Tess Herbert joins the show this week to have a chat with Leeanne from the Library about the upcoming In Conversation event in September between writers Sulari Gentill and Robert Gott, and Leeanne also gives us some new book recommendations 

Then later on in the program Sam speaks with Nicole Lee from People with Disabilities Australia to celebrate the organisation's 40th birthday, with both a look back over the highlights of the past 4 decades and also a look ahead to the future.