it are half a world. A lifetime away from the charnel house of Europe. It is a strange place for talk of warriors. But the wife of Dr. Luke Ash understands history. She knows that entire civilizations vanish swept away like twigs in a tidal wave, taking all of their wisdom and achievement with them. She understands the protocols by which people are erased from history. She knows the horrible truth that while suffering is universal, the world cares more about some people's suffering than others. My father's body lies in a coffin draped in the red and white Polish flag. A pirated CD of Larry Adler playing Claire Dillon is warbling through a tinny P.A.. My father was self-taught on the harmonica and would spend hour after hour practicing in the seclusion of the laundry because we didn't have a shed, polkas, bazookas, old polish war songs and Larry Adler covers. Now, the older generation arrives with walking sticks and wheelchairs and titanium hips. These stately old poles sail into the church like a sagging fleet of tall ships, and I feel a pang of nostalgia.

So that was reckoning by Magnus Urbanski. If you would like to borrow that book or any other books we have in the library. You're welcome to give a call on one 306 five four six five six. That's one 300 six five four six five six, or you can email the library at Library at Vision Australia dot org. That's library at Vision Australia dot org.

So that was reckoning by Magnus Urbanski. If you would like to borrow that book or any other books we have in the library. You're welcome to give a call on one 306 five four six five six. That's one 300 six five four six five six, or you can email the library at Library at Vision Australia dot org. That's library at Vision Australia dot org.

Thanks, Francis. And now finally, before we go, a bit of news and information to wrap up the program, this article's entitled Seeking a Smarter Way to Monitor Glaucoma. It was published on the 19th of July 2021 on the news section of the Center for Eye Research Australia website. One of the most challenging aspects of trade glaucoma is that many patients do not realize I have the disease until they've suffered irreversible vision loss. The problem is that about 50 percent of people with glaucoma are undiagnosed, says Dr Jorge Kong, an ophthalmologist and honorary researcher at the Centre for Research Australia. In the early stages, glaucoma is asymptomatic, so people will not know they have a problem even if someone has been diagnosed early. We sometimes see patients in clinic whose vision has deteriorated rapidly between appointments without them noticing it. Glaucoma is often known as the silent safe of sight because of the insidious nature of the disease, which damages the optic nerve, which sends visual signals between the eye and brain. In the early stages, because much of the damage occurs in the peripheral vision. Patients do not know they are losing their sight until significant damage has occurred. However, early detection and treatment can help prevent vision loss even when patients do attend an eye examination. It can sometimes be difficult to accurately assess the disease. The traditional visual field test, which relies on a patient clicking a button to indicate whether they can see small spots of light that are beamed into their peripheral vision, is subjective and difficult for many patients to complete. That was seeking a smarter way to monitor glaucoma. Published on the 19th of July 2021 on the Centre for Eye Research Australia website, if you'd like to read the whole article, head to the Centre for iResearch Research website at UWW Sarah dot org dot AGU. That's W W W dot c rea dot org dot a--you and search the title seeking a smarter way to monitor glaucoma. You can also find it the same way through the National Tribune web page at WW W Dot. National Tribune dot com dot a--you. That's W WW dot. National Tribune all one word dot com dot a u. And that's all I have time for today. You've been listening to Talking Vision Talking Vision is a production of Vision Australia radio. Thanks to all involved with putting the program together. And remember, we love your feedback and comments. You can contact us at Talking Vision at Vision Australia dot org that's talking vision or one word at Vision Australia dot org. But until next week, it's bye for now.

Thanks, Francis. And now finally, before we go, a bit of news and information to wrap up the program, this article's entitled Seeking a Smarter Way to Monitor Glaucoma. It was published on the 19th of July 2021 on the news section of the Center for Eye Research Australia website. One of the most challenging aspects of trade glaucoma is that many patients do not realize I have the disease until they've suffered irreversible vision loss. The problem is that about 50 percent of people with glaucoma are undiagnosed, says Dr Jorge Kong, an ophthalmologist and honorary researcher at the Centre for Research Australia. In the early stages, glaucoma is asymptomatic, so people will not know they have a problem even if someone has been diagnosed early. We sometimes see patients in clinic whose vision has deteriorated rapidly between appointments without them noticing it. Glaucoma is often known as the silent safe of sight because of the insidious nature of the disease, which damages the optic nerve, which sends visual signals between the eye and brain. In the early stages, because much of the damage occurs in the peripheral vision. Patients do not know they are losing their sight until significant damage has occurred. However, early detection and treatment can help prevent vision loss even when patients do attend an eye examination. It can sometimes be difficult to accurately assess the disease. The traditional visual field test, which relies on a patient clicking a button to indicate whether they can see small spots of light that are beamed into their peripheral vision, is subjective and difficult for many patients to complete. That was seeking a smarter way to monitor glaucoma. Published on the 19th of July 2021 on the Centre for Eye Research Australia website, if you'd like to read the whole article, head to the Centre for iResearch Research website at UWW Sarah dot org dot AGU. That's W W W dot c rea dot org dot a--you and search the title seeking a smarter way to monitor glaucoma. You can also find it the same way through the National Tribune web page at WW W Dot. National Tribune dot com dot a--you. That's W WW dot. National Tribune all one word dot com dot a u. And that's all I have time for today. You've been listening to Talking Vision Talking Vision is a production of Vision Australia radio. Thanks to all involved with putting the program together. And remember, we love your feedback and comments. You can contact us at Talking Vision at Vision Australia dot org that's talking vision or one word at Vision Australia dot org. But until next week, it's bye for now.

You can contact Vision Australia by phoning us anytime during business hours on one 300 eight four seven four six, that's one 300 eight four seven four double six or by visiting Vision Australia dot org. That's Vision Australia dot all.

You can contact Vision Australia by phoning us anytime during business hours on one 300 eight four seven four six, that's one 300 eight four seven four double six or by visiting Vision Australia dot org. That's Vision Australia dot all.