Monash PhD student William Chen is back on the program with Sam this week discussing his new research, including a study into how people in the blind and low vision community plan their journey and navigate their surroundings with technology, and the role that AI does or doesn't play in the process.

We also hear from Melanie Lane, choreographer of PHANTASM, a new dance work taking place at Chunky Move Studios in Melbourne from 7-16 August, with a tactile tour and audio described show on the final night. Melanie is joined by Kristina Arnott from Chunky Move to tell us all about PHANTASM and Chunky Move's work in the accessibility space.