Dive into the supernatural with this thrilling episode featuring the hosts Sabrina and Corinne, of the "Two Girls One Ghost" podcast. Join us as we explore chilling tales and personal encounters with the paranormal. From ghostly apparitions to unexplained phenomena, the hosts share their most haunting stories and discuss the mysteries that lie beyond the veil of the known with Payne. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, this episode promises to send shivers down your spine and perhaps make you think twice about what lurks in the shadows.
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Okay, can we talk about your glasses real quick?
Yeah?
I like that.
It's cool.
I fuck it, it is hot. Are you seeing purple? Yeah?
It looks crazy.
Yeah, your glasses, the purple sunglasses you're wearing with purple shades. Are you seeing nothing but purple or what?
Yeah? It looks like a party in here.
That sounds inconvenient.
No, it's nice. Everything looks better.
I feel like that. Like if you wore that for a day, it'd fuck you up a little.
Bit, maybe, but right, don't knock until you try it. You get you have to put these on?
Where did you get those? A gas station?
You know?
I had my uh, I have my secrets, my fashionable places I shop at.
I really hope that you just went on Amazon and typed in purple sunglasses and like consciously ordered those.
A little bit of that you did?
You did you're like, you're nodding, like fuck, I did do that.
That's halfway that.
I got an ad on Instagram for colored sunglasses and they were like fifty dollars, and I was like, well, these are pretty, Mimi, I don't know if I want to write rock a meme for fifty dollars.
Nah.
So of course I searched Amazon and found some for like twelve bucks.
Nice. It's probably the same exact like its manufacturer.
Yeah, today's guest guess SISA, because there's two guests today.
Wait, let me let me guess who they are. Are they both men? Nope, there's one a man. Nope, Mmm, they're both women. Okay, I was just getting closed.
They're actually they're both girls. Well that's the name of their podcast. They're definitely women, but their podcast is called Two Girls, One Ghost.
I know the video you're talking about, though.
You're talking about two Girls, one cup.
Bro, that's what that's who we interviewed.
Yeah, yeah, we interviewed the one that pooped.
I think they all I kind of realized that, I mean, that's definitely from our generation. That's that's a millennial, old dirty video, early internet days, right, Two Girls, One Cup? If those listening do not know what that is. You don't need to look it up to find out, but you can. I'm sure it's still out there, but it's this really gross video. It's a lot of stuff going on. It's really bad. But yeah, that definitely scarred me as a kid. That's that's where they got the name from. It's a funny little riff on two Girls, one cup. I actually asked them about that in the interview. They've been podcasting honestly about as long as I have, which is seems like an eternity at this point. I think they started their podcast within the year after Up and Vanished.
So early days of podcasting.
The premise of their show is they talk about ghosts, aliens, and all things paranormal, and they do really deep dive research into these cases and they're both hilarious and witty and just to be straight up with you, Sabrina, one of the hosts is my girlfriend.
Grow Sicky.
You're gonna get cootiehew.
But during this interview we were not dating yet.
This is actually from a while ago, and one of the reasons I've kind of delayed putting it out was to not make things super weird. As we were, you know, getting to know each other. But it's genuinely a hilarious interview. Dylan was there when we did it. We were in Dallas and we had been at some convention and we were just exhausted from being in this hotel for days. It's just like a vacuum, this biodome. And I texted Dylan. We were both just chilling in our hotel rooms and I was like, Yo, thoughts on moving to this airbnb down the street right now?
And Dylan was reluctant.
You were, but Dylan doesn't like to leave places.
And I get it.
But the next thing you know, we're sitting on this patio and we're watching a movie and we're ordering candy and we're just having a damn sleepover.
And it was awesome. But the house that we stayed in was like this Barbie house.
I guess it's for like bachelorette parties or something, but it looks like a like a podcast set. If you go to the YouTube channel and watch the interview, Mike, I wish you could have seen it because it was weird, Like.
Yeah, I wasn't there. I saw the interview, though it's good. It's a really good interview I thought was fun, especially the interactive part. I gues it's not really interactive, but you know what I mean, you know, I'm talking about.
The Yeah, yeah, Well I'll go ahead and just you know, And I highly suggest if you guys are enjoying the podcast and you do want to see the visuals of these interviews, you can just by going to our YouTube channel.
Just search Talking Today.
Just go to YouTube and type in talking to Death. It comes right up. But in this interview, two Girls, One Ghost is hosted by Sabrina and Karen, and they are best friends and decided about six seven years ago that they wanted to make a podcast, and now they've been very successful and this is their full time job and they do really great deep dives into the paranormal. They actually even go out into the field and stay at some of the atonic places that shit that I wouldn't want to do, you know, I would go knock on a murderer's door before I.
Stay in some old haunted ass house.
I don't know why that is, but I'm not even saying that I fully believe in whatever. I just just don't want to touch it, you know, Like, how do you feel about that.
Mike.
Yeah, I'm very similar. I don't know if I really believe in ghosts, but I'm definitely afraid of them.
But you're not playing it. Yeah, you're not playing with them though.
Right, I'm not going to a haunted place. I'm not If I do go on some haunted adventure or something, I'm not feeling good about it.
Yeah, long story short, though. I think you know, both Mike and myself, regardless of what we believe in in terms of the paranormal or whatever, we're not playing around with it.
You know, we don't want to dabble with the devil.
But just to kind of spice things up in this interview, and I thought it'd be kind of fun. I purchase this little tiny Ouiji board and it's I mean it's tiny. It's so tiny that it's almost not functional. I pulled it out during the middle of the interview and we try.
To use it.
I played with my first Ouiji board, and even though it was all funny games, I was still kind of spooked.
This is a great interview.
I know you'll enjoy it, and if you haven't yet, go check out their podcast called Two Girls, One Ghost and Without further ado. Today's guests are Two Girls, One Ghost, Corinne and Sabrina.
Two Girls, One Ghost.
Hello, Hey, hey, our ghost is somewhere around here.
Yeah, sitting on your lap, probably like the haunted mansion. Ride's light. He spat, yes, give a little back. Then where's the name from?
It was like ghost, Yeah, where'd you get the name from?
Trauma were fired by an infamous film, well done Accidentally, I actually have never seen it.
Peaks Rot Domatoes.
Oh my gosh, probably one hundred, probably six sixty nine percent, I think probably.
Did you ever actually watch Two Girls, One Cup?
I think I I know I did. I watched fifteen seconds of it, okay, and it was horrifying. It was like when they were actively pooping in the cup.
And I was like, that's enough for me. Yeah.
I was a very innocent child, like I played with barbies until in high school, So like, I never watched it.
It might have been what changed everything.
Sent you on a new postwitch.
Yeah.
The name was her idea. It was no, I love the name, so she said it as a joke and I was like, wait a second, this is good marketing.
Then it flows yeah yeah, yeah, I've also seen that video.
It seems like you are troubled by it.
Yeah, mega, still picture it today?
Were you alone or in a group also? But not till a kink? Shame? If that's your thing, maybe you like it you're alone. But I asked them, but a little messy, little messy.
I mean I think I watched it with all of my friends and then usually I did one time, I need to find.
The video, but to find the two girls one coming, No, So I filmed. I was living at my friend's house, like I was like twenty two or something.
I feel like you remember exactly what you were wearing too, probably.
Yeah, free shirts back then, so yeah, it was like a blue shirt. But we turned on like the FaceTime camera on the MacBook and we played it for his mom, and I don't know, it's really kind of messed up now and I think about it. But her reaction was so fucking funny. Oh my gosh, she's like very animated. She was like, oh my god, we were just cracking up.
I was like that. I thought later, like I just showed my friend's mom two girls, one cup.
Yeah, did you watch the entire thing?
Why is there something special at the end or.
I don't know, I'm just curious.
I mean, I think so, yeah, I mean, it's not that long, is it. I have no idea.
I don't know. I only I don't think so. I think it's a it's a short one. But my parents I had to explain the name of our podcast to them and what it was based on because people kept laughing and I didn't want them to feel out of like in the dark, right, And so I eventually told them about it. It clearly was a traumatizing moment for my dad because he blocked it out of his memory. And then like a year later, he's with me and Sabrina before a live show in Boston and he's so proud of us. He's like, it's the best dad ever, and we're He hugs both of us AND's like, let's get a group picture. Two girls, one dad, and he's like proudly.
Saying, shut show.
Now that probably exists.
I mean, you type in two girls, one dad, there's gonna be a thousand step Dad videos and.
Ready to go.
That's someone's trauma, and and then it became their kink.
Yeah, I guess so it starts I think, yeah, well, yeah, as a kid, what were you like.
Quiet and very innocent, okay, and I like did everything my sister did.
Well, you're a middle child.
I'm a middle child, so I had Yeah, I feel like I was like shored quite a bit and.
So I just kept myself you see innocent, What do you mean like like.
I played with barbies in my closet until I was fifteen or sixteen years old.
Like mega grades and stuff and oh yeah, never got in trouble.
No, but I got in trouble once because this is like the it breaks my heart because I got pulled aside and told I was a bully. So basically, this kid got lice and he got sent home from school and the next day he came back and I was confused because I was like, oh, do you still have like do you still have lice?
And he said no.
And later that day the nurse came into our classroom and read a book about light and how like it's not okay to bully people, and.
My teacher made a whole speech. It was like you know who you.
Are, and then that's class or is beating for you? Like I can feel the I was like, oh who bullied him?
Who was it?
And then she pulled me aside after a class and was like, you know, it was you. So that's when I got in trouble.
But you're also probably a little concerned about getting lies. Oh for sure, You're like, do you still have it? Because you sit next to me.
Actually, why doesn't the whole class go to a life check at the nurse's office? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry the life check. That was the thing that was like a third grade thing for me.
Oh we should talk about I know this is your podcast, but you told us something about scoliosis checks.
I was just thinking that about trauma.
That was different.
So y'all never had that?
Yes, but I kept my clothes on. Okay, wait, you had to take your clothes off.
Not completely, but down to your underwear. I mean the whole locker room. Did I mean this? This is going to sound like really weird.
Okay, okay, And I cannot be the only one who's experienced this, I mean, I hope not. So if anyone's listening, please tell me if you've had to do this before. I was in sixth grade and the gym teacher like, instead of going to gym class that day, we all lined up in the locker room and stripped down to our underwear in a line, and when we got up to the teacher, we had to.
Bend over and they would check for a curvature in your back.
I guess I don't know why you have to be in your underwear for that.
I mean, I guess they need to see your spine. I guess you keep your pants on? Yeah the hell? Yeah?
How far away were they from you?
Oh?
They were right behind you, because I like touch your spine.
The mess up part is like, okay, let's say I had scoliosis, Now what you know? Fix my skull?
And also this is the.
Gym teacher doing that? Yeah, how are they qualified?
I don't know what.
Happened to, like an annual pediatrician checking you for things? I probably, but it was our school nurse who did it.
Okay, maybe it was the nurse. Was it was a guy?
Were you all lined up in a row?
Okay?
At least everyone else was around? Yeah?
Yeah, it was like, uh, it wasn't like coming to my office situation.
No, but it was very weird, like because usually in a guy's locker room, especially when you're in sixth grade, you're changing pretty quick.
You're trying to like your tunnel vision and you're like, everyone's embarrassed. It's always that one guy who's just way, way too comfortable.
You know, Yeah, and you're looking at yeah.
Yeah, they want to talk to you, like when they're naked and you're.
Like you're you're not blinking because you're making like it's.
Just like a car wreck. You want to look.
Yeah, just don't give me the option, because I'll take it. Man, Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm bad at that. Yeah, I look.
Yeah.
My looking has always got me in trouble. I'll just like realize I've been staring at someone and I'm.
Like, oh, sorry, I did the same thing.
It's hard when you like space out and stare at someone for a while. What were you like as a kid?
I was.
I guess I was more quiet.
I was always like writing stories as a kid, and back then it was probably a little bit weirder. It sounds all cool now, but I would get up late on the computer writing stories.
My dad was probably like, why doesn't you have more friends?
But look at where you are now, right? Is that how you got into filmmaking and documentaries?
Yeah. I was always just wanting to create stuff and so music videos.
Right, we watched that.
You posted it? I did.
Yeah, we didn't google Google and go deep.
Sure, but maybe after this we was so would you?
I thought it was really good. I can't believe you gave up on your musical still.
Time, right, Yeah, come back to her. Yeah.
People are surprised when they hear that, and I totally understand that because, like, if you were to know me from like a true crime podcast perspective Investigating and Unsolved Murder, yeah, you find out I was a rapper.
Yeah, you're like what Yeah, yeah, I get it.
How amazing was that though? Your first foray into podcasting and it was up and vanished?
Well, isn't this your first foray in podcasting? Yeah?
I guess so, yeah, yeah it is. We've just been doing it for so long and you had a season, So I almost think of this as being like one hundred podcasts.
In one Yeah, right, because you've been just I guess, over the years and evolving.
Yeah, spend what six years?
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it is kind of It was weird, but the point I was at in my life, I was kind of willing to take any risk to build my career and stop being this broke guy who was twenty seven, who felt like a letdown to you know, his family and friends who always thought like, oh man, you're gonna be a famous director one day, or you know. I was like, man, did I just do it wrong? Or did I like party too much? Or did I you know, take the wrong path.
I don't like it.
You know, well, how did you decide to go audio only? Being someone who would focused on video for a while.
I was actually concerned about that. I mean it was really just because Cereal. I listened to Cereal and I was like, holy shit, I'm this into an audio story. I didn't think that was possible with like my ADHD brain. Yeah, And I was kind of kicking around the idea of wanting to make a true crime documentary.
I just kind of had the thought of, you know, after watching The Jinks and making.
A Murderer, I'm like, Okay, how does one become the person who makes this stuff?
Do they just go do it? What are their credentials? Like they're all filmmakers and creators behind it?
And so I thought, maybe I'll make a podcast as a proof of concept to like go eventually do a documentary.
And so that was my plan, like it was just a stepping stone.
It wasn't going to be a thing building your portfolio.
Yeah, exactly, and that's why I just but that all change once I learned that this is its own business and I was having fun doing it and we just started making more podcasts.
So cool. Yeah, Krinn. What were you like as a kid. Oh?
Yeah, Oh.
I wasn't quiet.
I was weird.
I was whispering my secrets to the trees and still popular. But I did like to kind of like ruffle feathers. I was like a great friend and I belonged to a lot of friend groups. But I definitely tested my boundaries with the adults in my life. Like I did get in trouble one time in school, and it was in high school. I'd run for class council and it was my turn to make a poster advertising the dodgeball tournament. And I was very artistic, like I'm good at drawing and painting and all of that, and I had painted a pretty hyper realistic drawing of two hands really close together and two red balls right there, and I said, grab your balls, it's dodgeball time, and put them all over the high school, like sixteen seventeen. It makes so much sense.
Yeah, yeah, I truly over Did it go over their heads? Or were you in trouble for them?
No? I got called to the office.
Okay.
Our principal was so cool though, he's like, I think, I mean it is hilarious.
Market. Yeah. The art teacher is who she reported me twice for things I did, and I was like, are you trying to put me.
In a box?
I'm an artist.
She'd just not like you.
No, she didn't like me.
I had teacher who like just didn't like me. Yeah, most were cool, but like every now and then it'd be one teacher who.
Just like, I don't like that guy, right, which is so like it's a child, why are you an adult either? Yeah.
I had a teacher in high school who really did not like my sister and at parent teacher conferences because I had her after my sister had her, and this teacher told my mom she goes, I really didn't think i'd like Sabrina because I don't like a Lexus, but I love Sabrina.
So so you really were the teacher's pub.
I was a nerdy little like I never brushed my hair like it was always a mess. I wore like wicked T shirts every day, Like Broadway musicals are my favorite. Yeah, you're like Princess Diaries. You were me a thermopha before before she strained her hair.
Well, if you were a barbie girl growing up, how'd you get into the spooky stuff?
Oh?
I mean I grew up in a haunted house and my dad is like potentially possessed.
But yeah, let's unpack that for a second.
Okay, So he speaks another language in his sleep, one that doesn't exist, and he's now remarried the third time, and all of his wives have said the same thing. He did a past life aggression once and like his there or like the person running it was like, oh yeah, there's a past life that's trying to come through and take over your current life.
Okay, So another language? What does that sound like? It's not just gibberish?
Is it?
I do not know, I've never heard or is it just nonsense?
I've never heard it? I don't know. Also, his current wife, she's bilingual. She's Lithuanian, and so she speaks a bunch of different languages, and so I think she understands language and has identified it as sounding like a language. It's not just like mumbling or yeah, yeah, that's weird. It's not freaky.
That's very weird. So your house was haunted, Okay, how'd you know that?
Okay?
Well, I when I was so when we first moved into this house, I was probably like four, and I started having recurring nightmares. And in the nightmare, I'd wake up like as I was when I went to sleep, and I would see this figure in my doorway, and I felt like I had to follow it, and so I'd follow it down the hallway to my sister's room and I would see these black and white orbs fighting over her, and it was like always scary. I felt like my sister was in danger, and I'd wake up at that moment. I had this for years, and then when I was twenty one, I was at my college graduation dinner with my dad, my sister brother, and we were just talking about reocurring nightmares and I share this story and my dad like drops me off the party, you know, college graduation party afterwards, and he texts me and he's like, hey, do you have time tomorrow before I leave? I really need to talk to you about something you said tonight and I was like, okay, you can't just say that, Like, what are you talking about yet?
Now? Yeah?
Hello, And he was like, that dream you had wasn't a dream, It happened in real life. Then he goes on to tell me that when we first moved into the house, he had fallen asleep on the couch and woke up to like a weird noise and he thought it was just the TV. Turns it off and goes around the downstairs, closing all the doors, making sure everything's locked. And he starts going upstairs to where all of our bedrooms are, and like immediately feels like you know that feeling where someone's looking at you or in the house. Yeah, And he checks on me, I'm asleep. He checks my mom, she's asleep, and he starts going down the hallway to my sister's room. The air gets cold, like all of his instincts are telling him to run. He gets to my sister's door and he like touches the handle, opens it. All of the air is sucked out of the room turns ice cold. My sister's asleep in bed, eyes closed, her mouth opens, and out of her comes get out.
No.
Yeah, So he goes up to my sister and like shakes her awake and is like leave my daughter alone, picks her up to take her to bed, turns around and I'm sleepwalking in the doorway. So like my dream interpretation of it, I was witnessing all of it.
So you think your dreams weren't dreams.
I think they were my brain processing what I was seeing, like I was witnessing something dark trying to possess my sister.
Okay, and then like maybe the soul projecting out of your body could have been doing that or do you think that you were really experiencing that and then we'd go back to your bed and remember it as a dream the next day.
I don't know.
Yeah, there have been parts.
Yeah, like I've ashell traveled before, so maybe it's that.
Okay, what's that like scary?
I did it by accident and I woke up afterwards. Like the reason I woke up is because I heard something whisper in my ear. Wake up, like something scary is going to happen, like audible, Yeah, like you know what where people like spring up?
That's what I did.
I heard the whispering in my physical year, and my astral self came right back into my body and I sprung away.
Because when you actual project too, it's like almost into the astral plane. You're not exploring your own apartment or anything.
That time, I was exploring my own apartment. Oh you were, Yeah, I was like walking through the hallways.
If you had an experience like the like an actual projection.
Or would tell the one about yourself. Okay, Well, I also grew up in a haunted house, and I my parents lived in three separate houses. Every single one of them has been haunted.
So are they these old houses that would no we built? Okay?
And we actually well, so my house in Vermont that I grew up in the majority of the time I moved there when I was five. My parents built it on this farmland. We knew the family who sold their farmland to the developer, and so for a really long time we couldn't understand why our house was so haunted, and other houses on our street, like there was literally an exorcism of a house four doors down that was built like a new thousand and two.
Wow.
So recently I actually ran into one of the farmer who had sold the land his daughter, and I asked her if she knew anything about the land being haunted, and she was like, oh my god, that doesn't surprise me. She's like, I have no idea, but our farmhouse was so haunted. And she's in her fifties or sixties now, and she said she will not go into her basement. So we had so many hauntings in this house, and a lot of them were kind of benign. It was mostly like we had some regulars, Like there were some people that we would see frequently. There were there was a ghost dog. I actually have never seen the ghost dog. It was a black lab with a red collar. For a long time, only people who were visiting our house would see this dog. My mom is the only person who has seen him in real life. And it was only like maybe ten years ago, So for probably fifteen years it was strictly just being told to us by other people. So there was a lot that happened. A few scary experiences too that we all had. But one of the ones that I've been trying to make sense of this pastast year is when I was in middle school, I did get bullied very very badly for like two years and it was really really horrible, and I actually don't remember like a lot of How.
So when you say bullied, what were they doing like.
Telling me to kill myself and stuff like that, Like it was.
What you would see in it, like girls or dudes too or what?
No, no, no, it was it was girls. It was like one specific girl and like her cousins and.
People popular kids being like picking on a random person or what.
I was popular too, though, which is but I feel some weird it's popular pain right, Okay, No, but it was like it was more of me and this girl just it was like finding yourself. She was unhappy in her life and literally right yeah, yeah, I mean she's had a lot of growth. She apologized to me a few years later, Like did she really I forgave her? She was clearly in a very bad part of her life, and I was her best friend at the time, and it all was kind of taken out on me, and then other people directed it towards me too, And so I had a really, really awful two years. I had really good friends during that time, but it was still really hard to like constantly be bullied every day that I went to school.
Yeah, so how did you even deal with that?
I probably missed like a third of school for those two years, my mom would pick me up a lot. Yeah, so I was having a really really hard time. And for those two years, in my childhood bedroom, I had a mirror. I still have that mirror. It's hanging up. It's like a floor length mirror that hangs right next to my closet door. And during these two years, every once in a while, this woman would appear in this corner. What she would wear like baggy dark clothes and she had like a middle part and kind of like dark brown hair, and her face I couldn't entirely see it, but it was like kind of cloaked, and she looked really scary to me. Yeah, but she would walk over to me and she would approach me, and I wouldn't be scared. I'd feel so like comforted and loved and understood, and she would like literally reach out and I could feel her kind of like petting my hair and trying to make me feel better. Yeah, it's so freaky, right like, but it feels scary, but it felt really good for those two years. So for a really long time, I was like, this must be my like a guardian or like maybe like a relative, Like I had no clue who this woman was. I described her to my parents. They didn't know who she was either. And then this passed April. I was at home and I was in that same exact corner and I was changing into my pajamas and I caught a glimpse of myself at the mirror, and I was like, holy shit, I look exactly like that woman that I used to see.
WHOA really yes, And so.
I don't know how to confirm that, but like, I'm probably a couple of years younger than what that woman looked like to me, but very similar. And so part of me is like, oh am I haunting myself? Like do I go through some therapy to like finally hail myself.
Someone Also at one of our recent shows, we're in Boston, they said they saw someone the same.
Exact description getting a very similar.
Behind you, very proud of you, like a very like motherly, prideful type of spirit.
Yeah. So either I went back and I'm now like healing myself through some sort of therapy, or I'm going to die in like five years and this is me seeing my soul go through all of my life's memories, or.
When we die, we just don't necessarily die yeah, maybe maybe we exist on some sort of imprint level and multiple planes or something.
I don't know, right, And also if you die, and then maybe you can choose how you reappear, Like yeah, in the most form.
You just like go to the to the front desk and you get to the box, You're like, I really, they're just like really frustrated at you, and you're like there's a big line and you're.
Like, God, just use my old picture after life horrible.
Yeah, So I had so many experiences like that growing up. My mom is also very intuitive and into that stuff, and both of both her and I have had quite a few premonitions that have come true, but neither of us are kind of like locked in enough to understand where they can't identify.
Our twenty twenty four goal is to really tap in.
To conly be able to say we are witch.
We are witches, because right now we feel like frauds when we say that, or when people call us witches or ask if we're witches. Why I have imposter syndrome, Like I don't feel like I know enough, Like, yeah, we talked about the paranormal all the time, but that doesn't necessarily mean.
We're witches, Well, what would make you a witch?
Probably all the things we're describing. It's just it's because we don't have like the full.
Ability really having a podcast called two Girls One Ghosts and go on tour and conturer spirits in front of a crowd.
Right, that's the weird thing, Right, is like our paranormal equipment that we bring on stage, probably a third of the shows that we've done has been really active, which seems like a really high percentage.
Do you think demons are real? Yeah, okay, what is it? What's the demon? Then?
Like a darker energy? For sure?
Is kind of a spiritual term a little bit right it is?
Well, and I think too our understanding or at least like I'll speak for myself here, from so many of the cases that we've looked into and from what we've heard from other people, I almost think of a demon not as being like I'm sure it could be just like an intelligent, active entity of its own, But I've also heard many times that someone's negative emotions or someone's trauma, like a piece of their soul or their experience almost.
Chips off fragments of what like what once was right.
And then it like festers and becomes. Like if you're so so angry and you have this huge, horrible thing that happens to you, all your anger might some of it might like come off of you and then create its own sort of being. And that's what we encounter.
I mean, going back to your own experience in middle school, you were having a hard time, right, Yeah, what's your correlation with that? I mean, while you were having one of the hardest times you've had, you were experiencing this paranormal you know, ghost figure in your mirror.
Yeah.
I literally have no idea.
I have no like like coming from your subconscious or is it creating this energy that is like becoming physically actualized in some way, or if I had.
To guess, because I have accidentally actual projected before, just like Sabrina.
Has accidentally astral project.
Have you ever had like sleep paralysis? I have.
Not, really, I've had that like exploding head syndrome, which also that's a horrible name for it, but that's what it feels like.
It's like, right when you're about to go to sleep, like right there, all.
Of a sudden, the loudest sound you've ever heard in your life, audibly in the room.
Mine was a train horn and it would make you jump.
Up, like holy shit, I've never heard of it, yeah, and mean it terrified me, and I was like, wow, okay.
Did this only ever happen in one place?
So I looked it up and like, I was really tired one night and I hadn't slept in a couple of days, and I used to sleep like on my back.
Yeah, I've read that.
I mean, I guess some studies said that if you sleep on your back, it's more likely to happen. And it scared me so badly that I straight up don't sleep on my back anymore.
Wow, that's kind of an entry point.
I don't want to happen again.
Yeah, sleep proalysis, they say again, if you sleep on your back or astral projection, that all happens. And then there's people attempt to medically, I guess, diagnose this or like explain what's going on. But I think the question that we have is why do so many people experience the exact same thing when seeing the same exactly right without the knowledge of the yeah right, yeah, yeah, for the very first time.
I guess, have you ever had an out of body experience?
I don't know if I have.
Have you ever dissociated me?
Oh for sure?
Yeah, Like you're not doing it on purpose, right, Like I think that's I know, I'm not, Yeah, like it just happens. Yeah, So I think the same way astral projection can just happen. And unless you know and are actively aware of the ability to do it, I think it does start accidental and then you can like harness it.
Except for those who don't know what astral projecting is, Yes, what is it? And what we're your experiences doing that?
I mean, I guess the simplest term or way to describe it is like you're astral your soul separating from your physical body.
It's tethered and so like if you picture almost like a string or like an umbilical cord from your physical body leading your soul around as you explore either like the physical realm that we're currently in, or some people experience another realm and they speak to their loved ones on like the astral plane, which so your consciousness is still with your soul like moving about.
And so what was that experience like for you? You said you accidentally astral projected. What did like paint that for me?
Well?
You saw, were you going to people fighting over your sisters?
Yeah, so you were like laying down to go to sleep, and I was.
Fully asleep when it happened. Okay, yeah, I was napping on my back and mine wasn't mine. Wasn't that scary? It was just like I've since fought the feeling when I feel like it's coming on, it's almost where you feel like your body's sinking and you're kind of floating above it, where like you're falling into your bed. And then I hear really loud like woshing, like almost like someone's putting headphones over me, and I'm in a I'm like underneath the train or something.
Was it not just so weird dream? Or did you did you become conscious of what was happening in your dream or something.
The only reason I know that this even happened and it wasn't a dream was because when this was occurring, the doorbell rang. And it was in college when we I was living with five other or four other girls in a house, and the doorbell rang. Our friends Sarah was coming over, and I was so stressed that no one was going to go get the door and let her in that I saw myself, like I didn't even see myself. I was actively getting up from my bed and walking over to the door, and I looked out of the window and I saw Sarah there, and I was like, someone needs to dance at the door. I can't answer the door.
Right now, And then like did you see and stuff?
That's exactly how I know it's because then when I woke up from a nap like fifteen minutes later, and someone had answered the door. When I went out into the living room, she was wearing the exact clothes and she was carrying a cooler, and that exact cooler was there.
That is like very specific.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean like how could I?
Yeah yeah, Is that what it was like for you?
Uh?
No mine?
So I feel like the actual projection that story kind of qualifies as actual protection. But then the one where I woke up because something whispered wake up, I was asleep and this was early days of starting the podcast, so I think I must have just like started opened myself up a lot more talking about the paranormal and I'd gone asleep and I woke up, but like saw my physical body still in bed, and I walked out my astul self walked out into my living room and I saw this woman there and she was like sitting on the couch in my living room. And I swear if I saw her in real life, I would recognize her instantly, but I had never seen her before. She had like dark curly hair, and she was just sitting on the chair kind of like this, just like sitting here and like waiting for me, and she had me join her and we just sat and talked for twenty minutes about life and things that I was going through in that moment.
And then she was basically telling me.
Like I could go explore like what AshEL projection is and how it works. And so I start walking and at the time, I lived in this apartment building that had so many doors, and I walked through the hallway and I had to go through each of the doors, and like as I was getting to the exterior of the building is when that voice.
I'd wake up. So what was that voice?
You think someone trying to protect me? I don't know, like something else, not you, not your subcons It was a male voice.
It was a male voice. Okay, what did it sounded like? To your best impression, it kind.
Of sounded like my grandfather. Okay, yeah, did you watch the movie Insidios?
I did you know?
How like part of it is there's darkness and darker spirits that exist on the astral plane that you know, could take advantage of, almost like a vacant body. That's kind of why I think you were told to wake up because something was lurking. Okay, maybe going to take advantage of your, yeah, distance from yourself.
So you guys are on tour right now, and you're it's themed around your experience at the Conjuring House, right, So tell me about how that happened and what the hell went down in that in that house so much?
Okay, we've always so for six years, we've been doing the podcast and we research places or we read people's stories, and we've gone on like ghost tours and towns or like like at certain haunted buildings, but we've never gone and done an investigation. And so we were like, I think it's time we should do it. And I don't know why we chose the Conjuring House.
I don't know, it just seemed it was attractive to us. We were like, let's go stay at the farmhouse. It's so terrifying, Yeah, exactly. And I live in New England and it's in New England, so it felt easier. But Sabrina and I wanted to almost it wasn't necessarily just about spending the night at the conjuring house. We wanted to take a little bit more of like a journalistic approach, and so we interviewed people. Did people who lived there.
We interviewed Andrea Parrin who lived in the house. We interviewed Chad and Carry Hayes who wrote the movie.
We had through documents at the Rhode Island Historical Society.
Yeah, and then we had Greg and Dana Newkirk come with us because, like we've said, like we don't feel like we're professionals. We've never done a paranormal investigation before, so we're like, we need to bring someone who knows what they're doing with us. So Greg and Dana came with us.
Yeah, they're quite famous paranormal investigators and caretakers of haunted objects, so they have a lot of experience with not only investigating, but like navigating certain spirits and negative presences. So we felt very comfortable having them come with us. And Dana is a witch like Dana's a witch.
Okay, le, she's a real witch. Does one become a real witch?
Your study and learn practice?
But are are you all witches?
Then we're trying where to develop?
When do you become full witch?
When we get over our imposter syndrome?
Oh okay, what if you never do? I mean, maybe do you? I have imposter syndrome too?
Reading more will help me feel more. I just want to understand it, like the history of it, and just like different.
Be more educated and yeah, all the things.
But I think practicing witchcraft or being a witch is very personal. It's a very personal experience. And so it's not like buying a book of spells and just doing all of them and being a witch. It's like learning about different things. And you know, you speak to trees like you are very nature driven. I think I'm more like water driven and like dream space. So like maybe it's understanding what speaks to you and then like becoming more in tune with it.
Okay, So I think that the trope would be that you have like a you know, you're like whipping up potions and you know, casting hexes on people or something. Is that part of it or is it really more like about a self manifestation sort of like I don't know.
I think there are people who do hexes. I highly recommend that they don't, but I think it's I think in internal people self don't.
Yeah. Yeah, it's about yeah, trusting your intuition and just trying to do things. It's almost like self care and way where you go through certain rituals that feel good. Eclectic witches they kind of can grab a bunch of different types of witchcraft that belongs to different cultures and different types of people and test them out and see like what feels good and what feels right for them. But then other people there's so many different lines of witchcraft too, which is I yeah, this is why you're like, oh, I want to be more educated in it too, because it's like some people it's very hereditary and it's very culture based, but other people it's just like does this feel like it's doing anything for me? Does this feel good?
Right? And eventually we'll buy a cottage in the woods and live our best switchy life.
Yeah, and then you're then you're definitely then yeah, right.
You can come too. But the entry is one tooth, two.
Teeth, any tooth any tooth. Does it have to be mine?
It does not have to Okay, I was thinking yours. But anyone that front teeth?
What do you do with my tooth that you're going to like use it for a.
For a hex?
Yeah?
Is that how that works?
I give you, I give you one on my to my tooth, give me tooth, I give one of my teeth, and then you hex me as.
A bad bad deal.
I know it is a bad deal.
Stay on our side, okay, yeah, yeah, don't listen to am. Okay. So you arrived at the conjuring house. What time was this that when you got there?
For the overnight, we got there at like seven pm. Yeah, it was seven pm. We did the day tour the day before because we wanted to see it in the daylight and get like the same sort of group to where everybody else gets. Okay, But for the overnight it was we checked in at seven pm. We left at four thirty am. And the only reason we left at four thirty am instead of staying until the eight am checkout time was because at three am, which is like the notorious witching hour, like when the veil is thinnest and the spirits are closest, it was dead. Silence was cool. So it was so active in the house. But then for like ninety minutes at the end, from three am on, nothing happened. So we're like, okay, I guess they're done.
Yeah, is there power in there? Yeah? Yeah, Okay.
So you walk in there, what's the what's the first thing that you notice? And you're like, oh, wait, that's something, something's going on, there's some activity here.
Well, okay, So during the day tour, because we were both a little nervous going into the house for the first time because we didn't, like, you know, we had seen the movie, we didn't know much else, so we thought there was going to be evil spirits there.
When you walked in, I was so calm, Like I was nervous walking up into the threshold, and then as soon as I passed through from the outside to inside through the doorway, I felt so warm and so loved and I was like I could take a nap here. And I looked at Sabrina and I was like, I feel so good.
Yeah, are you just having a good time or was it deeper than that.
No, it's just like truly, you know, when you enter a space and you can tell like if someone just had a fight or if something just feels really like homey and warm and comfortable. I felt like it was really homey, which it doesn't look homie.
It does though, it's like timing farmhouse like it is very beautiful.
Yeah.
Well you walk in yeah yeah.
And the room that you walk into like they're playing into the conjuring movies.
There's ware.
Yeah, they did not break the glass. And I did not feel the way you did. No you energy?
Yeah? Really?
Yeah, which is weird that you can walk into the same place and have two different feelings.
What do you feel like?
I just felt uneasy, like I felt the shift and energy. It wasn't scary necessarily, but I was like, I feel the heaviness of there's something going on here, and.
Your senses are heightened here because you're here under the premise of trying to investigate activity of some sort. Do you get it plays into it at all or you definitely?
Yeah?
And so that did you experience anything, did you hear sounds or what happened? A lot? Happened a lot? Yeah, give me a good one.
Okay, well we have one that we didn't actually have during our show. So should I tell the clock one?
Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
So while we were there, we were doing we were just doing like spirit sessions and like using the spear box and Says method, And the Essays method is like sensory deprivation, but.
It's technologically assisted mediumship. So when people have s boxes or spirit boxes or some sort of sweeping radio that like scans through the radio stations. The scanning of the radio stations very quickly is supposed to basically prevent any like full words or sentences coming through by actual radio hosts and give an opportunity for spirits to like communicate and speak to the radio wavelength for them to write and exactly. The esta's method takes the spirit box and basically plugs in noise canceling headphones, and then the person will wear a blind fold so that they can't be influenced at all by anyone in the room asking questions. They won't know if you're reacting to what they're saying. They actually don't even know if you're in the room with them, really, and so the esta's method is someone sitting there, they can't see, they can hear, but all they hear is the of the sweeping radio and then they'll repeat any words that they hear, and then someone else or a group of people are in the room with them asking questions, and so they're just repeating the words that the spirits are saying in response.
Okay, so it's kind of like an experiment where you're speaking to them and this is like the fail proof, Yeah, exactly, variable here where it's kind of if they've heard something that made sense as a response, that would be either a strange coincidence or real.
And the entire time the responses were like accurately responding to our questions.
That's what freaked us out so much because we used the Estas method and the Frank's Box. There's a Frank's Box is something that was created by a man named Frank Sumption in the early two thousands to communicate with aliens and there's only some two hundred of them. And Greg and Dana k Newkirk, who came with us to the overnight, they have one, and so they brought it. And we were using the Frank's Box as the spirit box with the Stus method, and we'd never used it before. We probably did this method for like almost ninety minutes and I think you and I probably I think we assumed there'd be like a lot of dead space or like a lot of opportunities for spirits to say something that didn't make sense to us. We were prepped for that. That never happened. Everything made sense, Everything was the response. We were never interrupted by the spirits. They never spoke out of turn. It was freaky.
So then this example that I'll tell you is we were asking the spirits if they remembered the paren family, who the Conjuring movie is based off of, and Dana, using the S's method, responded immediately saying, I remember when they were young that there was a clock then, and we didn't really think anything of it. But then after we did all of this, and as we were putting together our show, we interviewed Andrea parent, who is the woman we were asking the ghosts if they remembered, and Andrew tells us this story about.
The day they moved in.
They had this grandfather clock and maybe within like the first week, it kept going off at a certain time, and then all of a sudden it stopped working and it was stuck on that time that it was going off every night, and it was like when they were experiencing paranormal activity. It stopped working and did not ever work again until the day they moved out, and it immediately started working again.
Wow.
And we were like the ghosts recall the clock. They remember, they remembered the clock. There was a clock then, and they were kind of like, in my mind, it was like they were admitting that they had some interference with the.
Clock, right, like they're pointing towards the Also, like how Frank just called it the Frank Box.
It's like, what I call this, Well, it's my box box.
Yeah, and we have to honor that because he's since passed.
Fans box.
Yeah, and the extraterrestrials they told him to build it. And actually having the Franks Box there was so perfect because I think a lot of people associate the Conjuring House with spirits and with poltergeists something demonic, but aliens are the huge thing there. People see UFOs all the time. We were told when we were using the EST's method and also when we were just using a sort of like radio s box on its own from the spirits, that there were aliens there and to look in the window and that they come through the window and that they'll look like fake clouds, which again was so weird because we were hearing all of this. And then later when we spoke to Andrew and had that interview, she was telling us about one of the many experiences she had there where she looked outside and there were clouds that looked like cotton candy, multi colored clouds, and then an entire like flotilla of ships came through the sky. Yeah that's the word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like athlete, yeah, an army of alien yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
I am bummed though, because I like feel like that would have been my opportunity to be abducted and I I'm.
Still here, or maybe you were, you just haven't remembered it yet.
Maybe that's true. For that to be true, not at the contrary, I don't know what they.
Were doing up there were like, God, these people are weird.
I know.
We had a lot of fun experiences too that Yeah, they were really fun. There was a lot of like funny moments for the spirits do you kind of poke fun at you or interact with you? And there was one story that I'll tell you that came through the Franks box, like we asked, or Greg asked, is there one thing that you would like to tell the world, Like, what is one thing if you have the opportunity for the whole world to be your audience, what would it be? And the spirit said the naked guy or like the naked man, naked man and Greg and Dana had no idea what this was about, but Sabrina and I did because when we did the overnight or sorry, when we did the day tour the day before our tour guide was Corey Hinzen who his family had owned the house previously for three years, and he told us that there was a foreign reality TV show that came in and filmed there. Well, basically the premise of the show was every single episode there would be someone who would be plopped in a house and no one would know where they were staying or what was special about this house, but the house would be haunted. So it was like to see if any hauntings would happen to person.
What they knew, because this guy clearly did not know their cameras either, No.
He didn't because he was like fully naked like penis out all night walking awayd was that.
One of the rules you had to be naked or no, this is just he just chose.
This is why we did not know if he knew if there were cameras. But what was so funny when we heard like the spirits when asked what's one thing that they want to talk about, they were like, why are people not talking about that naked guy? They loved the naked guy coming. They probably don't hear any of them. It was refreshing, right because everyone else comes in with like, yeah, exactly Dick's swing and.
A lot if he's I think the whole night he just got in there and just took his clothes off, and he's like, this is how I'm.
Going to do this.
He made himself comfortable. I'm wondering. I'm wondering if that episode ever was able to be aired.
Can I say, is this a real show?
Like?
Can you I have know? Does it exist somewhere?
Now? I don't know we should.
Yeah, I will be damned if we go find some naked guy with like these cameras and.
What to him? Because clearly this guy. Yeah, were they so shocked at what was happening that they just like were stunned.
Watching it to get on this show?
Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, the Spirits were they were very active. Okay, can I Actually this makes me want to tell I don't know if we've ever told you about this, the ghost penis. We have caught an image of a spectral being before. We were in New Orleans and we went to Lafitte's blacksmith's shop, which is like infamously haunted, and I was taking a picture of Krin and my friend Scout sitting in front of the fireplace where a lot of people see faces like of the sky, like John Lafitte. Yeah, and I'm taking a picture and I take one live photo and one regular photo within the same minute. The live photo there's nothing, but in the still photo right behind my friend's Scout's nose is a spirit looking thing and as we zoom in.
It is it's an ectoplasmic penis. That thing is like a little tiny blue penis. Penis.
Yeah, well, what did it look like a penis?
It was?
It was mostly I don't know.
That was the only time we've ever been in the tabloids.
Yeah, truly. My only quote online is Corinvyhan from Two Girls, One Ghost said quote, Yep, that's definitely a penis.
Should I know one when I see one?
When I see one.
Where was it in the picture?
I can it was like right by her house.
She's in her face, behind her, behind her face.
It's in the fireplace that everyone else sees his face. And we were on Sabrina's bachelrette trips, so we were like, of course the bachelorette party, like actually gets shown his penis.
Not his face, right right? Yeah, I mean so it mean how big? Was it?
Nothing? Thrilling? Yeah, he's not going to get a reputation.
But it was clearly a penis, so we could tell it look like something.
Yeah, yeah, just a little ghost penis.
Yeah, very perfect for two girls on ghost Yeah.
Interesting. Yeah, I mean I guess, but there was no body.
It was just just a penis, just that.
Yeah, I got to see this. Yeah, okay, that's that's wild.
And I'm curious what you'll think.
Yeah, I want to know if it's like, oh yeah, that's penis for sure, or if it's like please it is it like definitive enough? Well, i'll see, I'll see.
Yeah. Yeah, I'll be the judge.
You can judge. You can be honest too. If you're like I think you guys are.
Like, wow, that's huge.
Are you talking about that small.
So here's the photo, the live photo. So there's nothing in here.
Okay, this is Scout and that is me, and that's the fireplaces the face chase, and nothing's in there. We're sitting on like folding chairs.
And now.
Look it has the mushroom top, it has the testees, it's got a shaft.
Yeah, there's my brightness, a very fallic right.
That's that looks like it?
I mean, it's kind of what I was picturing in my head is.
A blue spectral penis.
And if it's nice, it's sure as hell looks like one.
Yeah.
Yeah, so now you've seen Jean's penis.
You learned something every day.
Yeah.
Wow.
People don't think about these things as an opportunity to be seen when they're thinking about seeing a ghost, right, and we didn't.
Either, Like when I ever see the ghost penis right right now?
People worry about spirits, watching them shower and like, oh, they can watch me change and sometimes you accidentally see them. I will say.
It's a very creative haunting.
Yeah it is.
What would you do?
What would your signature moved be? You?
Like how you transitioned like straight from like his guy, This guy's a flasher ghost, what would you do?
And I'm like, uh not that.
I don't know, like if I was pranking somebody or just do you get to choose one or can you just do whatever you want?
Okay?
If you were showing up as a ghost to us, what would you do?
Okay?
I mean I feel like i'd have to like try to scare you, but in a funny way, okay, like whisper something like really weird.
But like what we actually do have a code word if one of us dies before the other that we can deliver a message through someone else to the other person.
Like someone at a bar walks up to us and says, I don't know why I have to say this, but I just need to tell you this, And then they.
Say the code work passes and you're just like with a stranger and they send along a message.
Yes, so what is it or is it a secret?
Well, we just came up with a new one so we can say our old one, yeah, because we accidentally said it on an episode that the old one was purple panties.
Purple pants.
That would be a strange thing for a stranger to come up and like, I have to tell you purple panties. Yeah, you're you're shopping, You're putting your heart in piggly wiggling. Someone's like, purple panties.
I'm not going to go around saying that, no exactly.
That's how we would know. I already forgot our new one, though.
I know.
We'll listen back and all the one time.
That's totally cool for a strained to behave purple purple panties.
They're like, okay, it's apropope again.
Yeah, So it's safe to say that in your experience, the Conjuring House was haunted.
Definitely. It was definitely on definitely hunt the deal. Yeah, oh yeah. We walked away feeling a lot more like respectful and understanding of the spirits that were there. Though I think a lot of people go in expecting similar to kind of we did go in expecting to be horrified. Yeah, and I don't think we were ever horrified. We were very intrigued in.
I was scared when we heard an EVP that said midnight, and Greg was like, what happens at midnight? And I heard clear as day death, I said it, three different voices said death, death, I.
Mean time to go right.
And then at midnight or like eleven fifty eight, were down in the basement of the Conjuring House and Dana and Greg are talking about the coron of cat Skills, which is this like terrifying object that they have a documentary that just came out about it.
And I'm like, looking at my phone.
I'm like, hey, so it's almost midnight. Can we like stop talking about scary things until after midnight? And Everyone's like for two seconds, yeah, yeah, yeah. Two seconds later Danny goes, isn't this the basement like where that hide and clap scene from the Conjuring movie takes place?
And I was like, it's eleven fifty nine.
You're gonna run of my car real quick, I think with my chat stick in there.
Yeah, but yeah, we were, we made it past.
Yeah, okay, so you're you're live.
We're live, We're live. Yeah okay, But I feel like we've waited long enough to know.
What the surprise is.
Okay.
So yeah, I've been thinking about it all this whole time.
I got you guys a gift. I got you a little gift.
Why am I nervous?
Here we go?
Payne? Are you fucking kidding me? I knew my heart I knew it.
My heart is pounded. Are you gonna make us play.
With the Ouiji board? You can watch? I mean, I'm participating.
I'm in see And that's why I have like having you sit here, because I knew you'd be.
Like, I'm like, okay, my heart beat, I can feel it right now. Boom boom boom.
So yeah, this is a the world's smallest Ouiji board. I mean, if anything, it's very cute.
It is cute. Did you buy a new one or is this the one that you were telling us about?
This is the one?
So you never unwrapped it?
Is this? I bought a bunch of little tiny games like this, and I thought it was just so cute looking and cool it is.
Then I'm like, I'm not going to like use this.
It says yes, actually works.
Yeah, I'm like, okay, what does that mean? Like it actually works? So have you ever used the Ouiji war before?
I have and totally made contact with some spirit, but like it was in middle school, So.
Okay, okay, you know, yeah used one. I have not, and then find some evil spirit in here and like screw up my sleep tonight or haunt me, then you'll us instead of I'm down to to try it. Do you know how to do it?
I mean yes, yes, yes, ok And we just have a set intensions and make sure we say goodbye.
Those are like the biggest rules, okay. And you know how to do that.
Yeah, and you're going to do it correctly, so we don't, I hope. So get permanently haunted or something?
Find out or yeah?
Who does it have the age on there? Like you know, it's like you know, ten and up? Or what does it say?
Not for children under three?
So if you're four, you're good.
As soon as you can talk.
You can totally talk with the evil spirits, you're right, But three that's the cutoff right there. So how do we do this? Okay?
Maybe I will play.
Okay, okay, or maybe you all play. I'll just watch.
You have to pay part of it, okay, all right, Like I'm being influenced.
All right, So who's going to open it up? Not it nose? It goes.
Like gathering around the witchy board. Wow, that is the tiniest plante I've ever seen.
Yeah? Is it too small? Is this show?
I don't know. I also feel like I'm shaking.
I am saying okay before we begin, we should set intentions, so basically, we're not trying to provoke anything evil. Only positive, good love and light is allowed here absolutely, and nothing is allowed to follow us home?
Correct?
Correct? Great, y'all get that?
Got it? Great? We're trusting you.
Okay, when we each put a finger to say something after that or is it?
Well, then you each put one finger on the plan chat this little mini plan chet, but do it as lately as you possibly can, so that you're not really it's amante. I know, I am sure, all sure, it's so tiny, it's hard.
Okay, Okay, right now.
You're supposed to ask the question. Don't abandon Sabrina.
We're both on it.
Okay, now you can start asking. We ask, are there any spirits here with us?
I feel like you're moving?
Okay, I'm jaking, I'm nervous. Okay, okay, we'll try.
Is there anyone in this airbnb with us? Did you rent the one non hunted?
I mean it doesn't look very haunted.
Should we also put my necorvonic gap onto?
Oh that's interesting?
Oh yeah, yeah, let's let's let's let's open.
I'm also got to remember to take goodbye even if we don't believe that this thing is right.
Yeah, We're like, there's nothing there, and I'm like, guys, there is someone in the room now, like, what did you guys do to see that? That's my fear is that, Oh man, this is just a game, and someone's gonna come remind me later on tonight that it's not a game.
Okay, So what's doing with my microphone?
By this? And then Sabrina, you can ask questions? Okay, are there any spirits?
I heard?
I am?
Yeah?
Wait, do you want to communicate with us using the Ouiji board?
Oh? Shoot?
Kind of.
Are you guys? Are you pushing it?
Or is that just like all of the vibration of all of us are shaking?
Is there any message you would like to share with us?
Mhm? What was that? Okay?
Okay, it is spooky, though it is.
It sounds terrifying.
Would you like to communicate with us? I wish we'd brought all of our other equipment to do you have anything in your backpack? I don't think I do what I'm talking about into our insecure Okay, here we go, I got one.
If there's any hey, if there's any spirit spirit in here? Are these real witches.
I think that was a due.
It was a sure do.
What are you wearing?
Our ghosts? Penis is real? They are, they are.
It's supposed to sweep through the radio is the same way that like a spirit box does, but I definitely does that.
It just like, yeah, it's like it could sound less spooky.
Yeah, it could be a little clearer or like we can't even hear the scan of like.
That's yeah, yeah, all right, should we close out? Yeah? Sure.
We have to keep our fingers on.
And we have to say, okay, don't mess this part up.
Yeah, well you don't mess this part up.
Okay, don't know lifting of the finger, yeah, okay.
Thank you to whoever is here for the opportunity to speak to you. We are going to say our goodbyes now. We appreciate your efforts and wish you the best of times staying here.
We are closing our conversation and communication with you at this time.
What they said, and thank you for your time and please don't haunt me. So for the listener who is totally I'm not into any of this stuff. I think it's all fake. Obviously getting your name, you're on my list, What would you say? To them in terms of maybe opening their mind a little bit.
If you like good stories, you don't have to believe in them. You could just be like, oh, this is a fun story.
And I think that there's a lot that happens around us that we sometimes write off as something else. And it's like if you take a pause and you take a moment and you actually try to think about what just happened to you, or recreate something that happened that might have seemed odd, like something falling off of a bookshelf. If you can't recreate it, then perhaps that is something trying to get or someone trying to get your attention. I think it's easy to put up our blinders and be like, oh, must have been the wind, even though all my doors and windows are closed and I don't even have air conditioning in here. I think it's easier to just be like, I don't believe because sometimes it's scary and it rocks all of my core beliefs that I might already have. Yeah, but I think if you just think for a moment, and unfortunately, I feel like it does take certain people losing someone or like a pet or someone close to them to start to open up and start to recognize some of the signs that happen around us.
I think the paranormal also offers a lot of hope and like hell Sa in the sense that death is scary, we don't know what comes after it it, so believing in the paranormal in the afterlife kind of offers you a little bit of a solace if you lose someone like krint saying, to know that maybe they're still there and watching over you.
Yeah, it's less doom and gloom that way.
Yeah.
Well, thank you guys for being here.
This was fun and I really hope that we did not conjure some ghosts and if we did, he leaves with you guys.
And not with me.
We have some cleansing material.
Cool.
So if I if you receive a call from me like two in the morning tonight, answer it because I'm I probably need your help. Robert Scooby, do that stuff I said about this being a fun little game and be like, holy shit.
Where we do this is serious?
Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, you guys are fun and I'm going to be at your show tonight.
Thanks for having us, of course for supporting us.
Absolutely.
Maybe more will happen tonight.
It might maybe we just like poked at it this wall just yeah maybe.
Yeah.
If all the things you're saying are true, that they all you around and stuff, then they they're like, I will save it.
Yeah.
Normally when things happen, we blame it on our podcast Gusts, but I think tonight we'll blame it on you. Yeah.
Okay, cool. Hopefully not lame.
Hopefully it's something fun.
Yeah cool man.
Yeah, another ghost penis Yeah.
Yeah, it's like wow, takes up the whole room, like, wait, is pain dead? Where is it? So? No, he's just really asleep.
He's back at the Airbnb Apple projector and I'm like, I'm like, holy.
End on that note. Well, thank you guys, that was funk you.
Talking to Death is a production of tenderfoot TV and iHeart podcast created and hosted by Payne Lindsay. For Tenderfoot TV, executive producers are Payne Lindsay and Donald Albright. Co executive producer is Mike Rudey. For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are Matt Frederick and Alex Williams. With original music by Makeup and Vanity Set. Additional production by Mike Rooney Dylan Harrington Sean Nerney, Dayton Cole, and Gustav Wilde for Coohedo. Production support by Tracy Kaplan, Mara Davis, and Trevor Young. Mixing and mastering by Cooper Skinner and Dayton Cole. Our cover art was created by Rob Sheridan. Check out our website Talking to Death podcast dot com.
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