Person

Principles

Problems

Perspicacity

In this episode, hosts Steve Davis and David Olney embark on an insightful journey exploring the profound impacts of AI on communication and the essence of human connection. Through their unique four P's approach—Person, Principles, Problems, and Perspicacity—the episode delves into the transformative power of effective communication, guided by wisdom from Charles Duhigg's book on Super Communicators and reflections on the Big Bang Theory's character dynamics.

The "Person" segment illuminates how genuine communication, driven by care and curiosity, forges deep connections, drawing from Oscar Wilde's insights on companionship. The discussion emphasises the need for empathy and understanding in every conversation, whether personal or professional.

In "Principles," the conversation pivots to Duhigg's revelations on communication modes—help, hug, or be heard—and the significance of aligning with the listener's needs. This segment offers practical advice for enhancing interpersonal interactions by discerning the nature of the conversation desired.

"Problems" addresses the criticality of secure, two-factor authentication for digital security, offering tangible solutions to protect online identities and assets in an increasingly interconnected world.

Finally, "Perspicacity" revisits the Big Bang Theory, using it as a lens to examine the subtleties of matching emotional tones and energy levels for meaningful communication. This part also ventures into the realm of AI, discussing its role as a co-pilot in our digital explorations and the importance of human elements in content creation and connection.

Throughout, the episode not only navigates the evolving landscape of communication in the age of AI but also champions the timeless value of empathy, curiosity, and genuine interaction in building relationships and fostering understanding.

Get ready to take notes!

Talking About Marketing podcast episode notes with timecodes

01:02 Person This segment focusses on you, the person, because we believe business is personal.
Would You Rather Be Helped, Hugged, Or Heard?

In the "Person" segment, hosts Steve Davis and David Olney delve into the intricacies of communication through the lens of Charles Duhigg's concept of Super Communicators. Emphasising the importance of recognising the mode of communication—practical, emotional, or social (helped, hugged, heard)—the discussion sheds light on the common disconnect that occurs when individuals engage in conversation with differing expectations of its nature.

This exploration is anchored in the understanding that effective communication is not just about the exchange of information but also about matching the emotional tone and energy level between participants. Such alignment fosters a deeper connection and ensures that the essence of the conversation is not lost in translation. The segment illuminates how, by simply clarifying the type of engagement sought—whether seeking solutions, emotional support, or just an ear to listen—can significantly enhance the quality and outcome of interactions.

Further, the conversation turns to Duhigg's invaluable advice for navigating the often fraught terrain of online communication, particularly in social media contexts. Highlighting the need for overemphasising politeness, reducing sarcasm, and avoiding public criticism, these guidelines offer a roadmap for more constructive and less contentious online engagements. By adopting these strategies, individuals can foster more meaningful connections in a digital age, where the nuances of face-to-face interaction are frequently lost.

This segment compellingly argues that understanding and applying different modes of communication, coupled with mindful online behaviour, are crucial for realising the full potential of our interactions, both personally and professionally.

16:07 Principles This segment focusses principles you can apply in your business today.
Be Kind To Your AI Tools And Get Better Results

In the "Principles" segment, Steve Davis and David Olney pivot the conversation towards the burgeoning relationship between humans and artificial intelligence, particularly in how we communicate with AI tools. Drawing upon recent observations and articles, the hosts explore the fascinating principle that treating AI with politeness—notably AI like ChatGPT, named Amber in their discussion—can significantly improve the quality of interactions and outcomes received.

The segment unpacks the curious phenomenon that AI tools respond more effectively to prompts delivered with courtesy. This insight not only highlights the evolving nature of human-AI communication but also suggests that the algorithms behind these tools may be influenced by the tone and respect inherent in user queries. The discussion further delves into the implications of this finding, pondering whether AI's responsiveness to politeness mirrors the vast amount of human dialogue it's trained on, which often values respectful communication.

Moreover, the conversation touches on the importance of these interactions as a reflection of broader communication habits. If politeness can enhance our dealings with AI, what does this say about the fundamental principles of effective communication in our human relationships?

This thought-provoking segment ultimately underscores a critical principle in the era of AI: the way we engage with technology not only impacts our immediate objectives but also reflects and perhaps shapes our overall communication culture. By advocating for kindness and respect in all interactions, whether with humans or AI, "Talking About Marketing" illuminates a path towards more meaningful and productive exchanges in a tech-driven world.

28:43 Problems This segment answers questions we've received from clients or listeners.
Turn On Two-Factor Authentication Without Email

In the "Problems" segment, Steve Davis addresses a crucial digital security measure: the activation of two-factor authentication (2FA) that does not rely on email. Highlighting a common oversight, Steve narrates a scenario where a client was unable to access their web hosting service due to the 2FA code being sent to an email address that was inactive, a result of an expired domain name. This cautionary tale serves as a reminder of the vulnerabilities associated with tying security measures solely to email-based verification.

Steve advocates for more secure and reliable 2FA methods, such as SMS-based codes or authentication apps like Google Authenticator. These alternatives reduce the risk associated with email reliance, ensuring continued access even if email services are compromised or unavailable. Particularly, the use of authentication apps is recommended for their ability to generate time-sensitive codes linked directly to the service being accessed, independent of email or phone number changes.

30:46 Perspicacity This segment is designed to sharpen our thinking by reflecting on a case study from the past.
A Big Bang Insight Into Conversation

In the "Perspicacity" segment, the conversation takes an entertaining turn as Steve Davis and David Olney explore the significance of tone and energy in communication through the lens of popular TV shows, "The Big Bang Theory" and its spin-off, "Young Sheldon." This segment illuminates Charles Duhigg's insight that effective communication is not solely about the content but significantly about matching the emotional tone and energy between conversational partners.

Using "The Big Bang Theory" as a case study, the hosts discuss how the show's success, particularly in its pilot episode's re-shooting, hinged on the actors' ability to synchronise their characters' emotional tones and energies. This alignment allowed for a more authentic and engaging portrayal of the characters' interactions, resonating deeply with audiences and setting the stage for the sitcom's success.

"Young Sheldon" is presented as further evidence of this communication principle in action, showcasing how the titular character's unique way of engaging with the world and others around him still adheres to the fundamental need for emotional congruence in interactions. The segment highlights how Sheldon, despite his academic brilliance and logical approach to life, learns the importance of matching tone and energy to connect with others effectively.

This engaging discussion not only sheds light on the dynamics of successful TV storytelling but also offers valuable lessons on the universal application of these communication principles in real-life interactions.

In this episode, hosts Steve Davis and David Olney embark on an insightful journey exploring the profound impacts of AI on communication and the essence of human connection. Through their unique four P's approach—Person, Principles, Problems, and Perspicacity—the episode delves into the transformative power of effective communication, guided by wisdom from Charles Duhigg's book on Super Communicators and reflections on the Big Bang Theory's character dynamics.
The "Person" segment illuminates how genuine communication, driven by care and curiosity, forges deep connections, drawing from Oscar Wilde's insights on companionship. The discussion emphasises the need for empathy and understanding in every conversation, whether personal or professional.
In "Principles," the conversation pivots to Duhigg's revelations on communication modes—help, hug, or be heard—and the significance of aligning with the listener's needs. This segment offers practical advice for enhancing interpersonal interactions by discerning the nature of the conversation desired.
"Problems" addresses the criticality of secure, two-factor authentication for digital security, offering tangible solutions to protect online identities and assets in an increasingly interconnected world.
Finally, "Perspicacity" revisits the Big Bang Theory, using it as a lens to examine the subtleties of matching emotional tones and energy levels for meaningful communication. This part also ventures into the realm of AI, discussing its role as a co-pilot in our digital explorations and the importance of human elements in content creation and connection.
Throughout, the episode not only navigates the evolving landscape of communication in the age of AI but also champions the timeless value of empathy, curiosity, and genuine interaction in building relationships and fostering understanding.
Get ready to take notes!
Talking About Marketing podcast episode notes with timecodes
01:02 Person This segment focusses on you, the person, because we believe business is personal. Would You Rather Be Helped, Hugged, Or Heard?
In the "Person" segment, hosts Steve Davis and David Olney delve into the intricacies of communication through the lens of Charles Duhigg's concept of Super Communicators. Emphasising the importance of recognising the mode of communication—practical, emotional, or social (helped, hugged, heard)—the discussion sheds light on the common disconnect that occurs when individuals engage in conversation with differing expectations of its nature.
This exploration is anchored in the understanding that effective communication is not just about the exchange of information but also about matching the emotional tone and energy level between participants. Such alignment fosters a deeper connection and ensures that the essence of the conversation is not lost in translation. The segment illuminates how, by simply clarifying the type of engagement sought—whether seeking solutions, emotional support, or just an ear to listen—can significantly enhance the quality and outcome of interactions.
Further, the conversation turns to Duhigg's invaluable advice for navigating the often fraught terrain of online communication, particularly in social media contexts. Highlighting the need for overemphasising politeness, reducing sarcasm, and avoiding public criticism, these guidelines offer a roadmap for more constructive and less contentious online engagements. By adopting these strategies, individuals can foster more meaningful connections in a digital age, where the nuances of face-to-face interaction are frequently lost.
This segment compellingly argues that understanding and applying different modes of communication, coupled with mindful online behaviour, are crucial for realising the full potential of our interactions, both personally and professionally.
16:07 Principles This segment focusses principles you can apply in your business today. Be Kind To Your AI Tools And Get Better Results
In the "Principles" segment, Steve Davis and David Olney pivot the conversation towards the burgeoning relationship between humans and artificial intelligence, particularly in how we communicate with AI tools. Drawing upon recent observations and articles, the hosts explore the fascinating principle that treating AI with politeness—notably AI like ChatGPT, named Amber in their discussion—can significantly improve the quality of interactions and outcomes received.
The segment unpacks the curious phenomenon that AI tools respond more effectively to prompts delivered with courtesy. This insight not only highlights the evolving nature of human-AI communication but also suggests that the algorithms behind these tools may be influenced by the tone and respect inherent in user queries. The discussion further delves into the implications of this finding, pondering whether AI's responsiveness to politeness mirrors the vast amount of human dialogue it's trained on, which often values respectful communication.
Moreover, the conversation touches on the importance of these interactions as a reflection of broader communication habits. If politeness can enhance our dealings with AI, what does this say about the fundamental principles of effective communication in our human relationships?
This thought-provoking segment ultimately underscores a critical principle in the era of AI: the way we engage with technology not only impacts our immediate objectives but also reflects and perhaps shapes our overall communication culture. By advocating for kindness and respect in all interactions, whether with humans or AI, "Talking About Marketing" illuminates a path towards more meaningful and productive exchanges in a tech-driven world.
28:43 Problems This segment answers questions we've received from clients or listeners. Turn On Two-Factor Authentication Without Email
In the "Problems" segment, Steve Davis addresses a crucial digital security measure: the activation of two-factor authentication (2FA) that does not rely on email. Highlighting a common oversight, Steve narrates a scenario where a client was unable to access their web hosting service due to the 2FA code being sent to an email address that was inactive, a result of an expired domain name. This cautionary tale serves as a reminder of the vulnerabilities associated with tying security measures solely to email-based verification.
Steve advocates for more secure and reliable 2FA methods, such as SMS-based codes or authentication apps like Google Authenticator. These alternatives reduce the risk associated with email reliance, ensuring continued access even if email services are compromised or unavailable. Particularly, the use of authentication apps is recommended for their ability to generate time-sensitive codes linked directly to the service being accessed, independent of email or phone number changes.
30:46 Perspicacity This segment is designed to sharpen our thinking by reflecting on a case study from the past. A Big Bang Insight Into Conversation
In the "Perspicacity" segment, the conversation takes an entertaining turn as Steve Davis and David Olney explore the significance of tone and energy in communication through the lens of popular TV shows, "The Big Bang Theory" and its spin-off, "Young Sheldon." This segment illuminates Charles Duhigg's insight that effective communication is not solely about the content but significantly about matching the emotional tone and energy between conversational partners.
Using "The Big Bang Theory" as a case study, the hosts discuss how the show's success, particularly in its pilot episode's re-shooting, hinged on the actors' ability to synchronise their characters' emotional tones and energies. This alignment allowed for a more authentic and engaging portrayal of the characters' interactions, resonating deeply with audiences and setting the stage for the sitcom's success.
"Young Sheldon" is presented as further evidence of this communication principle in action, showcasing how the titular character's unique way of engaging with the world and others around him still adheres to the fundamental need for emotional congruence in interactions. The segment highlights how Sheldon, despite his academic brilliance and logical approach to life, learns the importance of matching tone and energy to connect with others effectively.
This engaging discussion not only sheds light on the dynamics of successful TV storytelling but also offers valuable lessons on the universal application of these communication principles in real-life interactions.

Talking About Marketing is a podcast for you to help you thrive in your role as a business owner and/or leader. It's produced by the Talked About Marketing team of Steve Davis and David Olney, with editing by Tim Whiffen. Artwork by Casey Cumming.

Each marketing podcast episode tips its hat to Philip Kotler's famous "4 Ps of Marketing" (Product, Price, Place, Promotion), by honouring our own 4 Ps of Podcasting; Person, Principles, Problems, and Perspicacity.
Person. The aim of life is self-development. To realise one's nature perfectly-that is what each of us is here for. - Oscar Wilde
Principles. You can never be overdressed or overeducated. - Oscar Wilde
Problems. “I asked the question for the best reason possible, for the only reason, indeed, that excuses anyone for asking any question - simple curiosity. - Oscar Wilde
Perspicacity. The one duty we owe to history is to rewrite it. - Oscar Wilde

Apart from our love of words, we really love helping people, so we hope this podcast will become a trusted companion for you on your journey in business.

We welcome your comments and feedback via podcast@talkedaboutmarketing.com

The only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about...

Talking About Marketing

Talking About Marketing is a podcast for you to help you thrive in your role as a business owner and/or leader. It's produced by the Talked About Marketing team of Steve Davis and David Olney, with editing by Tim Whiffen. Artwork by Casey Cumming.

Each marketing podcast episode tips its hat to Philip Kotler's famous "4 Ps of Marketing" (Product, Price, Place, Promotion), by honouring our own 4 Ps of Podcasting; Person, Principles, Problems, and Perspicacity.
Person. The aim of life is self-development. To realise one's nature perfectly-that is what each of us is here for. - Oscar Wilde
Principles. You can never be overdressed or overeducated. - Oscar Wilde
Problems. “I asked the question for the best reason possible, for the only reason, indeed, that excuses anyone for asking any question - simple curiosity. - Oscar Wilde
Perspicacity. The one duty we owe to history is to rewrite it. - Oscar Wilde

Apart from our love of words, we really love helping people, so we hope this podcast will become a trusted companion for you on your journey in business.

We welcome your comments and feedback via podcast@talkedaboutmarketing.com

<a href="https://talkedaboutmarketing.com/podcast/">Talking About Marketing</a> is a podcast for you to help you thrive in your role as a business owner and/or leader. It's produced by the Talked About Marketing team of Steve Davis and David Olney, with editing by Tim Whiffen. Artwork by Casey Cumming.
Each marketing podcast episode tips its hat to Philip Kotler's famous "4 Ps of Marketing" (Product, Price, Place, Promotion), by honouring our own 4 Ps of Podcasting; Person, Principles, Problems, and Perspicacity.
<ol>
<li>Person. The aim of life is self-development. To realise one's nature perfectly-that is what each of us is here for. - Oscar Wilde</li>
<li>Principles. You can never be overdressed or overeducated. - Oscar Wilde</li>
<li>Problems. “I asked the question for the best reason possible, for the only reason, indeed, that excuses anyone for asking any question - simple curiosity. - Oscar Wilde</li>
<li>Perspicacity. The one duty we owe to history is to rewrite it. - Oscar Wilde</li>
</ol>
Apart from our love of words, we really love helping people, so we hope this podcast will become a trusted companion for you on your journey in business.
We welcome your comments and feedback via <a href="mailto:podcast@talkedaboutmarketing.com">podcast@talkedaboutmarketing.com</a>

In this episode, we dive into AI communication, digital security, and matching conversational tones.

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